Did Jesus have a beginning? | Elder Randy Skeete
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
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Reconciling Jesus's birth and His divinity
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Amen Brother Skeete , Jesus Is God , thank you Denisha , God bless you abundantly in all things .!!!
Preach it Elder... Amen 🙏🏻
That’s it! Praise the Lord
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Jesus did have a beginning! He was begotten and came forth from the bosom of the father. God does not reveal what begotten is because, we would never understand. However, He did have a beginning long ago before anything was created Jesus was begotten. Amen.
You first need to understand the term begotten to understand that He was never created
How someone who created time can have beginning?
Nonsense.
It's not official and Godly to use abusive language to a sister, she'll understand by God's grace,be a Christian even in your comments please@milos
I don't want to be rude and certainly not abusive.
I just express with one word - "nonsense" - what I think is logical fallacy.
Maybe better word would be “absurd"?
May God bless everyone regardless of our opinion on this topic.
Yes! That's right. He wasn't created He was begotten. You could never understand what begotten means. He did have a beginning. When that was we will never know. Amen. @@dinkozdedabilo4351
I know one person who cause suffering, miserable life and death of all of us.
That person invented pride (because of his talents gifted by God) and stubbornness (didn't want to stop to covet Michael position), leading him to lie other angels that they don't need God's law because, he said, angels are good.
His obsession of Jesus position ultimate leading him to openly confrontation.
Once he acquired many angels on his side he demanded position of Jesus.
Next step you know. War in heaven.
After unsuccessful war in heaven, he had success with our parents...
And finally here we are, all human race trapped in his lies.
Why do you think you are not deceived?
Happy Sabbath x brought forth from the Father denotes a beginning for the only begotten Son of His Father our Heavenly Father Lord GOD, which does not take away His divinity and is evidenced when our Heavenly Father refers to Lord Jesus as His Son, as dear Ellen White said in her writings x of course it is the roman church who talk of the mystery of their trinity x much love and God Bless from the UK xx
May I ask you?
How someone who is Creator of universe (matter, space and time) can had beginning in time?
God bless
@@Milos-Stankovic with respect sir, because our good Lord GOD did/does all through His only begotten Son Lord Jesus who sits at His right hand side x very much love from the UK xx
Dear sister,
You and I both agree that Jesus created all universe, visible and unvisible.
But we don't agree on beginning of matter, space and time.
These 3 categories had theirs beginning simultaneously at creation:
"In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth."
Do we agree that these 3 categories had theirs beginning at creation? Just as it written in the very first verse of the Holy Bible?
We, created being, cannot imagine life without matter, space and time. But these created categories had their beginning.
Do you understand that these are created categories?
God bless
What would be sin if we worship God on Sabbath instead of Sunday? No sin from the perspective of Sunday worshipers.
And what would be sin if we believe Jesus is Creator of matter, space and time? Time had beginning too! There is no sin in believing this truth.
But if you choose otherwise you sin.
If you choose to degrade Jesus and plan of salvation you are certainly sin against God.
Ps Skeets wants to get hold of Ellen White writings and she what she says about Proverbs chapter 8. She said that Proverbs 8 was inspired by Christ Himself through Solomon to write about Him. Christ was brought forth in the Days of Eternity Micah 5:2 margin. she also says that He was God in Infinity but not in Personality. His personality had a beginning. Christ is the Father, Begotten or Manifested. Amen
No.
Creator created matter, space and time.
All 3 categories had theirs beginning simultaneously.
You had beginning of matter as created category in time and space. But Creator existed outside created categories.
Do you understand?
Jesus is CREATOR of matter, space and time.
In NT book "Epistle to the Hebrews" clearly stated that Son created worlds (verse 2):
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Heb 1:1 God, who at many times and in many ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, *by whom also He made the worlds,*
Heb 1:3 who being the shining splendor of His glory, and the express image of His essence, and upholding all things by the word of His power, through Himself cleansing of our sins, He sat down on the right of the Majesty on high,
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Jesus is definitely God, He is the Creator of all things. His is God begotten or Manifested. He was brought forth in the Days of Eternity, it was so long ago you can say, it is like He is eternal. But His Personality had a beginning. Just think, if He was just like the Father, then He couldn't die, the Father could Never have laid down His Life, for everything would cease to exist. But the Son who was in the Form of God, could empty Himself, laid down His Glory Philippians 2:6-8. Mrs White says, that He was God in Infinity but not in Personality.
Christ was born of the same substance of His Father because He is God Begotten. He was God from God, He inherited all the attributes of the Father that's why He is God, but He is Not the Father, He is the Son. I will have to share some of what Mrs White said with you sometime.
Elder Skeete didn't address the text (Proverbs 8:22) pointed out by sister Denisha. I would like to listen his interpretation.
The Father has no beginning.
His only begotten Son has a beginning, because he was born, came forth from the Father. Thats why he is called - the Son of the living God.
The Eternal Father, the unchangeable one, gave his only begotten Son, tore from his bosom Him who was made in the express image of his person, and sent him down to earth to reveal how greatly he loved mankind. (Ellen White, RH July 9, 1895, par. 13)
A complete offering has been made; for "God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son,"-not a son by creation, as were the angels, nor a son by adoption, as is the forgiven sinner, but a Son begotten in the express image of the Father's person, and in all the brightness of his majesty and glory, one equal with God in authority, dignity, and divine perfection. In him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. (Ellen White, ST May 30, 1895, par. 3)
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