Gigaparts 24Ah LiFePO4 PO4power Battery Pack Tested
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024
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I bought 3 of the 12ah models at Dayton/Xenia this year. Ran my field day station at 40w the entire operational period without recharging.
Jason, I've used that Mountain Radio device at work and find it's more useful to use the software to test a real life situation. If you got the Pro version, you should be able to program it to alternate between two current levels, much like you would be doing when activating and alternating between TX and RX. The test you are running is just testing at 1A continuously. Find out what your typical current consumption is on your rig for both TX and RX, then estimate the percentage of time you are in RX mode vs. TX mode. Program the unit accordingly, alternating between the two with timing similar to what you experience during an activation. Batteries have a different discharge curve depending on how much current you are drawing and what the ambient temperature is. Running at 1A continuous is good if you want to see how true to spec the battery is, but it's even more interesting to see how the battery would perform if you are operating your rig with it all day/night, or just how many typical activations you could get out of it. When the voltage dips below the lowest operating voltage of the radio, that marks the end of the battery life.
The purpose of this test is to test efficiency - if a 24ah battery only lasts 17 hours, then you know the battery is bad or is improperly rated. This isn't meant to be a real-world test for using a radio.
Looks like a good price on these. I bought some cheap 10 ah lifepo4 batteries for North Carolina. I should shoot a video on those. They did good the one time I’ve had them out.
Hey Jason. Thanks for the review. Always on the lookout for some portable power when playing radio in the mountains. Been looking at a new battery for the camper that would cover Field Day and other camper/radio adventures. Maybe you can swing by Sulphur Springs and see if Signature Solar will let you test out their 12V 400AH LIPO4. Supposed to be well built and deliver 400AH but we need some testing. :). Take care. 73
I emailed those guys a while back, but no reply. I should probably drive out there and talk to them
Hi Jason, thanks for the video, I was not aware that this sort of tester was even available! According to my reading of the West Mountain website, the amplifier setting is for when their amplifier "box" is in circuit. I think that it is really an extra load to enable faster testing, or to be able to test high capacity batteries before you retire!! 73 Jim M7BXT
Keep these coming! Have you noticed any RF noise from it? I'd love to see a noise comparison among the different batteries. I use Bioenno exclusively, but I wouldn't mind saving a few bucks for similar quality.
No RFI from mine. You usually get that from a solar charger.
Sometimes I am suspect of batteries with meters built in
No RFI from this one - I have used this with POTA a few times
Jason, I have two of the PO4Power batteries from GigaParts. One is 24Ah and the other is 50Ah. I have used them for months and found a very annoying hum on my signal using them to power my FTM 300 VHF/UHF radio. When I unplug the PO4Power battery and plug up my Astron switching PS there is no hum. Obviously, this is not a lab certified test, however it is telling. I have installed Palomar Engineers Ferrite Mix 75 clip on cores on the mic cable, coax cable, and detachable head cable eliminating them as source of the hum. I will be taking the batteries over to the stations of other hams to duplicate the test and see if the batteries produce hum with their radios.
Preliminarily, I think the battery BMS is the source of the hum. I have ordered two Mix 75 2" toroids to make a common mode choke with the power cable. The toroids will be delivered next week.
Have you or your followers ever experienced this issue? Thanks, Rick KB3NG
Have you reported these findings to Gigaparts? I've only used my batteries for HF but haven't noticed any hum
@@HamRadio2 Yes, and not heard anything back yet.
Hey Rick, what charger do you use with the 24Ah battery? Thx, Shawn-KC3EJC
@@shawnmcnelis370 LifePO4 Model ZP4-12V6A charger from GigaParts. Works fine for my 24 Ah, 50 Ah, and 100 Ah batteries.
@@HamRadio2 I finally tracked down the actual problem and it was a surprise. The hot water heater timer in the garage (my radio room shares a common wall with the garage and the timer is mounted on that wall) emitted a very strong noise signal and that was the cause of the hum. The noise signal was picked up by the + and - dc leads from the battery to the radio. I used a 2" ferrite toroid Mix 75 from Palomar Engineers wound with 6 turns of 12 AWG wire to cancel the low frequency noise signal. Everything is quite now.
Miady has a 20ah battery that's about the same frame size as this battery. I wonder how it stacks up. I have the 20ah battery in my radio battery box. I've had good use of it but I wonder if It would be worth the difference in price to go with one of those when I replace it.
I've had good results with my Miady 6AH so I imagine that 20AH would be fine
My understanding of electrical theory is pretty bad. How long could this battery power up a 25W or 50W mobile radio (mostly just listening with a few short transmissions during the course of a day)? How about the 12Ah one?
what radio are you using to get all day use?
about how much time would a radio similar to an IC7300 get?
I have a similar battery (different brand from Amazon) and use with IC-7300. The 7300 uses about 1.5 Amps max for receive and about 22 Amps on transmit. So to figure out duration you need to calculate an average use depending on you duty cycle (transmit/receive ratio). It will last nearly all day if not using it in a competition. I also have a Genasun charge controller and a 140W solar panel - then you can run all day and all night. 😂
@@stewartrv I have the IC-7100, it does about the same amp draw in transmit
It would be 4 cells... but not really sure how their software takes that into account anyway. LiFePO4's seems to hold up really well. Good stuff.
Thanks
Please give us a real world test on how this battery performs. By real world, I mean a typical POTA activation with a 100 watt rig that you normally use, running SSB until the battery runs down to the minimum voltage spec of the rig. I realize you may need to do some homework here to calculate the average current draw per hour, but I think your viewers would appreciate the results you see from such a test, and then you you could use it as a benchmark for testing similar batteries from other manufacturers such as Bioenno, Dakota or Battleborn. Do you have a West Mountain Radio PWRcheck? Or similar device to see ah usage in real time. That would be a good way of determining current used in an hour. I would love to see your results.
Good video, I have been looking at batteries recently for a group I work with. And the money will be coming out of my pocket, so any discount is appreciated. Also, identifying an affordable battery is appreciated. I tried the link, and it does go to their battery page, or show the discount. Thx.
Have you used Dakota Lithium batteries ?
Yep, already reviewed one - ruclips.net/video/Ccm55Tin8cs/видео.html
Nice test.
As someone looking at the idea of a completely off grid solution for keeping a few things powered? Thank you.
Yes. They have a 100ah and 200ah version coming
@@HamRadio2 Duuuuuuuude.
That's gonna be super nice to have as a 'just in case' option.
Though I am wondering at the practicality of having one in a vehicle slow charging that can be popped out at need, or if it should just be solar charged with an option to plug into a wall outlet for when mains are avalible.
@@HamRadio2 I’m thinking a lot of folks in TX could have used a 100/200 ah battery year a go February when we had Arctic Freeze over Tx for the week.
I was very lucky to have had all utilities and cable/internet. I’m less than 1/4 mi yo the main Fire station in Frisco. I’m guessing the same power grid.
Funny note Walmart is between us. They had full utilities as well but some people couldn’t get out or had a hard time getting home.
@@singletona082 not sure but could you use a “Pure Sine Wave Inverter” to recharge the battery?
I know b/c I have one to recharge my LiPo drone batteries. 🤷🏼♂️
@HamRadio2.0 🤷🏼♂️
Please test a Dakota Lithium battery!
Already did - ruclips.net/video/Ccm55Tin8cs/видео.html
Those batteries never stay in stock for long.
True
Jason you might want to check the Gigaparts link. It is not to the battery.
It's a full page of stuff that includes the battery. You can use my coupon on anything on that page
@@HamRadio2 Just the 12ah is listed. the 24ah was out of stock and that may take it off the page. I just checked again.
@@W4TRI_Ronny that is because the 24 and 50 are out of stock. Bad timing on my part, however, my test stands and they will have more of different sizes in stock by October
@@HamRadio2 (Picture of Eric Cartman) "That's what I said!" :) I do need to get a tester like that sometime.
@@HamRadio2 saves me from going to look. Thank you for the great video Jason. Im learning a lot from you.
gig says out of stock
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Yes they are. Bad timing on my part. BUT ..the quality test is what I was after
and of course its sold out on gigparts