Why Prismatic Is The Best Subclass in Destiny 2 (By Far)
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
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Couldn't help but notice the lack of an in depth praise for the titan synergies 💀
Hopefully titans get some sort of synergy love in the future. You're spot on about how good hunter and warlock feel though, especially with the class items. I've had more fun buildcrafting on hunter and warlock these past few weeks than I've had in years
What’s kinda funny about titan is the exotic everyone loves rn hazardous propulsion is actually outclassed by second chance bc if you have the facet that makes you radiant on melee hit you get 25% dmg then a 15% weaken for all your weapons and HP is only a 35% to rockets 💀
@@ThebmanbossIf only second chance was one of our a class item works
Iv been a second chance lover since it dropped! Was one of the first prismatic subclass builds I made. But man controlled demolition would be nuts on prismatic @Thebmanboss
I've been wanting to go through the campaign and mess with Hunter's Prismatic but I haven't been able to stop playing Warlock..
That's because titan barely has anything right now. All we have is melee builds that are worse than combination blow hunter. Titan needs a rework, but I don't think we'll ever get it as titans are only like 15% of the player base.
Solar warlock is still stronger in end-game team based content in my opinion. Song of flame, hellion, and speaker sights are significant tools added to the kit. Ember of Benevolent, Ember of Empyrean, and Ember of Ashes, together with Touch of Flame aspect (all solar exclusive), create a perpetual loop of sustain, survivability and damage (via more frequent ignitions).
Prismatic is busted you really don’t need all that extra healing in 99% of situations
Prismatic has that but I get what u mean the fragments
@@36090pburke Speaker's sight without touch of flame is a**
@@benoitgarin6477yep
I think that it is dependent on what activity you are playing, but I still prefer Solar over prismatic. Both are great
Honestly I hope there's still a legitimate reason to run the other subclasses that aren't Prismatic other than "for fun"'s sake. I love my Broodweaver Warlock and it finally got that weavewalk buff that most people wanted on the aspect. I love Prismatic Warlock a lot, it is extremely fun but it wouldn't feel right for one subclass to complete overshadow the rest.
Prismatic is really nice, it's like a Swiss army knife that I can bring anywhere anytime. But I still find myself going back to normal subclasses for my builds since they'll be a lot more potent in those set ups.
One of these builds is the Mataiodoxia strand suspend build, it's so much more effective with mindspun and wanderer aspects. Another is Speaker's Helm with touch of flame and benevolence.
Yeah same, Prismatic was fun but I'm already bored, I enjoy my builds on normal subclasses a bit more, I would have preferred a 3rd darkness subclass
I've been using Prismatic since launch, and it's ROUGH for me to go back to other subclasses as a Warlock. I always wanted to feel like a spell casting wizard and Prismatic is the first time I've ever felt that fantasy in this game. Sunbracers are cool but it feels limited by needing a ceiling to deal a lot of damage where as with Prismatic, I feel like it's a lot more convenient to play with. It's even harder for me to go back to Stasis Warlock (my previous main) after the stasis changes that ruined shards for me.
Couldn't agree more! Exactly my opinion. Restoration but just times 1 and no solace and empyrean is just mediocre, osmios with coldsnap but no iceflair same deal etc. Prismatic is nice but that pertains mostly to builds that stack a lot of stuff to make it good, but not so much synergy wise
@@benoitgarin6477ya I woulda wanted a new subclass for darkness as well.
I like how Prismatic makes gives old things a chance to shine, rather than taking the existing good stuff and elevating it. For example something like Devour + Lightning Surge on Warlock. On arc Lightning Surge is presently deeply mediocre compared to the other two arc aspects.
Arc has some of the DR (at least this season), but none of the healing necessary to survive in close. Tack on a full heal on every kill, an exotic like Crown of Tempests or a class item that has HoIL + Synthos, *3* Lightning Surge attacks courtesy of arcane needle....and all of a sudden Lightning Surge is looking amazing.
Similarly the slowing and decoy dodges on hunter, which normally are hugely overshadowed in pve by the other hunter Strand and Stasis aspects find new life paired with Combination Blow.
Prismatic is a place where aspects that didn't quite land, or don't quite mesh with the existing parts of the subclass kit, but still fit the class and elemental fantasies, can get a second chance to find a build; and that's something I find exciting.
I've been running the Getaway artist+bleak watcher build (same as every warlock lol) but I've been running Bastion as my Kinetic with Perfect pitch as my primary. Dude it feels insanely good.
For 8 seconds after you melee (powered or not) bastion deals an increased 45% damage per pellet, which is already wild, as well as reducing charge time and increasing reload speed, further increasing overall DPS, and the damage boost doesn't even end there.
Arcane needle unravels targets and makes them take more damage. Plus giving you 3 ranged procs for bastion respectively. Throw on Facet of dawn to become radiant on powered melee hits, you are SHREDDING. Whilst transcendent you do more damage AGAIN whilst refreshing arcane needle charges rapidly, play it right you can buff a full set of ammo and absolutely destroy pretty much anything if you can sit in the right range. Can also run kinetic surge for even more damage. It's strong enough to let me use eager edge as my heavy in any content that isn't GM since mobility is important to me, and not having icarus dash hurts my soul.
Warlock has never felt this good.
We aren't power creeping anymore we are power sprinting with prismatic
in my in game saved loadouts.. when the final shape came out i cleared everything to start new builds and had only 4 prismatic builds.. BUT slowly but surely more of my slots now have prismatic builds in them..yes i ❤ some of my OG builds but ive been going though each of my builds and seeing if pris could make them better 🤔 not all of them but most of them yup..i really had to retrain my brain on how to make some new builds with all the mix & match stuff 👍
Prismatic Hunter is what I dreamed hunter to be, it's all the best things in one and so many exotics can be used with it. It's absolutely awesome, having stylish executioner for our survivability is so Damn good. Having things like voltshot, incandescent, and volatile just make us invis has done wonders.
Agreed, very flexible subclass. Allows a lot of flexibility with what exotics or game styles you prefer. Seen a clip of a solo player running vorpal + lucky pants and absolutely shredding through champs as he didn’t need to mould his weapons to deal with stunning them. Made it look easy!
I can only speak for myself but I'd love to see some pvp stuff. I'm not the best player but would like to dip my start dipping my toes in. However most pvp players are pretty cracked and I can't even begin to follow what they're saying, but you explain things so well to the point I went from never doing a GM ever to now soloing them with a decent success rate.
@@UndeadCheetah glad my content has helped you! Maybe I’ll do some PVP stuff in the future
congrats!
I wish there was a transcendence type ability for every class even if just really basic like for example if you are running strand you have to deal strand dmg to fill the whole bar and then you get improved ability regen when you activate it and same for all the other classes and dmg types bc when I swap off prismatic now something just feels missing
It does feel bad not having a Transcendence mechanic on other subclasses.
Maybe dark classes can share a unique melee ability with increased melee regen and light classes can share a unique grenade with increased grenade regen? Something like Veil powers for the Dark and Traveler powers for the light.
@@thatonepenguinperson618 that would be pretty cool but yeah if you don’t play prismatic you just lose an insane amount of ability up time they definitely should keep the exotic class items to prismatic but keeping transcendence exclusive to prismatic is gonna feel pretty bad as time goes on I think
@Thebmanboss It's ITS thing. Wouldn't make sense splashing it on other subclasses, it'd defeat the purpose
@@StonedTonberry tbf fragments and aspects were stasis’s “thing” and they put it on other sub classes for balance and imo the class items are prismatics thing more than transcendence
As a Warlock main I would say that Prismatic nailed it's place in my loadout list. It cannot replace my favorite and most powerful builds on each of the classes I have (apart from maybe stasis turret build). It nicely takesnot op aspects and exotic perks from other elements and allows to mix some previously lackluster abilities like lightning surge into something truly potent.
However, when it comes to hunter, I think there is a very big issue. And that is the fact that strongest hunter builds (apart from only suspend oriented build) can literally be combined into 1 (combination blow, golden gun, Volatile, even insane dmg resist build). Like when I look at Hunter, I see absolutely no reason to come back to any of the strongest builds on individual subclasses because I get the full gameplay loop on Prismatic without missing out on anything which can't be said about Warlock which came out potent, but other subclasses still have some room to compete.
Disclaimer…. Except for Titan.
Ikr
I think prismatic aspects should be like the exotic class items, have access to all aspects but only in spirit like banner of war will just regen your health and nothing relates with melee or sword and for those with 1 effect should be buffed on the original subclass by enhancing the effects or by adding a new feature.
I still personally run Arcstrider for low-High end content for multiple reasons. VERY high survivability(if you know how to use it) with good general damage output, and having access to one of the best supers in the game(Gathering Storm).
"Lethal Current", specifically, is the deciding factor imo. It's very hard to beat and Prismatic doesn't offer me an Aspect that competes tbh. Executioner is great, but the add clear potential is limited(even with Spirit of Caliban).
Lethal Current Jolts targets on melee-hit, with a damaging aftershock that triggers the chain-lightning. Meleeing that same target, or any Jolted target also Blinds them, which mean that any non-boss level target cannot fight back. Combine this with Liar's Handshake and you get health for every Cross-Counter you land.
I haven't even talked about Flow State or any of the Fragments, such as Beacons, Instinct, Feedback, and Frequency.
Prismatic Hunter may or may not outperfom in total damage(haven't tested), but Arcstrider's survivability + add clear is unmatched in the long run imo.
Or who knows, maybe I'm just biased lol. Been an Arc Hunter main for the last 10 years.
to be honest for a long time even before tfs i knew for truly end game content, i would always play into one specific niche e.g. one subclass with one exotic
however hunter has really pleased me with the kit and potential
What do you mean by true endgame because I still find normal subclasses better for speedruns and lowmans?
I really miss arc fragments for blinding from arc special/heavy kills or rapid orb generation. it would be OP if we had that on prismatic but that alone often makes me switch to arc when surges match.
I'd love to see the PvP Warlock build
For trials this episode I've been using Astrocyte Verse w blink to get to power positions on maps quicker than the enemies. Very effective. Also a superior way to dodgr shotgun rushers, grapple hunters, even the new arc hunter super
Your so underrated!
eh I'd exclude titan, I don't even know what I'd use to solo dungeons on prismatic titan...I don't run GMs so I barely deal with champs
yep especially when it comes to the exotic class items. aside from synth & HOIL etc everything else they added was TRASH.
why didn't they give us more exciting exotics to work with for the titan class item ??
if consecration is basically the entire titan kit, why didn't they add pyrogales to the class item? if we're using diamond lances, why didn't they add the one diamond lance exotic with cadmus ridge cap?
why did they give us thermite grenades when we have an exotic that literally only works with fusion grenades with ashen wake??
bungie did not give any fucks with titan smh
I kinda hate the Transcend hunter nade. Is it better to stick things directly, or try to get it under the enemies for the aoe?
Stick problem targets with it. Hunter transcendence is better for bursting down a boss than adclear
def the direct stick IMO; if you can't do that, try to hit it on a nearby wall like you would a tripmine. sometimes the geometry kinda sucks for that, though, ofc.
Except for titans
Titans
Brothers
We were done dirty
Y’all need another Survivability aspect… sol invictus.. bastion… anything!
@@cobefriend7797 the new shield is funny but like, offensive bulwark maybe? Controleld demolition is too much but i feel the OB is the right amount of titan falvour, and ties into void titan speciality - overshields.
any1 know how i can find builds specifically by exotic class item rolls? For example I got Star eater + Renewal grasps
I kinda hate to say "think for yourself" because if everyone had an encyclopedic knowledge of the whole game this would be a very different community, but you're gonna have to improvise. At 64 combinations per class, with some synergizing and others not so much, setting up 192 builds would just be way too much.
My advice on that specific roll is that I'm not a big fan of Spirit of Renewal. Usually the way I use Duskfield is that I chuck it into a pack of enemies I don't want to deal with (maybe a Barrier Servitor is there or something) and then get to cover until they freeze. So I wouldn't really be benefiting from either of the defensive benefits it provides. If I throw it at my own feet, I'm either trading my grenade cooldown for a few seconds of some DR (which doesn't feel great), or there are enemies on top of me and I'm using it as a panic button--in which case it's a pretty good panic button, but why did I put myself in a situation to need it in the first place? You'd sort of need a build for Hunter that justifies diving into close range with a pack of dangerous enemies, and the best way to accomplish that is Grapple, which is mutually exclusive with Duskfield.
On the other hand, Star-Eater is just sort of generically good. More super damage is always welcome. The problem with that is, unless you have a really good other column to justify having it (maybe Assassin or Galanor), Celestial Nighthawk exists. Neutral-game exotics like Assassin's Cowl exist. Lucky Pants exists. You could use Orpheus Rig to get your tether back (since you don't have Spirit of Galanor to do that).
So basically: farm a few more cloaks and let your imagination run wild.
Is It Just More Or Do Y’all Not Like The Transcendence Grenade On Prismatic Hunter, I Just Feel Like They Could Of Or Could Add A New One That’s A lot Better Because I Look At The Titan One & The Warlock One And They Instantly Are Just Better… The Hunter Transcendence grenade Just Doesn’t Feel Like It’s That Good Because They had To Make It A Tripmine grenade & attaching it to the ground for adds, it just doesn’t seem like it hardly does anything, now i mean in the glassway strike the portals in the boss room the vex come out of it’s really good the throw it in front of the portal so it’ll instantly stun the overload but in things like locking down adds or just clearing adds it doesn’t work like it does with the warlock & titan transcendence grenade
i cannot afford the final shape currently so ive been avoiding the hell out of pvp
As far as hunter prismatic goes, ascension needs to work in some way with winters shroud or threaded specter, it feels horrible having to forgo two out of the remaining four aspects just to use ascension. It also needs to work with reaper and powerful attraction at a minimum, but hopefully in the future it works with all class ability mods just like ensnaring slam works
@@nathanflinchum1153 100% agree. Big oversight on Bungie’s part
@@itztizzle yeah, I don’t wanna be the guy to say they don’t play test but I don’t see how they would miss an issue that big, I mean the whole thing with the aspects they chose was that they’re supposed to be able to synergize really well, so having two that literally don’t work at all with another seems very out of place
it always sucks when you use a class ability or other and it doesnt count for mods and aspects, i really hope at least we have ascension work with reaper and powerful attraction as you said because it would really make some of the hunter builds I have pop off even harder
I have said it for years and now might actually be a good time to do it so regular subclasses dont get power crept out. On single element subclasses you chould be able to use two different supers at any given time. There is no reason i shouldnt be able to switch on the fly as a master of any given element. Sentinal titan used to be able to do this many years ago.
Yes!!! Would love to see some pvp builds. I really like how they've done pvp in this game. At moment im just experimenting with the different aspects etc, trying to find a good balance. I must admit im always using liers handshake on my hunter, i really should start exploring using others, i know for hunter graviton forfeit is great for invisibility and while invisible gets your melee back faster, reloads weapons faster etc. So if anything thats my downfall on builds is just being comfortable with one and just sticking with it. I think from now on im going to use and experiment with different exotics for hunter. I know it bad not utilising the exotics, and in pvp graviton forfeit is meant to be really good. Shame on me lol 🤦♂️
Please share your pvp build.
Show us that pvp build dawg
I honestly dont think power deltas scale the same in all comtent.
I don't know. Not having a proper identity is a downside to me. Prismatic offers a few good synergies, but the rest feels random. Quite a few of the most fun exotics don't work with prismatic, because the respective ability isn't featured. It is literally the jack of all trades, master of some? So it can either feel diluted or broken. Like an overly complex gimmick that ruins the balance of the game. They've already taken away quite a bit of class identity before, now subclass identity is blurred, too. (And don't get me started on that stupid mini-raid exotic mission, that prevents me from even unlocking the class items, because Bungie playtesters clearly all sit in the same room where they can leisurely talk to each other. Why would they see a problem with that mission?)
wtf is that sniper at 1:40 💀 that’s the best scope I’ve ever seen in this game
I’m fairly sure it’s the new one from the raid
The one from the raid, and it's pretty good for pvp too.
I honestly felt prismatic was really balanced when it first came out, until the exotic class items dropped that is, exotic class items not being usable on other subclasses kinda kills all other subclasses, it’s so weird that you can only us them on prismatic to me because even if you could prismatic would still be the strongest option, the common argument I hear people say is if the class items where usable on all classes there would be no reason to run regular exotic but that argument makes no sense to me because now there is no reason to run another class
so true, now with prism titan, my consecration can stun both overload and unstop, and radiant can stun barrier
If you get spirit of contact it stuns all 3 champs
Id say hunters have a very over tumed build rn with a spesric build.
But otherall id say rhe strongest subclasses are still.
Solar warlock
Strand and solar titan
Prismatic and solar hutner
Titans aren't relevant as it stands. Not to be confused with useless, but there's nothing a Titan can do CURRENTLY that Warlocks/Hunters can't do similarly or better. I adore Titans, but they don't have a place in the current sandbox. Hell, Bungie themselves are talking internally about them. They're well aware of their identity crisis. Whether they 'fix' them or not remains to be seen..
@@StonedTonberrythey'll buff juggernaut to make it slightly less useless and call it a day, until they drop a new exotic behind a pay wall that completely breaks the class causing it to be nerfed (the cycle continues)
Solar titan and strand titan were nerft big time so nah even those arnt good anymore. Strand is the best subclass of the options a titan has. And even prismatic hunter surpassed pre nerf strand titan by miles. Smh. Titans are absolete for a few years now. And now prismatic hunter and warlock exists titan basicly is a dead class.
I just solo’d ghosts of the deep and would not have done it without prismatic.
Saved the game for me. Don't think I'd have gone in so heavy on the DLC if it wasn't for Prismatic. Same old same old kind of thing but Prismatic is fascinating.
Powercreepatic ❤
Let's be honest though, every new subclass has been powercreep when it released xD
I'm fully expecting them to nerf prismatic into the ground sometime during or after Episode 1 just like they did with Stasis and Strand x.x
@@thatonepenguinperson618
I highly doubt it, with the talk about them looking into Titans being buffed and how Prismatic doesn't have access to certain potencies like straight solar subclasses do, I do not think it's going to get nerfed at all
@@ThePackman627 they'll buff titans, but i don't see them keeping Celestial Hunter or Warlock the way they currently are. It's like how they said they wouldn't nerf Banner of War or Woven Mail and then eventually nerfing them. We'll have to see though, because every time they buff Titan, they eventually get nerfed into the ground.
Maybe warlock. How about Titan?
Huzzah!
We want the crucible build!
@@brizzzyplays924 it’s on my channel 😊
jesus fuck, idk what is worse, if he didnt mention titans at all or just saying some shit about consecration after all the thing he said about hunters
One main thing i love about prismatic hunter is with one or two shuriken throws i have all champs covered...slow and freeze..i can essentially bring any weapon i want
10 sub 20 GM rans with strand titan. try prismatic titan because i'm feeling cocky. wipe twice. back to strand titan
Ya I only have one prismatic loadout saved and it’s hazardous bc it’s new and different. But all my gm runs are strand, or void.
Tbf Prismatic Titan rly needs a lot of help lol
Does anybody wanna teach me how to set up the best build possible I have every subclass but I don’t really understand what I’m doing. Lol yes I’m a noob but I’m looking to improve 😂 btw I play mainly pve and im using warlock
"I don't mean to flex but, I'm gonna, because I solo everything"
Yeah... well... I die a lot on standard strikes, story missions, and have never been in a raid... so I guess you could say it's getting pretty serious.
Dying on standard strikes is a skill issue. It’s not flexing to talk about your achievements
I think solar warlock with speakers helmet is arguably the best. I do love running the triple turrets build, but the solar warlock is just so powerful and utilitarian now and the hellion when on solar is a murder machine!
I refuse to drop prismatic hunter, the mobility in pvp is stupid, and honestly the only thing I miss is the weighted knife, and in pve, well gyrfalcon's was my favorite pve build, and now I can just use that but with threaded spike and a grenade to stun overload and unstoppables, so it's just better.
Prismatic Titan sucks imo but that’s cause there aren’t any builds that don’t involve melees
Yes please, warlock pvp
Eh, I get it for warlock I guess but unless you like melee hunter, I don't see the appeal compared to straight solar or void and pris titan is very meh
If I could make a suggestion to Bungie in regards to a potential Destiny 3:
_In the future, change Prismatic to be a part of each individual Light and Dark subclass, so that we can have Transcendence on ALL Builds. This way, we can make build crafting more in depth, by allowing us the toys of the other elements while at the same time allowing us to specialize in any single element._
So a Prismatic Gunslinger would have the full suite of Hunter Solar and Prismatic options, but then a Prismatic Nightstalker would have the full suite of _Void_ and Prismatic options, and so on and so forth…
Also, word is that Bungie IS going to be making a third proper Darkness subclass (mostly because the lack of symmetry between the 3 light and 2 Dark subclasses is annoying them), and that it’s either going to be Red (related to Nezarac’s Nightmares) or Yellow (where we’d tap into the golden Resonance The Witness and it’s personal forces have been using since Witch Queen).
Correction: why warlock/hunter prismatic is the best subclass in the game*.
There i fix it for yah. As prismatic titan is by far the worst subclass in the game.
Worst subclass in the game is a fucking wild statement
The thing is bungie confirmed in the last twab that they’re going to be adding more to prismatic and updating the subclass in the future it might get even crazier.
Bro went 7 minutes in a 9 minute video about how broken Prismatic is before even using the word Titan… and then only briefly mentioned the single thing EVERYONE else talks about (consecration spam during transcendance)… and then promptly doesn’t mention titans again in the video.
Not his fault though… doubt he ever plays Titan.
The reason why is because the LACK of potential, not excluding them just cause. Titans are currently drowning since FS launch. You can attribute this to Bungie fucking up somewhere. Again. They're well aware of the state of Titans, whether they do anything to right that wrong remains to be seen
@@InsightfulAU my channel since final shape has 3 titan builds, one warlock build and one hunter build. But yeah, I never play titan
@@itztizzle I apologize for that ranty dig at the end. I’ve watched them.
Collective Obligation is doing ALL the work in the Void builds… there is nothing “Titan” about it that can’t be done on any other class (Holy smokes, Gyrfalcons Hunter?!)… and you even mention that they have drawbacks (how is shield throw still this bad after two years?!)…
the standard Consecration “spam” build… I swear the devs at Bungie ONLY had this combo in mind when they made Prismatic Titan. And the Hunter melee build is objectively better.
I’ve don’t a couple of point contact builds and God forbid you miss a kill ( the jolts don’t count) because you are waiting awhile before you can try to combo again. Why are the melee cooldowns on the “melee” class so long?
My poorly made point is that in a video of the “brokenness” of Prismatic, you mentioned the Titan class by name exactly once after 80% of the runtime of the video, brought up the one build that people use and didn’t mention them again.
It’s like in the vidoc when Bungie themselves were talking about Prismatic and didn’t even know the name of the Titan abilities they were describing.
Just sucks man. There’s no variety, synergy is so lacking comparatively to Warlocks and Hunter, the ability loops are clunky. The just isn’t a space in the game where a Titan brings anything to the table that a warlock and hunter can’t do better.
@@InsightfulAUAbout the ViDoc thing… it should be abundantly obvious that the people who are the forward facing in stuff like that either don’t play the game at all… or basically don’t play the game.
Everything about the ViDocs and such is pretty insufferable listening to them talk in some kind of female (even the males) teenage angst vocabulary and tone.
For speeds normal subclasses are still better. Same goes for a lot of lowmans
Honestly, I have to agree.... I was a solar titan main until The Final Shape. Once I switched to Prismatic titan, it has been very hard to switch back to my solar subclass.
Primismatic is a wonderful buffet of power, and I haven't unlocked all the fragments yet. 🍻
I desperately wish Prismatic Titan had Sol Invictus. Without the sunspots, I can't use Loreley which means my fashion is in shambles.
@@thatonepenguinperson618 Loreley still works if you have a Solar super equipped. (No Sunspots on Thruster unfortunately, but the other functions are still there.)
If only it didn't cost $100 to buy the game so I could use prismatic
it doesn’t its $50. so half off 😊
@@CarlosSanchez-gj6ux really? Last time I got hit with a pay wall for final shape it was $100
@@tyleralvarez6771It’s $50 for just The Final Shape + Episode 1 (this is the version i bought)
It’s $100 for The Final Shape + All 3 Episodes + Dungeon Key(2 dungeons to come out way later)
sorry for responding like that, i thought you knew already.
Yeah, unfortunately Destiny 2 is pay to play tbh
Unrelated, but you know what I never got? Why people are so interested in tier lists. I don’t get it 😭
It's not the list itself, but the knowledge that's born from it. Knowing ahead of time the things worth investing your time goes a long way. Staying up to date on the ins and outs of the game isn't mandatory, but it IS recommended
1) feeling validated that something you think is strong is high tier (or something you use)
2) comfort in accepting someone elses opinion who may have more game knowledge then you and not having to deep dive the math of a build or deal with worrying about specifics
3) collectively agreeing and dunpstering on something low tier and bonding over the shared spite(a very human desire to bond over disliking stuff)
Just a few general things that add to people wanting to see tiers
Basically just to know what is strong and what is not and knowing why they are that way. Also, just curiosity, just to know what other people's opinion is. This way you get better at the game by just having the knowledge and effectively putting it in use depending on different factors.
They're good conversation starters. "Oh, why'd you put X thing over Y thing?"
@@life-destiny1196 Basically. Knowledge IS power, after all
Child of the Old Gods added to Prismatic please. Give me that and I'll be satisfied. Add Briarbinds' ability to pick up Void Souls to the right column of the class item and I'll never ever complain about anything in the game again
No. Several reasons why, but ultimately no. Warlocks are strong enough
@@StonedTonberry I think worrying about power levels has gone out the window with Prismatic given how much stronger it is compared to each individual other subclass- and I don't think COG is what'll be the one to really break the game. Bungie has talked about adding other aspects anyway
:3
For who?
For me
The focus on titans was laughable. 😮
Prismatic made every other subclass boring to me.
Prismatic is ok but the exotic class items are trash as of now I’d rather use night hawks full potential than use use a watered down star eaters scales
Nighthawks full potential is reached on Prismatic though, isn't it? I don't play Hunter much but that's what I usually hear from a friend that does play Hunter.
@@thatonepenguinperson618 Prismatic has a damage boosting fragment and still has access to Radiant, so yeah a Prismatic Celestial Golden Gun does more damage than a Solar one, and that's not seasonal-mod dependent so that'll likely remain the case.
As far as the class items, I don't think they're trash, there are just a *lot* of bad combinations. Calibans + Liars on Hunter, HoIL + Contact on Titan, Osmio + Verity on Warlock, there are some absurdly strong combos, it just might take farming 40, 60, or 100 of the dang things before you get the one you're after 😅
You'd def a casual
BoW Titan is better than anything prismatic does.
Running GMs this weekend with Prismatic I honestly think Titans and Warlocks are the best for endgame. Hunter has been alright. On people saying Prismatic Titans have been weak, I think most just got stuck in the initial pre-GM impressions of the Subclasses where Hunter and Warlock 'dominated' and Titan felt underwhelming, but the toolset of Titan I think are very impressive, while the overhyped Punchy Hunter has been a joke in glassway TBH - the amount of naive Hunters I encountered that I just kept reviving over and over were just everywhere in my rando LFGs (but that probably has more to do with people not being smart with the playstyle than the Subclass itself).
My biggest takeaway from seeing Prismatic in endgame - VERY flexible in utility, and far Superior selection of Supers (AKA Twilight Arsenal and Song of Flame) than their mono counterparts in Arc, Stasis and Strand. It makes Arc and Stasis feel outmoded by Prismatic.
Yeah, it depends a lot on context. Hunter can do silly amounts of boss damage with both the Still Hunt/Nighthawk setup and the Stylish/Tether/Grapple/12p setup, but I think people laser-focused on that due to the raid race results (where the design of the final encounter basically required stacking Still Hunt/Nighthawk to meet the DPS check). Combination Blow I think is kinda overhyped in group settings--unlike the Arcstrider version of the build, the AOE just isn't there on Prismatic. By the time you've dodged twice to get a shatter off, your teammates have blown the adds up, or the adds have blown you up! Makes more sense for solo content though, you have a lot more control over the situation.
Titan is still very very good at blowing up yellow bars, and Warlock has potent CC and support, and both of those things are very relevant in GMs.
You know how many times I see a prismatic titan try to consecration in glassway and die over and over?
Prismatic titan is weak and dogshit in GM's smh. Its fighting while you have a disability. Hunter prismatic is by far the stronger, better one on top of having ton of survivability and range attacks. Try concecrate adds and champs in a GM lol. Thats a deathsentence. Even bungie admits that prismatic titan is weak as F and that they gonna do something about it. If they already openly speak out about it than it should say more than ennough. Instead people like you who keep capping.
Ngl for most endgame (speeds and lowmans or optimal play) I still prefer normal subclasses because none of the really broken aspects are on prismatic
There is one reason that this is not a subclass
It has every subclass in one
Honestly wish they'd just bite the bullet and put the entirety of every subclass into prismatic. Titans need it that way bad
Titans just need their core subclasses buffed which in turn will help prismatic. The whole class needs help not just prismatic
That would be insanely broken
@@ozanpakel3223Exactly. I'd adore that, but balance. This. Isn't. Borderlands
If they went all in, you'd have no reason to use the other 5. This isn't Borderlands, we CAN'T have all the goodies lest you run the risk of breaking the game, something they actively try to avoid.
I agree with you all but I think the current reception and state of prismatic kind of proves how there is already little reason to return to other subclasses. Titans return to strand, void, and solar for the obvious benefits of the three that can't be found in their prismatic kit while, as detailed in the video, warlocks maybe return to solar for well and hunters already really have no advantage to looking back outside of highly niche encounters.
Besides, from Bungie's own standpoint, they now have to wrap any new subclass into prismatic to maintain the idea of it and can use "additions" to the prismatic kit from other kits whenever they need to increase the power fantasy without taking too many resources away from their usual road map.
All in all, I get that prismatic having access to everything is seen as op, but the longer this game continues, the more inevitable it becomes.
I myself think Prismatic is a mess its like too much of a good thing a mix mash of junk. We would have been better off with a Red subclass a complete new completely its own not borrowed mash of crap. What would Red be IDK how about radiation or laser beam anything would be better.
Sounds like it's less about prismatic being a "mash of junk" and more about you being salty we didn't get the red subclass from the random leak that was literally confirmed to be fake lol. Thankfully most ppl don't think like you or else Bungie wouldn't ever do something this cool again.