When Bill Gates visited Wired in 1996 the editors interviewed him. I don't think we ever did anything with the interview. I had completely forgotten I had video'ed it.
He knew where Microsoft would be all along regardless of the monetary projections, and he knew that Microsoft would be a tools and infrastructure provider instead of a content aggregator and provider. Maybe he thought about this interview long after it was done and reformulated Microsoft's strategy when Bing was created and even when launching Azure. He evolved while knowing about Microsoft's core strengths. All things considered I think it was a million times better to face Bill Gates and argue with him than talk with Steve Jobs even about the most trivial details. Jobs always looked like he thought he was above everybody else and was about to bite people's heads off.
This is the real bill. The one that led microsoft into a monopoly. Open minded and a good listener but also a gladiator when he knows his right about his point when answering and proving you wrong
This video is great. Bill Gates express a lot of interesting and forward looking concepts. However, it is clear that he is trying to evade and mislead the interviewers into thinking that he is not into internet advertising or that a tech company like Microsoft could not compete in this market. I think he knew (and planned) that Microsoft could be a dominant player at this market, but the US government put a stop to him so Microsoft wouldn't be a complete monopoly in all Tech areas.
Yeah anti competition suits were heating up all over the place, they didnt ask him in and he goes in to try and tell them to print a story that they micorsoft not interested in the internet, they didnt do anything with is, so he probably kept having poor people executed in drug fueled rages back at his home. I remember very clearly back then, Internet Explorer was straight up at war with netscape navigator. Even if you say disagree with the anti trust for bundling IE with windows, you can not disagree that microsoft was even trying to intefere in html by supporting non standard tags that netscape did not, meaning lots of corporate sites had to, HAD TO use IE or nothing.
Well, he was right but he underestimated trog cell phone users who see a dollar sign and just push it to pay for everything. They don't realize there are adblockers and other ways to share information without paying. These big companies came to the internet and are now trying to lock things down to prevent people from sharing information. The DEFAULT mode of the internet was just sharing information - now companies are trying to change the way this place works for profit. You used to be able to right click every single image or video on the internet to SAVE IT. These days? Not as common. They're RUINING it.
@@ohio You're talking out of your arse my nigga. Bill Gates wasn't CEO when the mobile battle happened, although you could argue that he maintained effective leadership until his last day at Microsoft in 2008. Steve Ballmer was officially CEO from 2000 to 2014, he did a shitty job between 2008-2014 which were decisive years for mobile OS supremacy. Bill Gates was a visionary CEO, Ballmer is he one to blame for mocking iPhones and tablets, and not seeing the mobile wave approaching. Last time I heard, the two of them stopped talking because of the whole ordeal.
@@ohio Microsoft was deep into the Internet because they saw it as a way to even further strengthen Microsoft and increase its dominance in computer tech industry, they didn't see it as a way to create new Internet services and enable creativity. When I said deep I meant Internet Explorer which was meant to crush Netscape and gain ground and increase Microsoft's market share in new computer tech industry called Internet or Web, increase their market value and increase their power. And I think that I read an article which said Microsoft's employees were trying to persuade Bill to invest more into Mobile and he didn't want to do it he thought PC will rule computer industry forever unfortunately for Microsoft that didn't happen. Bill was more passionate about home entertainment industry and Microsoft's investment into Xbox than he was about Microsoft's investment into Windows Mobile.
@@alainportant6412 Microsoft created tablets before Apple but I think Bill's emphasis was on device's hardware and software than classic Apple's App Store which enabled tremendous creativity and distribution for app devs.
Seun Bill is usually like this, the antitrust Bill was an exception, Bill was undergoing a lot of pressure and it had a powerful impact on him. But I don’t think Bill is any less open now.
@Infinitee Prospecting it is very nice of you to remind me about this video ,so I can look it again and renew good hope that there are still wise people like Mr. Gates Bill and many more.sorry my English is not perfect but I know you will understand if you try hard.by the way ,have you ever heard of Chuck Feeney?
Then how they nose-dived off a cliff with all films in 2023 bombing and being slammed for forcing political agendas down our throats at the cinema… So that $7.42 billion was not well spent, it was lost. Real shame, that real shame. Not.
BillG was right that in the next 5 years online media didn’t make much revenue. But the interviewers were right that in 10 years ads and internet portals would dominate.
Did these journalists actually think they knew more about business than Bill gates? They seem to be arguing with him as if they know better than him. How insane.
27:52 "There will be no content club in my life time of a $4bn in revenue". 20 years later Disney is making a streaming service to compete with Netflix and HBO in content. It's funny how journalist get internet media business and advertising better than Bill. Also this interview took place before Google who shortly after launching became number one place for advertising not only on top of Google Search but on the whole web as well so nobody really knew how internet gonna look like but still...
Ship CommanderLoL Ok. Bill was wrong this time, so what?. It does not make his other contributions any less meaningful. Bill is really smart, but, he isn’t right about everything, is that your point?. Isn’t that obvious anyway?
@@CMMSFP I don't think he's wrong, if anything he did not yet realize that there were going to be just a few platforms for content creators, but these platforms don't make the content. If you look at youtube or facebook he's still completely right. There are a huge amount of channels and no one channel has a huge market share. Pewdiepie for example , while being the biggest creator by far is not even 10% 'of' youtube
@@bertlammens4392 I think Gates and journalists were referring to media content clubs like todays Disney+, Netflix and HBO. And all of them have multi billion dollar revenues. The thing you are talking about are user generated content platforms like Facebook, RUclips and Instagram. Individual content creators are not important the platform as a whole is important. Facebook, RUclips and Instagram are making billions and billions each. No matter how you look at the "content" it is very profitable and attractive industry.
If I heard it correctly, the Wired editors said content club revenues would be at ~$4B/year revenue by the year 2000. Netflix reached that figure at around 2012/13. They overestimated by over a decade 😬😆
I will Never get this Gates vs Jobs thing. They both helped to revolutionize technology as a whole. Microsoft is the biggest desktop OS in the World, the Office Suite is used by basically every student and every Company and the Xbox and Now Xbox with XCloud has helped revolutionize gaming and cloud / games services just as a few. Apple revolutionized the way we listen to and think about music with the iPod and iTuens, changed the smartphone and serving as the template as the way we design and use smartphones today, bring the idea of millions of apps is your pocket, created the best selling tablet and Apple Watch sales now make up a majority of not just smartwatch sales but watch sales in general. They are now both multi trillion dollar companies.
back in 1996 a computer would not have the proper networking/winsock stack unless you installed MSN. Not always true but often that was the reality for end users.
This is fascinating, given the massive shift that was happening at the time. At one point he even says that the newspapers will have the advantage in competing with the product they were calling "Cityscape" at the time, which was basically the dog-shit industry of publicizing local events and stuff. Not only did newspapers not monetize that, but nobody really did.
27:55 No content club that makes 4bn in Bills live time. "Be real" / "you have to be on drugs" - Boy was he wrong. Netflix, 25bn, Disney+ 4.3bn, and even the news papers are going in that directions... nytimes 1.2bn.
@@m1kr0kosmos Whatever that was, DVDs were expensive as fuck so they wouldn't give them up with a mere magazine. All things considered, that would easily fit on a classic 650 MB CD-Rom, even with their shit compression rate. Kids probably paid $20 for that extra disc and a few demos hopefully
@@alainportant6412 , magazines would sometimes do video recordings of interviews to be printed in text instead of basic audio recordings. Likely the video was then released later as an interesting footnote in history. A recording doesn't mean they intended a consumer side release.
William Henry Gates III (Seattle, Washington; 28 de octubre de 1955) es un magnate empresarial, desarrollador de software, inversor, autor y filántropo estadounidense. Es cofundador de Microsoft, junto con su difunto amigo de la infancia Paul Allen. Durante su carrera en Microsoft, Gates ocupó los cargos de presidente, director ejecutivo (CEO), presidente y arquitecto jefe de software, además de ser el mayor accionista individual hasta mayo de 2014. Fue uno de los principales empresarios de la revolución de las microcomputadoras de las décadas de 1970 y 1980.
The Gates Foundation should be changed into an international enterprise that will meet everyone’s expectations. The Gates family will be not live with their mouths shut! Mr Gates LAY HO LECK!!! 😂
This guys have no skill or passion to be in this kind of heated argumentation with Mr. Bill, he is pro level and they are nobody + wishful thinking. Specially her. And this is NORMAL for creating business. It's like this when you talk REAL THINGS not a corporate bullshit and its like this when you can do what you want to do and when u don't have boss over you, when ur the boss.
What motivation would you want him to have? When operating a business revenue is one of your key indicators of customer satisfaction, and it's your responsibility to run as a profitable company to be able to keep offering that satisfactory product/service.
The audio quality is out of this world :)
The Odwalla quality is out of this world.
He knew where Microsoft would be all along regardless of the monetary projections, and he knew that Microsoft would be a tools and infrastructure provider instead of a content aggregator and provider. Maybe he thought about this interview long after it was done and reformulated Microsoft's strategy when Bing was created and even when launching Azure. He evolved while knowing about Microsoft's core strengths.
All things considered I think it was a million times better to face Bill Gates and argue with him than talk with Steve Jobs even about the most trivial details. Jobs always looked like he thought he was above everybody else and was about to bite people's heads off.
You never worked with Steve not Bill so you won't know. People who worked with Steve had only good things to say about him.
Unrelatd but notice how good the sound quality is. 1996!!
Raghu K And the video focus I straight on
You actually had to use a real camera then which makes it much better so much of the early digital video
This is the real bill. The one that led microsoft into a monopoly. Open minded and a good listener but also a gladiator when he knows his right about his point when answering and proving you wrong
This is possibly the only long-form recorded video of him in his element
This video is great. Bill Gates express a lot of interesting and forward looking concepts. However, it is clear that he is trying to evade and mislead the interviewers into thinking that he is not into internet advertising or that a tech company like Microsoft could not compete in this market. I think he knew (and planned) that Microsoft could be a dominant player at this market, but the US government put a stop to him so Microsoft wouldn't be a complete monopoly in all Tech areas.
Yeah anti competition suits were heating up all over the place, they didnt ask him in and he goes in to try and tell them to print a story that they micorsoft not interested in the internet, they didnt do anything with is, so he probably kept having poor people executed in drug fueled rages back at his home. I remember very clearly back then, Internet Explorer was straight up at war with netscape navigator. Even if you say disagree with the anti trust for bundling IE with windows, you can not disagree that microsoft was even trying to intefere in html by supporting non standard tags that netscape did not, meaning lots of corporate sites had to, HAD TO use IE or nothing.
Yes I was getting that feeling throughout. He's putting it on, trying to look as if hes dismissing. Trying to leave no doubt.
Well, he was right but he underestimated trog cell phone users who see a dollar sign and just push it to pay for everything. They don't realize there are adblockers and other ways to share information without paying.
These big companies came to the internet and are now trying to lock things down to prevent people from sharing information. The DEFAULT mode of the internet was just sharing information - now companies are trying to change the way this place works for profit.
You used to be able to right click every single image or video on the internet to SAVE IT. These days? Not as common. They're RUINING it.
You can hear people describing Facebook and Google and he shoots the ideas down.
You are a genius. This is EXACTLY what I was thinking.
@@ohio You're talking out of your arse my nigga.
Bill Gates wasn't CEO when the mobile battle happened, although you could argue that he maintained effective leadership until his last day at Microsoft in 2008.
Steve Ballmer was officially CEO from 2000 to 2014, he did a shitty job between 2008-2014 which were decisive years for mobile OS supremacy.
Bill Gates was a visionary CEO, Ballmer is he one to blame for mocking iPhones and tablets, and not seeing the mobile wave approaching.
Last time I heard, the two of them stopped talking because of the whole ordeal.
@@ohio THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF
@@ohio Microsoft was deep into the Internet because they saw it as a way to even further strengthen Microsoft and increase its dominance in computer tech industry, they didn't see it as a way to create new Internet services and enable creativity. When I said deep I meant Internet Explorer which was meant to crush Netscape and gain ground and increase Microsoft's market share in new computer tech industry called Internet or Web, increase their market value and increase their power.
And I think that I read an article which said Microsoft's employees were trying to persuade Bill to invest more into Mobile and he didn't want to do it he thought PC will rule computer industry forever unfortunately for Microsoft that didn't happen. Bill was more passionate about home entertainment industry and Microsoft's investment into Xbox than he was about Microsoft's investment into Windows Mobile.
@@alainportant6412 Microsoft created tablets before Apple but I think Bill's emphasis was on device's hardware and software than classic Apple's App Store which enabled tremendous creativity and distribution for app devs.
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I’m in awe of his openness here. After the antitrust lawsuit, everything changed.
Seun Bill is usually like this, the antitrust Bill was an exception, Bill was undergoing a lot of pressure and it had a powerful impact on him. But I don’t think Bill is any less open now.
Openness? He wouldnt even entertain the idea of “content clubs” being successful.
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He(Mr. Bill ) is deeply intelligent and creative ,well concentrated person
@Infinitee Prospecting it is very nice of you to remind me about this video ,so I can look it again and renew good hope that there are still wise people like Mr. Gates Bill and many more.sorry my English is not perfect but I know you will understand if you try hard.by the way ,have you ever heard of Chuck Feeney?
“No content club will do 4 billion in revenue in my life time.” lol
Disney+ made $7.42 Billion in revenue in 2022. Look how times change.
Then how they nose-dived off a cliff with all films in 2023 bombing and being slammed for forcing political agendas down our throats at the cinema… So that $7.42 billion was not well spent, it was lost. Real shame, that real shame. Not.
30 years ago in which he said 4 billion . How much is 4 billion today ? You think 7 ?
@@joshuasmith9350 Nice point. I did the math, roughly $9B today
I have one question out of discussion. What shirt is Bill wearing? i have never seen that.
Good to get Bill Gates' strategic direction. Good insights.
BillG was right that in the next 5 years online media didn’t make much revenue. But the interviewers were right that in 10 years ads and internet portals would dominate.
"It's advertising, it's advertising". Bill says. So this wired journalist thought it's not advertising if you aren't paying for advertising. Lol
Did these journalists actually think they knew more about business than Bill gates? They seem to be arguing with him as if they know better than him. How insane.
Hubris
27:52 "There will be no content club in my life time of a $4bn in revenue". 20 years later Disney is making a streaming service to compete with Netflix and HBO in content. It's funny how journalist get internet media business and advertising better than Bill.
Also this interview took place before Google who shortly after launching became number one place for advertising not only on top of Google Search but on the whole web as well so nobody really knew how internet gonna look like but still...
Ship CommanderLoL
Ok. Bill was wrong this time, so what?. It does not make his other contributions any less meaningful.
Bill is really smart, but, he isn’t right about everything, is that your point?. Isn’t that obvious anyway?
@@CMMSFP I don't think he's wrong, if anything he did not yet realize that there were going to be just a few platforms for content creators, but these platforms don't make the content. If you look at youtube or facebook he's still completely right. There are a huge amount of channels and no one channel has a huge market share. Pewdiepie for example , while being the biggest creator by far is not even 10% 'of' youtube
@@bertlammens4392 I think Gates and journalists were referring to media content clubs like todays Disney+, Netflix and HBO. And all of them have multi billion dollar revenues. The thing you are talking about are user generated content platforms like Facebook, RUclips and Instagram. Individual content creators are not important the platform as a whole is important. Facebook, RUclips and Instagram are making billions and billions each. No matter how you look at the "content" it is very profitable and attractive industry.
@@shipcommanderlol6577 but he at the beggining of the interview said in the next 10 years lest see, so in that sense he wasn't wrong
That's because nobody wants to LEARN how the internet works so they think movies cost money. They don't realize it's all free.
wow, i like the 90s video quality...
BillG's trademark rocking is wonderfully exhibited, I wonder what is on his chin
@Verbal Diarrhea Which would make him incapable of deception.
If I heard it correctly, the Wired editors said content club revenues would be at ~$4B/year revenue by the year 2000.
Netflix reached that figure at around 2012/13.
They overestimated by over a decade 😬😆
this guy is focused, driven, visionary and creative. Steve Jobs held nothing to Gates
You can say that again. I think so ,too.
I will Never get this Gates vs Jobs thing. They both helped to revolutionize technology as a whole. Microsoft is the biggest desktop OS in the World, the Office Suite is used by basically every student and every Company and the Xbox and Now Xbox with XCloud has helped revolutionize gaming and cloud / games services just as a few. Apple revolutionized the way we listen to and think about music with the iPod and iTuens, changed the smartphone and serving as the template as the way we design and use smartphones today, bring the idea of millions of apps is your pocket, created the best selling tablet and Apple Watch sales now make up a majority of not just smartwatch sales but watch sales in general. They are now both multi trillion dollar companies.
Yeah! He's up there with Stalin & Mao as a Mass Murdering Psychopath😈👍😁
Its absurd to compare them. Apple sells/sold hardware. M sells software. They arent even competitors.
And he also wants to help depopulate the earth.
He is a good listener and love hearing himself talk
He is a good computertechnologist and knows about what he talks perhaps, do you.
@@saskiavanhoutert6081
Based & Gates pilled
back in 1996 a computer would not have the proper networking/winsock stack unless you installed MSN.
Not always true but often that was the reality for end users.
MSN then signed up for Prodigy or CompuServe or IBM Information Superhighway
Google proved him wrong within 3 years of this.
Bill gates can be exceptionally good at anything given to him..he hss a very high IQ and very cal and focussed...
nadam se da je razumljivo.......................On(gosp.Bill)je duboko inteligentna i kreativna,dobro koncentrirana osoba.
Good job bill at thinking of the needs of the everyday person when writing code. May it always help the everyday people. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
you look like you have a nice and comfortable poitrail, bravo
This is fascinating, given the massive shift that was happening at the time. At one point he even says that the newspapers will have the advantage in competing with the product they were calling "Cityscape" at the time, which was basically the dog-shit industry of publicizing local events and stuff. Not only did newspapers not monetize that, but nobody really did.
Bill was correct, it took very long to monetize content
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27:55 No content club that makes 4bn in Bills live time. "Be real" / "you have to be on drugs" - Boy was he wrong. Netflix, 25bn, Disney+ 4.3bn, and even the news papers are going in that directions... nytimes 1.2bn.
28:00- He didn't see the streaming era coming
My Bill, my love, my life, my All😍😍😍💑💖💖💖💖
Honey I've got money too... Lol
I love how dead wrong bill was here. Wish he could make a reaction video on this
I like this bill, not the nice old grandpa that he's portraying himself as now, this bill is a shark!
Was 41-years-old Bill like a shark ? Really ? Why ? Did you thin so ?
Coke needs to anti up for The Odwalla product placement
Bob 2.0! I wonder when Microsoft finally stopped development on that one.
Who watched this in 1996 ??
Obviously you couldn't stream a 52 minutes interview on the internet.
it says its a wired interview? thats a magazine
@@m1kr0kosmos Whatever that was, DVDs were expensive as fuck so they wouldn't give them up with a mere magazine.
All things considered, that would easily fit on a classic 650 MB CD-Rom, even with their shit compression rate. Kids probably paid $20 for that extra disc and a few demos hopefully
@@alainportant6412 , magazines would sometimes do video recordings of interviews to be printed in text instead of basic audio recordings. Likely the video was then released later as an interesting footnote in history. A recording doesn't mean they intended a consumer side release.
@@JimBob1937 huh that's correct, I remember getting Take2 demo cds when I bought those cheat code magazines back in 1999 or something
interviewer utters "Profitable" "Shmofitable" around 29:00
precisely at 28:24
thank u @@exodaniel
Bill's body language it's all over the place, and he talks just like Owen Wilson. Did you notice that? lmao! Smart dude though.
"even our games are internet-related" ... how is that not among the first things?
That dude keep moving his juice lm 🤣
I was a few minutes late by meeting him personally.
29:32 You're on drugs 😂😂
Social User Interface Profile of the User Bill !!! Facebook !!!
Bill gates sir mein aapse milne jaunga mein kavibi aapko chorunga nehi
now microsoft media and entertainment business-xbox, is making billions
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William Henry Gates III (Seattle, Washington; 28 de octubre de 1955) es un magnate empresarial, desarrollador de software, inversor, autor y filántropo estadounidense. Es cofundador de Microsoft, junto con su difunto amigo de la infancia Paul Allen. Durante su carrera en Microsoft, Gates ocupó los cargos de presidente, director ejecutivo (CEO), presidente y arquitecto jefe de software, además de ser el mayor accionista individual hasta mayo de 2014. Fue uno de los principales empresarios de la revolución de las microcomputadoras de las décadas de 1970 y 1980.
English Felix we cannot understand
Wow what a treasure this is
Moser and Corp possible assist. Erica
Bill gates sir❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊
Christ , this man is smart.
And dangerous.
@@SpiritualReform I feel like I need to tell you something your parents clearly didn't say enough: you are an idiot.
Spent a lot of time talking about 4 Billion in content revenue is it still impossible today?
He should just stick with computers and leave humans alone.
30:14 thanks for pulling away this dumb orange juice thing
The Gates Foundation should be changed into an international enterprise that will meet everyone’s expectations. The Gates family will be not live with their mouths shut! Mr Gates LAY HO LECK!!! 😂
Bill gates sir mein kavibi aapse milne nehi jaunga mein aapko pehchan giya
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very emotional fascinating time, about who will take supremacy in Internet media
Long way from toilets
49:55 vchat?
What’s on his chin?
This was recorded the same date as when the pandemic was declared.
I want to drink what he is having 😅
0:20
This guys have no skill or passion to be in this kind of heated argumentation with Mr. Bill, he is pro level and they are nobody + wishful thinking. Specially her. And this is NORMAL for creating business. It's like this when you talk REAL THINGS not a corporate bullshit and its like this when you can do what you want to do and when u don't have boss over you, when ur the boss.
Yeah Xbox such and doesn't make money
what in the world are they drinking?????
Apple juice. Greases the wheels.
Do you love dogs or sweet baby rays? Yours doesn’t seem to. It’s not. No hearts for you!
31:00 “we’re only doing it if it’s profitable” pretty much all he cares about.
What motivation would you want him to have? When operating a business revenue is one of your key indicators of customer satisfaction, and it's your responsibility to run as a profitable company to be able to keep offering that satisfactory product/service.
No shit, he runs a business
32:45 little wikipedia seed there and there.
may seem like an odd thing to say but why does Bill try to make himself look so horrible. Does he really need glasses to cover half his face.
Creepy guy
27:55 Disney+ makes over $4 bn annually today so boy was he wrong, or am I missing what they're referring to as 'content club'?
What's a content club ?
Even then, Cisco was trash