How Rochdale Became the Weirdest By-Election
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Rochdale just elected George Galloway in a by-election that saw multiple candidates disavowed by their parties and campaigns mired in controversy. So in this video, we'll explain what's happened and what this says about the upcoming general election.
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I find it amusing that the Labour candidate was rejected by the party for anti-Israel comments, but then Rochdale elected Galloway, literally the most anti-Israel politician in the UK.
There's a disconnect between Starmer and previous labour voters
......oh yeah!
Ha!
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You suggesting he’s not anti-Semitic enough?
@user-op8fg3ny3j its a increasingly stupid disconnect though. Labour has no power, and even if they did, would they be able to stop what happening in Gaza? No.
I think it's more that after Jeremy Corbyn, the UK labour party doesn't want to be seen as anti-semitic, so they were quick to drop their candidate.
No Labour candidate.
No Green candidate.
Yet the people voted for literally anyone other than the Tory candidate.
Who did better than the labour candidate.
Labour had a candidate. Ali was a labour candidate. They just withdrew support. But be was the labour ticket
@@NC-dw3tk good joke
@@NC-dw3tk who was utterly humiliated. Tell me again though that it was rigged why don't ya
@@NC-dw3tk the guy who is a nonce yet his marketing tactic was to say he has stopped the nonces.
The constituency hasn't voted Tory since the 50's. So it's not even due to the current demographics, it's just a left-wing safe seat.
Anti-Israel doesn't necessarily equal antisemitism
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But in Galloways case it absolutely does. This is a man who walked out of a debate when he found out his opponent was Jewish, and in 2014 refused to vote on a resolution for the recognition of a future Palestinian state because the resolution also recognised Israel. Like there comes a point when it beyond being critical of Israel, and Galloway has been past that for decades.
@@joshuacampbell1625 the issue here is that the two statue solution wont work since in 2005 israel chose to ATTACK palestine. ever since then the recognition of israel as an entity has been called into question. ever since its clear israel is a warmongering place keen on destroying civilian lives to draw out more money and funds for their war machine. even now israel murderer a hundred people seeking food and wounded hundreds more. so yeah, questioning the legality of israel should be called into question, if their existence was with the innitial state of them recognising palestine and other neighbouring countries, which they have never, ever fullfilled.
decades of etnic and cultural cleansing, and you still think Israel has a right to exist as an entity? really?
@@joshuacampbell1625are you sure it was because he was Jewish, and not because of his political beliefs?
@@user-op8fg3ny3jso he's either anti semetic or childish. What a choice
Rishi Sunak, the unelected Prime Minister, is ‘deeply alarmed’ when democracy does not work in his favour.
He is an elected politician, he was elected with 63.6% share in the Richmond (Yorks) constituency. He just wasn't the leader of the Conservative Party during that election.
@@tigrafale4610 I meant prime minister
@@annamkhalid277 But Boris Johnson also wasn't elected as prime minster, he was chosen by parliament as leader of the conservative party to be prime minister
@idoshulman6379 he then he won an actual election, giving him more seats
I too was surprised I didn't live under a presidential system. Then I turned 10 and learned this.
Calling a critique of Israel anti-semitic is not only inaccurate but is itself anti-semitic 😂
Jews are cry babies anyway while insulting everyone else
I agree that criticism of Israel us not the same as being anti-Jewish however many of Mr Galloway's comments over the years have managed to be both, when he need not, sadly.
George Galloway refuses to debate people who were born in Israel. How is that a "critique" of Israel exactly?
It would be pretty weird to have a politican refuse to debate someone just because they were born in Syria or something.
Also, how is it "itself anti-semitic"?
@@elithompson4167Conflating Israel with all of Judaism implies that all Jews fundamentally agree with and support each other. Which...yikes.
@@Doogie2K3 The majority of Israelis absolutely loath 'bibi' and the fanatical religious settlers who currently infest his government.
How hilarious. "He historically described Israel as an apartheid state". You mean he is stating what human rights organisations across the globe and inside Israel itself is saying? Oh how biased of him!
Get a life.
Really done him in with that limp wristed comeback comrade ✊
I am tired of literally anything against Israel getting called "antisemitic".
The "antisemite" weaponization is a tired trick used to deflect attention away from war crimes. To have them thrown around in an allegedly unbiased video, unchallenged, is indeed disconcerting.
Why can Arabs have a state and
not Jews then?
That sounds pretty antisemitic of you, NGL.
@@EricT01 😅
Don't you support the continuous massacre of innocents in Gaza? You must be an anti semite
We really need stop calling Israel-critical positions anti-semitism. Israel is a nation state with its own policies, and plenty of Jewish folks don’t support it. Just as, say, it’s not hatred of Catholics to be against the way the Vatican covers up priest’s sexual predations.
The problem with that is there Venn diagram of 'vocally critical of Israel' and 'antisemitic' is essentially a circle at this point because the zionists have forced everyone else into silence because it's not worth dealing with the backlash.
Unfortunately, the (Israeli promoted) common definition of antisemitism, the IHRA includes criticism of the Israeli state and it’s policies in seven of the eleven ‘working examples’ given of antisemitism.
This is the policy Labour - and many political parties - use or used, and while not legally binding, would doubtless be argued in court if a Hate Speech charge reached trial.
Thank you, I came here to post that. I've followed Galloway for years, and I disagree with those who casually paint him as an anti-semite. Every state and its actions should be analyzed and criticized.
Since the attacks Governments and many in the Media have done everything they can to pretend there are no Jews critical of Israel
Its even worse than that. You can even criticize war criminals like Netanyahu without someone accusing you of being anti-semitic
"Galloway has historically described Israel as a apartheid state"
So has Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and B'Tselem. Are you implying they"re all antisemitic?
Yes they are. When Israel has 2 million Arab Muslims with full voting rights, it’s ridiculous as a proposition. Even more so since 50% of Israeli Jews are Arab Jews ie come from Islamic countries and are not white. So how can Israel be apartheid or racist when most of its population, both Jewish and overall, isn’t even white.
Literally, now I realize this channel is just pure sh*t 😂 Definitely run by Zionists
They are attempting to water it down, make it seem as an opinion instead of an categorical fact
I cant watch TLDR anymore. They are clearly supportive of the genocide.. for what I dont know.
yes
Sunak wanted culture wars, actively cultivated culture wars to pit British citizen against British citizen and now complains about that. Tories are finished as far as I’m concerned. Instead of concentrating on improving British productivity, improving skills, improving infrastructure the Tories are more interested in making British people angry at each other. Now Sunak has the brass neck to complain when that’s comes back to bite him.
Culture wars is inevitable when you welcome in another culture whilst promising to do the opposite, for decades.
Well said
And it is exactly what he has now got.
Culture war because Muslims cannot get along with humans.
The current out of touch Labour leadership (lots who actively worked against Corbyn and progressives) isn't reaping all the benefits they could have. If a right wing government in Israel doesn't get the pushback for genocide, then is Labour really progressive to begin with?
I hope the incompetence shakes things up but Galloway is a terrible alternative, btw.
Criticism of Isreal as a political entity does not equate to criticism of Judaism, and therefore are not anti-semetic. The systematic and calculated actions of the IDF against civilians currently in Gaza are warcrimes, nothing less. I should add that I do not condone the actions of Hamas either.
Much zionist i’ve been arguing with says that zionism is judaism,care to clarify?
Unfortunately too many people aren’t smart enough to have this opinion
Galloway, conversely, *does* condone the actions of Hamas.
SO DONT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7th
1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938
4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Haifa Massacre 1947
7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
12. Jaffa Massacre 1948
13. Deir Yassin Massacre - 1948
14.Tantura Massacre - 1948
15. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
16. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
17. Bahro Al Baquar in 1972
18. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
19 Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990
20. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
21. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
22. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
23. Gaza Massacre 2012
24. Gaza Massacre 2014
25. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
26. Gaza Massacre 2021
27. Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing.
DONT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7th
Thats what killed Jeremy Corbyn that and Murdoch
I dont understand what's weird about this.
The vast majority of britain goes 'genocide is bad'.
All parties running in this election disagree.
Someone comes along and says 'genocide bad, actually. This must stop immediately'. People vote for this person.
Truly shocking and bizzare stuff
Labour: "We call for a ceasefire and believe that the future lies in a two-state solution."
Galloway: "Have you met the leaders of Hamas? Cracking bunch of lads. October 7th was a glorious day in their liberation struggle."
Remind me, who is the pro-genocide option here?
@@alexpotts6520labour is 6 months too late, and has only used Gaza as a political tool instead of actually doing anything
@@alexpotts6520why are you quoting Galloway but making up bullshit?
It's weird because Tldr are centrists
@@keithparker1346 I'm paraphrasing, but he's been pro-Hamas for decades (and generally supportive of anyone who hates Israel/the west, no matter how ghastly); this is well-known.
This is the first indication that voters are paying attention to the individual candidates. To have such a massive swing, shows people are voting with their feet, rather than just choosing a party.
Not sure their voting with their feet this would mean they would have to show some ID. More likely through the post.
Remember kids, anti israel doesnt mean antisemitism
True, but it's real concerning how much of an overlap there is in the people actually politicking on those grounds.
@@Bushflareokay but in Ali’s case there was no overlap.
@@bababababababa6124
Labour member. Not worth taking the chance.
@@bababababababa6124 In Ali's case, it wasn't necessarily antisemitism but Labour couldn't keep him on without looking bad, Galloway is 100% an antisemite.
@@mildlydispleased3221”necessarily” no bro it wasn’t AT ALL 😂
Nothing 'weird' about it, wake up and smell the coffee, people are fed up with 2 sides of the same backside.
Ethics of micro targeting! What did the Tories do with Cambridge Analytics!
Underrated comment
Yup that got memoryholed
The only issue with anti-Semitism is that any and all criticism of Israel is called anti-Semitic regardless of whether it is or not. All racism should be treated the same.
Also more concerning is how both Conservatives and Labour calling voting for anyone but someone they approve of as extremists and enemies of democracy.
It literally isn't though. I have criticised the Israeli government many, many times, and have never once been criticised for antisemitism.
"Netanyahu have killed thousands of civilians, many of them children, in Gaza, this is bad" - not antisemitic.
"Jewish people outside of Israel are complicit in these war crimes." "From the river to the sea..." "Hamas seem all right." These are antisemitic.
If you get criticised for antisemitism whenever you attack the Israeli government, perhaps take a second to pause and ponder whether your criticisms reflect these kind of antisemitic tropes in addition to the uncontroversial notion that civilian deaths are bad.
@@alexpotts6520You haven’t been around Zionists much then. Israel literally declared that the entirety of the ICJ was ‘hamas’ because they dared to read out the facts on Israel’s actions in Gaza lmao
@@alexpotts6520 u should say that to Starmer who has removed the whip from a number of Labour MP's for saying the same.
So maybe the issue is that your not prominent enough to be called anti-Semitic???
@@WhiteManInAVan they were being antisemitic
@@SirSX3 no mate. Anti-Israel is not anti-Semitic. Never has been and never will be. Land can never be and should never be exclusively just for people of certain religions. And guess what? Israel is land!
Galloway's tweet wasn't antisemitic. Criticism of Israel isn't antisemitism.
Galloway has always rubbed shoulders with any group, terrorist or otherwise that operated against the interest of Great Britain or any nation GB was aligned with. He is not only someone who sought sexual favours from a child but also somebody who hates his own nation and his own people.
Well done George, one of the few anti-genocide and anti-apartheid MPs in Parliament.
Well he was pretty cosy with Saddam Hussein as he exterminated the Shias and Kurds in his country.
@@GD-jc3wx So was the US and multiple European countries until Saddam wanted money to pay his war debts.
@@GD-jc3wx you got quiet now little zionist??
@@GD-jc3wx tbh many western countries used to be cosy with saddam
You cannot be serious.
The man is bat shit crazy and he's only "antigenocide" because he's antisemitic and hates Labour and Tories so of course he'd disagree with any of their decisions.
is the anti-semitic tweet in the room with us?
Use this doll to show where the antisemitic tweet touched you.
Thumbnail is misleading. Isn't ever by election one where everyone* loses?
* except the person who comes first
What part of the tweet was antisemitic? He said he was happy there was no Israeli flags. If i am happy theres no Russian flags at a sporting event, does that make me anti-slav or russophobic? Or someone that desires the social isolation of a terrorist state (Russia, Rhodesia, Israel, etc)
No but it does make you pretty cringe for caring about flags. 🤷
Maybe it's me being American but I wouldn't expect Israeli flags at an UK sporting event in the first place so I don't know why he would cheer that.
@@Bushflare yeah US is pretty cringe you're right
But it's mostly caring about support for an appartheid state that's the matter here
@@Enden31
Speaking about flags the out-of-nowhere urge to slag off American patriotism sure is a red one. Fitting given the crowd who usually do it.
And as for Israel the apartheid thing is pretty low down on the list of reasons to be critical imo. Folks are really missing the forest for the trees on that front.
Maybe the same logic used by those who call people that desire the social isolation of a terrorist org H a m a s which has conducted deeds far worse than that you mentioned combined, Islamophobic.
The people of Rochdale elected him primarily because he opposes genocide in Gaza, like most people do. You may disagree, but its not weird. Its how democracy works.
Yet he finds with the slogan of River to the Sea do called for genocide for Jews in Israel looks pretty hypocritical
@@FireCat34From the River to the Sea can mean different things in different contexts. For example the ruling party in Israel, Likud's slogan is "From the River to the Sea, Israeli sovereignty". Is this a genocidal statement?
No. From the River to the Sea can mean, "freedom and equal rights for Palestinians"
What genocide?
@@FireCat34 When a chant about freedom offends you more than the actual genocide going on, you can stay mad.
@@FireCat34 we can challenge hamas' charter once we stop the larger terrorist state with nukes from genociding a people
So Azhar Ali claimed, without evidence, that Israel allowed the Hamas attack to create pretext for Israel to attack Gaza, and Azhar Ali got punished.
But a certain Tony Blair and his entire cabinet plus numerous MPs and Lords claimed without evidence that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction which led to a war and occupation that resulted in millions of Iraqis dying and thousands of American and British soldiers dead or wounded , that is meh, no bigy , nothing to look at or worry about.
But one saying that Israel knew or facilitated an attack so that they can attack back, oh then that is a no no.
What a bunch of idiots
No, ali right. Never heard jerico wall document ? Search it
But Iraq did have WMD, they used them against the Kurds, Iranians and Israelis.
@@bristoled93 whatever helps you sleep at night. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
plus they opened the doors for groups like ISIS, knowing full well the damage they would cause, when Saddam and Gadaffi kept the door firmly locked, lesser of two evils.
Blair and the Bushe's knew exactly what they were doing,
@@bristoled93 then why did not americans found WMD in Iraq?
Galloway clearly has rattled the Big parties
Sunak popped up with an emergency statement immediately
Rattling Rishi Sunak is no big achievement. The man is afraid of his own shadow.
Because he is a literal antisemite. He will do nothing to stop the deaths of Palestinians, won't do anything to help Rochdale, he'll just stir up tensions at home.
Spineless socially left wing conservative that hates the white working class gets rattled when his enemy that also hates the white working class loses too. SHOCK HORROR your country is now a third world colony!
Well they already had a Chinese honeypot sleeping with half of their party, is there much difference in letting it be a Chinese bearded Scotsman this time?
Its not anti semitic to be anti-israel
Not to state the obvious but that would depend on why you're anti-Israel, siding with a group that wants to commit genocide against the Jew's is obviously kinda antisemitic.
@@ThisPhone-lh8moexactly
Yes, it is.
It is as it's the Jews' only homeland. Crying about Israel after centuries of anti-Semitism is comedic.
@@TheAmericanPrometheusNo it isn't.
IF larksmith is against what the state of Israel and/or the IDF is doing in Gaza & at the same time is against what China is doing to the Uighurs & what Russia is doing in Ukraine, then it is simply consistent.
IF they are ONLY against Israel, but pro-ruzzia, then yes it would be anti-semitic.
I'm against ALL religions in politics, i think a state, ANY state should be secular, so my stance is the first, against the violence, against facism in all its forms. Whether that violence is in Congo,(largely ignored by the world) in Crimea or in Gaza, my reaction is the same.
Galloway for his own egotistical reasons is the second.
They didn't mention what is possibly the most pertinent reason for the failure of the major parties which is that the British public have simply become disillusioned with a political system which is so clearly and obviously broken and run by crooks and grifters utterly lacking in moral integrity or even simple professionalism within the leadership of both major parties.
Nah, it's because it's a Labour safe seat with no Labour candidate. Simple as that.
Exactly
English people are saying care for England and that's perfectly understandable. But trying to push the narrative Galloway doesn't care about England because he's very outspoken on a different issue is just plain wrong.
He's had plenty of things declared for change such as maternity services, controlling the housing crisis, gang control etc. just as every other candidate. So that argument doesn't really hold ground.
And also his election is also a message that British people also care for things other than the confines of their island. You got English people say they don't care about Gaza. Shouldn't they care that their government is supplying Israel with weapons in all these terrible things they're doing?
I do not think being empathetic towards others makes you less of a patriot guys.
What if they are empathetic towards Isreal like the tories clearly are?
it's just funny how his campaign completly switches from "i care all about england" to "fuck israel" based on the religion or race of his supporters lol
@@pedronabais1456 i wouldn't call it switching. His campaign had numerous issues to adress doesn't mean that if you adress one of them the others are invalid
@@GothPaoki mate those 2 papers happenrd at the same time in the same areas to different people
This is the first UK election result in the 2020s that I'm actually happy with.
He's a genocide denial
Can anyone tell me what the word is to describe someone who criticises the government of France? Or Italy? Or Burkina Faso? Or Australia? Or any nation on earth? No, because none exists. I hope, increasingly, that the world isolates Israel.
Don't be criticising muslims tho, that's islamaophobic.
I love how people make it seem as if being Anti-Israel is automatically Anti-semitic. If anything the anti-semitic people want an Israel to exist so that the Jews aren't in "their country"
And i don't see describing Israel as an apartheid state controversial when it meets the definition of an apartheid state.
No one is more antisemitic than the Palestinians. We have seen what they would do to Israelis if they get the chance.
Yeah the fact that in this video TLDR themselves are upholding that conflation makes me seriously question some of their other comments. A few years ago they talked about how the UK Labour Party was tackling their antisemitism problem. Was that real? Or did some Labour members just criticise the apartheid state of Israel? I don't know, and now I don't know that I can trust TLDR's earlier reporting on the subject.
I love how antisemites play this stupid motte-and-bailey game where, whenever you criticise their antisemitism, they don't actually defend it (because it's indefensible), and instead defend their criticism of Israel, something they weren't being attacked for.
**Downplays antisemitism** **says something antisemitic** **then doubles down on antisemtitism** you nutters in a nutshell
@@JimCullen "How the Financial Times Won the Newspaper Wars" is the best TLDR video ever made.
It's really strange that you didn't even cover the independent guy that came in second place. Who is he? Why did he came in second place?
What I took from this is that the only people still pursuing a career in politics, are also the people so dangerously stupid and short-sighted they should have never been allowed to pursue a career in politics.
Several times, you've noted criticism of Israel as "anti-semitic." It's not. Israel is state, not an ethnicity.
And given it's a state currently run by a madman who is leading a genocide, suggesting that Israeli flags are as offensive as Russian flags is totally fair.
5:30 Also note that you don't have to be a particular ethnicity or religion to support the Palestinian cause. You simply have to be a human with some understanding of history and some empathy.
I still do not understand why there were no video about the speeker issue...
I'm enjoying the spectacle of the 2 big Parties and the main stream media being on the losing side. They certainly don't like it up 'em do they...🤣
Your comments is the dumbest, most hollow display of brain rot populism I have read in a while. Congratulations
It’s not weird as your title suggests. Anyone could see this coming. As Galloway put it best, ‘Starmer and Sunak are two cheeks of the same backside and they both have been well and truly spanked tonight in Rochdale.’ There is no difference between the Conservative Party and Starmer’s Labour. Galloway won more votes than Labour, the Tories and Lib Dem’s combined and then some. The people have spoken and they want change - and you can’t blame them.
"There is no difference betwen the Conservative Party and Labour."
I'm afraid the British electorate strongly disagrees with you on this, and has an enormous preference for one over the other.
Labour wasn't in the election you sponge. Not only is your both side-ism stupid, you're wrong about the reason Galloway won. He just slipped into a void labour created, he didn't beat them because he's offering great politics.
@@alexpotts6520I’m sorry but you guys basically became the US elections. Labor is the 99% Hitler party and the Tories are the 100% Hitler party
Yes there is no difference for YOU because you're just obsessed with Palestine
The turnout was shit, you can’t know what the people think from a local election in Rochdale where the only real candidate got disavowed.
A few things I've noticed about the so called impartiality of this video, firstly The expression from the river to the sea is in no way anti-Semitic and is only seen as so by hardcore Zionists, you also fail to mention others who have referred to Israel as an apartheid state, such extremists as Sir Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela, even the ICJ has used similar language recently to describe Israel's actions in Gaza and has even gone further as to rule Israel's continued occupation since 1967 as illegal and Palestinian attempts to withstand its oppressors as legal. Only the leaders of the UK and US plus a handful of Western leaders appear to support Israeli war crimes and Genocide in Gaza. When it comes down to it, I would hazard a guess most BRICS countries oppose it and want a resolution, same for in Ukraine. Instead we're selling arms to the oppressors and are complicit in any war crimes committed there imho.
From the River to the Sea is antisemitism in original Arabic it's means Palestine will be Arab or Palestine be Muslim also call genocide Jews in Israel
Imagine having more than two political parties
If the UK had a proportional system, voting third party wouldn't be much of a gamble.
Imagine one being a supporter of islamist terrorists and winning
imagine bipartisan system 🙏🥰
Most of the world finds that common
That is why GB is stuffed. The First Past the Post system means people are stuck with these two failed parties. In other countries, a bad party can be replaced by a new party. Of course, it suits both of them to take turns at being in power, so they won't change it.
Wait, people over there in the UK are actually mad that Galloway had campaign literature printed for specific voting groups? That’s standard practice in American politics…
It's normal here too. That doesn't mean it's good!
i mean based on religion and race... kinda, but yeah maybe it's just different in the UK
2:59 That phrase is acceptable if Knesset representatives use it to advocate for their own cause though.
3:03 When was "apartheid" a controversial comment to make?
3:07 Yet the Tories were alright to tailor their campaign to Indian voters by appealing to Kashmir.
spot on brother!
also, the torries have made comments where they willingly break the law to supply israel with weapons, threaten anyone who continues to hold them accountable. making islamaphobic comments, etc. thats problematic.
1. no it's not, people that say it is are hypocrites, it's deplorable in both contexts
2. yeah I kinda agree with him on this one, and have done for a long time before current conflict.
3. again, it's also bad when they do it, this is just what-aboutism
@@JottoHearthStonenot really, this sets a political precedent so when your opponents try to squash you with it you have to fight them at their own game
@@user-op8fg3ny3j depends on the game, if the goal is to stop genocidal calling, the response isn't to argue its fine for you to do the same, that just means you are just as bad as the people you are fighting.
Genuine question, do by-election winners have to run for their seat again in the GE later this year?
Yep. So it's a temp role
Yes, but as the incumbent, they will have an advantage when it comes to the general election.
Yes they do, and actually it's even worse, there are boundary changes so in some cases the seat will be significantly different to the one that they won the by-election.
it's the same thing as special elections in the US to fill the seat
@@danielzhang1916 yah I understand it fills a seat, I just wondered if they had to go through re-election at the GE, which I now know they do.
How is any of the positions stated/claimed/made anti semitic?
what's anti semetic about the tweet?
River to the sea all Palestine will be Islamic. Yeah sounds pretty questionable even without the river of blood version.
@@orangutanenthusiast5631it's not anti Semitic at all since Palestinians themselves are semites
Israel is an apartheid state though, that's not a controversial statement and is widely accepted
Facts
Hunnid percent
It isn't. Arab citizens in Israel have just as many rights as Israeli citizens.
@@DaDARKPassAgreed. Israel have places like Gaza de-facto independence, and people still scream “apartheid state” when the two are basically different states. Arabs are treated with equality and respect in Israel.
@@DaDARKPassCare to explain the illegal settlements in the west bank? Most Palestinians there even didn’t have electricity;not mentioning what kind of labor they have to do to support their own families.
2:44 should probably clarify that it was perceived as anti-semitic rather than outright saying it was
Daily Mail made sure they released the statement after Labour couldn’t change the candidate, this wasn’t an accident.
Saying that Anti-Israel is antisemitism is bullshit. Just because he’s supports Gaza doesn’t mean he’s against Jews.
agree
I think the choices for "controversial" things Galloway has done/said is a little - most of the ones highlighted here are just having fairly common opinions about the Israeli state, and being clever about campaigning. There are actual bad things he's done, like setting up aid charities that don't deliver any aid (other than to his own pocket), working for Russian and Chinese state media, and arguably being supportive of dictators, dog whistling around race, religion, queer people, etc., not really showing up as an MP - e.g. going on Celebrity Big Brother while being a sitting MP. Galloway is bad but not because of disingenuous arguments about anti-Israel comments being anti-Semitic.
But given all the support he has for clearly antisemitic dictators, reasonable to think that he might be antisemitic himself, at least in consequence if not in intention?
I'd like to know more about this Ravin Rodent Subortna, and how the Raving Monster Party works. Pretty sure it's a joke campaign, but it still takes time, effort, and money to run even a joke campaign.
Calling Galloway an antisemitic should be a crime. So disappointed in you TLDR
I would vote for Monster Raving Loony Party candidate. He seems to be the one most down to earth.
He seems like the only sane one to be honest...
it's ironic that he was the only candidate without any scandals
It's a bit strange not to mention the fact that Galloway had a show on RT for 9 years.
I miss RT. Alex Salmond, Renegade Inc, Galloway, Cross Talk. Better than the BBC.
@@stuartwray6175I still watch it on Odysee
@@stuartwray6175 You can still watch it. Check other video sites.
@@stuartwray6175 You can still watch.
It’s okay he does CCTV occasionally now, I’m sure he is a rational actor working in the interests of democracy.
Anti Israel isn’t the same as anti semitism. It means anti colonial apartheid rule. A rule that is currently committing genocide in Gaza according to the ICJ. TLDR, you need to put these terms in the proper context. There is a reason Galloway won a super plurality.
They should've voted for Official Monster Raving Loony Party. As it happens, they unfortunately got an actual monster raving loony in George Galloway. Dissapointed in no coverage of Monster Raving Loony here.
I'm done with you guys u throw the word antisemitism around like its a basketball on a court.
What was antisemitic about what Azhar Ali said on October 7th? Yeah, it seemed a bit conspiratorial, but Netanyahu himself admitted that he sees Hamas as an asset.
Think its different to Netanyahu having seen Hamas as an asset to being secretly behind the attacks on his own people
Exactly
The fact that people specifically on the left don't have a problem with Oct 7 is concerning.
What is antisemitic? Literally insinuating that Israelis are barbarians who let oct 7 happen as an excuse to hurt palestinians.
Yeah. I don't think that's antisemitic. It's a plausible conspiracy theory given Netanyahu's past. But in fairness, you can't have politicians asserting things like that as fact. It would be a diplomatic nightmare.
It's basically what we know to have happened. For those who missed it, we know now Israel knew Hamas was planning something for a /year/ in advance, and both US and Egyptian intelligence sounded the alarm in the days before October 7th.
It was a bad idea, politically, for Ali to speculate about the "how" and "why" of Israel's lack of response, but hardly an "antisemitic" conclusion.
Kinda disappointed how little he covered David Tully, an independent that got the second most votes in an election is a rare but welcome sight. What were his positions like? Just glanced over him
From the little I can discern, he's not really a political guy, he just loves his town and sensed (possibly correctly) that most of the other runners didn't really care about it as much as they cared about their own egos.
I've got to be honest, people like him could have a bigger and more positive influence on British politics, than chancers like Galloway.
@@alexpotts6520 damn, seems like a nice guy but doomed by not having a party.
Hopefully Labour recruits him for the next GE.
@@SirSX3 I do think there are thousands of people out there who would make great representatives but are hamstrung by not really fitting into any of the parties.
We see it occasionally with a few MPs who join a political party only because they want to be in parliament and being a party member is seen as a prerequisite step. Take for example, Rory Stewart, who had never even voted before being selected as a Tory candidate, who cared about public service but not really about the Conservative Party, he just ended up there by default due to being extremely posh.
His mistake was running on local policy that actually mattered instead of just appealing to idiots over some foreign issue they can’t possibly influence. He was popular because he just ran as a normal guy who wanted nice things in the town.
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3:30 Microtargetting is common amongst all modern and mainstream political parties. It's not a big deal that Mr Galloway does this. It's just a media excuse to ostricise him. TLDR should be aware of this and it's disappointing that you are not.
No they should have ostracised him because he sought sexual favours from a child, but we all know thats completely acceptable to some communities in Britain. In good news for him they will replace the indigenous culture of Britain in a couple of decades so he's probably got a bright future. Naturally wars in the middle east matter more in your community when you've replaced the locals.
I was surprised to see it too - that's how the Tories and UKIP managed to persuade enough people to vote for Brexit against their interests!
Love the way you tell everything, very engaging and THANK YOU FOR THAT! 😊
I’ve lived in Rochdale for 35 years. It’s a Lancashire ex mill town. We are obviously more concerned about the situation in Israel than our extremely high gas and electricity prices, the NHS, Pensions, crime, our extremely defunded emergency services!…
I think people need to be reminded that it wasn't solely just Muslims that were voting for Galloway and that Anti-Irael isn't antisemitism.
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Galloway winning "seemed inconceivable..."? Only seemed inconceivable to idiots.
What I find amazing about this by-election, is that it shows that at least in Rochdale, people do not just blindly vote for the major parties. I half expected people to just vote for the Labour candidate because they vote Labour and always have. In a way this actually shows that the voting people in the UK (at least in Rochdale) are actively listening to the current situation around them and responding to it. This is a good sign for the health of our elections, and a bad sign for literally any party in the past who tried to contest this seat and others as now we have more evidence that they just didn't convince people rather than were unable to reach people.
George Galloway was against the NATO intervention in Kosovo
And denies the Uighurs Genocide
so don't think he is a Muslim champion
He just stands on the side of justice.
He's also pro-Assad and was pro-Saddam. So he definitely isn't a champion of Muslims.
@@dorson723justice is when defending russia?
The Islamic theocracy of Iran attacks other Muslim countries all the time, just because they're an Islamic theocracy doesn't mean they're in favour of Muslim.
@@TheTrojanHoughtmost muslims in south east asia fully support sadam
Calling israel a apartheid state is not antisemitic, it is a fact.
But why?.. Seriously, why is it an "apartheid" state? I actually don't know
@@ilyashalyginbecause it is. Full stop 🛑
@@Seyiwale6127 So no evidence, no citacions, nothing? Just your woed against theirs? Again, I don't know specifics, I just want to hear some facts.
@@ilyashalyginbecause various human rights organisations including Israeli human rights groups such as b’tselem have come to that conclusion.
@@mohammedhussain6749 I looked into that. From what I understand, its mostly about Israel's deeds in Palestine... Which is bad, but I'm not sure it's right to call violations outside of Israel's borders "apartheid". "Brutal occupation" seems more fitting and less confusng
This word you keep dropping every other sentence doesn't really mean what you're implying it means, as much as Israeli lobbies want to shove that concept down our throats.
And this, America, is why you want more than two parties; if the two most popular ones piss you off, you can vote for someone else to send a message, and unlike the horrendous electoral college, with a parliamentary system, your vote actually counts!
America has a primary system, Britain doesn't.
They are two very fundamentally different systems.
In this case, the worker party guy would run in the democratic primary like Bernie Sanders did
this is modern day politics in a nutshell. when the traditional politicians are either sleazebags, grossly incompetent, or corrupt, the only ones left are the nutters
MPs should be local to the area and have to prove a connection such as study/living/working/family for at least 3 years to be allowed to run to keep roving loonies out.
rational is just what Billionaires want, everything else is "nutty"
@@jondonnelly4831
What do you have against the Monster Raving Loony Party?
I heard some people voted for them in this election as it was the only _sane_ choice!
🙂
@@LeafHuntress They're not crazy enough. Compared to the usual lot, they look quite average.
I may have my issues with Galloway but having someone like him in parliament to voice concerns over the West being complicit in genocide is much needed.
😂 how? His genocide denial in Syria speaks volumes . He's a clown
I completely agree. I want Galloway in parliament and I want Farage in parliament because they will give the government a hard time.
No, he’s a murderous antisemite. Should be in jail not Parliament
i said i have my issues with him@@TheIrishLad06
farage is a cok@@chesterdonnelly1212
Sunak the PM who nobody elected in his teeny tiny suits needs to resign. Unfortunately you wauld need honour to do this.
Just for context, the reason why the 2019 tweet was considered antisemitic was because Liverpool were playing against Tottenham, a club with a large Jewish following, and therefore is antisemitic as Israel would not have been mentioned had it not been for the following. However, most of the other stuff seems fine.
It's interesting to me that Rochdale's Muslim population strongly supported someone who is unafraid to openly address the local grooming gang scandal. Because we're so often told that anger about it is just an Islamophobic dog-whistle. (And in fairness, sometimes it is.)
British discourse is poisoned by awful bigots saying that “you can’t complain about ISIS terrorists and groomers or you get called Islamophobic” - but that’s literally unironically what we do when it comes to criticising israel.
I mean I don't know the full context of the green candidate. But this really seems like what's happened.
1:57
To me this is a pretty common secular complaint about Abrahamic religions (dark mode tweet) and a comment in 2015 which is as close to to Palestinians voting for Hamas with their covenant of Islamic resistance explicitly seeking Israeli genocide (revised in 2017) than October 7.
Again, I don't have full context. But I wouldn't find it too controversial to complain about a population voting for explicit genocide (they're very graphic about that in the document) and the horrific roots of many religions ignoring the horrific events in Israel right now.
@@0xCAFEF00D nope.
That’s stuff that’s in the Quran. There’s stuff that’s just as bad, if not worse, in the Bible.
But more importantly it’s criticising the RELIGION and the PEOPLE - not the political stances of a country. He’s not there criticising say, Erdogan’s crackdown on same sex rights, he’s criticising all Muslims.
You're lying. I think we should be able to criticise Israel,too, but that is a foreign issue less important to Uk than the Islamist and grooming gang issues.
@@RedJadeArt In a democratic society (and the Palestinian election was damn near universally recognized as free and fair by a number of geopolitical sides) the people are accountable for the government. It's completely absurd that you suggest you can have a people that chooses a leadership and then can clean their hands of any actions. And Hamas won an outright majority. I certainly don't let Israelis wash their hands like that. Especially the Israeli far right.
Also, the Bible. Yes. I said Abrahamic religions. That means Judaism, Christianity and Islam. He's criticizing the work ("The Koran") in the first tweet and Palestinian peoples desire for genocide in the second (inferred through some means, the charter being how I'd expect that inference).
@@napoleonfeanor genocide using British weapons and British money and Britain’s explicit support is a British issue.
it's actually not anti-semitic to be against the waving of the flag of a genocidal military outpost of western imperialism
This is exactly what should happen everywhere. The vast majority of people are not happy with the 2 main parties.
People should go out and vote someone else, anyone else to reflect that!
People need to stop flip flopping between Tory & Labour. Neither have been any good for the average person.
Does anyone know much about David Tully's campaign?
2:15. Danczuk is pronounced "Dan-chook" because it's a polish surname
Ironic a reform candidate is from a community most of their voters despise
This report is full of lies & misinformation. Ali didn't make those comments, he repeated what the Egyptians said & genocidal Starmer didn't drop him the next day. He waited till he knew that he didn't have a chance to win.
so stupid. @2:10. its not anti semitic to critisize Netanyahu or Israel. people who think that way are one of the main reasons no solution will ever happen in that region because if you cant critisize one of the main players in the situation than they will never change.
Was any of that anti-semetic?
Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of our two party system
Yeah, but a plausible version of that is the end of the system altogether. And people will regret that very, very quickly, if history is anything to go by.
@@yuchoobwhy?
Would I want Galloway as PM? No! Would I vote for him in this situation? Yes! It sends a clear message...
imagine losing votes for saying something about a conflict when you're trying to represent a part of a council in a country thats 1000s miles away from any conflict.
Over 80% of the electorate did NOT vote for Galloway.
Ok, but can someone fix the pothole in my road and give me a GP appointment with a real doctor?
No, that's not possible. Our country will continue to crumble whist paying deference to foreign nations.
*Benny Hill theme plays across all of Rochdale during the election*
The best thing about this result? I've now learned there is a party called the Monster Raving Loony Party!
6:47 Amazing result when looking at the graph; Galloway, Tully and Other are trending.
2:05
Being factual is not Islamophobia
I’m sorry it’s genuinely awful that this video accepts the narrative that being anti-Israel is in any way anti-Semitic
That tweet isn't anti-semitic mate
Think most of us are fed up with labor and Tory policies it's not what we asked for
I’m not being funny though either would be better than a Galloway led party this man would turn this country into a Islamist dictatorship with Russian undertones
I always find it crazy that countries like the UK, Canada, USA still use First-Past-The-Post voting, so a candidate can somehow get elected with 30ish% support. A system like Preferential Voting/Alternate Voting means a candidate needs to ensure they collect a voters lower preferences to get elected.
They tried to switch to alternative vote, the voters voted no
Yes fptp is a mockery of democracy
Critiquing the Israeli far-right state is not anti-Semitic in any way, shape, or form. We need to put a stop to that nonsense right away.
As a Frenchman, I want to thank the Rochdaleous constituants for electing such a courageous man !
The one how support has?
I guess you would think differently if the ones that died in oct 7 were French