Military Stealth Camping Von Reck Shelter Mod w USGI Shelter Half Plash Palatka

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @lightfighterstudiesgroup2012
    @lightfighterstudiesgroup2012 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for recording this, and for spreading the Von Reck shelter gospel!
    Now that other warriors are discovering and recording our shelter system, it’s time we explain the history on this. (We are the young warriors in the pictures you used.)
    We started using the Von Reck shelter back in the mid 2000s. In fact most of the pictures on the internet includes us first documenting field use is from our Eastward days, including those in this video.
    Mind you this shelter idea is US Army old (mid WWII), and goes even back in concept to the napoleanic days.
    The name comes from us, specifically from our mentor Alan Swayze (Rodesian Bush war Afrikaner) referencing Philipp Georg Friedrich von Reck works in the colony of Georgia.
    We are the first to coin a name, and to credit Von Reck with its documentation of the USGI shelter half lean-to style shelter with a fire hole in the Americas.
    We took the idea of the 4 walled shelter half US army configuration from late WWII and combined it with the fire hole (now referred to as Dakota fire pit) based on Von Recks drawings.
    We study historical source documents, conduct research experiment and develop material and non material solutions to improve light infantry skills and finally -we started Lightfighter studies group to keep the field craft knowledge alive.
    We are appreciative of everyone who tries it out as this has given our group many years of camaraderie in harsh weather conditions.

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад

      Awesome. Thanks very much for sharing your story. I was not able to find out much about the history of the shelter when I was researching for this video. Really glad you found it. ATVB

  • @irmuggle
    @irmuggle 2 года назад +3

    We used to kind of do that boy scouts with Baker's tents get four of them like that and then we had the front flaps pulled across each other that way you had a big giant roof

  • @krushvor2774
    @krushvor2774 2 года назад +2

    In Germany we have a similar configuration, but instead for four shelter halves, we use six to build a complete closed and wheaterproof shelter for up to six soldiers. When you use it with only three people, you could even build a fireplace inside. Great Video by the way, i really love your content!

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Thank you very much. That sounds like quite an impressive shelter. Cheers

  • @BushcraftAdventure
    @BushcraftAdventure 2 года назад +2

    ↟↟I didn't even suspect that such a shelter existed..🤔 Always glad to learn something new👍🏻
    Thank You Jess & take care🏕️🔥

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Alex! I saw a picture last year, but haven’t been able to find much information on it. It is made for 6 people, so I think 4 slept, with 2 on guard.
      Have a good one!

  • @paul5403
    @paul5403 2 года назад +3

    Do an overnighter in it and have a fire to test how much it conceals the light given off . Great video .

    • @lightfighterstudiesgroup2012
      @lightfighterstudiesgroup2012 2 года назад

      The pictures he included are from a field exercise of purse back in 2008-9 time frame.
      It was below freezing and November in Missouri during deer season(which is why we have our orange vis-17 panels on our rucks.
      We have tested this done single digit negative temps to good effect.
      One of our guys can be seen in the pictures with just a USGi poncho liner only for the night and was nice and warm. This was around 20F.
      If you do the fire pit correctly and keep the fire watch going you can super heat the ground below all the sleepers and you only need a small blanket.
      If you keep the fire low I would bring a full sleeping system based on the weather that you would normal carry. The hotter you can get the fire the lower you can go with less obviously.

  • @jeffrichards5106
    @jeffrichards5106 2 года назад +2

    Hi Jess, never seen that configuration before. That's awesome. I have a GI pup tent, all I need now is to get a plash palatka. Great video. Thanks!

  • @romantaylor1854
    @romantaylor1854 2 года назад +2

    Just found the channel and I am loving it, short form content that gets straight to the point and delivers the information as concisely as possible.

  • @1STINLLC
    @1STINLLC 2 года назад +2

    Sawing technique behind the knee. Learned something new👍

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Nice! That is called a plumbers vice and is meant to allow safe cutting. Takes a little getting used to, but well worth it.

    • @1STINLLC
      @1STINLLC 2 года назад

      @@EnduranceRoom awesome thanks for the explanation! Definitely will start trying this out.

  • @TheWtfnonamez
    @TheWtfnonamez 2 года назад +2

    I really appreciate you examining this old kit.
    A lot of modern camping and bushcraft equipment is "fashionable" and not necessarily "good". Some of the traditional kit is timeless design but unfashionable.. Its hard figuring out what is popular because of advertising and what is popular because of nostalgia. Its nice having someone check it out first hand. I just camped for the first time with a retro Finnish/Romanian design military surplus Trangia mess set. It was enormous, but overall very light because its mostly aluminium. Vastly superior to a lot of modern cook sets, but I guess that's why the design remained roughly the same for over 100 years.

  • @journeyman7189
    @journeyman7189 2 года назад +2

    Very cool Jess. I've never heard it called this before. Seems tailer made for even a wood stove right up the middle.
    Nate

  • @jeepnicc
    @jeepnicc 2 года назад +1

    Hey bro... I would've loaned you two more shelter halves if you would've asked!! Awesome vid brother thanks for sharing!!

  • @EnduranceRoom
    @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +8

    Thanks for watching everyone.
    Anyone know which manual this is from? Have you used one of these yourself?

    • @johndoogan3712
      @johndoogan3712 2 года назад

      Hi, I've seen someone on here who erected a four man shelter with four German flecktarn shelter halves so others are no doubt aware of the idea.
      The one shelter half and plash palatka or poncho certainly makes a good shelter. A suggestion is for an extra tarp, even a lightweight one will do to put a roof over the open area in bad weather, a charcoal fuelled hobo stove or a few candle lanterns/hurricane lamps could provide some heat but the watchword here is ventilation.
      This is something a team may have to try and pass on their experiences.

    • @Canadian_Craftsman
      @Canadian_Craftsman 2 года назад

      Bushcraft Buddy is a German RUclips channel they use the flecktarn pup tent and make a huge verity of shelters check them out Jess!!😁✌️💚✊️🔥

    • @MrSheckstr
      @MrSheckstr 2 года назад

      I’ve seen this setup before , once in basic training as a Sunday afternoon creativity exercise. Our drill Sargent took the platoon to the dirt floored shed by the exercise area and running track and had us set up several variants using shelter halves , I’m thinking one used six section with two section stacked atop this to create a structure that could shelter more than 6 soldiers inside , using three 1/2s to make a triangle shelter under the cover of a pine tree, how to add a ridge pole to a shelter, how to take a third shelter half and use it as a insulated ground cloth, or to double it up on the windward side of the shelter and use the third set of poles to brace the center , even how to use the poles and shelter half to cover one’s cot when in one of the barracks tents

  • @pobo6113
    @pobo6113 2 года назад +4

    I love this idea. Being a single female I want privacy to change clothes and be away from others. This gives me that without having to put up a tent, and still have the open center. 👍

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Nice! Should be able to adapt the concept to a variety of tarps or shelters.

  • @81dedhed
    @81dedhed 2 года назад

    Love to see you do an overnighter in this set up. Thatd be awesome

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад

      Thanks, I will when I am able. Cheers

  • @Stoney_AKA_James
    @Stoney_AKA_James 2 года назад +2

    Interesting shelter concept Jess - first time seeing that.
    I'm not a fan of canvas due to it's bulk and weight, but can see rectangular tarps could being used as well.

    • @BenLJudy
      @BenLJudy 2 года назад

      The palatka is fairly easy to carry if things are gonna be cold. Plash palatka translates to "cloak tent" for a reason.

  • @johnburgin7478
    @johnburgin7478 2 года назад +1

    Good evening brother . You snuck this one in right when I was starting to pour epoxy this morning. I like the concept. Wouldn’t use it for stealth in the woods . Fire or flashlights illuminate tree limbs overhead quite a bit . Used to sit in my tree stand in the National Forest and watch guys coming in my direction from different angles . Even shining the ground they made halo’s. Hot tent stove in the middle would be great for camping. High and deep . Have a great evening my friend

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Thanks brother. Yeah, any overhead view wouldn’t be good. I feel like the intent was to be able to use it to avoid exposure at night from foot patrols. It is listed as a 6 man shelter, which probably means 4 slept, 2 watched. Can’t find much info on it. Working on the height and depth.
      Have a good one 🤝

  • @krishoogstraat6866
    @krishoogstraat6866 2 года назад +1

    This is freaking awesome! Jess way to adapt and overcome for 2. What a great shelter.

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Kris!! It is pretty fun to setup. Fire pit on the inside would be really cool.

  • @haggis525
    @haggis525 2 года назад +1

    Very nice! Something I've not seen or heard of before today. With that - a new sub! I'll be watching to see if I can pick up even more new ideas. Thanks!

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад

      Thank you! Welcome to the channel.
      Jess

  • @thomasmusso1147
    @thomasmusso1147 2 года назад

    Hi Jess ..
    👍 .. interesting, with lots of room for variations 😊.
    We never had 'shelter halves' .. only vehicle-transported canvas pup tents for semi-permanent base setups. Otherwise we teamed up 'buddy-buddy' using our ponchos. The closest thing to a fire out in the bush was an Esbit Folding Stove and Tablets. Many guys didn't even take with their Esbit Folder on Patrol. A hole in the sand was good enough.
    Another good one Jess .. thanks for sharing. Take care .. Tommy

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Tommy! It was fun to mess around with. I would like to set it up again or something similar to experiment with a fire.
      That is interesting to hear about your experiences. Makes sense, no fires, ponchos, cooking in the ground. What kind of ponchos were you using? The ponchos were joined together for shelters?

    • @thomasmusso1147
      @thomasmusso1147 2 года назад

      @@EnduranceRoom 👍 a fire in the centre should be interesting .. especially as to how visible one would be in differing terrain and light conditions. Of course in true Stealth, fires after dark would not be advisable unless absolutely necessary.
      Ponchos? Back in the late 60's up into the 80's ours (SADF / South African Defence Force Standard Issue) were very similar to others elsewhere. They clipped shut using heavy duty 'press studs' and had grommets at the corners and yes, as such could be joined together. Much of our kit was based on 'NATO' / British Standard .. webbing very much the British 1958 Pattern with Water Bottles from the early-70's based on the US GI Plastic Canteen and SS Mug (the mug was known as a 'Fire Bucket' in the SADF). I still have, and use one. I've just added an after-market SS Lid and the Kidney-Shaped Aluminium Mug Holder, used when cooking .. the one that slots over the Canteen Cup / Mug for storage in the Web Pouch.
      Just for interest, the Canteens (we termed them 'water bottles') and Cups we were issued in '68 were horrible. An Aluminium Bottle with a Plastic Top Housing. The accompanying Mug was made of Plastic and had Butterfly Handles. An absolutely useless and disgusting item that stank of whatever had ever been in it previously and could not be used to boil water or cook in. We had to use our rectangular 'Dixies' (Mess Kits) for that purpose. Later in the 70's, sanity prevailed and they were replaced with the Plastic Bottle and SS Mug.
      Incidentally, I still have and use my 'Esbit' Folding Cooker issued to me in 1968. I keep a pack of the Esbit Solid Fuel Tablets stored in the Stove for 'just-in-case but use Alcohol or Gel Fuel in little homemade burners as it is cheaper and easier to source than the Esbits.
      There Jess .. you asked about a Poncho and ended up with an essay 🙄 😁.

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад

      @@thomasmusso1147 Thanks very much, Tommy. Appreciate it. Have a good one my friend. 🤝

    • @thomasmusso1147
      @thomasmusso1147 2 года назад

      @@EnduranceRoom 👍

  • @aribavel2757
    @aribavel2757 2 года назад +1

    Cool concept! Great episode!

  • @herbsmith6871
    @herbsmith6871 2 года назад +1

    Very cool Jess 🤠

  • @treksntarps
    @treksntarps 2 года назад +1

    Like the look of that idea. . Imagine being in there with a fire . Toasty . Take it easy bud 👍

  • @J0MBi
    @J0MBi Год назад

    Another good video on your channel, I've got 2 sets of shelter halves and been interested in trying the 4 half set up.

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  Год назад +1

      Thank you. Bushcraft Buddy has done some interesting setups with shelter halves along these lines.

  • @Nunya_Binness
    @Nunya_Binness 2 года назад +1

    Cool concept!

  • @andrejmucic5003
    @andrejmucic5003 2 года назад

    you're full of great ideas

  • @arsumbris6392
    @arsumbris6392 2 года назад

    If you don't have enough material for 4 sides, you can also dig a two opening hole to keep your fire concealed (the fire itself goes in the hole, obvs).

  • @JJ-JOHNSON
    @JJ-JOHNSON 2 года назад

    love it, thanks Jess.

  • @tjfm59
    @tjfm59 2 года назад

    decades ago my best friends brother did this shelter for the boyscout camp trip he was on. he also added a roof using a gi poncho. neede four or five pole sections place in the poncho hood to get this up an not leak. would like to see this in a short video.

  • @MichaelR58
    @MichaelR58 2 года назад +1

    Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !

  • @Canadian_Craftsman
    @Canadian_Craftsman 2 года назад +1

    The German flecktarn are my absolute favorite canvas out there much like the US style still haven't put my zipps on the side like a mini baker tent but will do soon I hope!!😁✌️💚✊️🔥

    • @couchcamperTM
      @couchcamperTM 2 года назад

      as a German i prefer the US halves, they are actually big enough to be worth the weight.

    • @Canadian_Craftsman
      @Canadian_Craftsman 2 года назад

      @@couchcamperTM definitely depends on the environment is a big factor

    • @couchcamperTM
      @couchcamperTM 2 года назад

      ​@@Canadian_Craftsman I would not overestimate the Flecktarn pattern, the US halves can be hidden just as well. If you really mean it, you will always have to use plant material from the environment you're in. And if it's just to break the contours. Flecktarn is okay in the fall, low to the ground, and that's it. In the summer, when everything is lush and green, I still need some natural camouflage or I stand out like a sore thumb. In Germany, where Flecktarn is made for, it only works for two or three months in a year without a lot of additional effort. Same goes for the US halves, but they offer much more space.

  • @frh-freerangehuman
    @frh-freerangehuman 2 года назад +1

    Great job!

  • @modemode3663
    @modemode3663 2 года назад +1

    Great video. What kind of knife we you cuting that sapling with?🤘

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      It is the Diablochete from Wilson Custom Knives. Did a video on it a couple weeks ago.

  • @ТУРИСТ-АВАНТЮРИСТ
    @ТУРИСТ-АВАНТЮРИСТ 2 года назад +2

    Great job. Deservedly.

  • @manuelacevedo7504
    @manuelacevedo7504 2 года назад +1

    A that a go ideal i have 31/2 pop tent set old military itomes..thank jess

  • @borntoolate1282
    @borntoolate1282 2 года назад +1

    👍🏻👍🏻

  • @brownbeaner8005
    @brownbeaner8005 2 года назад

    Hey endurance room could you do an overnighter with a haversack and bedroll, like the soldiers in the American civil war did?

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Hey man! I will keep it in mind. Time is a little thin right now for the woods. Maybe in a couple months.

  • @EnduranceRoom
    @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад

    It seems that this concept could be adapted to other shelter systems, tarps, etc.

    • @alexandergutfeldt1144
      @alexandergutfeldt1144 2 года назад

      Thanks for showing us! Will you be testing it out once the temperatures go down a it?
      I seem to remember Martin from the "Bushcraft Buddy" channel used German BW Zeltbahnen to build a shelter using this concept.
      Later: found it! look for "Heated Bundeswehr Zeltbahn Snow Storm Bunker" here pn YT. AFAIR it's an ASMR video with some English 'sub titles'.

  • @stamm2366
    @stamm2366 2 года назад +1

    Jo question: waht kind of animales are in your area, and how to use them (like, do you have some canada traditional foods from your area, Bear stou or something ? ) I saw you have a gun with you some times . is that for defense or for hunting ? . In Germany the most dangerous thing is wild boar but we also have the return of the wolfe and we have emus now, that big birds from south america. So thees Animales can be quiet dangerous in Germany and of cource dogs. I stayed in Quebeck for almost a year, we had black bear but the dogs in the woods from the farms were the biggest danger in the area, how about your place ?

    • @couchcamperTM
      @couchcamperTM 2 года назад +2

      Falsch^^ the most dangerous animals in German forests are ticks and mice, pigs and wolves usually leave us alone unless we walk right into them. make some noise and that won't happen. Dogs are indeed more of a hassle. fun fact: we once did get run over by a deer... big surprise for us and him 😀

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +3

      There are black bear here that can be problematic. We were raided by one a couple years ago in the middle of the night on a 3 day trip. Bastard got all our food 😂 I had hung it up, and it didn’t matter. I haven’t had any problems with them here, but from what I have heard, the state removes problem bears from other areas and brings them here.
      There are large packs of coyotes.
      Wolves and coy wolves, as well as mountain lion (all of which aren’t supposed to be here).
      There are also other things that aren’t supposed to exist “officially” walking around. I have had some very... interesting nights in the woods.

    • @stamm2366
      @stamm2366 2 года назад

      @@EnduranceRoom Man, that sounds like Jurassic Park. I would take a gun and a MK-Ultra Pitbull- Hamser with me , just to stay on the save side.

    • @couchcamperTM
      @couchcamperTM 2 года назад

      @@EnduranceRoom those other things probably think you are one of them, strong man ;-)

  • @noshame7472
    @noshame7472 Год назад

    Hi I was wondering. I've got two pup tents German and US could I make the shelter square with these there would be four parts.? Also where would be the in and out of the four half's and what would this look like?

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  Год назад +1

      Yes, that should work. The doorways would be each of the corners were the the triangular end flaps meet. They may fit together or may have to be overlapped. Have to play around with it and see. Should be cool though.

  • @antonwearsakilt5209
    @antonwearsakilt5209 2 года назад

    Interesting concept. Not sure it's practical for just a couple of guys.
    3 or more maybe.
    As for stealth? Perhaps, but only marginally. A coyote hole fire would be a better option for a fire, if at all.
    This is why flameless ration heaters are in mre's. To conceal one's position. Even a cigarette can be seen from 2000 meters at night.
    That said this tent setup would be great for a semi permanent base, not sure if it would be practical to have to it take down, hike x amount of miles, then reset this contraption.
    However I could be wrong.

    • @EnduranceRoom
      @EnduranceRoom  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, it would take some work dialing it in to make it practical. 4 guys each carrying a half and knowing how to put it up could be done pretty efficiently. It is listed as a 6 man shelter, so I think 4 would sleep, 2 on watch. The fire setup
      would be some kind of pit fire. Would be cool to vent a dakota hole into the shelter.

    • @antonwearsakilt5209
      @antonwearsakilt5209 2 года назад

      @@EnduranceRoom This is true, it could be done, efficient as well. However with thermals ir etc being underground in a hidey hole might be better.
      I don't know, I do know it's gonna suck if it gets to that.

  • @ronnyhuysmans4120
    @ronnyhuysmans4120 2 года назад +1

    :)

  • @trevorutley932
    @trevorutley932 2 года назад +1

    1st

  • @teeeff5179
    @teeeff5179 2 года назад +1

    cool idea, thanks for sharing. also, nice knife (the big boy). may i ask, what is it? i recently had a parang style blade made for me and i'm surprised how versatile a big blade like that can be: part knife, part machete, part axe, does well as a makeshift drawknife too if needs be. curious about yours. ... oh! should have checked your back list: Diablochete. off to watch that one now. 👍✌🖖