PHILOSOPHY - Plato
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- Plato was one of the world's earliest and possibly greatest philosophers. He matters because of his devotion to making humanity more fulfilled.
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The more I seem to understand, the more I see the wrongs with the world.
John Doe with every step towards knowledge, the harsh light beyond the cave becomes much, much more brilliant.
John Doe exactly my thoughts!
ShiftyMcGoggles Is that a reference to Plato's "Allegory of the Cave"?
Cian Rivera
yes
Incredible.
Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise, so I am changing myself.
- Rumi
Awesome
You cannot do one without the other
Nobody lives in "The World". Therefore you have to change "Your World" not "The World"!
I wonder how many people will understand my comment
@@XandiXDs What's the difference?
@@XandiXDs Philosophy is about clarifying words.
It's actually freaking crazy how relevant his thoughts and ideas are today, 2500 years later.
we're humans after all, our nature doesn't seem to change.
People then didn't see or didn't want to see the flaws of democracy, regardless of warnings (this is a constant phenomenon when it comes to humans and happens regarding almost anything we do), so now we are down in the rabbit hole and people still won't listen, devilish little cycle. In my opinion, we need a devastation so we can rebuild hopefully with much more philosophers, or people who can and will think rationally.
Human nature has largely stayed the same
@@FirstOfTheMagi yep, spot on
and they will be relevant to the end of the world, because humans dont change. they would cease to be relevant to a non human society, like ants society, or wolves society
"the problems is, popular opinions edge us towards the wrong values, careers and relationships".
@april 's very true
But it might be worth it if your end goal is more happiness which might come from fitting in societal expectations. Sometimes the blue pill could be right. Depends what you want and expect out of it. Just like in the story "brave new world"
Yeah
I'm Brazilian, I can help you in Portuguese, and you help me in English.
Wrong values wouldn’t exist without popular opinions. A negative can’t exist without a positive. So which one is really wrong? Everything just is.
dead for 2500 years and still teach you a lesson
Not just a lesson, a *lesson of life*, and everything it has.
NightHoundd, technically he doesn't teach you lessons, rather his teachings have stood the test of time, they are valuable, and intelligent people have decided to show the rest of the world.
Although I guess that's what you meant.
Imma teach you a lesson... taken a step up haha
He is not dead 😎😀
Platoon number is growing MAGA
imagine if Plato saw nowadays' celebrities...he would drop dead on the spot from heart attack.
Definitely... and not just the celebrities, but the people that idolize them. Doxa.
He would drop dead seeing a car or airplane or a phone 😂
They are saying he'd be ashamed of what happened to people and society
😂😂😋
@@deborahpumulo7267 what is there to laugh, our society is dead sick.
1 - Think More
2 - Let your lover change you
3 - Decode the message of beauty
4 - Reform society
you tried helping but philosophy doesn't work like that
@@jinxy7869 why are you attacking a man who comprehensively summarized the video for you?
@@abdihassan7208 because he's not a philosopher
RUclips comment section was not particularly designed for keeping lecture notes
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Plato: Our society's rolemodels should be wise and good people.
Our society:
Lol ikr
@Lel E
Narendra Modi is a liar too.
@Lel E
In India, we are having a elected fascist autocracy.
@Lel E what is the RSS?
@@amanialsoquar5073
RSS stands for Rashtriya Swaymasevak Sangh.
*It is Hindu extremist group who spreads ideology of Hindutva.*
Philosophy is the most fascinating subject.
Obsolutely
Yes. It is the father of an unruly, spoiled rotten child called "religion."
also the most useless and pointless discussion
@@shanshan8827 You must be a big sports talk radio fan.
@@shanshan8827 lmao why are you even on this video 😂 i love how much effort yall put
you saved me from failing my political philosophy class. i was literally crying the night before my exam because nothing was going into my brain when i found you guys' channel, and binge watched everything until 3am. the animation really helped me remember the information since i am an extremely visual learner. read through my own notes multiple times on the bus ride to school, went into my 9am exam the same morning and passed with flying colours. thank you school of life.
that's awesome!!
You may have passed your exam, but you failed the test.
@@atlasfeynman1039 ok boomer school is about passing these days
@@gmc1413 Those who think school is about passing are destined for mediocrity. An average uninspired mind can remember facts for a few weeks enough to pass an exam, but it is only after you graduate that you will realize you have learned nothing.
Plato would call you a working class slave, destined to serve greater men like Auxiliaries and Philosopher Kings who actually love wisdom and knowledge and take the time and put in the effort to read and understand the lessons of the past and take that knowledge into the future.
You would not have the right to vote in Plato's Republic, but you probably wouldn't care because you don't really understand the point of that anyways, having never had a desire to learn, nor attended any free lectures because it seemed like too much of a chore, instead of the yearning for wisdom and knowledge that it should be.
You pass the exam, but fail the test, because the real lesson from Plato is:
"The unexamined life is not worth living"
@@atlasfeynman1039 y u so bitter
philosophy is so interesting to me and I wish I had someone in my life who I could have a deep conversation with about it. I just want an intellectual conversation with someone who’s just as passionate as I am
edit: I don’t know if anyone will see this but I’d like to thank everyone for all of the replies you have given me
Me too
check out mbti personality test. intuitive and thinker are the best when it come to these matter if you want to have a conversation. especially INTP sub reddit. because Socrates is also an INTP
kkochismile I’m here if you need me then
Write a book
u can talk to me tho
" It really matters who we admire, because they influence our outlook, ideas and bad conduct. And bad heroes give glamour to flaws of character "
I fucking love this.
I still like Socrates more. He was a stubborn old jerk who literally killed himself to make a point.
+Sardonicous1 his point on life and philosophy , would have never been 'made' if he haven't died.... think about that.... lol
What was the point?
+cocoarecords At his trial (for corrupting the youth and not honoring the gods) he didn't resort to sophistry, even though doing so probably would have mitigated his sentence to banishment. He basically said "I'm old and gunna die soon anyway, so allow me to carefully explain how wrong you all are."
Even in the brief time before he drank the poison, his friends pleaded with him to escape. While he could have bribed his way out and gotten away, he chose to go through with the execution and was pretty damn jovial about it.
Basically, the "point" was his philosophy in general. By handling his trial and execution the way he did, he pretty much ensured that everything he taught would live on untarnished. He was the master of sticking to his guns.
+Sardonicous1 stick to your guns - socrates lmfao
+cocoarecords
To live by your own morals. Because even if it leads to your death you are still the winner.
It's really amazing how little society has changed since Ancient fucking Greece.
+Kira1Lawliet Nothing is new under the sun, all things continue as in times of old
+Kira1Lawliet But that's the thing - it did change. It got worse. In technology, we matched the Greeks and Romans in about the 1800s. In political, social and philosophical advancement we are in many ways behind them. Some things are better - healthcare, for example (In Britain anyway). But many ways we equal them at our very best and fall far short at our average.
Some people don't have slaves. Some woman have rights. Unfortunately there are still far too many places in the world where both of your statements do not apply.
My sister was doing research on slaves, and apparently a slave in I think the 17th or 18 century cost the equivalent of $40,000 dollars. However now the average slave costs only $90.
Robert Afoa I agree with you in some ways, but I don't really think that it is the best in terms of opportunity - it's just advertised to look that way. The lower jobs in society may have gotten better (i.e. office jobs rather than manual labour) but the pay gap between rich and poor is bigger than it has ever been(In Britain anyway). The world is described as meritocratic, but I really don't think it's all that good at being fair.
Plato's favorite words of wisdom are
"We become what we contemplate"
Similar to when Marcus Aurelius said your soul takes on the color of your thoughts
Thank you. Two great comments, both had me lost in thought…
We become products of our surroundings
everything he said is soo damn true how can someone be so accurate, soo intelligent in understanding human behaviour, not even modern philosophers are this good.
exept the part where we are "educating our souls" like what? souls? I get it was back in the day so they were still dumb
@@virtualvegan7376 Yea, you have a higher level of intelligence than Plato did. Well done.
@@virtualvegan7376 it's a metaphor. though, i don't expect you'd understand that, you're a vegan, after all🤡🤡
@@omnizafkiel Why don't yo explain the metaphor instead of just asserting it as truth then wise ass? Also why the random insults? What a great person you must be !🤡🤡🤡
fucking clown
Thank you for educating the world for free!
Its more costly to be ignorant
free?
youtube doesn't give this chanel money ?or what
@@danya8433 well, for us it is free 😊 we don't pay any money to watch these videos 😉
@@eliskahouskova4219 we pay with our time when we watch the ads.
dipro001 this is the distribution of information , education is the study and development . Which we must do as individuals .
Notes
00:30 Udaimomia - Fulfilment.
Ideas
1:00 Think more. Against following emotion and popular opinion.
2:05 Let your lover change you. True love is admiration.
3:10 Decode nature of beauty.
4:05 Reform society. Role models and guardians. Democracy for thinkers.
Thank you
Thank you
brilliant thank you
The more I learn the more I become aware of how less I know.
Same bruh.after reading comments I feel like l know nothing.
The more I learn the more I learn
Yeah that's called the knowledge curve
@@itsDhiran Thanks
that's absolutely true, now im having thoughts on how these are so relevant to what society views are in the present.
What a great and wise human being... Don't mind me, I'm just an obsessed fan on the internet...
Sup, Plato.
+3ZX8Ball How's it going?
Plato Good, man. Just wanted to inform you that the world is fucked up, but, I assume you already know that. Say hi to Aristotle from me.
***** Idk, me and him are in a bit of a dispute right now...
Plato Oh, sorry, didn't mean to bother you..
"know yourself"
"if you strengthen your self knowledge, you don't get so pulled around by feelings."
thanks a lot! this video gave me so much courage & motivation.
Shut the fuck up
@テイムレーシングドライバー yeah you shut up as well
LOL
@Amri Jahon because its funny as fuck bish!
Intellecualize emotions....and pratice stfu and get good at
Love this. Corona lockdown brought me here.
Me too
Good, I’m hoping corona brings a lot of people places they wouldn’t normally go, and we’d all be better for it.
Same lol it's such a good time right now tho to discover philosophy
same !
Me 2
How eagerly I want to bring people like Plato back from the dead, just to hear them speak...
www.amazon.com/dp/B09PLKNYVW
It's amazing how Plato's philosophy is so relevant to our modern society.
Yet after 2400 years we still couldn’t reach his standard of ideal society, and probably worsen. He would facepalm so hard at how our society had became. 😂
the ancient world (before the fall of the roman empire) was extremely developed in terms of knowledge and technology, unfortunately most of the knowledge was lost trough the dark ages thanks to the barbarians that really wanted to go into roman lands.
@Bruno56 yes they did horrible things, but thanks to them we have this world. if the roman empire continued for a little 200 years and someone gave interest in steam engine maybe now we would be in alpha centauri or at least on mars. think about it! genocides are bad, but in the long run if the people that get killed have a bad mentality and culture, it's worth it.
@Bruno56 Christianity killed 10 000 times more people then the Roman's or Greeks did combined.
@Bruno56 Never said you said Christianity is perfect. Learn to read. 😉
I love this video. But just platonically, of course.
I see what you did there. lol.
haha! I get it
platonically haha
uuh Plato was a bore, his teacher was a snide rat, both introduced decadence in Western culture. Fuck'em.
Platonically....that is good.
Unfortunatelly western rationalism doesn't deserve even that. When I read Aristotle's thought on women and Schopenhauer's "On women" I was done with WR. The only question I still keep is how pre Socrates philosophers know about atom and oneness of the Universe and who, why and how after all that amazing forgotten knowledge brought our world to such an nonspiritual perverse unethical place to be, where only wisdom is a spiritual free game of a rich white boys - philosophers :)
2500 years later, these men are still teaching us life lessons
That's how you know they were great
Cueball 69 what do you mean by ‘great’?
@@danielorozco937. Of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above average.
No that's how you know people haven't changed in 2500 years.
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I'm a inquisitive person, always have random stuff in my head. Today I learn what philosophy is. This is truly amazing.
My 2021 resolution is to learn more about philosophy. Hope I can learn more stuff.
Welcome in this complicated yet wonderful world!
Welp, what did you learn?
Honestly... I love videos like these for the comments under them. It's one of the few times you could say that about youtube videos. Enlightened, polite and apologetic if things get heated. Looking on some other "entertainment" or "brainless" videos there is nothing but hate, insecurity and bile going on. Refreshing to watch something so rich, and then to see the intelligence in the comment section just makes me happy.
Exactly.
+David Sirois so true. it shows the types of people who are interested in videos like this in the first place.
David Sirois Excellent said:)
where can i find this comment section you speak of?
I eat poop once, tasted like shit
I very much appreciate these videos.
***** same here, just stumbled upon them, and currently binge watching, keep em coming
***** No, thank YOU guys. I learned A LOT more about philosophy in a span of few hours than I could have in high school's four years.
Bónne B that's true, having these easily digestible versions is very encouraging.
Bónne B I just listen to these videos on the long drives between my apartment and my hometown.
+shishiromura This is just what i was gonna comment down :)
I’m going through a very rough time with a girl. It’s on the edge and I’ve lost my confidence as a man. I don’t know where to turn. But this popped up and I’ll take it as a sign. I will study Plato. And all other Greek philosophers to find my path.
Who else has watched The Good Place? I was just thinking that Chidi and Eleanor’s relationship is exactly Plato’s idea of letting your lover change you. Both characters made each other a better version of themselves. Chidi made Eleanor aware of her selfishness which caused her to change and Eleanor made Chidi aware of his indecisiveness which caused him to change. At the end of the series they were both better people than they started out as. I just think that it’s a really nice touch that the writers included this type of relationship as they discussed philosophy a lot in the show.
Is it a movie
Yassssssssssssssss!!i agree with u.
@@ashwiniakshay no it's a series on netflix
Its a pretty shitty show
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves philosophy. It's kind of sad that people call it useless (like going to school to study it) when it has so many great values and things we could learn. And it doesn't make it easier to like it when you're a teenager and God forbid you like anything different or intellectual. I've found my fellow nerds.
+Ash Trancy I know. When someone says philosophy is useless, it's usually because they don't really know what it is and what it has done. Everything one does is because of philosophy, everything we have done as a race is because of philosophy.
It's especially annoying when people question why you would take philosophy. There's more to life than just math and science, and quite frankly, I prefer the arts despite growing up in a rather science and math based household. When did education stop being about learning and more about practicality? I still love to learn the theory and thought more than how to apply it.
How the heck is philosophy useless. Philosophy is the questions you ask and explore to discover the things that are beyond simplicity and rules of math and science. Personally I love philosophy, it has to be the most fascinating subject (as well as art, I just love thinking about the stories and what the art says).
Ash Trancy people who says its useless can’ think for theirselfs
These are the videos that honestly show how great and powerful a tool RUclips can be.
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Plato...how we need you and your guidance more than ever right now. We would be fulfilled if our world lived by his philosophy. Democracy has not worked when can we say let's try something else. Companies rebrand and reinvent themselves all the time, is it time for us to do something different? I am tired of what is going on around the world, its depressing, exhausting, and I just want peace and happiness for everyone. I believe plato would have wanted that. Keep hope alive😊!
Philosophers of today have failed us - the top religions of the day are Communist, Corrupt religions OPENLY preaching Nazi ideas
Communist - the language communists use to describe their great, loving leader & they are so happy to live under him, the threats against others are similar to what these religions use
Corrupt - in real life if someone were to imply that you got your job not because of your hard work & qualifications, but because of your "relationship" with your boss, you would get upset and a fight might ensue
But that is the NORM in religion - Heaven cannot be Earned, the only way in is to hve a "relationship" with the top man
Nazi ideas - the Nazis made being a Jew a crime - didn't matter who they were as people, their beliefs sent them to gas chambers in hell
These religions also threaten others with the same dire consequences - "God" will reward "his" people and if you don't convert to theirs, you too will be set apart and dumped into gas chambers in hell
And they preach these ideas OPENLY!
So much for our intelligence and education and lofty morals of reading philosophy
@@ramaraksha01 I like you ♥ #preach
@@prydefitpire Thank you but why do I feel so lonely? It's not as if these are complicated ideas - not E=MC2
Simple ideas from simple primitive people - it makes sense that they would make God using the most powerful man of the day - the King - men who rewarded loyalty & obedience(belief). These were not democracies, a slave/subject may not serve two kings - if you are not loyal to the king(unbeliever) there is no place for you in his kingdom
Totally understandable if these were medieval times and we lived under Kings
Mind-boggling to think we are free people living in the 21st century!
@@ramaraksha01 communists? Who are these communists that dictate foreign policy, global culture and international law?
@@fullsend8738 IT'S CALLED READING AND COMPREHENDING WHAT IS WRITTEN! A LOST ART IT SEEMS
GOD, SAVE ME FROM STUPID PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO READ SIMPLE SENTENCES
**scrolls down**
**sees essays**
**scolls back up**
Essays, or a level of intelligence that you don't understand, yet?
Blenderman9000 same :^)
Email Reply no some people just don't have the time to sit around and read whole paragraphs of random strangers' midnight thoughts ;)
Blenderman Same.
They are both. What fails @Blenderman is the patience to absorb long-form intelligence as opposed to tweet-sized, incomplete pieces of knowledge...
Great lesson! Thank you!
Watching the part about the Socratic discussion I remembered an interview Rebecca Goldstein gave to Robert Pollie . She is the writer of the book: "Plato at the Googleplex: Why Philosophy Won’t Go Away". She said that Socrates believed in "lived conversation" for very profound reasons: One of the things we have to do in order to maximise our coherence is to see the "hidden assumptions" that are so deep down in our thinking. So deep down that they're invisible to us and the only way to bring them fore is in the argumentation. She said this must be the reason why Plato wrote Soctares' thoughts in form of dialogues.
May be there is one thing that bothered me a bit in the lesson. That thought about ugliness can be dangerous. Poor Elephant Man, Quasimodo, Cyrano de Bergerac... They were all very ugly at first sight but they were such beautiful people indeed...
And may be the last thought about the philosophers being the ideal leaders. I wish it was true... But as we know "the best and the brightest" created a lot of evil too, when they got into power. Well, but may be they were not philosophically well equipped. Outside of the academia I mean. In real life. Since there are many intellectuals who aren't wise at all.
Thanks a lot to everybody who work on these videos!
On your comment about the ugly actually being beautiful, it supports the necessity of seeing "hidden assumptions". Sometimes you need to dredge the depths of humanity itself to see the beauty beneath a facade of what many would call ugly, a presumption grounded in relative ignorance. Assume nothing, question everything - You should know who said this =]
Agurami Agbeyegbe Hi there! Thank you very much for your comment. Very good point and I do agree! Unfortunately I really don't know who said the famous sentence " assume nothing, question everything". I made a search in google, but it gives several results from Plato to Einstein. So I think I'll just keep in mind that you said it:-) Best wishes for the new year!
I think it's Plato because it's so in-line with his beliefs and, well...he came before Einstein and co.(foolproof logic XD). Happy Holidays to you too.
chudu papa.....best,ugly ,beautiful are nly the relative terms and cant be generalized....what world wants is brain not body ..from einstein to abdul kalam......from lincoln to obama all r weirdy ......
'intellectual yet idiotic' - nassim taleb
'the anointed ones' - thomas sowell
I'm waiting for the day this video gets a billion views. I would die in peace after that.
Hahaha
You still have about 94.4 more million to go🎉
Plato's wisdom still resonates through society nearly 2500 years later. Amazing how little times have changed. Technology and ideology might have changed, but the individual certainly has not.
Think more is probably the opposite to popular opinion these days. People seem to think that thinking more complicates things. However, the complication doesn't arise from thinking rather just letting your mind through whatever it receives from the external world and allowing the emotions those thoughts create to take a hold of you, in many ways the exact opposite of thinking consciously. Lovely watch!
People need to learn how not to identify with thought but rather observe the thought and let it go like a leaf flowing down a river. true story that.
This new crop of videos over the past couple of months has been brilliant. The investment of time and effort is unmistakably clear. Thank you for these - I find myself re-watching them several times.
My favorite philosopher of all time, and one of my favorite people in history.
S Darby Can you give an example of one of the most wise approaches he had to life? And did he say anything you disagree with?
Me - I want more knowledge in less time
The school of life - come with me❤️
Thankuuu
I have began to translate the english subtitles to Bulgarian, but my work has not been approved. There is no way i could assure you of the quality my deed provides, though given the nature of my exotic native language i doubt that someone more capable of harnesting the beauty of your words would appear.
I would love to proceed towards translating all of your videos and sharing them with my relatives and friends.
Daniel Belous This is a great idea. I have translated half of the philosophy videos, none of which was approved.
Do it anyway, maybe there's some technical issue, it's unlikely, that those guys do it on purpose.
+Любо Манолов Ve4e raboti! It works now: Settings - Caption - (arrow next to) English - Add Subtitles - (takes you to new page) - select language
+StereoD0se raboti, raboti, ama nishto ne se odobrqwa. zdrawe da e.
+Любо Манолов старателно
+Любо Манолов bravo. Shte stane
never in the history of mankind has so many been educated so quickly, thanks to the internet and sources of knowledge
2022 I am 17 and glad to know this great Person.The faster you learn the faster you can apply.
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We need 'A Plato' now..... A person with morals, boundaries, high, but attainable standards. Thinkers, as is pointed out... Nothing has changed since his era...It made me smile!! Thankyou for this wisdom and insight into a historic person of such great values... Oct. 2021.
How do I double like this video? Plato was awesome!
I think you just did.
Newton_SE You create another acount and you like this video from that one.
Newton Kelly just click like button twice
"It really matters who we admire because celebrities influence our outlook, ideas and conduct and bad heroes give glamour to flaws of character."
Know thy enemy?
Weed led me to Philosophy, it allowed me to think, Think about the new modern day society, the wrongs...the rights...and it was scary at first, I spent days just smoking n thinking.. I didn't understand what I was thinking...was it bad....was I weird....i studied what I was thinking....it was Philosophy...to think an unemployed highschool drop out had the same ideology as a Ancient Greek Philosopher.....and all it took was Observing...and listening....and Weed🌱.....
-Philosopher to other Philosophers....Enjoy life, I luv u guys
Its really beautiful that such people lived on our planet... Cant describe it really
im 18 and i believe one of the biggest flaws of our generation is making fun of the people trying to achieve platonic ''outopia'' ,or infact anything fundamentally different than what we are used to. as nietzsche quoted ''the surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.''
Agreed. I am 20..close enough to your age to be living through what you're describing lol. This certain uniqueness or individuality you hinted at is disappearing. It's either comform to the newest fad or rebel against it. The problem is the people rejecting the culture are overlooked and wrongly interpreted.
I agree, I'm 8
***** Ahead of me
theladiesman555
theladiesman555 i agree i am 18
I'm here taking notes lol
ur better off reading some philosophy books tho
Me too
arisoda But where to start?? 🤷♀️
SAD VIOLIN PRODUCTIONS not sure if it’s a good start but I started with Seneca on the shortness of life then letters from a stoic where he mentions a few other philosophers
@@sadviolinproductions391 Will Durant's The Story of Philosophy is a fascinating read that will give you succinct insights about the thoughts of some of the world's most influential western philosophers.
,,We find things beautiful when we unconscious sense the qualities we need but are missing in our lives".
Looking at the discussion in the comment section,I am proud that this channel succeeded.Keep it up people.
Plato must be proud of such a thing as the school of life :)
totally! actually, many philosophers would have lobed the idea of the inter, of how it spreads knowledge and information for everyone, and allows free speech and debate!
I don't think Plato would appreciate his life's work being dumbed down into a short videos for normies.
2400 years and we still can't fucking figure it out. What hope do we have.
+MrDacedric To be fair, we didn't really try much for a long while.
+MrDacedric manipulation of the human brain to make us smarter (;
Figure out what exactly? Plato had a legit hardon for tyrany... he would probably not admit it, but try reading some of his ideas and then compare them to ancient Sparta (which was an oligarchy, true, but the regime was so tought and unforgiving, that it was basically a tyrany)... And his ideas smell like a stew made from fascist socks (wouldnt be surprised if Hitler was a fan of Plato). His idea was to actually ban people who were ill of body and/or mind from proper treatment, to shun them fromt the society and to ultimately dispose of them (guess what that means). He also hated fun, meaning all forms of art, poetry mainly, were supposed to follow strict rules, including not ever using themes like crying, despair or too much pleasure. So god forbid if people were actually enjoying themselves... I wish people stopped putting him on such a piedestal, as he was just an old, self loving fart with no friends, or at least he presents himself like that...
That's very Stoic of you 🙃
I've read the republic until I got bored of it so I might be missing some crucial details but Plato wanted an epistocratic communism with common spouses and children. Basically, entire country becomes a single family and everybody does what suits their skills. His view on medicine is very outdated though. He claimed that it just prolongs the suffering of the sick.
"Celebrities influence our outlook, ideas and conduct and bad heroes give glamour to flaws of character"
Very good quote.
I think empathy should be the main engine in every aspect of our lives. I also believe that when the lessons that life provides us teach us something to be able to learn a little bit about ourselves, it is always good. I wish you all a beautiful and wonderful apprenticeship on the path of existence.❤
A very modern thinker, very interesting.
modern? this niga is older than some mountains lmao
They meant modern in that Plato's philosophy has aged very well, and is still very relevant and powerful today.
u had to be fking lucky to be the first one to choose that name, RICK
A very modern thinker?? Lol. A great thinker period.
He was ahead of his time
I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing.
Sador that is Socrates lol
@@felipegutierrez6878 No its not its sador
This video was ahead of its time.
Plato’s books need to be in schools and on every students desk.
Maybe I should watch this every morning with coffee! True love is admiration!
he be turning in his grave if he knew how the gov is now
How come?
+Rad Dudeman its corrupt and the masses are blind when the thinkers speak on it
'Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.'
The thing is that there is nothing we can do
Big Price
I know thats what everyone tells me :(
I really enjoy learning about Plato studied his teaching back in college and still some of the best lessons I have kept over the years.
"Kings must become philosophers or the philosophers kings" if only that statement somehow became famous and more important so much about our lives could have been different.
politics was almost always been a game of ignorant, lies and power. if only we could understood the importance of Plato's statement.
Mobin Shakeri wrong
Especially now. I couldn’t think of a more opposite reality to that quote than the one we’re in currently
Plato was an Idealist, a common philosophy today.
He heeds good messages for how to improve your life through education and rational thought that can often seem missing in modern idealism.
Idealism is optimistic in nature, but is not optimism. Many Idealists devote a lot of time to the more negative aspects of life, helping them to grow into their ideals of making themselves, their relationships or the world a better place.
This is necessary, for an Idealist to realize their ideals they must question+investigate what's needed for them and how or even if they can actually come together.
Here's a message from me to any Idealists out there:
The simplest things matter in making improvements, even if they aren't the ideal itself.
This last sentence is exactly the right thing in the right time for me. Thank you!
"Plato says: 'True love is admiration'. In other words, the person you need to get together with should have very good qualities which you yourself lack. By getting close to this person, you can become a little like they are. The right person for us helps us grow to our full potential. For Plato, in a good relationship, a couple shouldn't love each other exactly as they are right now. They should be committed to educating each other -- and to enduring the stormy passages this inevitably involves. Each person should want to seduce the other into becoming a better version of themselves." I love this. This is what I want in a relationship.
I remember this video was what started my journey of reading Philosophy books. And I know for a fact that I’m not in any sort of trouble because of it, that was around 6 years ago and this Channel helped in the process.
Thank you!!
Thank you for the picture of the bridge. It rarely happens that people make you aware of the fact that "technical" objects can be beautiful too, when they are well-made.
“The more you talk, the more things sound the same”
- En Vogue, ‘My Lovin’
This! This right here is why I miss the old days of school of life. It gave you the tools to start exploring life.
Philosophy is a valuable subject, it should be taught earlier in schooling worldwide.
just because it's valuable doesn't mean it deserves to be forcibly shoved down the throat's of kids who already waste most of their childhood learning completely impractical facts and trivia
@@tonyisnotdead Make it optional for the kids that want to learn it then
This series of videos is excellent. Thanks so much for bringing ancient philosophy to life!
Greetings from Greece!Γνώθι σ'αυτόν!
Are you Greek?
Νομίζω πως είναι... you saw what I did there🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Good
Where from Greece?
@@zarisbazikhe9396 who are you asking. Him or me. If you are asking me I am from the island of Lesbos
I've been searching and asking myself about what subject I love the most, and when I learned about this, at one glance, I knew this is the one.
this is absolutely beautiful it really spoke to me and almost shed a tear, definitely have to read more of his works!
For now I need to choose my way. Go to study philosophy or just get a calm job. I think if i choose to get a calm job, i will regret when i see any philosophy video or something other about the philosophy in my all life. So i think i will go to study philosophy and maybe just eat shit in my life after.
Thank this video to remind my heart again.
Plato was taking about relationships and how the one must admire the other while women wasn't even able to go out of the house yet. Just wow!
P.s. Greek guy here! So proud.
Great rendition. I am always fascinated by platoes philosophy.
I like rewatching this one
My only problem is with kindness comes lack of criticism. People won't learn from their mistakes if nobody is there to call them out.
their* and I disagree. Plato seemed like a guy who wanted what was best for everyone. It's very kind to dedicate your life to something like that. According to the video, he might say criticism is sometimes required for kindness.
But lots of people find criticism rude so his own plan would would reject his ideas.
I wonder how old you are. To generalize criticism itself or people's reaction to it doesn't really deserve a well thought out response in opposition. Be that as it may, criticism and kindness aren't mutually exclusive. I even said that in my last comment. Socrates died unyielding to the command to just let people be without his somewhat "insulting" insight. No one should be afraid of criticism itself and just because people don't like doesn't mean you can't give it unsolicited and courteously if you think it's something they should hear. Even if you're wrong it can start a discussion and those types of discussions have the potential to make people better. Execution of one's criticism is most widely the problem with people's acceptance of it. If they'd had the thought to criticize themselves they might not reject it but many do because they have such pride for themselves. It's all just something to think about. If I've criticized the presentation of your argument, it's in hopes that you improve your philosophical standing.
Trying to call someone out without without being rude is rude itself. people will get even more offended is you say "no offense but you stink" rather than just "you stink". It gives people the impression that you are trying to break them. If you actually want to tell someone about their faults then you should just be bland and not care about what they have to say. Instead of trying to build a school of kindness we should be building a school on how to accept criticism.
well, you see, for that, i like the analogy that personalityhackers gave in one of their podcasts; the difference between niceness and kindness. we should stop being nice; harmonizing with people, or harmonizing people together, usually by ignoring errors, until they become so much, they erupt.
we, rather, should be kind. meaning that we harmonize BY addressing issues, flaws and errors, in order to create a more sustainable harmony and goodness.
so yeah, your concern IS a legitimate one :)
Man was ahead of our time when coming up with self love
Philosophy can be the peace you didn't know you where looking for
Plato was a genius.. Unbelievable how one person can have so much reason and high levels of rationality
Love the concepts of reality, painful in delusions of programed thinking or thought fulfilled with Gratefulness & Pleasure just for the simple things like a rainbow, sunset or a full moon over the ocean of life. Its up to everyone. One big ocean of humans. :) Loved this mans books growing up, He made perfect sense. Think For Yourself. Take advise but think for Yourself. Peace, Love & Light!
Wow!! What a profound video. Thank you so much for enlightening us.
I think you can still love someone perfectly the way they are and watch them change at the same time.
M C Would Plato have disagreed with you?
Easily my favorite playlist/videos by this channel.
Tanmay brought me here . It's amazing. I love channels like these which are informative
I m in love with philosophy it's one of the subject which is full of curiosity and full of the thoughts the opinion, the method of perceiving knowledge ,
Love those videos. They help me now, when we have distance learning and they make me interested in philosophy. love them
00:30 Udaimomia - Fulfilment.
Ideas
1:00 Think more. Against following emotion and popular opinion.
2:05 Let your lover change you. True love is admiration.
3:10 Decode nature of beauty.
4:05 Reform society. Role models and guardians. Democracy for thinkers
“The world will not be right until Kings become Philosophers”
whoever promises the most wins - that's america and others
@@sinoroman that's basically every Republic and democracy in the world.
@Mino Threat Or, the world will not be right until kings becomes philosophers who think the way Plato thought (according to Plato, that is).
Cliff 🤦🏻♂️ exactly! Plato wanted people to think like him before being allowed to vote. That’s some crazy philosophy right there, I could apply this to my every day life and tell everyone they are wrong if they don’t agree with me 🤪 I don’t think I’ll be met with famous philosophers sayings from random people in the street encouraging me in my own madness.
I’m glad others see this for what it really is. 👏🏻 Cliff 👏🏻
@@aviawake2763 looks like you didn't study Platone' s philosophy. He explains why his philosophy is the only "doctrine" that people should follow if you want to really understand him. Otherwise you should stop talking about things you don't know
ı find it so difficult to understand how we have chosen to end up so idiotically still ignoring these great minds.THANKS to The School of Life from the bottom of my heart.
Omg i thought id get bored but that was amazing. Truly eye-opening
Well said. Plato is one of my favourite philosophers.
Philosophy is a fascinating subject. I really wish I had people with whom i can have an intellectual conversation. Thoughts exchanged with thoughts, new ideas with new ideas.
1st time ever I m satisfied with the definition of beauty and love .