my logic is, if done by the park, and by someone who does it on a pro level it can be cool and a useful tool, both to inspect things, and for cool sick promo shots, if not done by someone who knows what they are doing and not by the park its a no for me
I just passed my Part 107 certification test and earned my federal drone license! Eventually, I’d love to learn how to follow roller coasters and create awesome, immersive videos for a variety of parks and attractions, like the one you used from Valleyfair! I agree with everything you’re saying though; do not fly drones over amusement parks or most other public locations without consent, even and especially if you’re a licensed pilot. There’s no reason to put yourself, your drone, and those below your vehicle at risk. Anything can happen; don’t feel invulnerable.
@@L2theWcarscoffeelife part 107 allows you extra stuff atop the unlicensed rules, like flying at night, over vehicles, and above 400 ft. It appears that you have no idea what *you're* talking about. Maybe Google next time before you so confidently stick your neck out?
It's the same as with taking your phone to film on rides. The professional, controlled footage will always look 10x better than your own anyways and the videos are out there, so there's no point to even bother. Ps, there's an amazing video of a drone following Helix as a train navigates that coaster's layout that's seriously impressive to watch! Crazy drone pilot skills
If you are a good pilot then your footage will look better than parks "pwofesshunul" footage because parks usually hire out some random guys who are from cameratography and they just got a drone because they wanna get aerial shots. Rather than working with people who grew with the hobby of flying radio controlled aircraft who care about their hobby with enthusiasm and know the dynamics of their flight and have grown a good precission on sticks over time. This isn't anything similar to pulling out a phone in a roller coaster. I have seen alton towers have drone shots about nemesis trucks where they guy seems to not even know that you can fly slowly by not pushing full stick. If you think helix footage is cool, you should check same fpv drones actually ripping in a bando and see how they are really flown
I worked as security at Legoland NY from construction till year 1. We would get unauthorized drones ALL the time. One time we had to shut down the main dragon coaster because a huge multi rotor drone was flying around over the park. We would also get helicopter that would circle the park or even small fixed wing aircraft.
There is also a moderate risk of fire after a crash. If drones are being used by the park, the staff should be aware that it could happen, and be trained on how to respond effectively if it were to happen. Drones are the perfect tool for so many things at an amusment park but, one mismanaged incident could be a deal breaker. As for people just flying drones into amusement parks, most of them likely plan to publish their content somewhere like RUclips. Perhaps the Coaster and Drone communities can work together and influence these people to make smarter decisions. Unfortunately regulations may not change until an serious incident happens.
A lot of people where I live (I’m not going to say where) don’t seem to understand why the company that owns 99% of railway infrastructure here has essentially placed an unofficial ban on drones being flown near railway lines (unfortunately this ban cannot be legally enforced) (For anyone wondering, the reasons include safety of trains and trackside workers, and it could also collide with helicopters used for inspection)
I see it as trespassing if you aren’t authorized to do it. Literally flying over someone else’s private property to look over things. I assume what LEL did wasn’t authorized if their work was all taken down.
If you wanna know how bad colliding with anything while on a roller coaster, look at Apollo's Chafiot in Bush Gardens Williamsburg. Fabio was in the first row on the inaugural ride. On the first hill, a Canadian goose collided with him, and hit Fabio in the face, breaking his nose.
Telling people to not fly a drone at a theme park isl like telling people not to text and drive, sure you can do it, but good luck getting people to follow the advice. They all think the same thing, the rules don't apply to them and nothing bad will happen.Playing the odds with other people's lives is not just stupid, it's cruel and evil.
I've seen people saying that its a, and I quote "Civic rights violations" that they took Lake Erie Lifestyle's stuff down. That just absolutely baffles me. It was a dumb mistake on their part, and cedar point has the right to take it down. Especially since they went over a construction site. Its private property anyways. If they want to film from over the water, i think that's fine, but not where it could cause harm.
Some drone fliers have a weird idea that the air above a person's property is public, so flying a drone above private property is fine. This isn't the case, depending on local laws of course. Some states give you the right to shoot down unauthorized drones over your property. In the case of an amusement park under construction, it could easily be argued as no different than sneaking in on the ground. If you stay on public property, then there's nothing they can do. A similar example was a water-skiing show in Wisconsin Dells (now closed down). The company owned pretty much all land where the show could be seen from, and had legal rights to restrict boat traffic from coming to close. So you legally couldn't watch from any land unless you paid them, but could get a boat and watch from the river outside their safety zone and they couldn't stop that.
That Valleyfair! drone footage has so much CGI it’s hard for me to tell what, if anything is real. Love the idea of this kind of footage though. Maybe someone will make a parallel track with cameras on a car for videos of your ride experience. Even if only 6 sec or so of the ride. I could see that being popular.
Drone flights by professionals with permission from and in coordination with the park are fine, and can generate cool promo footage as well as be used for inspection. Drone flights by some rando with no permission? Dumb. There's already the risk of injury from a bird with bad timing, we don't need to add risk of injury from a remote-controlled helicopter that's _trying_ to be near the ride.
Valleyfair! is my local park and at least two of our attractions have had their height restricted by the FAA (Wild Thing and Power Tower). It's because of a nearby airport Flying Cloud Airport which I grew up down the road from! Private airport iirc but being close to MSP and the Metro it's a pretty active one. I'd see some pretty cool decommissioned military planes flying around when playing outside growing up. It is a little frustrating having the airport effect Valleyfair! I would love a gigacoster but the Power Tower was going to be 300 feet originally so it's 275 feet instead. So unless they got permission to dig some big holes... The restrictions make me curious if there would be any tighter rules for flying a drone around Valleyfair! even with permission from the park!
Before generalising everything thats not forced to stay ground as bad, please do some research about tinywhoops and some smaller and lighter forms of radio controlled aircraft too. You can't tell me that I am going to damage property or hurt someone if I just wanna have fun ripping some tinywhoop. Sure we won't fly some 5 inch at a park but you can't generalise everything as bad just cuz it can fly. A bird is more dangerous physically than a tinywhoop can be. Oh don't get me started on fixed wing foamies (which as the name suggest they are literally pieces of foam with a motor and a few servos) Sub 250 cinewhoops (they have ducted fans around propellers so you need to intentionally stick your finger in if you wanna get injured for whatever reason) Gliders (there is not even a motor) Anything in and below micro scale
Even a small / low powered thing can do serious damage. At the very least, you can get hit in the eye by a little foam toy helicopter. That doesn't mix well with a kid on a ride going fast or whatever.
Na this is total crap. Don't kick someone while they are down. People were going crazy over Lake Erie Lifestyles being removed....and now all the sudden everyone is acting like they are experts and knew all along what he was doing was wrong. If everyone knew...why didn't you stop him instead of BEG for more footage?? This "community" is so two faced/immature/ loves to capitalize on others downfall. Grow up.
This video was planned for a while before then. The situation blew up and I chose to finish production. I never personally watched improperly filmed drone footage of any park and LEL was not the only person doing it.
“Everyone’s acting like an expert” when Coaster College literally IS a theme park ride operator and is highly educated on ride safety and operations. M’kay.
my logic is, if done by the park, and by someone who does it on a pro level it can be cool and a useful tool, both to inspect things, and for cool sick promo shots, if not done by someone who knows what they are doing and not by the park its a no for me
I just passed my Part 107 certification test and earned my federal drone license! Eventually, I’d love to learn how to follow roller coasters and create awesome, immersive videos for a variety of parks and attractions, like the one you used from Valleyfair! I agree with everything you’re saying though; do not fly drones over amusement parks or most other public locations without consent, even and especially if you’re a licensed pilot. There’s no reason to put yourself, your drone, and those below your vehicle at risk. Anything can happen; don’t feel invulnerable.
as soon as you said license that says you have no idea what your talking about.
@@L2theWcarscoffeelife part 107 allows you extra stuff atop the unlicensed rules, like flying at night, over vehicles, and above 400 ft. It appears that you have no idea what *you're* talking about. Maybe Google next time before you so confidently stick your neck out?
@@L2theWcarscoffeelife r/confidentlyincorrect
It's the same as with taking your phone to film on rides. The professional, controlled footage will always look 10x better than your own anyways and the videos are out there, so there's no point to even bother.
Ps, there's an amazing video of a drone following Helix as a train navigates that coaster's layout that's seriously impressive to watch! Crazy drone pilot skills
If you are a good pilot then your footage will look better than parks "pwofesshunul" footage because parks usually hire out some random guys who are from cameratography and they just got a drone because they wanna get aerial shots. Rather than working with people who grew with the hobby of flying radio controlled aircraft who care about their hobby with enthusiasm and know the dynamics of their flight and have grown a good precission on sticks over time. This isn't anything similar to pulling out a phone in a roller coaster. I have seen alton towers have drone shots about nemesis trucks where they guy seems to not even know that you can fly slowly by not pushing full stick.
If you think helix footage is cool, you should check same fpv drones actually ripping in a bando and see how they are really flown
I worked as security at Legoland NY from construction till year 1. We would get unauthorized drones ALL the time. One time we had to shut down the main dragon coaster because a huge multi rotor drone was flying around over the park. We would also get helicopter that would circle the park or even small fixed wing aircraft.
There is also a moderate risk of fire after a crash. If drones are being used by the park, the staff should be aware that it could happen, and be trained on how to respond effectively if it were to happen. Drones are the perfect tool for so many things at an amusment park but, one mismanaged incident could be a deal breaker.
As for people just flying drones into amusement parks, most of them likely plan to publish their content somewhere like RUclips. Perhaps the Coaster and Drone communities can work together and influence these people to make smarter decisions. Unfortunately regulations may not change until an serious incident happens.
A lot of people where I live (I’m not going to say where) don’t seem to understand why the company that owns 99% of railway infrastructure here has essentially placed an unofficial ban on drones being flown near railway lines (unfortunately this ban cannot be legally enforced)
(For anyone wondering, the reasons include safety of trains and trackside workers, and it could also collide with helicopters used for inspection)
I see it as trespassing if you aren’t authorized to do it. Literally flying over someone else’s private property to look over things. I assume what LEL did wasn’t authorized if their work was all taken down.
If you wanna know how bad colliding with anything while on a roller coaster, look at Apollo's Chafiot in Bush Gardens Williamsburg.
Fabio was in the first row on the inaugural ride.
On the first hill, a Canadian goose collided with him, and hit Fabio in the face, breaking his nose.
Great timing 😂
This reminds me of people who shine lasers at airplanes smh
Never noticed drones before at amusement parks
Telling people to not fly a drone at a theme park isl like telling people not to text and drive, sure you can do it, but good luck getting people to follow the advice. They all think the same thing, the rules don't apply to them and nothing bad will happen.Playing the odds with other people's lives is not just stupid, it's cruel and evil.
What is the Lake Erie lifestyle situation and why is everyone talking about it?
All of this is fairly obvious, which means that the chowderheads with drones really need to hear it.
Flying drones above a themepark is illegal in the Netherlands. Even for parks in the off season without propper permits
New fear unlocked. o.O
I've seen people saying that its a, and I quote "Civic rights violations" that they took Lake Erie Lifestyle's stuff down. That just absolutely baffles me. It was a dumb mistake on their part, and cedar point has the right to take it down. Especially since they went over a construction site. Its private property anyways. If they want to film from over the water, i think that's fine, but not where it could cause harm.
Some drone fliers have a weird idea that the air above a person's property is public, so flying a drone above private property is fine.
This isn't the case, depending on local laws of course. Some states give you the right to shoot down unauthorized drones over your property.
In the case of an amusement park under construction, it could easily be argued as no different than sneaking in on the ground. If you stay on public property, then there's nothing they can do.
A similar example was a water-skiing show in Wisconsin Dells (now closed down). The company owned pretty much all land where the show could be seen from, and had legal rights to restrict boat traffic from coming to close. So you legally couldn't watch from any land unless you paid them, but could get a boat and watch from the river outside their safety zone and they couldn't stop that.
Well said! I think it’s silly how many people are upset about Lake Erie Life Styles… just be glad we got the footage for as long as we did!
I feel dumb now. Altho one thing I don't get is why they waited until only now to take action against them.
@@Sokobansolver I would bet anything this isn’t when they finally took action…. Only when they were finally successful lol
As someone who owns a drone I have had it malfunction and lose control which could have been very dangerous in an amusement park
This video has good timing 😂
East Coasters Has Some Great Drone Footage
That Valleyfair! drone footage has so much CGI it’s hard for me to tell what, if anything is real. Love the idea of this kind of footage though.
Maybe someone will make a parallel track with cameras on a car for videos of your ride experience. Even if only 6 sec or so of the ride. I could see that being popular.
Is this in response to the Lake Erie Lifestyles situation?
The video was actually planned before then, but that accelerated it lol.
My intrusive thought is that building gimbal mounted 100 mph drone just to filming Fury 325 from front
Drone flights by professionals with permission from and in coordination with the park are fine, and can generate cool promo footage as well as be used for inspection. Drone flights by some rando with no permission? Dumb. There's already the risk of injury from a bird with bad timing, we don't need to add risk of injury from a remote-controlled helicopter that's _trying_ to be near the ride.
I feel like it's only a matter of time before someone dies this way.
honestly facts
Parks should block the drone like airports do. Unless it’s authorized by the park.
Valleyfair! is my local park and at least two of our attractions have had their height restricted by the FAA (Wild Thing and Power Tower). It's because of a nearby airport Flying Cloud Airport which I grew up down the road from! Private airport iirc but being close to MSP and the Metro it's a pretty active one. I'd see some pretty cool decommissioned military planes flying around when playing outside growing up.
It is a little frustrating having the airport effect Valleyfair! I would love a gigacoster but the Power Tower was going to be 300 feet originally so it's 275 feet instead. So unless they got permission to dig some big holes...
The restrictions make me curious if there would be any tighter rules for flying a drone around Valleyfair! even with permission from the park!
You just sound jealous af of lake erie lifestyles
Things that need to be stated that are obvious. Unless you are a professional, do not. Safety of other people comes before cool footage.
Before generalising everything thats not forced to stay ground as bad, please do some research about tinywhoops and some smaller and lighter forms of radio controlled aircraft too. You can't tell me that I am going to damage property or hurt someone if I just wanna have fun ripping some tinywhoop. Sure we won't fly some 5 inch at a park but you can't generalise everything as bad just cuz it can fly. A bird is more dangerous physically than a tinywhoop can be.
Oh don't get me started on fixed wing foamies (which as the name suggest they are literally pieces of foam with a motor and a few servos)
Sub 250 cinewhoops (they have ducted fans around propellers so you need to intentionally stick your finger in if you wanna get injured for whatever reason)
Gliders (there is not even a motor)
Anything in and below micro scale
Even a small / low powered thing can do serious damage. At the very least, you can get hit in the eye by a little foam toy helicopter. That doesn't mix well with a kid on a ride going fast or whatever.
Na this is total crap. Don't kick someone while they are down. People were going crazy over Lake Erie Lifestyles being removed....and now all the sudden everyone is acting like they are experts and knew all along what he was doing was wrong. If everyone knew...why didn't you stop him instead of BEG for more footage?? This "community" is so two faced/immature/ loves to capitalize on others downfall. Grow up.
This video was planned for a while before then. The situation blew up and I chose to finish production. I never personally watched improperly filmed drone footage of any park and LEL was not the only person doing it.
“Everyone’s acting like an expert” when Coaster College literally IS a theme park ride operator and is highly educated on ride safety and operations. M’kay.
Coincidentally timed after what happened to Lake Erie Lifestyles
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