Hydroton, they are an inert hydroponic media. Not good for aquariums as they have a tendency to float. A good alternative for aquarium use would be ecocomplete. Similar in a lot of ways but sinks better.
The air stone is a brilliant way to introduce/dose CO2. I do 12 hrs on my anubias. If I get algae on the leaves I just wipe it off with my thumb and wipe it on a paper towel. As the anubias begins to shade the miracle grow soil, algae growing on the substrate is no longer an issue.
I think the ayirstone has been working great! no need to open the lid to let it fresh air as it is constantly supplied by the airstone :) Nice, ya that's pretty much how I do it as well. This setup is getting a total photo period of 12 hours. 4 hours of high intensity light and 8 hours of lower intensity light (from the adjacent rack). I think Ill start ramping up the period of the Fluval light here in a week or so after one more batch of leaves come in. Hopefully that will provide even more growth :0
My guess is that the buce is just acclimatizing to the new setup/parameters, it can be like that. Try not to worry and just let them bounce, will probably take a little time, then they'll finally start to thrive
Thats been my thought on the matter. Mainly due to the fact that the rhizomes that had no leaves to begin with have all sprouted new leaves and have not melted! Hopefully time will be the secret ingredient 😃
I'm not a plant expert especially aquatic plants I grow roses and dahlias and used to have fish. The only thing that comes to mind about your two species and one tank is that maybe the nana has a natural aggressive response to a foreign species in the closed water system. It's just a thought
That is a good suggestion, thank you! What you are referring to is known as Allelopathy. It's when plant species produce chemical compounds which can impact growth of other species. I could setup an experiment testing this by a sample of the two species separated in otherwise similar setups and seeing if there are differences. As compared to this setup. good suggestion! Anyone else know if Anubias and Bucephalandra engage in allelopathy?
have you found out after all this time if the allelochemicals were in fact impacting the system with both plants in at the same time? great videos by the way ;) @@AquariumPlantLab
I've never grown Buce emersed, but Buce is crazy slow period. I would just give it some more time. You've got new growth on some of them. Just slow to adjust.
Cut all the leaves off the buce that are melting , you will get fresh growth from the rhizome. Usually grow my buce it the plastic tubs with potting soil not fully submerged. Good video.
far from an expert, but I started 2 species of buce emersed about a month ago and both have new growth. Setup is similar to yours, but the rhizome and leaves are completely emersed. I've been told to "make buce work for it". Apparently emersed leaves and rhizome trigger the roots to shoot down and trigger foliage growth.
Thanks for sharing! My Buce is generating new growth too, its just the older leaves that are melting. Seems to have occurred when I increased the light intensity. Could be shock I suppose 🤔
have you thought about seeding the system with bladder snail and increase the photo period to 8 on 4 off ? those common pest bladder snails are great dealing with algae but only problem is you've to dip with pesticide after plants grow out and move into aquarium.
Great video! What kind of pump are you using to circulate the water? In my experience, my Buce Kedagang grows like wildfire completely submersed. I tried growing emersed in individual bowls, in potting soil, they grew for sure, but not as vigorously as when submersed. I usually have a large harvest in my 17 gallon tank about 4 times a year.
Good question! The submersible pump uses only 5 watts of power if I recall correctly. Meaning that even if it was inefficient and creating more heat than circulation, it would only provide negligible amounts of heat (considering that most aquarium heaters are 100 watts or more). I have been monitoring the water temperature and it follows closely with the room temperature which is typically kept at 72-80F. Regarding water change. No topup has been necessary as a gass lid prevents evaporation. So what I have been doing so far is changing the water every few weeks to provide fresh hydroponic nutrient solution and therefore restore nutrient concentrations. 👍
i used to create a setup similar to yours using higher power pump but failed managing the water temperature. seems like low power pump is the answer. tks man, you made my day! i'm ready to give another shot
I try to keep all of my containers between 70 and 80F. At night they are closer to 70, during the day (lights on), they are closer to 80. I try to keep this consistent regardless of season. 👍
Ive used several hydroponic ferts with very similar results. I am currently using Maxigro which is a 10-5-14. Here is an affiliate link to amazon. (note I get a commission if you purchase through the link): amzn.to/3uGYdG7
Great video. Please, there is a question.. I have the same plant in the tank.. but I suffer a lot from algae on the leaves.. knowing that I do not use much light.. Give me advice please..
Any update on bucephalandra? I started this system few weeks ago and all my bucephalandra except white marble and white platinum is facing same issue. I’m starting to get concerned.
the maxi grow - do you have the granules, or liquid? I have purchased the granules, but when added to a spray bottle, they do not dissolve very quickly, *(spay bottle is used for misting moss grows) so i am wondering if i am not using it correctly.
The maxigro I have is more of a powder than a granule. Make sure you’re not making the solution too strong, this will make it difficult to dissolve. Warm water helps it dissolve better 👍
You might have better luck with yescom led panels, that light is strong enough to grow venus fly traps, and these guys are sun loving plants that like full sun.
Thats a thought! Though the Fluval 2.0 (&3.0) is a powerful light, generating very high par levels, particularly for emersed plants. I would suspect that photo intensity is not likely an issue given that Anubias and Buce are tropical understory plants which receive relatively diffused lighting in most areas naturally. Photoperiod on the other hand may be a more likely issue with this setup. I would like to increase the photoperiod of the light above the tank significantly but I know ill run into algae issues given the exposed water and nutrient load.
I’ve never heard of the term black rush but I think you are referring to what I know as Anubias rot. I’ve never experienced Anubias rot in this setup or any of my setups actually. I dread the day it may happen though 😳
@@AquariumPlantLab in indonesia so many Black Rush affected.. What do you think about that? Fungus or bacteria... the rhizome melts and is contagious..
Do you think photo intensity or photoperiod is lacking? Currently it’s getting a 4 hours of full intensity high par value light and 8 additional hours of lower lighting (similar to sunrise full sun and sunset).
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Heyy what are those red balls called? Is it good for aquarium
Hydroton, they are an inert hydroponic media. Not good for aquariums as they have a tendency to float. A good alternative for aquarium use would be ecocomplete. Similar in a lot of ways but sinks better.
I'm glad this configuration is going well, I hope all this is successful, keep it up bro!
Thank you for your support!!! 🤞
Loved the System, Great growth
Thank you! I am pleased with how it is developing :)
The air stone is a brilliant way to introduce/dose CO2. I do 12 hrs on my anubias. If I get algae on the leaves I just wipe it off with my thumb and wipe it on a paper towel. As the anubias begins to shade the miracle grow soil, algae growing on the substrate is no longer an issue.
I think the ayirstone has been working great! no need to open the lid to let it fresh air as it is constantly supplied by the airstone :)
Nice, ya that's pretty much how I do it as well. This setup is getting a total photo period of 12 hours. 4 hours of high intensity light and 8 hours of lower intensity light (from the adjacent rack). I think Ill start ramping up the period of the Fluval light here in a week or so after one more batch of leaves come in. Hopefully that will provide even more growth :0
Every video is awesome thank you
Thank you :)
Great looking anubias!!
Thank you :) 🌱
Great video. Already in the intro, i wondered how those leca balls aren't all floating around.
same
My guess is that the buce is just acclimatizing to the new setup/parameters, it can be like that.
Try not to worry and just let them bounce, will probably take a little time, then they'll finally start to thrive
Thats been my thought on the matter. Mainly due to the fact that the rhizomes that had no leaves to begin with have all sprouted new leaves and have not melted! Hopefully time will be the secret ingredient 😃
Wonderful.
Thank you for your continued support :)
I'm not a plant expert especially aquatic plants I grow roses and dahlias and used to have fish. The only thing that comes to mind about your two species and one tank is that maybe the nana has a natural aggressive response to a foreign species in the closed water system. It's just a thought
That is a good suggestion, thank you! What you are referring to is known as Allelopathy. It's when plant species produce chemical compounds which can impact growth of other species. I could setup an experiment testing this by a sample of the two species separated in otherwise similar setups and seeing if there are differences. As compared to this setup. good suggestion!
Anyone else know if Anubias and Bucephalandra engage in allelopathy?
have you found out after all this time if the allelochemicals were in fact impacting the system with both plants in at the same time? great videos by the way ;)
@@AquariumPlantLab
I've never grown Buce emersed, but Buce is crazy slow period. I would just give it some more time. You've got new growth on some of them. Just slow to adjust.
Good advice! Thanks for the suggestion. They are indeed growing 😊
Cut all the leaves off the buce that are melting , you will get fresh growth from the rhizome. Usually grow my buce it the plastic tubs with potting soil not fully submerged. Good video.
Thanks for the tip! In your tubs to you have water above the soil level or is it just moist soil?
@@AquariumPlantLab hi just moist soil
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Set the light up for 8 hours on a separate tank, I’m sure you’d get crazy growth
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far from an expert, but I started 2 species of buce emersed about a month ago and both have new growth. Setup is similar to yours, but the rhizome and leaves are completely emersed. I've been told to "make buce work for it". Apparently emersed leaves and rhizome trigger the roots to shoot down and trigger foliage growth.
Thanks for sharing! My Buce is generating new growth too, its just the older leaves that are melting. Seems to have occurred when I increased the light intensity. Could be shock I suppose 🤔
Can I know the fertilizer used for good growth.?
have you thought about seeding the system with bladder snail and increase the photo period to 8 on 4 off ?
those common pest bladder snails are great dealing with algae but only problem is you've to dip with pesticide after plants grow out and move into aquarium.
Great video! What kind of pump are you using to circulate the water? In my experience, my Buce Kedagang grows like wildfire completely submersed. I tried growing emersed in individual bowls, in potting soil, they grew for sure, but not as vigorously as when submersed. I usually have a large harvest in my 17 gallon tank about 4 times a year.
the progress is legit! just wonder how you manage water temperature due to heat produced by submersible pump. also do you apply water change or topup?
Good question! The submersible pump uses only 5 watts of power if I recall correctly. Meaning that even if it was inefficient and creating more heat than circulation, it would only provide negligible amounts of heat (considering that most aquarium heaters are 100 watts or more). I have been monitoring the water temperature and it follows closely with the room temperature which is typically kept at 72-80F.
Regarding water change. No topup has been necessary as a gass lid prevents evaporation. So what I have been doing so far is changing the water every few weeks to provide fresh hydroponic nutrient solution and therefore restore nutrient concentrations. 👍
i used to create a setup similar to yours using higher power pump but failed managing the water temperature. seems like low power pump is the answer. tks man, you made my day! i'm ready to give another shot
How do you get your hydroton to sink?
Yesss someone answer this please!
What temperature are you keeping your bins at? I have trouble getting submersed stem cuttings to transition during the winter months.
I try to keep all of my containers between 70 and 80F. At night they are closer to 70, during the day (lights on), they are closer to 80. I try to keep this consistent regardless of season. 👍
Hello, what is the NPK of you new hydroponics fertilizer?
Ive used several hydroponic ferts with very similar results. I am currently using Maxigro which is a 10-5-14. Here is an affiliate link to amazon. (note I get a commission if you purchase through the link): amzn.to/3uGYdG7
Great video. Please, there is a question.. I have the same plant in the tank.. but I suffer a lot from algae on the leaves.. knowing that I do not use much light..
Give me advice please..
Have some golden algae eater and Siamese algae eaters. U will forget abt algae even if u keep lights on for 10 12 hrs a aday
For how long you keep the light on ???
Any update on bucephalandra? I started this system few weeks ago and all my bucephalandra except white marble and white platinum is facing same issue. I’m starting to get concerned.
the maxi grow - do you have the granules, or liquid? I have purchased the granules, but when added to a spray bottle, they do not dissolve very quickly, *(spay bottle is used for misting moss grows)
so i am wondering if i am not using it correctly.
The maxigro I have is more of a powder than a granule. Make sure you’re not making the solution too strong, this will make it difficult to dissolve. Warm water helps it dissolve better 👍
Is it okay if I kept it in a thermocol above my tank under normal light, can I get better results? Or will the light destroy my plant?
You might have better luck with yescom led panels, that light is strong enough to grow venus fly traps, and these guys are sun loving plants that like full sun.
Thats a thought! Though the Fluval 2.0 (&3.0) is a powerful light, generating very high par levels, particularly for emersed plants. I would suspect that photo intensity is not likely an issue given that Anubias and Buce are tropical understory plants which receive relatively diffused lighting in most areas naturally.
Photoperiod on the other hand may be a more likely issue with this setup. I would like to increase the photoperiod of the light above the tank significantly but I know ill run into algae issues given the exposed water and nutrient load.
Is that a stone?or a soil?
So this is your plan to becoming a trillionaire
Haha at the rate Anubias grows that may take a million years 😂
@@AquariumPlantLab true that
Substrate name?
this system does not cause Black Rush? You know its a problem with anubias
I’ve never heard of the term black rush but I think you are referring to what I know as Anubias rot. I’ve never experienced Anubias rot in this setup or any of my setups actually. I dread the day it may happen though 😳
@@AquariumPlantLab in indonesia so many Black Rush affected.. What do you think about that? Fungus or bacteria... the rhizome melts and is contagious..
My leca floats
I’ve heard that off brand Leca has a tendency to do that. In my experience hydroton brand sinks after it’s had time to soak up water.
Lighting is not enough for buce. Buce demands more light than anubias. System is good but need to increase lighting for buce, especially blues.
Do you think photo intensity or photoperiod is lacking?
Currently it’s getting a 4 hours of full intensity high par value light and 8 additional hours of lower lighting (similar to sunrise full sun and sunset).