Going in they are pretty good. I like the deeper ones for most jobs. Coming out is a bear. 😀😎 Then again if we do it write we won't have to take them out. It is the next guys problem.
They are durable. The big draw back for me with the plastic is the holes for the long mounting screws strip out if you aren't careful with the power driver and take forever with a hand screwdriver. I use to use a Yankee to run them down. I have all the Yankee's packed in a box ready to move to the new Annex workshop.
Good news they make stacker boxes now but arnt very common and are special order but not expensive. Me and the people I work with HATE nail on boxes with a passion. We use the adjustable depth that go on thr face if the stud like the old ones but you better be sure of the placement. The 2nd and most common we use are southwire smart boxes. They have 2 sheetrock screws at a angle to attach them to the stud. They have much better quality rounded clamp arrest that dint kill romex like thoes nail ons. If you have an issue with a smart box or wanna move something simply unscrew it pull the wire out or cut it done it's just s hole. No damage to the sheetrock. Thoes 3 peice ones are 4x the labor to remove when people wanna switch them out and require carbide osslating tool blades to not hack up the wall. I'm glad they did away with them a while ago less I have to fix. Yea red switch or outlet these days us hospital grade and 12 bucks a switch. They have made things alot easier to do now and decora edge ir heavy duty outlets and switches actually safe thr customer money. No j hook just plates or levers (not backstabs not the same) to secure the wire are so much faster to install and are only a tad bit more expensive. It's materials for time and you get a better product too. Most of the time in a rewire on a old home they used fence staples to secure the wire making near impossible to pull out of the wall. The perils of a very old house I don't miss it. I appreciate the demo of a 3 peice box and yes I was cringing at the sight of them watching the video.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn Romex staples are a nightmare. Yes once they are in just cut the ends and pull new. Staple every 6 feet and one within 3 feet of the box. Compounded by having to drive them in between duct work, plumbing, and you're screwed if there is a hidden chimney or fireplace in the wall. On West Chicago St. I chiseled across the width of a brick fireplace from the next room wall to wall. Then plastered the wall back so you couldn't see the line. All so there could be a table lamp. It all paid the same. So much an hour. Setting the box was easy. The next guy will hate me. 😁😎
@@MattHmm-rq6dn I have used the adjustable depth boxes but not often. I quit being a electrician in my twenties. Welding and Fabrication paid more. Then Tool and Die psi3d more thsn welding and fab. Finally Supervision paid the best. Full benefits anf free travel. Later I got into Engineering then Eng Mgr. All without a degree. Last 20 years I wrote work instructions and did consulting engineering. Retired Happy.
Hopefully the guy who wired your house knew about pulling wire and leaving a little slack for next time. My guy pulled all the wire tight as a bow string and left just enough in the box to reach the outlets.
Painting over the switch! I worked on some fighter jets that had a fiberglass radome on the nose. On that radome was the label "DO NOT PAINT". I saw one such radome that had been painted (messing up the radar operation) and very neatly painted on was "DO NOT PAINT".
You mentioned working on older houses. I only worked on older homes that always had paint on the switches. Sometimes wallpaper. I did a few stick built homes with Dad. Later at Home Builders Inc. I did modular homes. The last year I worked there they made them with plasterboard instead of paneling. 😀😎
This is all good memories for me and I have to say that I put together many of these and I have to say that I don’t mind them….Good one…..CHEERS
Going in they are pretty good. I like the deeper ones for most jobs.
Coming out is a bear. 😀😎 Then again if we do it write we won't have to take them out. It is the next guys problem.
I've seen those boxes! Never had much dealing with them! We are always praying for you and Lydia 🙏🙏🙏
Love those old 3 piece boxes..
Being able to take it apart was a real bonus
They are durable.
The big draw back for me with the plastic is the holes for the long mounting screws strip out if you aren't careful with the power driver and take forever with a hand screwdriver.
I use to use a Yankee to run them down. I have all the Yankee's packed in a box ready to move to the new Annex workshop.
Lots of good formation
Nearly 3/4 of a century of experience 😁 from Dad and another 65 years of my own.😎😁😁😁
Good news they make stacker boxes now but arnt very common and are special order but not expensive. Me and the people I work with HATE nail on boxes with a passion. We use the adjustable depth that go on thr face if the stud like the old ones but you better be sure of the placement. The 2nd and most common we use are southwire smart boxes. They have 2 sheetrock screws at a angle to attach them to the stud. They have much better quality rounded clamp arrest that dint kill romex like thoes nail ons. If you have an issue with a smart box or wanna move something simply unscrew it pull the wire out or cut it done it's just s hole. No damage to the sheetrock. Thoes 3 peice ones are 4x the labor to remove when people wanna switch them out and require carbide osslating tool blades to not hack up the wall. I'm glad they did away with them a while ago less I have to fix. Yea red switch or outlet these days us hospital grade and 12 bucks a switch. They have made things alot easier to do now and decora edge ir heavy duty outlets and switches actually safe thr customer money. No j hook just plates or levers (not backstabs not the same) to secure the wire are so much faster to install and are only a tad bit more expensive. It's materials for time and you get a better product too. Most of the time in a rewire on a old home they used fence staples to secure the wire making near impossible to pull out of the wall. The perils of a very old house I don't miss it. I appreciate the demo of a 3 peice box and yes I was cringing at the sight of them watching the video.
Side note not all plastic boxes are the same the smart boxes are fiberglass reinforced and arnt brittle, they're tough like a platic cutting board.
@@MattHmm-rq6dn Romex staples are a nightmare. Yes once they are in just cut the ends and pull new.
Staple every 6 feet and one within 3 feet of the box.
Compounded by having to drive them in between duct work, plumbing, and you're screwed if there is a hidden chimney or fireplace in the wall.
On West Chicago St. I chiseled across the width of a brick fireplace from the next room wall to wall. Then plastered the wall back so you couldn't see the line. All so there could be a table lamp. It all paid the same. So much an hour.
Setting the box was easy. The next guy will hate me. 😁😎
@@MattHmm-rq6dn I have used the adjustable depth boxes but not often. I quit being a electrician in my twenties. Welding and Fabrication paid more. Then Tool and Die psi3d more thsn welding and fab. Finally Supervision paid the best. Full benefits anf free travel. Later I got into Engineering then Eng Mgr. All without a degree.
Last 20 years I wrote work instructions and did consulting engineering. Retired Happy.
Thanks for the info and I have been swapping out some kitchen and bathroom outlets to GFI.
Hopefully the guy who wired your house knew about pulling wire and leaving a little slack for next time.
My guy pulled all the wire tight as a bow string and left just enough in the box to reach the outlets.
Thank God I have about 1/2 inch slack
@@tomyot77 Dad always said to leave 6" on the wire in the junction box.
Painting over the switch! I worked on some fighter jets that had a fiberglass radome on the nose. On that radome was the label "DO NOT PAINT". I saw one such radome that had been painted (messing up the radar operation) and very neatly painted on was "DO NOT PAINT".
It's a thing for me too if I see it painted inside on the yolk it gets replaced and that person gets a stern talking to!
Can't say I've never made a mistake. I haven't done that one though.😀😎
You mentioned working on older houses.
I only worked on older homes that always had paint on the switches. Sometimes wallpaper. I did a few stick built homes with Dad. Later at Home Builders Inc. I did modular homes. The last year I worked there they made them with plasterboard instead of paneling. 😀😎
I've seen the metal boxes but never used them.The plastic ones were fine for adding outlets and switches. No fires so far. God Bless Yall
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Fire is a big no no.
@@OldSneelock VERY big! All mine was 12 gauge triplex with staples.