Madeleine McCann - deleted and mysterious phone calls
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- This video examines the phone activity of Kate & Gerry McCann over the week that they were holidaying in Praia da Luz in Portugal and some fascinating aspects arising out of these records which might shed more light on what happened to Madeleine.
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I live in Italy and I have never met one single person here who did not think that the parents were the killers.
Accidental death. Madeleine very likely woke up whilst her parents were in the Tapas bar, and had a fall, hitting her head.
or was giving too much sleeping medication. After all they were both doctors, but I believe as you - her mother carried her and she fell out of her arms and hit her head.@@neilwoodgate-hq7bz
@@neilwoodgate-hq7bzwhere was the blood trail you could be right but doubtful
@sabbracadabra8367 I think she died from an accident in the apartment which was a result of the parents negligence and very likely sedating Madeleine in some way. I don't believe the parents deliberately tried to kill their daughter, however they succeeded through incomprehensible selfishness. The evidence of Eddie and Keela alerting behind the sofa strongly suggests madeleine suffered some sort of impact in that area.
Unless they have given them drugs!
The Cuddle cat being washed was suspicious to everyone. That should've been examined as blood traces could still be on it
I still feel rich people have Madeline with a new identity
The cadaver dog did find traces of blood, even though Kate washed it! 😢
@@gretahassock8914 Rubbish. With the amount of news articles, a woman of 20 would be able to identify herself and come forward.
I might be crazy but I still have my beloved dog’s two favourite soft toys;unwashed, in a sealed bag because I didn’t want to throw them away or lose his scent after he had to be put to sleep. If I had lost a child, I think smelling her scent from her favourite toy would help me to feel close to her, especially in those early hours and days. Maybe just me?
I thought she used bleach in the cleaning of Cuddle Cat.
I think most sane people know exactly what really happened but no one has been able to prove it just yet. I hope they get their comeuppance as soon as possible.
Why did she leave the twins to get Jerry , and wash cuddlecat. Where did they put the body?
@@maryaskin4757Where did they drive to in the rental car?
I bet it was it was to the SW tip of Portugal and weigh her down in the Ocean.
in the ocean perhaps, but they caused her death, but it was probably an accident. @@maryaskin4757
@@maryaskin4757in the fridge
It's not about anyone proving it. They're being protected by British police and government intervention. I don't see how the truth comes out in this case.
The only thing you can be 100% sure about is there was no abduction.
Her body was abducted by her parents.
Anyone looking at the Madeline McCann case at this stage is going to have their work cut out to bring something new to the table. You have achieved that and I'm astonished at the detail you have gone into. You have a very pleasing personality to go with it. Many thanks for all the time and effort you have put into these videos. There is so much here I'm going to have to watch them several times. I hope you receive the recognition you deserve.
What very kind words! I appreciate them very much 😊
The truth is out there. The problem is nobody ( By that I mean the McCanns, and so as time goes by now the British police don't really want to find out the truth). Blame and getting rid of anyone's reputation who even gets near the truth is the aim of the game, - use Mr Amerol as an example deterant and warning to anybody else to leave this case well alone. - The truth is not found because it is not in the McCanns interest to do so. Forensic analyst of their phones, technology now available could find out data, there is no will to do so. (Probably by now have convienantly got rid of the phones they had then, - could have been confiscated by the police and analysied, and any "real" evidence is got rid of. Any parent in that horrific situation who really wanted the truth, would not leave "any stone unturned" to find out what happened. Let me state again," no stone unturned."
Omg surly this enough to prosecute these murderers, and the British Embassy, government, everyone in the cover up!!
We need justice for Maddie!! How are these low life parents still getting away with it??😢
Poor Maddie she deserves justice!!
@@karenwright7459I don't think it would matter how much evidence was found against them Karen. I'm convinced they are being protected by the government but I don't really have any idea why. That's about the only question left for me in this case.
Your poem about Maddie in Peter Hyatt's ' A Cup of Coffee in Analysis' was beautiful, very sweet.
@@neilwoodgate-hq7bz I know deep down you're right Neil, but the evidence is overwhelming! Our British government is corrupt! If you're rich you literally get away with murder!
Thank you for your kind words on Maddie's poem!
Best wishes Karen xx
The McCanns seemed to be more interested in protecting themselves than finding Madeleine.
@angelawainman7020 - Of course they did, they didn't want her body found that's why they concocted the phoney abduction story
@@who9387 Its Jamie Davies yes I agree with you @who9387 my friend...
Wouldn't that be understandable, given the relentless onslaught of unsubstantiated accusations they have had to endure?
@@Brian.001 Protecting themselves from day 0 !!!
1 just 12 hours after reporting her missing they hired a firm of EXTRADITION LAWYERS - ask yourself what major crime they had comitted that might entail extradition from UK to Portugal.
1 Also just 12 hours after they hired the most expensive LIBEL LAWYERS in the UK so any mention of alternatives to the McCann lies and bullshit would be shutdown. FYI the incorrectly titled Find Madeleine fund paid for that (95% of that fund paid for those court cases. hardly any of it was actually used to try and find her, which was a waste of titme as only only THEY knew where her body was hidden..
Do some research on the case, their story is barely beleivable.
You're 100 percent right!!! 💕
The McCanns friend, Dr David Payne, is very worthwhile scrutinising. For someone used to dealing with patients, and who therefore addresses all kinds of people daily, his stuttering, vagueness and contradictions, when being interviewed by the police, should have alerted them to the fact that a highly unreliable story was being sold to them. If the police had been serious about getting to the bottom of the case, David Payne should have been repeatedly questioned, and confronted with his deceptive language, extreme nervousness, and inconsistencies.
@mickeysaint4368: This David Payne character at least twice made sexualizing remarks and gestures referring to young children. (probably Madeleine). Shocked witnesses reported this to English police. When the Maddy case started.
This provoking behaviour of Payne happened during earlier short holidays with 'friends'/young parents ‘inside joking' with his big friend Scary Gerry. At least one young couple decided to avoid this so called group of friends…for good.
These Tapas are beyond human..
And yes...probably seriously sexually abused themselves and repeating the abuse obsessively. Split up persons, dangerous.
Some comments mentioned the mk ultra attitude of Gerry and Kate: unusual immature, (arrested development?). Kate is thin/probably anorexic (suppression and control of feelings), very co-dependent with her husband. Young girl face. Lost child attitude. (wears girly ribbons in her pony tail. (she was about 35? ). Gerry too boyish... Plays tennis, goes jogging, taking a haircut while his daughter just disappeared. (What?). Looks overweight and seems ill at ease. All the time. Condescending and hostile towards the Portuguese police. And fuming a lot. Very defensive. Does not match his age.
Whatever the origin of their insanity: People like this (all these lying Tapas) should be taken out of society for long and intensive treatment. By real therapists. Never to be alone near patients and children. Ever!
Not so Great Brittan (like many other countries) has a very serious problem: rampant child abuse paired with severe alcoholism, drugs, immorality, incredible lack of compassion and often shameless authorities.
The last thing you would think of doing is deleating your phone messages and calls when you are out of your mind wanting to know what has happened to your little girl...
Knowing me, I probably wouldn't even remember where I'd put my phone! .
@myrarowlands9216 - At the best of times very few people delete their phone records and texts, doing this when your daughter is missing is unthinkable
@@who9387not if you need to protect yourself.......
I just listened to early Gerry's interview and suddenly I felt sick in my stomach. He is evil.
Exactly.I Still Have a 2002 Text Message From My Dying Father .I changed the Phone, Number and Sealed the Original.
I agree that Richard J Hall's first documentaries on the case were brilliant.
Richard interviewed Peter Hyatt, it’s called Embedded Confessions - ITS A MUST WATCH for anyone interested in this case. One of the best few hours I’ve spent on RUclips.
@@cerealkiller4248I absolutely adore Peter Hyatt. He's so knowledgeable and I love learning from him.
@@christinasutherland3604 have just Discovered Deception detective- for those that liked Peter Hyatt, you will also enjoy the DD.
Me too. Doctors seem to have some degree of immunity from suspicion thats led too many murders a.k.a Dhipman and in this case neglect and manslaughter or murder if they illegally sedated their daughter, indeed if they all sedated their kids it would be reckless endangerment and endangerment of life ( attempted murder) as well as willful neglect, and having intent, being concerned in and supply of a controlled substance to a child. Life sentence material in my opinion. the more responsibility you have in society then the more harsh your punishment must be, especially if you are responsible for the life and death of others, yet care not for your own kids.
Richard D Hall, not J.
If the British police would investigate Gerry and Kateproperly as did the Portuguese police. I have no doubt this case would have been solved. Your videos are top-notch 👌👌👌
It's a great pity Goncalo Amaral was taken off the case because I have no doubt he would have seen it through to the end. Thank you for your kind words :)
@@dancingappaloosa8926I wonder how Mr Amaral's life is today? I think he went to hell and back during his battle with the McCanns. I feel so sorry for him, he was just trying to get to the truth. I love the title of his book but as yet, I haven't read it. If you find out how things are for Mr A nowadays, perhaps you could include that in one of your future videos. From what I have seen so far, you would make a good detective.
@@neilwoodgate-hq7bz I believe he said that the Madeleine McCann case all but ruined his life. The pressure from the British authorities ruined his career and between that and the litigation from the McCanns, the strain ruined his marriage as well. His book was never published in English because English publishers won't touch it with a bargepole, but you can find English translations of it online.
Thanks for your reply and I will definitely try to find his book online. I have seen a RUclips video about it which gave me a good idea of it's content. I gather Kate wrote some pretty nasty things about him in her book, which for me, just re enforced how close he was to the truth, although I do disagree with him on one particular point.
I have always tried to refrain from showing hatred towards the McCanns, as I think you would. Negative emotions are wasted energy, energy which is better used to focus on the positive. Only when the water is completely still, do we see our reflection in it. I have found it of great benefit to keep calm when it is difficult to do so.
I want to know why the British Police are covering up for the McCanns..?
They left their mobiles phones in their room, the room that was supposedly unlocked? Along with their passports, tickets, money, camera, house keys, car keys etc? Let alone the children, who leaves any of that stuff in a holiday apartment and doesn’t lock the door? The room had to be ‘unlocked’ because the window story didn’t fly, and the alleged kidnapper had to get in somehow.
I’m fairly sure it’s confirmed the door was unlock. Agree with what you say about passport tickets money cameras et cetera who would leave them in a room unlocked just unbelievable nobody does that. I know British detectives were instructed to work on an abduction theory and under no circumstances must the McCanns be investigated. This comes from a now retired well respected Met detective. Only police Force investigating Gerry and Kate is the Portuguese police.
There was a comment one researcher made which I thought was very apt: Whatever the McCanns did, it was preferable to let the public think they were simply negligent parents than to let the public know the truth. It's as if the McCanns needed to appear to be careless and negligent to support the idea that Madeleine was abducted.
The sliding door was unlocked we were told but by was it!!!
@@dancingappaloosa8926 Yes careless and negligent is one thing. I think it would be fair to say most parents have slipped up to some degree at some point, although nothing like the McCanns. But sedating your children so you can go and do whatever you please, is a whole different story. One is a very bad mistake, the other is sickening and cannot be defended.
Great point
Maddie hasnt been found. She died in the apartment in Pria de Luz. Her parents then hid her body in the fridge which her dad later dumped. Total cover up start to finish. H9w did this happen? Friends in high places,friends!
The fridge? Where is the evidence for that?
@@flickingbollocks5542he did buy a new fridge for the rental apartment?
@@petesilvers5053 Very interesting.
Thanks Pete.
@@flickingbollocks5542 the Portuguese police said that the body fluids recovered from the car were very fresh consistent with a body being frozen then melted.
@@lindasemple4687 Very interesting, thanks Linda.
Any ideas where they disposed of her?
Anyone?
I'm guessing they threw her in the ocean, weighted down, from one of those capes that point into the Atlantic, although I have nothing to support that idea.
Did the Portuguese Police say where they travelled in the hire car if they tracked it with phone signals or other means ?
Very interesting and well researched film. I feel so sad for Madeline. She has never got justice. What sort of cold person is more interested in taking legal advice and employing PR people than helping the police in any way they can to find their missing child. People who have nothing to hide are happy to give complete transparency to people who are diligently searching for their very young child. It would never occur to most people to sit and delete their call log and text messages…..just saying
Thank you
Sheila I cannot understand why they never joined the search for Maddie. They went jogging, played tennis and on that day Gerry went driving around Lagos and Vil de Bispo for the whole day after he was advised by Scotland Yard that the dogs were to come over from UK. They both drove around and the blips from their phones gave them away. They were presumably in different cars. I didn't realise the had a car each.
When Gerry returned late in the day and was asked what was he doing. He said he was researching for a golf course around the Vil de Bispo - why ? To play as they did with Tennis and the jogging to the old building they frequented.
The area they were looking for a golf course was largely scrubland south of Monchique mountains.
Peace ☮️ out
Absolutely. Their behaviour was and is very strange, whether they knew their little girl was dead or if they thought she was lost or kidnapped ( as they professed to believe) who behaves like them? Most parents would be out of their minds with grief or desperate worry. They and their Tapas friends are all neglectful parents to leave young children on their own in an apartment absolutely disgraceful
@@christynorman7288MAYBE Christie, they split up to provide a decoy.
Madeleine's cadaver was in the main rental car, and driven to her final dumping location, whilst the other car drew attention the driver.
I am pretty sure the body was dumped at sea.
A smallish RIB could be 10 miles offshore in 30 minutes, and the BLUE BAG dumped overboard into 100+ metres of water.
These phone records are really interesting. Especially Swansea. An MI5 intermediary? The PJ proved that nobody entered thru the bedroom window nor exited it. It had been opened only by Kate McCann (only her palm and finger prints were found on the window). All other doors were locked. There was therefore no 9 30 pm abduction. An abductor would have left footsteps traces on the bed and on the window sill in order to exit the bedroom window with a child. Nobody leaves their phones and children in an unlocked room. The sliding patio door was locked according to initial testimony. Amaral was all over this and he smelled a rat right from the beginning.
If you’ve ever lived in a building with these shutters you will know they are extremely noisy to open and close, your neighbours opening and closing them will wake you up. You’d hear it from the street.
Jerry's story told to the Portuguese Police and Hotel Manager immediately after the abduction that he "had closed the shutter after they had found Maddie missing and then gone out into the garden and checked if the shutters could be opened from the garden" also falls apart because his finger or hand prints were not found on either the inside or outside of the shutters nor anywhere on the outside walls or window frames.
She disappeared either April 29 or April 30. Everything after that is just a bunch of red herrings.
Thank you for your superb analyses. The most astonishing and troubling bit in all of this is that Madeleine cried FOR HER FATHER on the night of 1 May, for over an hour, and apparently just after her mother had been in the apartment. Why wouldn't a terrified child waking up without her parents in the dark cry for BOTH PARENTS? And imagine how horrible and traumatic it would have been for this child to have exhausted herself in tears for so long!
Gerry disposing of the room's fridge saying it was broken. Why wouldn't you just let reception know and they replace it?
We know why... Big red flag to anyone with half a brain. So much to consider in terms of guilty actions.. the only explanation for the lack of follow through on investigation is its been blocked by powerful people..government.
Yes- and not just disposing of the old fridge but replacing it with an identical new one. If it had stopped working you would inform the staff and expect them to replace it quickly.
What about the fridge who buys fridges on holiday for their holiday apartments
Overdosed , they got friends in high places , protected for life unlike maddie
Overdosed and or fell from the sofa or balcony
yep...simple as that
Freemasons
It would be interesting to know if these "Tapas 9" holiday people are still friends after all this time, and do they still hang out together. It would not be too hard to find out. This event would have put the relationships under enormous pressure if they were complicit.
Good question. We need a report on where they all are now.
Gerry and Kate are guilty with perverting the course of Justice!!
They need to be questioned on these facts again??? How come these monsters are still walking free?
And why would they ALL cover for the McCanns?? Surely one ir two must have felt a burden about keeping this secret? or were they ALL dosing up their kids?
I did read that none of the party are still in touch l.
G and are separated
The answer to this case will possibly be in the deleted text messages that Kate did on the Tuesday night..this is also the night Mrs Fenn heard crying for over an hour..This was the night of the Quiz when Gerry invited the Areobics woman to the table, if you read her statement it looks like Kate had stormed off and could have been in the apartment for 14 mins, ..so much more to look at on this particular night...brilliant video by the way.👏👏
Thank you so much! I also can't shake the feeling that something of real significance happened on the Tuesday night. I have no doubt those deleted texts and phone calls would reveal an awful lot.
@@dancingappaloosa8926 l 100% agree with you, it's the only night that makes any sense...l'm looking forward to the rest of your video's...just to add..your sound is fine my end.xx
Mrs Fenn was a set up.
She stated that she never made such comments. But it has been jumped on by fake news journalists
@@dancingappaloosa8926 As soon as I read Mrs Fenn's statement on the PJ Files, I knew in my gut that poor Maddie died in the apartment on that Tuesday night.
It has haunted me ever since. .
@dancingappaloosa8926 and of course deleted emails,texts and pictures etc can always be retrieved.
I’m a former police officer for around 10 years of my life. I have researched this case heavily. A few things of note to me are:
1. The parents seem to have a rehearsed simple story that does not match the physical evidence at scene of “alleged Kidnapping.”
2. The statements of both GM and KM are very strange at times. They have lacked the emotional response seen in so many of the grieving parents I have seen.
3. The dogs used were reported to be very well trained and experienced. If that kind of evidence was found for any common person who is a “player” in a disappearance. That person would normally be heavily investigated. Why aren’t the Mccanns?
This smells of a cover up. It reeks of political interference.
Thank you for your analysis here!
Spot on.
@@zr2jake Colin Sutton was warned off the case by a high ranking friend...what did this friend know ? who interfered with the Police ? who gave the orders that the Mccanns were not to be investigated ?.... smacks of a cover up.
Yes, it reeks of government interference - but why would the UK government get involved in such a cover-up of what seems almost certainly to have been some kind of heinous crime? Does it imply some kind of involvement? Was it to protect certain people, or certain people's reputations?😊
Did the McCann's use the hire car (they did 11k Km on it) to visit the body disposal site near the Spanish border. Was a blanket or clothing or items relating to Maddie put in the boot? Or was the body itself moved or put in the boot? We shall never know. All we do know is that those little dogs do not lie. Gerry said 'ask the dogs'. Well they were asked and they did answer. Loud and clear.
Any judge could have subpoenaed the actual phone call records. You can delete them but the calls are still available from the phone company in a civil or criminal case.
Yes
EXACTLY! 🎯 .
The PJ asked permission but were denied saying it’s an invasion of privacy (or along those lines) Absolutely crazy when dealing with a missing child.
@@ClaireRitson-i6fwhat a joke ! No GDPR protection when illegal debt collectors or credit reference agencies obtain your personal.data !
When the BBC support a story , believe the opposite !
Had Gerry met Robert Murat prior to the disappearance of Maddie? Gerry said "no comment" when asked directly at the time by a TV reporter. This seems very strange. If he had not met Murat, surely "no" would have been the simple answer. Why would he refuse to comment on something so simple and binary?
@davidpalk5010
I read on another channel and a comment from someone , that GM DID know RM.
In Amsterdam.
@@susandouglas4470 We will probably never know the truth. Powerful forces at work.
He was annoyed with being asked that question.....l mean they did attend the same golf club right ?
He loses his BAG and then his child! Could be coincidence
I believe the missing bag contained the child, who was then inserted into a 2nd bag, to transport the body. Once the disposal area was reached, the bag containing the child was removed from the outer bag, and disposed. The outer bag was then carried empty, and later used when the rental car was used. There had to be some bodily fluids in the missing blue bag that leaked onto to outer bag. That is why the dogs detected something in the rental car even days after the child went missing. That outer bag must have traces of bodily fluids left behind.
KM in her book was VERY disparaging of the Portuguese Police.
One Officer in the early days had actually invited G & K to his home for dinner. But later when she was being questioned thoroughly by this same Officer in the Station , she didn't like it AT ALL.
She said she was so annoyed with him that she called him an F......g Tosser !
Disgusting and especially for a religious Catholic woman.
I also wonder if GM kept travelling and flying to other countries to keep the Police off their tail?
To look good?
Or to salve a guilty conscience?
She also says that they try to get things taken off line and this includes Wikileaks and Utube.
They also sued newspapers etc for thousands of pounds , so did their friends and Robert Murat.
Disgusting.
bag child ,,,child bag ,,,bag bag bag cvhild child child ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,case solved 😏
I love your honesty and that you just report the facts. What’s wrong with receiving a phone call or text from Wales. It’s not illegal! Why are the Mc Canns denying things that actually happened?
The McCanns famously get very flustered any time they are presented with a fact that they have not been briefed or coached to talk about.
@@dancingappaloosa8926 yeah man x
The biggest red flag is the Conclusiveness from the first second! An unknown man had taken her. And every time she tells the story, it's word for word the same! And every parent would have all options open, did she went out herself, does she play a joke on them, whatever the worst and only option is what went straight through her mind. And they blame nobody except the unknown man. Not the hotel, not there friends it has to be one man!?
Deception detective said that exactly. It’s in the deception deck. Conclusivety ( spelt wrong I’m sure)
@@scarlettthebrave5854 thank you, English is not my language and i'm happy for every help instead of laughter❤️!
I really don't know who Gerry and kate are or who they know but I belive they have Jimmy Saville level protection and we won't know until they both have died
I read recently that Jimmy Savile was a visitor to Celtic Boys FC.
Did the McCanns know him?
G.McCann has many pea dohs in his circle of 'FRIENDS'
@@stevefowler3398 wouldn't surprise me
local people were out searching for her for several hours whilst the mcanns prepared their public relations strategy. the portugal police should have at least charged them with child neglect/abandonment.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen because Gordon Brown got involved so that the McCanns remained untouchable...
Gosh people can be fussy 😂 your sound has been just fine! Your natural way of presenting is great, and your genuine interest in what you do is clearly evident, keep going 😊❤
Thank you so much 😊 I appreciate your kind words.
Yes I agree. She is a natural speaker for sure. How she can talk for an hour or so, sorting so much information and detailed facts with hardly any slips and without refering to notes is a gift. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
@@dancingappaloosa8926None of your videos were too quiet on my phone, it must be their devices.
Or have noise in the background.
This evening, the sound is perfectly, clear, but when I asked if something could be done to improve it, it was impossible to hear and understand what was being said, or I would not have said a word. Nothing to do with being fussy. It is frustrating if one is unable to hear about such a fascinating topic! I believe someone else mentioned the same thing,
I don't believe the group maintained 15 minute checks accurately throughout the tapas bar evening.
Keep going. Everyone who has gone off the McCanns script has gotten the same shaming comment. You're speaking the truth, and that scares the crap out of the McCanns.
Thank you for this detailed & informative information…
This case has always angered me & still does today, why this pair got away with this I will never know & also profited from her wee girl, I pray one day Maddie shall get justice & they get jailed for long time… I personally can’t even bear to look at their faces… They obviously have friends in high places, & unfortunately for the Portuguese police who knew they were people of interest & were shot down…
Yes they certainly do have friends in high places. I believe even the Metropolitan Police have their hands tied. The Major of London has the power to sack the Met commissioner as I understand it. So the corruption goes right to the top ie. the government. If this issue could be addressed, maybe on this channel I would be interested to hear the findings.
Weren't they connected to Gordon Brown who became PM the month after Madeleine disappeared?
I feel exactly the same as you do 💯%.
MADDIE - IN - THE - SPORTS BAG!
Maddie died on the Sunday not the night claimed!
She fell off the settee and died from concussion, drugs, cold and blood loss.
The drunken parent's got back after midnight - the bar staff wanted to get home at midnight but had ot stay till 1am - and either didn't check on her before going to bed or did check only to find her cold and bleeding on the tiles under the window.
They quickly mopped up the blood and shoved the settee up against the window so the maid would see anything.
Then they spend some time washing the tiles, walls and curtains with bleach.
Kate McCann undressed Maddie from her pyjamas - 'THESE ARE THE PYJAMAS SHE WORE WHEN SHE WAS ABDUCTED??????? the abductor took time to undress Maddie?????????????????????????????? - then they put her naked little bleeding peeing little body in the missing pink baby blanket in the missing blue sports bag that GMcC claimed he never had and put it in the wardrobe in the parent's room and fetched one of the twin's cots to put against the door so no one including the maid would find the body.
After a few days she would begin to smell as her little bladder emptied and her sweat pores fermented to give the strong cadaver odour.
(Our entire skin has sweat pores that exude moisturising fluid to keep our skin supple which is why we all leave fingerprints and some idiots sit on car bonnets to make bum prints! This is why we stink on hot days and have to shower! An hour after death all that moisturiser starts decaying. When Harold Shipman was poisoning hundreds of women the funeral director called to houses to collect his victim's bodies noticed that many smelled fresh compared to the bodies they collected from hospitals and care homes where the person may have died during the night or an hour or more before being found, superiors were called and paperwork was done. He was smelling cadaver odour!!!!!!!!!!)
McCann arranged with his old pal Murat to store her in a freezer until they could safely dispose of her.
He was on his way to do that but his tennis friend Jez happened to come along so he put the bag on the ground where it seeped a little fluid that later the dog alerted to.
When Jez had gone McCann walked down the street to put the body in Murat's freezeer - Murat is in real estate so probably had a vacant apartment available nearby.
Then he got back to join the Tapas 7 as if nothing had happened. Payne and KMcC claimed to go check on Maddie only to yell 'They've take her. She's been abducted by someone who jemmied open the shutter and window!.
They had called a reporter at 8.30 that something big was going to happen and he drove 400 kilometres through the night to arrive in Praia at 1.30 at the height of the search to find the McCanns unconcernedly sat in the apartmentmaking the many phone calls to British politicians etc.
27 days later on hearing that the sniffer dogs were going to search 5A, McCann who was in USA flew home, rented the car, stuffed Maddie-In-The-Sports Bag in the spare tyre space where the dogs later alerted, drove hundreds of miles with KMcC, during which his mobile phone pings were tracked, disposed of Maddie in some water hole, well, reservoir, maybe the acid lakes of abandoned mining, and then came back to the apartment to learn the dogs had sniffed blood and cadaver fluids in the house and in the garden.
Then he smirked 'Find the body!'.
KMcC had handled the bag or may even had a last look at Maddie and some of the fluid dripped on her clothes to be later smelled by the dog.
As one or other of them handled the bag then used the key to start the car some cadaver fluid was transferred to the key to be found by the dog.
In the days of high publicity after the disappearance KmC showed distress but not because of a possible abduction but from a mother's natural grief at having to find a child dead and then cover up the death.
Over the years numerous body language and voice experts have analysed the McCann's every appearance and concluded that they are guilty of causing Maddie's death by drugging her with Calpol Night Mixture containing a sedative that was dangerous for children under 6 and they have disposed of her body so no trace remains.
If they did creep into the chuch where the dead woman lay in a coffin awaiting cremation and put Maddie in the problem comes from how did cadaver odour get in the car?
I still don’t understand how they react even if she died accidentally,these two just baffle me no emotions.
This is why they acted atypically for parents who just lost their child and can't find her.
When you do something illegal or bad and you don't want to look suspicious, you try to act as normal as possible. You do your routine, go jogging, play tennis, things you normally would do, because you don't want to jump out as suspicious. But parents who just lost their child and had nothing to do with it typically go nuts, knock on every door, they are desperate and most importantly their vacation is over. Over. Mccans thought proces was, we have nothing to hide, we did nothing wrong, why wouldn't we continue as normal if we are innocent, i will go play tennis, you will go jogging and act as normal.
I am sure, they had to be devastated, grieving, but they couldn't afford to show emotions for obvious reasons. Their atypical behavior gave them away. They forgot that they were supposed to be showing their feelings, even if all they felt was fear, still it would had been better.
The other option was unacceptable for them. Go to prison, lose the job, lose the image, lose the twins....
Still, i can't believe how selfish their position was to deny their family of a closure and deny their first born of a burial. Is this how little they loved her, cared for her.
They must be heartless just for not loving their child enough to bring her home where she belongs
l agree with what you said, but you can see early on Kate is devastated.
Is there any videos of Kate McCann crying?My son was lost for 20 minutes,when he was only 3 years old.I nearly lost my mind completely.I was blaming everyone in my head.20 minutes,and I thought my heart was going to explode out of my chest.
@@shelleysmart8938 blimey my nan used to watch that!!
That's awful beyond words that you lost your son 😢 😢 . You said for 20 yrs, did he come back ?
How can somebody say you’re taking advantage of this case, for monetary reasons, when the culprits have still not been caught.
Is it possible that David P called child abuse hotline to find out if there would be any legal repercussions for leaving their young children alone at night? Similarly, we’re the solicitor calls made because everyone was panicking about being found out they left their children under 5 alone?
It's hard to say, but certainly I think both phone calls indicate the McCanns (and possibly their friends as well) felt guilty about something and were concerned about the consequences. For me, what's interesting about the phone calls is the timing - mere hours after Madeleine was reported missing. Should they not still be too consumed with finding her at that point than trying to do damage control?
True, the timing doesn’t make sense. If they genuinely thought she was taken, they surely would not be even thinking about looking after themselves!
Very likely - all about damage control (for the 'club')
I used to live in Praia De Luz. Quite a few folks there think it was the parents.
I think we know who made millions out of Madeleine’s disappearance. It’s not the RUclipsrs doing what mainstream journalists should be doing.
A lot of people. Money is the reason it remains open as usual.
Enough to pay off a mortgage.
So True!! It's all a cover up! The most child abuse goes on in high government and the church!! They all cover for each other! Sigmund froid is where the McCanns had their parties after Maddie was reported missing!! I feel ashamed to be British! Instead of keep paying the McCann's to pay of there mortgage and hush money too, put the money into putting these murder's away for the rest of their lives! Justice for Maddie!! 😢
I completely agree; I believe as well that little Mad. was killed on Tuesday.
Apparently it was babysitting services available in the resort but the Mac. refused to use.
It was a nursery as well where the parents used this services to have some time free for them self’s and for the children to interact.. what they call; happy time..
Every time this services was used ; one of the parents need to sign the book to register the child in and out and the time as well.
The book was signed for Little Mad, but she was not there that day.
Gerry had a sports bag that he used to use to play Tennis, Gerry couldn’t explain where was that bag, (sadly disappeared.)
The bag that they used to transport the little body 😢.
They should have let Portuguese police( P. J.) to carry on, first they believe the parents but soon they realized it was many peace’s missing in the puzzle.
No prints , no where in the flat.
For some one who kidnapped a child ; can not fly.
Some where must be something.
The windows have blinds , more than one meter from the ground, no windy blowing that day etc. etc.
Right. The sign- in with no Maddy present ? Odd.
There are so many questions, but they don't have to legally answer, since they are not officially changed with anything.
Wait, wasn't she a doctor? One of my children I nicknamed named hurricane in my mind--she had crazy episodes and we had to endure them. We didn't know what to do. Ten years later, i still don't know how we survived that. But if it's true she was crying 18 hours a day... Look at the food. I works suspect severe food allergies that present in behavior rather than physical ills. If i had to do it over, I'd put my daughter on an elimination diet. I thought it was a bit new age at the time or exaggerated, but now i have a better understanding. Also, they have twins that are younger than Madeleine. My first born was thoroughly traumatized at another baby coming along. I just imagine twins being 100% harder for a toddler to adapt to. Any parent of twins will tell you two babies seems like ten as far as baby demands just going non stop. Madeleine could have felt utterly abandoned, through no fault of her parents. And then to have Madeleine still being a toddler, that's another baby. No one would judge a parent being over their limit. I had never heard about Madeleine's behavior. This truly is the first time i have ever been able to entertain something happening at the hands of the parents, or a bizarre accident. When my daughter had her episodes, I would hold her so she wouldn't throw herself down the stairs, she was that out of control. In my case, ironically, those evenings i just couldn't go on with my explosive daughter, i would think of all those poor parents in the world with a dead or a kidnapped child that would give anything for a moment i was having where they could hold and attempt to comfort their child. It's the very thing that got me through it. My baby is 15 now and delightful, moody teen, but delightful.
Thank you for sharing this. I found what you shared about your experience really poignant and moving. It's beautiful that you were able to put your daughter first and got through those difficult times by thinking of the many parents who would give anything just to be able to hold their children again. This kind of made me tear up and I really admire your approach!
You've raised a good point about Madeleine possibly feeling abandoned when the twins came along. I believe this is quite common for children around her age when they get siblings. One thing is for certain, Kate & Gerry certainly felt as if they had their hands full with these three children and things were not always rosy behind the scenes. Now, that doesn't mean that what happened to Madeleine was intentional or that they didn't feel pain and grief afterwards, but I simply do not believe theirs are the actions of parents who put their children first, not at all. Not the way you so obviously do with your daughter. I'm glad you are now enjoying being the mother of a delightful teen! 😊
Look up Peter Hyatt, he is a statement analyst. Watch what he has to say about the McCann case. - Very interesting! I watched it twice!
Why did they just not get a baby sitter,
@@nancyreid2416
I (and many of us) think that Madeleine died, in the appartment MUCH earlier in the week.
I believe that she died on APRIL 28th, and not on 3rd May.
So a babysitter would have seen immediately that there were only 2 babies in the appartment, instead of 3.
So a babysitter would have been a witness. Hence the made up story of checking every 15 minutes.
@@stevefowler3398 you could be right, all i think is the parents have got off with a terrible crime.
your videos & analysis are a breath of fresh air i haven't seen people cover this case this in depth and i can't wait for the next part!! keep up the great detective work
Why do the British Police not want to look into the parents so that if innocent they can be cleared and if guilty justice can be done. I have no problem with your sound at all. I have been attacked verbally for questioning aspects of the missing Madeline case. I think it’s important that the truth is unveiled as an innocent child is involved. I don’t know why but not many of those involved are transparent regarding what happened. Children, wife’s, husbands parents have come to harm and people who have done these things should not be permitted to just live their lives , as if nothing has been done.
It was always said that these most disgusting "parents" had friends in much higher places let's say... Which, in my opinion, is why they were never looked at 😢
The reason that the McCanns' friends, "the Tappas 9", were not transparent, and actively covered for the McCanns, should be fairly obvious. Several of them were doctors. Had the truth of what happened been revealed, the full extent of their child neglect and endangerment and possible use of controlled substances to sedate their children while they partied, would have become apparent. They probably all would lost their medical licenses permanently. Their very livelihoods, and financial security, were at stake.
Didn't one of the family in Scotland know Gordon Brown who became PM the month after.
Just to let you know the detective who was on the levi bellfied case was NOT allowed to... instructions from on high ! ..he eventually did not investigate the case ...
@@jackiescrystalmoonFREEMASONS AT WORK 😮
When you mentioned Swansea number I instantly thought maybe the poisons centre UK but any communication with them would have been very incriminating .
Interesting that Maddie cries for her dad not Kate
I thought so too😊
MAYBE she was a daddie's girl.
Maybe Kate McCann is mentally fragile and unstable?
PND? Menopause?
Maybe SHE killed Madeleine in a temper?
And MAYBE he is covering for her?
Yes. What was the mum doing to her at the time?
Doesn’t mean Gerry wasn’t responsible…or behaved inappropriately. Children trust their parents, abuse can be a normal part of little ones lives, they don’t understand what’s happening.
Could just be because Kate was always too invested in the twins (they need her attention more) and Maddie had got used to getting abit more attention from Gerry. Devils advocate.
Well if Maddie was a screamer for 18 hours either the parents lost their temper or injected her with a sedative but too much. Got scared because they'd be done for murder lose the twins and be put in prison. Lose their jobs so hid the body or the abductor would kill her. Accident I think maybe
Why go to such lengths to conceal an accident?
More likely S.A was involved and cover up because the police would found s.a evidence.
I always find it so difficult not to get angry whenever I think of this case - only victim in this case was Madeline McCann (possibly the younger twins too as im sure that they didn't get a chance at normal family life and also lost a sibling). It always makes me think of how different the search for Madeline was compared to Ben Needham - my heart will always feel for Bens family 💔
I love your podcasts on this, so detailed best ive seen so far as you go so deep addressing facts others avoid
Thank you so much for your kind words!
Sheila, Greetings from Ireland. Your videos are very well researched and have opened up so many cans of worms. There is no doubt the parents were involved in poor Maddies death. But when you examine the actions of David Payne,it takes on a whole new life. He seems to know of child abuse involving Maddie...this is really disturbing
Very well done and congratulations on so many new insights. To someone who said edit out the thousands of ems and ums, I found it so interesting I didn't notice them. To someone who quit after 6 minutes due to 'woffling' - that was just the preamble to a very good and well researched presentation.
Thanks for doing this one, I think it demonstrates quick self preservation behaviour by the group and gerry in particular. Love your use of the word Cunning.
Did you see the pyjamas sketch?
Bravo well done, keep up your good work, we need to keep this conversation going because truth will out! Eventually 👍🏼 l respect Richard D Hall too, he's a wealth of information on this case and many more 🕊️
I agree! Something tells me we might see this case solved in our lifetime.
This case drives me crazy! These two evil individuals have to go to prison. EVERYTHING points to them.
Thank You for your latest video, 😄
Fascinating & Informative!
I have always been under the impression that the parents were guilty, suspicious & very detached from the fact of what happened to their little girl 😭 They are guilty of so much! RIP LITTLE MADDIE 🙏🏻💔
Btw, sound is much better.
I believe she was sold to some rich people who wanted a child someone contacted a person to do this she most likely had a new identity in a different country
I think it's far worse than you say WHY TAKE THEM THERE
Thank you for name checking Richard D Hall, ive seen all of his videos on the Mcann case, and i agree with you, they're very in depth and fascinating. I'm new to your channel and enjoying it so far.
I have never heard the phone records being discussed…..this is very interesting, thank you. I have followed this case from the beginning and I worry the truth will never come out. Maddie looked like my eldest daughter to the extent it is uncanny. My daughter is much older but this case has haunted me. I worry they will pin this on Br
I have this gut feeling: If the McCanns hired a car 3 weeks, or whenever it was after after poor Madeleine died, and cadaver dogs on the car had picked up her scent, I suspect they were in a real hurry to hide and bury her forever, imagine if they had been caught? Hiding a body in a car would be a risky business. I suspect she is buried within a 10 - 15 mile radius of the resort. I suspect it's in a small town, with a maze, so as not to draw attention to themselves, possibly buried under a house. Just my gut feeling, It would be a place they have been back to a few times.
I'm with you this needs getting to the bottom of, the Macanns are obviously involved just to many inconsistencies, strange behaviours by the Parents and lies told by Gerry & Kate , if it wasn't for the fact they've friends in high places they would have been brought to justice years ago. Keep up the good work girl ❤
We need to keep pushing for the truth, its gone on far too long. Keep your discussion going. Thanks
Why would Kate and Gerry be phoning each other on the night of the disappearance if they were both in the apartment? The deleted calls were made around 11 Pm
Exactly... it makes you wonder whether maybe one of them wasn't there the whole time? Especially since the deleted calls were very close together
Also David Payne's odd calls - wasn't he the chap making creepy comments about children and "thumb sucking" that one of the group picked up on?
Probably HIM giving HER instructions.
If you want more info on the phone calls try Peter Scharrenbergs book ‘Maddie: The Shadow Investigation. It’s a great wee book. He also uses phone data to pin point a possible resting place for the child.
Great work by P. Scharrenberg! It's a shame the Portuguese authorities and police have caved into the British authorities and possibly, later that German prosecutor. And that the Portuguese police probably won't do a search of that Budens 1 remote area. No justice for MM!
WOW!
I don’t think the parents are inocent
If the parents haven't been investigated and charged, if guilty, or not, after all these years, they never will. Even after so many red flags, all we can do is speculate and go around in circles. :I think. The PJ police did all they could, even though they had never had a case like this, they were it seems just pushed aside, and the UK police took over. There are so many obvious inconsistencies. and things that don't don't add up.?.
Yes, you're right. The British police literally stormed the investigation and took over completely.
Stop this madness, parents are guilty , period. Its insane .
Have you watched James Bogart's 22 part series on Madeleine? It's excellent, especially because he only uses the available evidence from statements, dna etc. Definitely worth a watch.
First thing is the fact that all the couples were leaving the kids not just one or two. That to me is very strange. Why not bring the kids for a bit or get babysitters? Sounds like it was something they always did. Maybe this was a planned event if Madeline was already gone.Most family holidays abroad are centered on bringing your children with you. These couples weren't teenagers. Also the words of Gerry Mc Cann on the bus at the airport saying we are not here for a fing holiday. I just found this so strange to even say that and to curse in front of the kids. Also I always felt even though Robert Murat had cleared his name there was more to this part of the story. When Gerry was asked if he knew him beforehand he wouldn't say. Also the efits looking like the Podestas was that planted and when the woman efit came out they suggested it looked like Victoria Beckham how weird was that. Also how would the intruder get around the cots without waking the twins and know Madeline was in the other bed. To me it looked like Madeline hadn't slept in the bed. If it was cold the blankets would be up around her given Portugal gets cold at night. If it was warm she would of been wriggling in the bed. The bed looked very uncreased. Also if your going abroad you usually use a safe to store your passport and camera. There's were strewn around the table in the pictures. Also if they had mobiles why didn't Kate ring them in the tapas bar from the room. If you knew there was an intruder why chance leaving the twins again even for 10 mins. Also if you were a Dr you'd protect the scene and forensics. Why take the cat? If it was an intruder wouldn't they take something to help her calm down if they were going to keep her alive. Seems strange if you were kidnapping kids you wouldn't take all the kids.
I had no idea about the calls - thanks. Could listen to your voice all day, so therapeutic ❤
Thanks so much!
I too like her voice!
Hi from Scotland! Wow girl, U have done ur homework. Well done. This is all very interesting. The McCanns are guilty of “something”. They are so dodgy. And they just don’t act the way parents of missing children act, if that makes sense! I hope we get to the bottom of this tragedy eventually. Keep up the good work 👏❤️
Regarding the map and photos: could they be location photos of Maddies grave - just as Moor Murderers Brady and Hindley posed looking down at the ground where they had buried their victims
I’ve watched/read quite a bit on this case, but you’ve covered some blatant anomalies here that I’d either forgotten or never knew to begin with.
I’d love to see someone tackle the evidence that supports the abduction theory.
Very short video.
Blink and you’ll miss it.
I'm hoping to explain why the abduction theory holds little water in my next video. Thanks for watching!
Simple there's ZERO evidence there was an abduction. McCanns have covered up a lot which is very suspicious.
@@dancingappaloosa8926 Looking forward to that. In my opinion the only 'evidence' Madeleine was abducted is the McCanns say she was
Thankyou you are so professional and very informative on this case a lot in this video people would not have heard before thanks again.
The dates were -: in my opinion
April 28th 2007 Saturday arrival at Praia
April 29th 2007 Sunday - only sunny day
April 30th 2007 Monday - day Dr payne mumbled he'd seen Maddie at the glass patio doors at around 5.30 with Kate. But long standing friend eiuld lie for them- untrustworthy
May 1st 2007 Tuesday (i think the day killed)
Also placed in the capacious sports bag that Gerry denied having, but some people saw him with it, so I think for two days she was put in the sports bag and placed in the wardrobe in the McCanns bedroom which Eddie & Keela alerted to.
May 2nd 2007 Wednesday poss date moved Maddie - still in bag
May 3rd 2007 Thursday (the newly put out date she had disappeared!)
Giving them time to concoct a timeline which they rewrote three times.
Peace out ☮️🇬🇧
This explains why the parents did not want a babysitter or creche facility that night!
@chrisynorman: First: great respect to Richard Hall for keeping up this good work.
April 30 and May 1 are important dates in some so called religions. That is where my mind goes.
Scary: but these important days may give the answer. Why the trip was made at all. Illuminating?
I remember seeing a piece of a homemade movie.
At the start of the holiday Gerry replies to one of the Tapas (on the bus to Praia)..Tapa : 'Cheer up man'.
Gerry; 'No... I am not looking forward for this..etc. . What did Mc.Cann refer to?
Was there a certain plan to be carried out that Gerry MC was not going to enjoy? An assignment?
Also..according some (real) early holidaymakers at the Ocean club...there were more Tapas.
About 8 more? Were they never questioned?
And why did these gloomy medics (with very young children) come to Praia at all?
Off season: max 18c at noon/.13/14C at night = chilly/ Tapas trip 2007 had one day with sun. Cold winds.
The Algarve borders the ocean so the seawater is cool 17/18C) too and it is often windy in April. At the coast.
Also: what an accident that nanny Charlotte Pennington (an acquaintance of Kate) worked in the (almost empty) Ocean Club creche. Arrived the same day as the Tapas. April 28th 2007. Maybe even on the same plane.
Keep the faith.
. Very good point! Plus, why did they both lie about they unlocked patio door and say they both entered through the locked front door? Plus, why tell the silly " window wide upon with curtains blowing" when Kate was checking the room, which alerted her to a problem. If the bedroom door had been left slightly ajar so the kid's room was not totally dark because a light outside the room was on - why then shut the door? If the wind on that cold evening had been blowing into the room for minutes - the temperature of the room and door handle would be noticeable cool to Kate. Even the coolness of the entire apt. would have been detected as Kate entered theough the patio door. But, the open window story was untrue as it was found shut and the blind closed and locked by the police. Why was Kate's satisfied with the baby check until this door slammed and then really looked into the room and realized MM was not there? Why did that not wake the twins?
If the window was wide open, the normal reaction would be to run outside using the front door and see if there is evidence - a step stool/ blanket/ tools/ footmarks that lead in a direction or even MM herself?
If the window was closed and locked - the normal reaction would be to check under the bed or the bathroom or the parent's bedroom and then every other hiding place in the unit. Then search the exterior outside the patio door to see if MM had gone outside. Maybe phone the police before running back to get Gerry and the others. Both the parents lied to the Guidos but when did they have time to agree to the lie? It seems it was before they arrived at the Tapas bar. Before 8PM they both agreed to unlock the patio door but say they used the locked front door. Both agreed to the open window lie. Then, both made phone calls home instead of searching for MM and lied to each person. Then Kate refused to answer basic questions asked by the police that would help in the search for MM. My theory is the MM ingested drugs that the parents had left out thinking it was candy ( Valium/cocaine?) and died. The parents hid her body under the living room sofa so the twins would not see her body, then concocked the silly abduction story. Jerry could have put MM's body in his tennis bag and "relocated" it. It is interesting that neither parent believes MM was " taken" by a person who wanted a living child to raise as their own especially a " beautiful" blond girl. I could go on...
I'm a big supporter of "amateur" creators on RUclips, and it's so much more work than many people think. I've wanted to make videos on social norms and political ideology, but it's intimidating. I'm also a fan of Richard Hall, and it was the Madeline McCann docs he made that introduced me to his work.
I've never detected so many accents in one person. I usually pride myself on being able to detect where people are from. 🤔 I thought I heard Australian, South African, Irish, Liverpool, and possibly Non English European.The more I listened , the more I thought I heard. Wow. Great video though
If she was a screamer someone would've heard her with the abductor as she'd scream then aswell
Not in a hut 3k away.
I hope you do more of these close looks at similar cases in the future! It was an aspect I hadnt seen covered before! It sure brought in alot of viewers.
You go girl 🎉 I absolutely enjoyed watching this video 👍🏻 not only for the interesting aspects but also for your positive appearance and talented presentation 🤗 looking forward for more content from your channel about the Maddie case. Great job 👏! By the way: I totally agree with your personal opinion. Did you watch the interviews with Peter Hyatt yet? Best wishes from Austria, Nina
P.S.: I would love to know the gps data from the rental car the Mc Cann’s hired after the disappearance of Madeleine…🤔
I dont no why your posts and research does not get more attention ive always been i ntruged by the mcann case and the tapas 7
Maybe because the creator is very unprofessional in calling Richard D Hall out, since he's spent years on the case, and backs up his claims; her self aggrandizement shows a level of conceit that is breathtaking; furthermore, he doesn't bore us to tears for nearly ten minutes before getting down to the nitty gritty, about commenters who don't like what he is doing. It's incredibly unprofessional, and narcissistic to insinnuate that some other creator who has spent years, more than this creator has, trying to uproot the truth beyond the McCann's lies. Who does she think she is to suggest that she is knows better than Richard what happened?
What was the rules against wearing watches or bringing mobile phones when out for drinks and tapas.
Payne phoned child abuse line on the 4th after being in the police station all day. Probably trying to make sure he and his wife were not likely to get prosecuted for leaving the kids alone. Wanted to know where he stood.
Absolutely fascinating video. I study body language and have my own opinions as to Kate and Jerry’s involvement. Thank you so much for an informative and very interesting video.
Why were the deleted calls not retrieved from ICloud ?
This happened in 2007, i cloud was introduced in 2011
If I were at a holiday resort I'd go to or call reception if a child were continuously crying.
Yes me too. What's interesting is that Pamela Fenn didn't even go to the police with her statement about a child crying until 3 months later, apparently because she didn't want to upset the parents...
You are correct, Mrs. Fenn could have called the Resort, or the Police, about a child crying for so long. Mrs. Fenn has since passed away, so we don't know if she informed anyone or not.
@@sjordan7085except Mrs Fenn stated on camera that she made no such statements as to hearing a child crying.
It was a total fabrication by Mitchell's controlled media dog.
And if it did happen, how would Mrs Fenn know just WHICH child was crying?
@@dancingappaloosa8926 Yet the PJ files record every detail Mrs Fenn said about hearing the child crying.
@@dancingappaloosa8926 Perhaps Mrs Fenn was paid off?
I find that it always turns back to the parents
Did Kate & Gerry use their own phones when they called family and friends in the UK to tell them a made up story about Madeleine being abducted?
We don't know for certain as the PJ were never able to get their hands on detailed records from the mobile service providers. They applied to Court for this but the request was denied on privacy grounds. It seems as though Kate & Gerry sometimes used their own phones and sometimes used those of their friends and pay-as-you-go disposable phone numbers too.
How about the relatives phones records?
@@dancingappaloosa8926 Correct. they couldn't obtain detailed records however they knew the McCaans were being deceitful solely because both Gerry & Kate deleted their phone call history over the time of the so-called abduction. This was revealed when Kate forgot to delete one phone call to Gerry, showing as a call made (duration not sure, but in the PC files) and his phone showed no record of the call.
Well they’d collectively left their kids alone - that’s neglect - kids could’ve been taken into care.
At the VERY least, why not have a baby monitor in the room?
Is it at all possible that the Tappas7 and the Mccanns are a Coven??
That was a great analysis of all the phone calls and messages. Yes, very suspicious. Why would you delete so many messages the day your daughter goes missing? Of course they killed her or had something to do with her death.
This is such an interesting video! I would have loved to have tabs for different sections to be able to go back through it
They were falsified Kates name was spelt wrongly and thus obviously filled in by someone else. Two days early in week maddie was not seen no on remebers seeing her. Meals were taken to the flat with Kate and Gerry. Arrying the twin to their apartment. No sign of maddie. That gave Gerry & Kate two days to work out a plan. So no one would see what they were doing ...time to cover their tracks. They never joined the others for lunch etc. Peace ☮️ out SW England 🇬🇧
Listening to the video & reading the transcript, I am now 35 minutes in, where KM received a Swansea landline call. Insp Diaz seems to have accepted it as a 'wrong number'. Since KM didn't delete it along with all the other calls she did delete, you say it must have been of significance to her. So by whom & why was that Swansea landline called back later - from Luz and from a UK mob not connected to any of the McCanns' tapas group.
I think it was not a wrong number, that KM herself called it back and took the crafty precaution of using a UK mob belonging to someone unconnected (unsuspecting) to her and her tapas friends.
Investigation should be carried out into whose phone the unconnected UK mob was, were they aware of who made the call to Swansea on it, & most significantly who owned & answered the Swansea landline.
Thanks for your comment! I do go into that call a little more later in the video. It seems as though the Portuguese police tried to follow up the Swansea number, as well as the UK mobile which was in contact with it, but received no cooperation from the British authorities. I'm not sure how fully either side has investigated it though...
@dancingappaloosa8926 Thanks for your response. Another 'tell' that the UK authorities don't want to clarify the Swansea call. You are doing good work on this case. I plan to listen & read the next half-hour very closely. I found your 4th video, but when I finish this 3rd one, shall look for the first two, to follow your line of thought. I may or may not have come across Richard C Hall's work on this case, can't remember. But I tend not to take much notice now of anything over a year old, ie. prior to the German suspect. Now I can see he may well be a red herring. My earliest reactions were that the McCs were fishy - as if a caring mother would wash their missing child's cuddle toy.
For what it's worth I was married to a Portuguese so lived there (Lisbon & in the countryside near Porto for some years). They're not fools & would of course have been suspicious of parents leaving children & their valuables in a holiday apartment, unlocked & out of sight.
BTW too, I picked up a book on children 'used & abused' in Dickens' day, written by a woman who was one of the McC's tapas group; curious that, I thought. ☘️
@@ddempsey9642would you have the exact name of the book and author? Thanks
@janinedevilliers510 I'll have a look for it tho may be a few days yet as I've got lots of bks & not all fully sorted...not sure where I picked it up but I think a 'one-off' tho in new condition so prob an end of line. I'll look for it in internet in case that helps.
This is very interesting evidence I had not come across before. However I do wish Dancing Apaloosa would stick to using the 24 hours clock - she is swapping between using the 12 hour one and the 24 hour one - eg one does not know whether 1045 means morning or night time. There are many examples of this. All in all though very interesting stuff
Great video, very interesting and new stuff I've never thought about. Are you from SA? I'm original from Zim and your accent is very similar to mine.
These two spent more time using their phones than they did with their children.
These two DEFINITELY are suspicious.
That location could it be at the reservoir, where someone had done a shrine to Maddie found by a couple who reported it.
Wow! That was good information I hadnt heard about before.
This is superb. How is content like this here, yet YT recommends me an endless stream of rubbish?! Subbed and going to watch your catalog :) Thank you!