I raced way back in the day before scrubs and whips, what I see in Haiden the most is his body control, nobody does it like he does. Amazing, so awesome to see!!!
Not to sound like that guy, but I’m really not surprised if you watched the Vlogs back when he was on supermini’s. The skill level at the top is really close, but the kid has always had the mentality to win and is ultra competitive, and those are the qualities it takes to crush your competitors at the top.
with jett i’m not surprised at anything he does, with haiden it’s different because i didn’t grow up watching him as a kid(i’m 20), i only started watching him like 2 or 3 ish years ago, the progression has been unreal, hope his style translates more to sx also, so he can win that title too
I agree with what you said. I think Adam was saying it’s surprising because of the crowds around the trucks. He had fans amateur races but it’s on another level with the pro race schedule.
It blows my mind when people say “they didn’t know” he’d be this good. THEY LITERALLY DOCUMENTED THE WHOLE PROCESS. They documented all the work, all practice, travel, training the gave all of us the road map. He was literally a monster as a mini rider. How could you say you didn’t know he was going to be this good😂.
Mike Tyson said "everybody has a plan until they get hit". Many racers are great until they get hurt. Haiden seems to be able to ride another level without getting hurt. It appears that he can consistently do that.
@@djc7039you are correct he is pushing the envelope and has not had a big crash and gets muckled. But yea he is fast but he is going on his 3rd year and only has a outdoor championship. No one has had a chance to win a smx titles in the past so you can't compare that to other past greats.
Duff said he didn't know shit about the bike like what he preferred he was just like give me the bike and ill go race and win on it, that's the mindset of a champion,
Well Deegan hasn't changed. He just rolls. He's tomac level and tomac only goes beast mode totally dialed. This is an aussie respecting Deegan. He gets heat because he's the heat.
Knowing what you want comes with a ton of time testing different options . Coming up sure he would have had good stuff but might not have had a bunch of choices with things especially with ktm they probably go here this is what's best and that's it
I just wanted to tell you I really enjoy your show,I have been watching for awhile now and I have never made a comment but today I just feel like I have to give you props for all the work you put in. Please keep doing what your doing we love it. Thank you
I had no doubt in Deegs ability. People online said he's going to be another Mike Allisse and I would say he's going to win races not in SX but in MX he is going to win in his first year and won 2 races and SMX Championship. I've been following mx since 73 and sx since 77 and Deegs since he was 10 and I can pick a winner and I knew since the first day I watched him do a back flip I started following him. My thoughts were this kid is going to be a championship rider at a young age when he goes pro.
following the Deegan channel since Haiden did the back flip. i saw him sporadically get into beast mode in races... because we got see all the races it was easy to see when he got turned on. But he couldn't consistently bring it and definitely not on demand. But he always rode hard. What we're seeing now is him having learned how to control it like a superhero learning how to use his powers and I don't think he's close to peaking (bar injury) It has been a lot of fun to watch his progression.
@ashtonwakkinen9874 😆 What are you taking? Nobody is beyond what RC had. Absolutely, nobody. But Deegan seems to be the closest I've seen to RC. All you guys baptizing the next guys as the best ever BEFORE they even get to the big bike class or only after a couple of years. Their body of work is miniscule compared to RC's & RC retired 3-4 years early!!
@ashtonwakkinen9874 Again, you're wrong. The last 3 years of the 450 class has never been so weak. The 450's of RC & Prime Stewart era were way more powerful & brutal. The tracks were also WAAAAAY faster as they weren't tilled as deep. The deep tilling they started doing was to slow them down. It also ruins race quality as there are only a few lines. As far as Deegam, I'm a fan 100% but he hasn't even gotten to the 450 class yet. I think he's gonna be one of the top dudes when he does though. But to think these guys (as a group) are faster than the guys of years past, you're dead wring on that. Prime Stewart, Villipoto & Tomac smoke the Lawrence boys & Sexton. Prime RC smokes them ALL & twice on Saturdays.
@@keithpeterson6108 🤣 might have felt more prime because it’s what you grew up on, I grew up on it, but statistics show the kids these days are way more faster and competitive giving what we have
Haiden is Brian's revenge in a way. Brian wasn't given a chance and he's fast and now his son is so over the top good at moto, its funny. I would have rooted for him even if he wasn't doing well but I think its like all pro sports where they are all good and it comes down to the mind game. Plus he has JESUS's favor- I believe.
Dude, when you have a guest on you gotta let the guest speak. Drives me crazy how much you talk when you have somebody there that’s ready to spill some good information and you cut them off.
I hope he stays on the 250 for as long as he can. They are going to 450 so early now. You mentioned jett got on a 450 at 19. Ktm in mxgp announced today that lucas coenen will be with them on a 450 for 2025, and he's only 17!!
So everytime the greats get spoken about reed is not mentioned much.. remember all the guys you mentioned reed won against and titles against... just my observation.. loving the content
I think we have to sit here and slow down with deegan. Jett had an injury, learned from it and came back to put a terror on people. He stayed relatively injury free for a while and for as fast as these two are that’s rare. Forkner and AC were supposed to be generational but injuries caught them. All I’m saying is wait for the accomplishments to come and don’t expect them. I see Jett being able to beat Ricky’s all time wins in motocross and pass tomac up for second all time wins in SX but it’s a lot of years and racing to go.
Feel like deep down Adam feels a lot of envy toward deegs. Deegs is becoming everything ac was supposed to. Saying it will get harder almost seemed a bit like that was just what he’s hoping haha
You’re misunderstanding what Adam meant. He’s saying deegan is so good already and it’s only going to get harder to beat him. He was speaking to deegans competition
They need to get AC in the booth full time with Stew and Weig. No shade on RC, lots of love and respect, but he's not the best commentator for the job. Jett vs Haiden battles are on the horizon, and as long as they stay healthy, God willing, we may be entering one of greatest era's in MX history! 👊🤘
I have the luxury of being able to load up some RUclips & let it play all day while I work in my shop & that FUTURES race was just a ""RACING INCEDENT"" as they say because after watching him run down ANY/ALL of the latest crop of top kids in the pipeline at the races during his last few ""NON-PRO"" seasons & I had friends calling BS when I mentioned how FAST & GOOD he is, was & will be, just take a look & don't worry about that lil ditty at Anaheim. I wish I could have been taking odd's & bets because that would be a bonus payout to go along with getting to watch him at the same time!!!
Ive watched his RUclips since he was younger and i always thought he would be special ..idk but i think he will find a way to beat jett..thats looking like his motivation now?
Tiger Woods was the game’s evolution of course he wouldn’t win as much in the field of new golfers he created. You drop the all time motorcross guys into days field today they wouldn’t be as dominant. That’s normal sports progression over time.
@@Carpfishing4400 yeah I saw that too. It’s a pity he didn’t win sx this year then he would have only had next year in 250’s and had to move to 450’s in 2026
@@robsouth4051 he's been a pro for 2 years. There really is no need for him to move up so quickly. Hes still a kid at the end of the day. Just enjoy watching the rides in the 250 class. He'll move up when the times right. They've never rushed anything throughout his career so far in amateurs or pro so it won't start now just to put him on a 450
@@Carpfishing4400 yeah I know they’ll take it slow and do it the right way like Brian has always ensured. I’m just keen for the Jett v Haiden to start haha
Ac is a legendary character him self man glad yo stuck around after retirement brotha good to see you
I raced way back in the day before scrubs and whips, what I see in Haiden the most is his body control, nobody does it like he does. Amazing, so awesome to see!!!
What really solidified it for me was he had a ride at mini os from last to first on a hammered track and in the dark pretty much
Underrated ride, knew he was ready too.
Not to sound like that guy, but I’m really not surprised if you watched the Vlogs back when he was on supermini’s. The skill level at the top is really close, but the kid has always had the mentality to win and is ultra competitive, and those are the qualities it takes to crush your competitors at the top.
with jett i’m not surprised at anything he does, with haiden it’s different because i didn’t grow up watching him as a kid(i’m 20), i only started watching him like 2 or 3 ish years ago, the progression has been unreal, hope his style translates more to sx also, so he can win that title too
I watch Deegs since his on 65.. the mentally what he had before and fine way to win is the same.. he don't want to lose every race.
I agree with what you said. I think Adam was saying it’s surprising because of the crowds around the trucks. He had fans amateur races but it’s on another level with the pro race schedule.
Yep he is locked in mentally, he ripped the 450 at mini O’s too, the kid is aggressive and very solid.
@@ST-0056 Yep
It blows my mind when people say “they didn’t know” he’d be this good. THEY LITERALLY DOCUMENTED THE WHOLE PROCESS. They documented all the work, all practice, travel, training the gave all of us the road map. He was literally a monster as a mini rider. How could you say you didn’t know he was going to be this good😂.
Dudes are out of touch makes me not trust their prospective
Mike Tyson said "everybody has a plan until they get hit". Many racers are great until they get hurt. Haiden seems to be able to ride another level without getting hurt. It appears that he can consistently do that.
Doesn’t always translate though
@@djc7039you are correct he is pushing the envelope and has not had a big crash and gets muckled. But yea he is fast but he is going on his 3rd year and only has a outdoor championship. No one has had a chance to win a smx titles in the past so you can't compare that to other past greats.
@@denniswilder3014He has had a few big get offs this season and got up everytime unscathed. He is conditioned really well and is a beast!
So grateful to get AC on the broadcast!!
Duff said he didn't know shit about the bike like what he preferred he was just like give me the bike and ill go race and win on it, that's the mindset of a champion,
Well Deegan hasn't changed. He just rolls. He's tomac level and tomac only goes beast mode totally dialed. This is an aussie respecting Deegan. He gets heat because he's the heat.
Knowing what you want comes with a ton of time testing different options . Coming up sure he would have had good stuff but might not have had a bunch of choices with things especially with ktm they probably go here this is what's best and that's it
Great to see AC! Thank you!
I just wanted to tell you I really enjoy your show,I have been watching for awhile now and I have never made a comment but today I just feel like I have to give you props for all the work you put in. Please keep doing what your doing we love it. Thank you
I had no doubt in Deegs ability. People online said he's going to be another Mike Allisse and I would say he's going to win races not in SX but in MX he is going to win in his first year and won 2 races and SMX Championship. I've been following mx since 73 and sx since 77 and Deegs since he was 10 and I can pick a winner and I knew since the first day I watched him do a back flip I started following him. My thoughts were this kid is going to be a championship rider at a young age when he goes pro.
@@slayer6936 meat rider
following the Deegan channel since Haiden did the back flip. i saw him sporadically get into beast mode in races... because we got see all the races it was easy to see when he got turned on. But he couldn't consistently bring it and definitely not on demand. But he always rode hard. What we're seeing now is him having learned how to control it like a superhero learning how to use his powers and I don't think he's close to peaking (bar injury) It has been a lot of fun to watch his progression.
I love your podcast...just honest.its a breath of fresh air.
Deegan has that RC mentality.
Definitely above and beyond rc
@ashtonwakkinen9874
😆 What are you taking?
Nobody is beyond what RC had. Absolutely, nobody. But Deegan seems to be the closest I've seen to RC.
All you guys baptizing the next guys as the best ever BEFORE they even get to the big bike class or only after a couple of years. Their body of work is miniscule compared to RC's & RC retired 3-4 years early!!
@@keithpeterson6108 you’re comparing about a decade of competition to faster bikes, more riders and far more better riders
@ashtonwakkinen9874
Again, you're wrong. The last 3 years of the 450 class has never been so weak. The 450's of RC & Prime Stewart era were way more powerful & brutal. The tracks were also WAAAAAY faster as they weren't tilled as deep. The deep tilling they started doing was to slow them down. It also ruins race quality as there are only a few lines. As far as Deegam, I'm a fan 100% but he hasn't even gotten to the 450 class yet. I think he's gonna be one of the top dudes when he does though. But to think these guys (as a group) are faster than the guys of years past, you're dead wring on that. Prime Stewart, Villipoto & Tomac smoke the Lawrence boys & Sexton. Prime RC smokes them ALL & twice on Saturdays.
@@keithpeterson6108 🤣 might have felt more prime because it’s what you grew up on, I grew up on it, but statistics show the kids these days are way more faster and competitive giving what we have
True fans knew what he was capable of
Haiden is Brian's revenge in a way. Brian wasn't given a chance and he's fast and now his son is so over the top good at moto, its funny. I would have rooted for him even if he wasn't doing well but I think its like all pro sports where they are all good and it comes down to the mind game.
Plus he has JESUS's favor- I believe.
AC is clueless prime example !
Good man to show MC his praise 👍
Respect to both imagine Yamaha's Bob Hannah vs Yamaha's Haiden Deegan . Both ride the Bike to its limit ripping around the Track..
Dude, when you have a guest on you gotta let the guest speak. Drives me crazy how much you talk when you have somebody there that’s ready to spill some good information and you cut them off.
Hahaha I noticed that also
Cry about it nicca
I hope he stays on the 250 for as long as he can. They are going to 450 so early now. You mentioned jett got on a 450 at 19. Ktm in mxgp announced today that lucas coenen will be with them on a 450 for 2025, and he's only 17!!
People can say whatever they want, that kid puts in the work…no amount of privilege can replace that.
On a Side Note, Due to Hurricane Milton, the schedule has been revised
Gatorback- Oct. 19-20
So everytime the greats get spoken about reed is not mentioned much.. remember all the guys you mentioned reed won against and titles against... just my observation.. loving the content
Put the Whoops back in and the dragon backs
I think we have to sit here and slow down with deegan. Jett had an injury, learned from it and came back to put a terror on people. He stayed relatively injury free for a while and for as fast as these two are that’s rare. Forkner and AC were supposed to be generational but injuries caught them. All I’m saying is wait for the accomplishments to come and don’t expect them. I see Jett being able to beat Ricky’s all time wins in motocross and pass tomac up for second all time wins in SX but it’s a lot of years and racing to go.
Feel like deep down Adam feels a lot of envy toward deegs. Deegs is becoming everything ac was supposed to. Saying it will get harder almost seemed a bit like that was just what he’s hoping haha
You’re misunderstanding what Adam meant. He’s saying deegan is so good already and it’s only going to get harder to beat him. He was speaking to deegans competition
Well said AC is clueless everyone kisses his Ass, everyone on pulp except for Jason weigent hate on him , but it’s enve
They need to get AC in the booth full time with Stew and Weig. No shade on RC, lots of love and respect, but he's not the best commentator for the job.
Jett vs Haiden battles are on the horizon, and as long as they stay healthy, God willing, we may be entering one of greatest era's in MX history! 👊🤘
you should bring adam on as cohost for new series
AC has his own podcast
I have the luxury of being able to load up some RUclips & let it play all day while I work in my shop & that FUTURES race was just a ""RACING INCEDENT"" as they say because after watching him run down ANY/ALL of the latest crop of top kids in the pipeline at the races during his last few ""NON-PRO"" seasons & I had friends calling BS when I mentioned how FAST & GOOD he is, was & will be, just take a look & don't worry about that lil ditty at Anaheim. I wish I could have been taking odd's & bets because that would be a bonus payout to go along with getting to watch him at the same time!!!
Ive watched his RUclips since he was younger and i always thought he would be special ..idk but i think he will find a way to beat jett..thats looking like his motivation now?
I love AC, but does he not look like Phillip Fry from Futurama?!
His wrist was feeln better at Salt Lake. He had steel put in it and never stopped racing.
And the kids not even fully polished yet. Still learning.
I wonder how much Deegan in the thumb nail moves the needle on these videos compared to others……. 📈 🧐🤓
Adam does not get the respect he deserves imho. his come up was in a different time.
He has one legit title in two years.
He’s won two SMX title, an outdoors on a f’up wrist. Come on. The kid is tough and getting faster.
So did Jett .....
And you have 1 brain cell...
Tiger Woods was the game’s evolution of course he wouldn’t win as much in the field of new golfers he created. You drop the all time motorcross guys into days field today they wouldn’t be as dominant. That’s normal sports progression over time.
Hopefully Haiden dominates sx, dominates mx, then doesn’t stick around for a year to defend sx and moves to 450’s instead
He's already said himself that he wants to defend titles in the class. And wants to stack up the money and trophies
@@Carpfishing4400 yeah I saw that too. It’s a pity he didn’t win sx this year then he would have only had next year in 250’s and had to move to 450’s in 2026
@@robsouth4051 he's been a pro for 2 years. There really is no need for him to move up so quickly. Hes still a kid at the end of the day. Just enjoy watching the rides in the 250 class. He'll move up when the times right. They've never rushed anything throughout his career so far in amateurs or pro so it won't start now just to put him on a 450
@@Carpfishing4400 yeah I know they’ll take it slow and do it the right way like Brian has always ensured. I’m just keen for the Jett v Haiden to start haha
2026 or 2027.
Then AC gets on pulp and takes cheap shots at the Deegans.