What non-guitarists THINK is hard to play (and what ACTUALLY is)
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"Look at that guitarist's smooth, effortless change of positions through transitions" - said no non-guitarist ever
“Look at those cool inversions”
Free bird!
If you change hand position properly...it is almost like you have done nothing whatsoever (and people then wonder where all of the transient tones, overtones and added timbre came from?)
"Said no one ever" is a fallacy. Nobody actually says "said no one ever", it is always in text.
@@6079SmithW-lr5zx That is true.
After playing guitar for years I can say the hardest thing is playing an entire song all the way through. Now imagine playing an entire song every other night for a year on tour. Musicians amaze me. I don’t think I could do it.
bro what
Anything you practice to able eventually becomes second nature, musicians play their songs so many times it becomes very easy to play through them. Memorizing entire songs may be hard for beginners, but there are songs and songs too. I guess it's hard to memorize something by Steve Vai or John petrucci but come on, you can say it's hard to play 10 smoke on the water equivalent backing guitar parts in a row
Makes it a little easier when you're the person who wrote the song and/or created the guitar parts so they are natural for you. Somebody like Kiko must have it tough to have to play Marty's solos every night, although he seems to kill it every night.
do it. pick a song that you can kinda play and learn the whole thing. you will see where you're lacking in tempo, structure, knowledge, etc. it will highlight where you suck. and later, do it without looking at the notes and without a backing track, just metronome.
@@SDesWriter As a guy in a cover band, absolutely! Of course if it's perfect or not to the album doesn't matter, hell even major tribute bands, play the songs "wrong." I just adapt parts to my style if needed. Turns out the phrase "close enough for rock n roll" absolutely works lol.
Playing cleanly, smoothly and in time is always impressive regardless of what technique you are doing.
agreed
That's all non-players really want.
My favorite part is where you said "It doesn't have to be hard to be good". Some of the simplest riffs are often the best.
That’s the key though, making the easy look/sound hard. I am an intermediate player, at best, but I constantly amaze my singer by not looking at runs and trills. When I explain to him that the pattern is from memory (both mental and muscle) and that’s why I don’t have to look, he’s still amazed. Yet when me and the other guitar player are in sync playing the chords…he’s not impressed. I explain to him that keeping time with the chord changes is much more difficult than picking random notes, but he’s still not getting.
It doesn’t deter us from trying to get our playing tighter and making the music sound as good as it can be.🤘🏻❤️🎶
That’s because what do you call a guy that hangs around a bunch of musicians?
A singer.
i think that's why everyone should learn the basics of at least 2 instruments. a singer is so removed from what the rest of the band is doing sometimes because their "instrument" is an entirely different physical thing.
100%. Nothing bothers me more than playing sloppy. Even if I hit one note wrong, I have to start the song or run over again until it's airtight.
@@dragonfx310 one note is kind of extreme for me. We all make mistakes, sometimes they’re happy ones.😁
@@dragonfx310 a professional guitaris, what im saying, a legendary guitarist once said'' if you make a mistake, and redo all the time the same mistake, this is not mistke anymore, its the way you are playing this song, which is perfectly fine. This guy was steve vai
Hey Tyler can you make a video about the best songs to learn to for a specific thing, like for alternate picking, bending, etc...
Love your videos dude!
Yes that would be awesome!
For bending learn some pink floyd song😂
The guy who made me hit a brick wall and have to upgrade my alternate picking skills was Zakk Wylde
What is alternate picking? I thought that was just one form of doubletime(or high tempo)....
Pick a string. UpDown(repeat) (edit: or downUp)
Now do a scale.
Then crosspick a chord.
The logic is simple. The muscle memory takes time.
Great idea!
The song I learned that finally got me to alternate pick was Cardinals by The Wonder Years. I'd been playing for a decade and just got really good at fast down strokes. Made a lot of songs sound heavier lol
I love that song
The interlude part in cigarettes and saints is the most satisfying thing I’ve ever learned how to play on guitar. I highly recommend learning it if you haven’t
@@andrewoswald7184 fucking love that one too. The entire interlude so beautiful to listen to and is the perfect build up for the outro
Hell yeah love a Wonder Years shout-out
Haven’t watched your vids in ages, good to see our boi in shape
Here’s the hardest thing for every guitarist: to play something in perfect rhythm without a drummer or a click. Guitarists get so caught up in their technique, but try to pretend that rhythm is not a part of technique.
I will see that PRS in my dreams tonight!!! 11/10
Fun Fact: That F#7/11 chord is the Alex Lifeson chord from “Hemispheres.”
Keeping time and noticing chord changes are ongoing struggles for me. I thought runs were difficult purely from a visual standpoint by watching other guitarists, but once I practiced it consistently, it was a lot easier than I originally assumed.
Right now, I'm working on bending and while it's a difficult technique to do properly, I'm having so much fun learning it. Fast bends, slow bends, the pressure you have to apply for the note to sound just right. I love the nuances of it.
The fretboard on that pink PRS is exquisite
Killer Kiesel. I own 6 and have a build in the oven. I got a Black Friday Pick your Top. I scored an awesome burl walnut top going on a Zeus with walnut body with 5 piece walnut/Purple Heart neck and with their new multiscale trem. I’m excited for this build and can’t wait for the next.
Awsome! We newbies need more of this.
This all depends on how you learn, I am still terrible at clean tapping but have been able to play complex arpeggio and palm mute/more syncopated rythmn techniques for decades, whereas I had friends that could shred but could barely strum wonderwall. I also agree that sixteenths with no breaks is a full workout.
Just mute with your tapping hand?
As a beginner, yes; bar cords are for beginners as it's a fundamental shape for many genres. I have a small issue with them due to a broken index. If you can't play them, practice more. Or figure out an alternative fingering if you've got more severe nerve damage. an uncle of mine gave up guitar when he lost his index and middle fingers on his fretting hand because he couldn't bar anymore. But I've seen amazing players (much better than most) with just 2 fingers and hardy a right hand to pick with. Just depends on how much time you are willing to devote to music.
As a beginner bar chords basically let you play along with anything. When I was first learning, my dad would play with a lot of really talented musicians, and once I had the ability to at least just sit there and bang out chords at will, I got to play with people way out of my depth and learned a lot.
I mean there're also plenty of songs that don't require bar chords, especially with the help of a capo. But I certainly admit that I'm just lazy 😂
This video is way fun, good vibes, thanks for sharing!
Wha? Bending sharp sounds amazing!!! It's got that old school blues slide feel to it
Always first class video. I wish theres one on Blackmore
Angus plays the full D with his thumb playing the F#. Ace Freily did the same, as did Brian May. Worth learning. I never struggled with For Whom the Bell Tolls. Different strokes I guess
I'm a cellist who's interested in guitars (mainly bass, i play double bass as well), and so much of this also holds up for cello. everyone loves the fancy runs, especially if they're blisteringly quick, but the hardest thing I have ever played is the 2nd movement from J C Bach's (Not J S Bach, this is one of his sons lol) Cello concerto in C. It's slow, exposed, and haunting. The runs are the easiest part. The hard part is being consistent in sound production, staying in tempo, and staying in tune (really hard slow parts with a bunch of double flats. sounds beautiful, but a pain).
Hey I’m a cellist too! If you’re interested in guitars, I definitely recommend trying them out, it’s very fun! Well have a great day
Albert Lee did amazing echo/delay live and studio. Great Video here.
As a Rush fan, I know the 7/11 chord as the Hemispheres chord
I loved the slide hand harmonic thing! Edge of 17 reminded me of Paul McCartney talking about John on "All my Lovin' "John strumming de na de na de na na na na nat" Paul said"Try doin that for 3 minutes " and shook his wrist. Hearts Barracuda is close but it's galloping so you can rest in between a bit. Keith Richards uses open tunings more than anyone. It's not cheating if it serves the songs!
Tyler, your friend taps like me . Holds both sides of the fretboard. I suck by comparison but still cool to have confirmation. 2 of the best pieces of advice I got as a newbie were "let go of one chord before when changing chords" and "Pick both ways" so I've been alternate picking from the start. Now I need to get my fingers around efficiency picking. Barre chords were hard cuz I learned on acoustic (2 yrs of playing Black Dog acoustically! Easier on electric 🤣 ) This was fun guy's!✌️🎸🎶🙏
I'd watch alot more of this dou
I didn't really listen to what he said, i just been watching these two play, so wholesome
Palm muting comes natural to us metal heads but its definitely not as easy as it looks specially at high speeds when you have to keep it tight and not muddy
I tore a tendon in my finger recently and lost a lot of progress. Decided to relearn lefty and took a lot of this for granted. Good lesson guys!
damn... that's ambitious! Good on ya and to your full recovery. My friends would ask me silly questions kids ask eachother back in the day... if you had to lose a limb which would you pick... I always said my leg just because I play the guitar and piano. Damn... but I play the drums too... THIS QUESTION... it plagues me.
@@vikingghost117 i will say this i can still play rhythm fine but any chord or lead playing that requires a lot of my ring finger is really rough. That finger just gets so tired and tender quick. I was trying to sweep pick and that just went straight out the window lol. My goal is to get to it in 10 years so we shall see lol
Tyler, you should play that pink private stock more often. That’s probably my favorite guitar of yours. It’s gorgeous
I've played guitar for like 13 years, I've stopped playing for around 4 years one time and it was enough to lose some skills like sweep picking, but boy am I glad I focused primarily on rhythm and consistency for the basics, those skills have never abandoned me and Ive seen soooo many skilled guitarrists who can shred and sweep and whatever but can't keep a simple backing with a small off-beat on time for an entire song like I do every gig playing in a tool cover band, and I'm very proud of that every time someone who I consider to play much better than me comes up and says they think I'm great and what I do is hard in their eyes.
Nowadays the hardest thing I can think of doing with a guitar are those crazy specific skills like doing selective alternate picking that's different for whatever form you're playing naturally, man that's damn hard.
53 and just learning it is all difficult.
Fun to see you dudes choppinitup
The thing I find the hardest to do is to keep a steady rhythm going with the thumb on the low E while picking lead notes on the higher strings with your other fingers.
Saw an interview with Waddy, he said Edge of 17 was trouble only as the first song in the set before his hands were really warmed up.
I like that rhythm. It could be a really heavy song, if it was arranged a bit differently.
It’s guitar driven, but the guitars are still restrained compared with her vocal.
I wouldn’t want to start a set with that either. It’s a weird song, to start a set with.
Although, in a cover band, what is or isn’t a good opener is subjective. Depends on if the band wants to build it up slow, or has a packed house, and they want to hit them like a freight train.
About tapping, just "plugging" it into a solo is challenging, unless it's planned and you know the lick already. Descending tapping is more difficult because the 2nd finger has to come down before the tapping finger. Mostly what I think is difficult usually involves improvisation and speeding up, but when you practice anything long enough it becomes easier. Sweep picking will take me some more years to master.
That Keisel looks so good! Also his PRS is beautiful
I wanna have a conversation with you ❤
which PRS model is it?
I never practiced tapping enough, so for me that is more difficult than bending half, whole, or two whole notes. It really depends what you practice more. In fact, you can check out Tim Henson doing bends (Bohemian Rhapsody solo) and he doesn’t get them right. But we can all agree the guy is a virtuoso
He's not into the boomer bends
@@joshshultz1250 he played the songs and didn't get them right. That isn't a matter of not being into the boomer bends.
Everyone always says For Whom the Bell Tolls is an easy song, and it is, but that lick always feels weird. Glad it isn’t supposed to be a piece of cake!
no but this is so real sometimes i think about how i could be a drummer but i feel like if i had to do a consistent simple beat for like five minutes i would lose track and get in my own head
hardest thing I ever had to do for my old band was playing The Police - Every Breath You Take
and no one was getting why I was saying it was hard ^^
Mr. Brightside by The Killers is difficult for a similar reason, and while it has some slightly funkier chords than Every Breath You Take it still doesn't sound/look that difficult to a non-guitarist.
every wrist you break
That's the most beautiful PRS I've ever seen 😮
I grew up idolizing Angus Young & SRV so my bends are good! I take a lot of pride in my pitch-correct bends.
I’m still bad at guitar so it’s not a brag but bending was literally never an issue for me starting to learn. I don’t have perfect pitch either. I had the finger strength already. I started sharp and learned really quickly to mimic bends pretty much starting with the opening lick to black magic woman
My hardest thing was following the beat properly and tempo, cause when I started learning I practiced without a metronome. Huge mistake.
That delay techique was *not* invented by The Edge...In 1976 the Canadian band FM's electric manolin player Jeff Plewman (stage name Nash the Slash) used that technique on a number songs on FM's first album, Black Noise. It featured prominently in the first single from the album "Phasors on Stun". Plewman was invited by Gary Numan to tour the UK as his support act in 1980 and 1981, and subsequently played on Numan's 1981 LP Dance. He also toured Europe with The Tubes.
Man ... that PRS is gorgeous.
Most difficult thing for guitarists EVER: Not playing when they are supposed to be silent.
Yes, you can see them twitching in agony!!🤣I NEED TO PLAYYYYY!
And a variation on that that I HATE in my playing is striking an ‘indexing’ pickup note before the phrase - if you know what I mean - in time and in key but the stupid note IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. Some of the greatest lead lines breath with rests/ties too.
hardest part for me is keeping time, man.. i think im a spaz.
"we're you rushing or dragging?"👏
😭 rushing 😭
4:09 please call it by it's real name. It's the Alex Lifeson Chord. See the opening track on the album Hemispheres from 1978.
In a short 40 years from now, I can see these two still chewin the cud over music. Rock on!
For Whom the Bell Tolls was also my first alternative picking lick. Played it for four months straight.
4:03 or barred C shapes. definitely a new challenge when learning Michelle without a capo
Man, I love that Kiesel guitar
The Back in Black lick is easy but hard. I can play the notes but I just don't have that "je ne sais quoi". It's th timing and that little swing in the barely perceptible bend. I just can't do it. Same goes for Spirit of Radio. It's fairly easy but the timing makes it or breaks it. Can't do it... (not to my satisfaction anyway)
Life in the Fast Lane is the hardest thing I ever gave up on trying to play. It's really hard!
I had a guitar teacher who was hell bent on getting me to play Back in Black, but I could never get it down in a way that sounded quite right. The components were all there, but it just never had that "feeling" to it. Ultimately I realized it was because I just don't really like ACDC.
For all its simplicity, that lick is a great example of Young's ability to express himself through his guitar. Its all about voicing what Pat Finnerty calls "scumbagginess" - a real swagger and machismo, and if you ain't feeling it, you ain't sounding it.
I believe Finnerty offered QOTSA's "No One Knows" as the gold standard of "scumbag rock". Of course, Josh Homme and Nick Oliveri are horrible people, so it's fitting they wear the scumbag crown.
Works the same way with classical guitar
When I played that I would pick the flashy but simple stuff to play for friends
Some of the hardest stuff I learned sounded the simplest
And then when playing electric guitar, I found the same thing happened
I learned how to tap before I could even play a chord. I also learned how to make a bunch of noises with it before I could play. Some were similar to Tom from Rage's guitar noises.
When you get a guitar before internet, with no book, lessons, or friends to teach you.
Bending into tune. Those 2-string arpeggios Yngwie does on the B and E strings…that’s my Achilles’ Heel.
Nice to know I’m not the only one who struggles with that “easy” for whom the bell tolls lick
I laughed when you recreated the "bubble" technique that got some traction a while back, even in Guitar World.
Nice to see the private stock get used for once. Eye candy
Tyler, the scar and the bling is making you look more and more like the guitar villain within. Have you given any thoughts towards bringing back that series? Maybe revisit some guests to get an update on them. Peace man
That prs is so beautiful, I want it. GIVE IT TO ME!
Tyler's tone here is 🔥, what would be the signal path for it?
I think sweeping kicks my a%%. Also... I don't know the proper term for this but when you hit a string with your pick and you slightly touch it with your thumb (on the same hand holding the pick) at the same time, and it makes the coolest natural distortion harmonic kind of sound. You can do it on an accoustic guitar. WHAT IS THAT CALLED!!!
Anyway I saw this guy doing sweeps while adding those distortion picks and bends in the mix and it is to this day the coolest flashy thing I've ever seen/heard.
Good show guys. Definitely subscribing.
It's a pinch harmonic when you do it on a specific note and it's a natural harmonic when you do it on an open string.
Love the chemistry between you two. Can we get links to the other gentleman?
It's @dredimura
While I agree that good bendings are not the easiest thing to do, I don't think bending slightly sharp is necessarily worse than flat. It's a matter of context, and "overbending" can sometime add emphasis and expression to a solo, especially in Blues and Rock. Even "wrong" notes can sound good, if they are meant to be there and people can feel that in your playing.
I'm going to pretend I never tried that F add 9 bar chord and found it very difficult...
But anyways, I want to add one thing to "sounds easy", but actually "most hardest thing on guitar" : buttery smooth finger-bend tremolos. I want to add that tremolo bending need not be "in key" really at all, as long as it flows in rhythm. I've been following a lot of Brandon Ellis guitar playing lately (best tremolo in the world) and he advocates just bend to what sounds good (in tremolos) because if it's always in perfect key it starts to sound computer-y. Try to learn one Brandon Ellis solo guys, even the easiest one, I dare you. :)
Tough guitar technique tier list:
S. Alternate picking
A. Legato
B. Sweep
C. Tapping
D. Acoustic arpeggio
F. Chords
5:24 im stealing this
Cool man
Like the first part of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. It's so slow and methodical, it's actually extremely difficult to keep time. Everything in your soul wants to play faster, which is why most cover videos on the internet only play the last/fun part.
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2:37 hit some Brian May there 😆
I’d love to see you try your hand at playing some of the stuff by Berried Alive.
Honestly, these days I tend to be impressed whenever something is cleanly played and fluidly executed.
I started with my cousin teaching me Wasted Years on one of Van Halen's blak Kramers he bought at an auction.
I'm predominantly a lead guitar player but I find rhythm guitar actually really difficult. What impresses me is a sense rhythm (and timing) naturally. It's about the cadence, the stamina. The rhyrhm in Van Halen's The One, for example, is one track which impresses me greatly.
I find rhythm easier, a guy I spoke with said the same thing as you. My timing got much better after starting to play some drums, both EVH and Nuno Bettencourt started as drummers.
I love that the "Edge of Seventeen" riff lasted so long that I got an ad break.
Subliminal Hetfield? I feel manipulated 😁. The little pull-up flourish in the tapping was actually inspirational, gonna steal that once I get the hang of it. Thanks!
I stopped bending a long time ago, if I am really warmed up and I guess it's somehow called for it seems to just happen, without effort. Not that often though. Idk i guess that's why I stopped bending years ago or stopped practicing at least
Playing live, I have experienced the "Thunderstruck" or "Master of Puppets" riff still elevates you to a lord with the common crowd.
Those are the two coolest guitars I have seen.
I like that you broke out the Kiesel again. :-)
the ring wants to be found...it's heard its master's call
The Edge capitalized the delay sound but they got it from Pink Floyd, specifically Take it Back off the Division Bell album.
Uh - dude - U2 had released 9 albums before the Division Bell even came out...
Do you mean Run Like Hell?
@@ericjenkins2737 That was my thinking! Though The Wall was 1979, and I think U2 existed before that even?
To me - he kind of started defining his sound with Unforgettable Fire, still one of my favorites. And it is more than just the dotted 8th modulated delay. He is very compositional in his approach like my favorite guitarists.@@2760ade
What are the delay settings at around (6:40) into this video? Really awesome!
The delay part reminded me of the start of He Man Woman Hater by Extreme. I remember someone doing a video showing that without delay 😂
“Flight of the Wounded Bumble Bee,” yes! Without delay, impossible to play. With delay, so ridiculously easy I’m almost ashamed of Nuno for composing something almost anyone can play! 😂
*YES*
Totally agree
I just started playing guitar. Everything is difficult
The part of highway to hell at the beginning, that's pretty close to what I (think) I hear on the album, except I'm certain he uses his thumb, as do I when I play it.
I’ve been playing guitar for over 15 years when I first started I picked up bending within the span of two tries but I just have a good ear for it. I guess in contrast to this, I still can’t do tapping to save my life.
I've always had a problem with finger-tapping in which I occasionally semi-mute the pull off, thanks to fat fingers, I guess.
Barre chord man I don't sweat em, even with my smaller hands cause I play 8's... and I only wish I did it from the start!
As someone who wants to get INTO guitar, and has a PRS/SE, I have… no goddamn clue where to start and am already discouraged.
2:33 mmmmm.... that tone!
Honest question; What would you recommend someone like me who has been playing for nearly 20 years but doesn't really feel like I've improved from the basic solos and tapping? I find it really hard to learn a new technique when I've been playing for so long. I haven't learned sweep picking and honestly my alternate picking has kinda gone away lol
I hate bending, but it sounds so good....
I need to force myself to do it.
That's the biggest thing that's stopped me from going from a riff machine, to a shredder.
Hey what is that black button with the purple ring on the Kiesel? That guitar is fn beautiful but I'm confused as to what that is