@@andreymavian3400if it was a bug than it would have been fully fixed within two months of lightfall drop, this has been something titans have done for a long time now, it’s just a question of buff and debuff stacking, will it get nerfed, probably, is it fair to call it a bug when Bungie knew full well what would happen, no
@@queueeeee9000the oracles during the atheon boss fight need to be shot in a specific order that your teammates call out, otherwise you wipe. By destroying the three oracles together, it circumvents the need for callouts, making the run to damage phase solo completely possible
Bungie: TITAN GRAPPLE MELEE IS TOO STRONG also bungie: hunters grapple meleeing raid bosses to death? Yeah that’s cool Jokes aside though, great job man, this takes a ton of skill to do
the hunter build is super niche, if ads don't want to cooperate with you then the build just isn't good. stop acting like titan wasn't broken, especially considering it was 20x more consistent and versatile than hunter build
Okay waht exactly are you doing and why are you doing it? Whats the stasis crystal for, how do you get the right order of oracles, why the quick leaving and reentering the portal and why the finisher? I think thats all i didnt get xD good work man
it all relies on not getting “Lost In Time” which occurs when nobody is alive in the main boss room for 2 seconds and results in a wipe. after doing the finisher while getting teleported, the game thinks you’re in the main room wherever you would have returned to after the finisher (on the Mars plate), so you don’t get Lost In Time. If you move (or even have your feet shuffle bc you look to the side) the game refreshes your position and realizes you’re not in the overworld which gives you Lost In Time. When it’s time to exit, you have to leave in under 2 seconds, hence the skate. Even after going back to the main room this mechanic still applies in Mars, hence the in-and-out when shooting 3rd oracles. Because I can’t move while in Mars, the stasis crystal moves the relic backwards when I drop it. otherwise it would block my view when shooting oracles. If you break all 3 oracles at around the same time you don’t actually need to know the order (timed using 2 delayed projectiles and a hit-scan bow shot). I do read the 3rd set using either vision or sound so I am able to shoot those in order. Everything I explained was found by the solo raids community, not me. The strategy is meant for Warlock (I have that posted as well), but I added a few small changes to make it viable on hunter.
The hitbox of the relic is massive so the stasis crystal is used to force the relic to drop behind you. that way you can shoot oracles without being blocked by the relic. it looks so goofy but it works
Does this still work and if so i cant get it too work like the grapple melee is just so inconsisted in the air sometimes i just punch is there anyway to get around this. goated video btw :))
thanks! it should still work, yes. To get the actual grapple melee animation instead of the regular melee you need a little bit of momentum. best way to do this is by grappling at an angle (90 degrees to the side, straight up in the air, etc) and by backing up after each melee to get a little distance between you and the boss.
How did your punch do so much damage? How do you know the order of oracles, And how the hell did you get so much super energy and keep ur super what the hell😂. I need some explaining
I’ve already explained the mechanics in a few other comments, so check those if curious. As for damage, Atheon is super weak to ability damage (3-4x multiplier iirc), so stack that on top of the Stylish Executioner build and you can 3 shot him. For super energy, there’s a raid mod that gives you super energy when breaking oracles that stacks higher the more copies you have equipped. With 3-4 copies you can get full super from one set of oracles
I’m just wondering how come you weren’t able to 1 phase it? It looked like you maybe could have gotten a few grapple melee’s in but idk if that’s like mechanics or something?
Stylish Executioner gives a hidden 3x buff to melee damage. I’m triggering it through the tether when I proc my one-two punch on the boss, so it requires that an ad is in the tether. I’m mostly just waiting for an ad to walk into the tether so I can attack again. It is definitely possible to 1 phase, and you can actually do so in 3 melees if you start with Radiant applied, but you’d need really good luck with the ads walking into the tether. imo it was easier to take the safe 2 phase so I opted for that
It’s definitely possible, just not easy. you’d need a very specific ad lineup and a bit of luck for atheon to stay in tether with his annoying new pathing. you can actually 3 shot if you start with radiant, but getting 3 separate ads to walk into tether while still keeping 2 near for synthos proc felt near impossible. for reference, I made around 50-60 damage phases and never got that setup solo :/ But I’m sure some of the solo goats could cook up a consistent 1 phase strat if they tried
How are you able to so consistently get the grapple melee to hit like that? When i use it against the first boss of war lords ruin it’s not reliable at all.
if you’re struggling to get the grapple melee animation and are punching/knifing instead, try placing the grapple point high in the air or far off to the side so you’re able to build momentum before punching. If you’re getting good grapple melees but not getting chunks, make sure there’s an enemy (other than boss) in your tether that will die to the shotgun shot, and make sure you grapple very fast after shooting so that you get invis DURING the grapple, which is what gives u the 3x dmg multiplier.
it still counts if you break all 3 oracles at around the same time. I use this for sets 1 and 2, then I read the 3rd set since I’m back in the overworld. gl on the lowmans
“Time’s Vengeance” gives you fast super energy regen and chunks of grenade energy, which scale with your base stats and a few other buffs. So with Time’s Vengeance, 100 disc, and HoIL class item it’s almost instantly back. The warlock strategy works the same way so you can spam Verity’s Brow buffed nades
it’s possible, just not probable. I need a new ad in the tether each time I melee to get a huge chunk like that, so I opted for a safe 2 phase instead of praying for the lucky 1 phase. would have been a million times cooler as a 1 phase tho
have explained the solo mechanics in a few other comments, so check those if curious. not sure what “normally” means in this context, but it’s replicable as long as ads are near the boss. Atheon takes extra ability damage (3-4x multiplier iirc), so that stacked with the Stylish Executioner build is able to 3 shot him
mostly normal. main changes are interact and grenade as mouse buttons, q and c for the melees, and 4 for inventory with 5 rebound to be left arrow key (for faster loadout swaps). almost everything else is unchanged
For sure. If you can get radiant beforehand I’m pretty sure you can kill in 3 grapple melees. Just need a ton of luck with ads moving into the tether. I tried experimenting with killing the plate ads beforehand and having them respawn during DPS but had no luck. If you get ads to respawn the 1 phase should actually be pretty easy. I would consider hunting it but the eager glitch is mostly patched :(
if you break all three at around the same time you don’t need to read. I do this for sets 1 and 2, then read the third set normally since i’m back in the main room
The “Time’s Vengeance” buff that you get during DPS gives you increased super and grenade regen that scale based on your Int and Disc. So with 100 disc, Time’s Vengeance, and an Inmost class item you almost instantly get grapple back
the stylish executioner build doesn’t work like that. you don’t spam the grapple melee, instead you have to wait for an ad to enter the tether to get a chunk. it is possible to 1 phase, just very unlikely
There’s tutorials out and the only difference really is the skate with the relic and damage phase but there’s tutorials for the stylish executioner grapple damage and you just ground skate with the relic since you can apply eager edge to relics now and they get pre nerf eager
Poor Atheon is being treated as a lost sector boss 😂
Honestly since d1 🤣🤣
Nowadays he is
Exactly, there’s no more respect
This right here is why I love Destiny 2 so much. So many intricate builds, steps, multitasking, executions going on. Very great video.
While I share your point of view in general, this video is a terrible example of that because it's only possible due to a bug.
Intricate is a little too complimentary.
@@andreymavian3400? so what, game gives you lemons you make lemonade
@@andreymavian3400if it was a bug than it would have been fully fixed within two months of lightfall drop, this has been something titans have done for a long time now, it’s just a question of buff and debuff stacking, will it get nerfed, probably, is it fair to call it a bug when Bungie knew full well what would happen, no
Only viable on PC.
My uneducated ass thought you rng the oracles. The skill of timing them altogether is insanely cool.
I've only run VoG a few times and still don't quite understand the mechanics of the oracles spawning.
What's the purpose of timing them together?
@@queueeeee9000the oracles during the atheon boss fight need to be shot in a specific order that your teammates call out, otherwise you wipe. By destroying the three oracles together, it circumvents the need for callouts, making the run to damage phase solo completely possible
Shoutout balls
pouring honey on you my goat balls#3650
the stylish executioner aspect
could not even edge to this masterpiece! had to spray immediately!!
Solo atheon in 4 melees
buff hunter ong. making this the title
Technically 5
@herov2 the title does specify grapple melee
@@peewee-zs5qz I've changed the title since then
The amount of skill this takes is unbelievable. Great jon
Yeah great jon
jon
Good job jon
Synthocepts and glaives made funny numbers and that wasn't ok, BUT THIS... THIS is PROOF that we should nerf ward of dawn again.
Facts
True. It's just outclassing well and song flame so much
The shooting the orbs out of the sky with the STL scout just looked so sick to me idk why lol
really oreo :D
damn this is op, *nerf titan*
😂
Bungie: TITAN GRAPPLE MELEE IS TOO STRONG
also bungie: hunters grapple meleeing raid bosses to death? Yeah that’s cool
Jokes aside though, great job man, this takes a ton of skill to do
god this type of shit is so cool, love seeing lowman raid content :D gg on the clear
Thats insane
Great jon man
let me know if you find this jon guy I’ve been hearing a lot of good stuff about him
I helped this man btw 💀
the Lotrue carry
Bungie be like : duly noted; nerf titans
That was prettt impressive.
I'm so glad they nerfed grapple and berserker on Titan it was definitely the Titan that made it broken.
None the less great run though
the hunter build is super niche, if ads don't want to cooperate with you then the build just isn't good. stop acting like titan wasn't broken, especially considering it was 20x more consistent and versatile than hunter build
Holy damage, Batman!
Very cool, good job man
Dim is being weird and not showing the class item roll for me, what roll did you use for damage?
Synthos + Spirit of Inmost Light. It’s possible with any Synthos roll but you may need a grapple point
@@Slommy_ gotcha gotcha, might need to finally get the strand trace catalyst just for this lol
thats crazy, well played
Okay waht exactly are you doing and why are you doing it? Whats the stasis crystal for, how do you get the right order of oracles, why the quick leaving and reentering the portal and why the finisher? I think thats all i didnt get xD good work man
it all relies on not getting “Lost In Time” which occurs when nobody is alive in the main boss room for 2 seconds and results in a wipe. after doing the finisher while getting teleported, the game thinks you’re in the main room wherever you would have returned to after the finisher (on the Mars plate), so you don’t get Lost In Time. If you move (or even have your feet shuffle bc you look to the side) the game refreshes your position and realizes you’re not in the overworld which gives you Lost In Time. When it’s time to exit, you have to leave in under 2 seconds, hence the skate. Even after going back to the main room this mechanic still applies in Mars, hence the in-and-out when shooting 3rd oracles.
Because I can’t move while in Mars, the stasis crystal moves the relic backwards when I drop it. otherwise it would block my view when shooting oracles.
If you break all 3 oracles at around the same time you don’t actually need to know the order (timed using 2 delayed projectiles and a hit-scan bow shot). I do read the 3rd set using either vision or sound so I am able to shoot those in order.
Everything I explained was found by the solo raids community, not me. The strategy is meant for Warlock (I have that posted as well), but I added a few small changes to make it viable on hunter.
@@Slommy_ damn Dude impressive Shit. GGs to that solo atheon looked realy nice
I’m not familiar with solo strats, what’s the point of the stasis crystal before killing each round of oracles? Awesome job!
It’s to move the Aegis away from you when you drop it so you can have a clear shot on the oracles. (Otherwise, it blocks you)
makes relic drop away from you so you can shoot oracles without it being in the way
The hitbox of the relic is massive so the stasis crystal is used to force the relic to drop behind you. that way you can shoot oracles without being blocked by the relic. it looks so goofy but it works
Ok cool, thanks!
it causes the relic to drop a little away from you so that it doesn't obstruct your view on the oracles
Stylish execution!
What's the roll on the class item? Awesome video, bro.
thanks, it’s HoIL + Synthos
First hunter solo
cade would be proud
4 grapple melees and a sword swing
Atheon just got cooked by balls solo
How do you manage 999,999 damage from a single melee?
Grapple melee damage buff stacking. Ehroar has a good video explaining the build, posted around 2 weeks ago
One time i joined an lfg of vog and i asked if they wanted me to do a role and the dude just said “nah, trust” and basically soloed the whole thing 😂
Does this still work and if so i cant get it too work like the grapple melee is just so inconsisted in the air sometimes i just punch is there anyway to get around this. goated video btw :))
thanks! it should still work, yes. To get the actual grapple melee animation instead of the regular melee you need a little bit of momentum. best way to do this is by grappling at an angle (90 degrees to the side, straight up in the air, etc) and by backing up after each melee to get a little distance between you and the boss.
How did you know which oracles to shoot?
breaking all 3 at the same time counts as breaking them all in order. I use a delayed rocket + gl + bow to break them at the same time
How did your punch do so much damage? How do you know the order of oracles, And how the hell did you get so much super energy and keep ur super what the hell😂. I need some explaining
I’ve already explained the mechanics in a few other comments, so check those if curious. As for damage, Atheon is super weak to ability damage (3-4x multiplier iirc), so stack that on top of the Stylish Executioner build and you can 3 shot him. For super energy, there’s a raid mod that gives you super energy when breaking oracles that stacks higher the more copies you have equipped. With 3-4 copies you can get full super from one set of oracles
this is fucking insane, gg
I’m just wondering how come you weren’t able to 1 phase it? It looked like you maybe could have gotten a few grapple melee’s in but idk if that’s like mechanics or something?
Stylish Executioner gives a hidden 3x buff to melee damage. I’m triggering it through the tether when I proc my one-two punch on the boss, so it requires that an ad is in the tether. I’m mostly just waiting for an ad to walk into the tether so I can attack again. It is definitely possible to 1 phase, and you can actually do so in 3 melees if you start with Radiant applied, but you’d need really good luck with the ads walking into the tether. imo it was easier to take the safe 2 phase so I opted for that
How easy u think 1 phase would be? I still havent messed around with hunter stuff this dlc yet
It’s definitely possible, just not easy. you’d need a very specific ad lineup and a bit of luck for atheon to stay in tether with his annoying new pathing. you can actually 3 shot if you start with radiant, but getting 3 separate ads to walk into tether while still keeping 2 near for synthos proc felt near impossible. for reference, I made around 50-60 damage phases and never got that setup solo :/ But I’m sure some of the solo goats could cook up a consistent 1 phase strat if they tried
Goated
How are you able to so consistently get the grapple melee to hit like that? When i use it against the first boss of war lords ruin it’s not reliable at all.
if you’re struggling to get the grapple melee animation and are punching/knifing instead, try placing the grapple point high in the air or far off to the side so you’re able to build momentum before punching. If you’re getting good grapple melees but not getting chunks, make sure there’s an enemy (other than boss) in your tether that will die to the shotgun shot, and make sure you grapple very fast after shooting so that you get invis DURING the grapple, which is what gives u the 3x dmg multiplier.
I didn't even know this was able to be completed solo let a lone 2 phase it lmao
Build vid?
How tf u physically do that kuch damage
a couple punches 👍
Bro how’d you know the oracle’s pattern on mars??
Breaking all 3 at around the same time counts as correct pattern
hi newby to low mans and challegnes, how the hell did you guess the oracles???
it still counts if you break all 3 oracles at around the same time. I use this for sets 1 and 2, then I read the 3rd set since I’m back in the overworld. gl on the lowmans
How can you have full grenade energy after using it?
“Time’s Vengeance” gives you fast super energy regen and chunks of grenade energy, which scale with your base stats and a few other buffs. So with Time’s Vengeance, 100 disc, and HoIL class item it’s almost instantly back. The warlock strategy works the same way so you can spam Verity’s Brow buffed nades
Class cannon gunplay oriented class btw
I clearly play a very different Destiny 2
you so couldve 1 phased
it’s possible, just not probable. I need a new ad in the tether each time I melee to get a huge chunk like that, so I opted for a safe 2 phase instead of praying for the lucky 1 phase. would have been a million times cooler as a 1 phase tho
ive never done VOG so can someone explain to me what is happening and why he is doing so much damage and if its possible to replicate it normally
he's stacking a bunch of damage buffs like radiant in between invuln phases to smack the boss with a lot of damage whenever he uses his grapple melee
have explained the solo mechanics in a few other comments, so check those if curious. not sure what “normally” means in this context, but it’s replicable as long as ads are near the boss. Atheon takes extra ability damage (3-4x multiplier iirc), so that stacked with the Stylish Executioner build is able to 3 shot him
What exotic class item roll is that?
Synthos + HoIL
Why can't titan be this broken?
Instructions unclear have been lost to time
🗣️🔥 You are forever lost in the dark corners of time 💯‼️
Let’s be honest, we all check Discord after that notification 😂
Crazy that people still use discord.
@@mister_needleswhy
ur crazy
I’m lost man, why he doing all that unnecessary work?
🗣🗣🗣SHADOWBALLS💯💯💯
yo whats ur keybinds
mostly normal. main changes are interact and grenade as mouse buttons, q and c for the melees, and 4 for inventory with 5 rebound to be left arrow key (for faster loadout swaps). almost everything else is unchanged
now do it with the white Khvostov or no balls
I actually prefer to do this raid with only two of my friends, it feels like a strike
Is solo one phase with this strat possible?
For sure. If you can get radiant beforehand I’m pretty sure you can kill in 3 grapple melees. Just need a ton of luck with ads moving into the tether. I tried experimenting with killing the plate ads beforehand and having them respawn during DPS but had no luck. If you get ads to respawn the 1 phase should actually be pretty easy.
I would consider hunting it but the eager glitch is mostly patched :(
2:41 i know bro was panicking his ass off here
can confirm
How do you know which oracle order?
if you break all three at around the same time you don’t need to read. I do this for sets 1 and 2, then read the third set normally since i’m back in the main room
Is it possible to do the relic glitch for a better positioning on warlock?
Yep, it can be useful in both the initial tp and the skate to the portal
see youre build ?
all builds are in description
We human species need some explain wtf happens here...
wtf did I just watch
Seem fine. Nerf titan
How I make this 999999 damage build
Build links are in description
What roll on the class item *i assume ur using it*
HoIL + Synthos. Works with any synthos class item, but you’d probably need to use a grapple point tho
How did you guess the correct oracles???
If you break all 3 oracles at the same time it still counts. I do that for sets 1 and 2, then I read third set normally
is inmost giving full grapple regen ?
The “Time’s Vengeance” buff that you get during DPS gives you increased super and grenade regen that scale based on your Int and Disc. So with 100 disc, Time’s Vengeance, and an Inmost class item you almost instantly get grapple back
I almost solo'd it but it took me 5 phases as i swap to swordbreaker with one two punch
You can’t go past 4 phases
What was the hung jury roll you used? Dim isn’t showing me. Congrats btw!
Thanks. It's Explosive Payload + Shoot to Loot
Why didn't you just 1 phase him
the stylish executioner build doesn’t work like that. you don’t spam the grapple melee, instead you have to wait for an ad to enter the tether to get a chunk. it is possible to 1 phase, just very unlikely
@@Slommy_ oh ok, sorry not much of a hunter guy lol good work
thanks, if you want to see a 1 phase check out Dabs titan kill from last season. it’s insane
my toxic trait is thinking i could do this frfr
How you know oracles numbers from inside.?
he doesn't, he breaks them all in the same time so order doesn't matter
I am omniscient
I think you god
Surprised no nighthawk still hunt
Doesn’t do enough damage
@@carnage9536 not anymore
@@Vuheli it didn’t pre nerf either
Can u make a tutorial?
There’s tutorials out and the only difference really is the skate with the relic and damage phase but there’s tutorials for the stylish executioner grapple damage and you just ground skate with the relic since you can apply eager edge to relics now and they get pre nerf eager
Can i see build?
DIM links in description. Damage loadout is the Hunter grapple melee build, Ehroar has a good video on how it works.
what the dog doin?
You meleed 5 times the Boss
correct, and I grapple melee’d the boss 4 of those 5 times.
Nerf Titans
buff hunter
What even are hunters man...
nerf titans
buff hunter 🗣️
lowkey sounded like u busted at the end
never said I didn’t
that would be the liquid next to atheon's dead body
WF 🤑
I can’t do a simple dungeon and here ppl doing Raids الله اكبر 💀🤣
... what the fuck.
LOL wtf dude 😂
#Nerf hunters
almost every solo atheon was done on warlock until now lmao
You aren't the first
On Hunter, read man. I literally posted this on Warlock 3 months ago