Harry Potter Fulfilled Prophecy | Brandon - Arizona | Talk Heathen 03.36
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- Talk Heathen 03.36 for September 8, 2019 with Eric Murphy & Jamie Boone.
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In other news Walt Disney and the 7 Dwarves were eye witnesses to the resurrection of Snow white.
disney i believe is/was atheist....i bet he read the buybull and decided to make up his own stories
so 'true'. to add to that, Existence of coliseum, Roman Empire dominance with invasion of france and europe, proves asterisks and oblisque existed as they lead the defeat of the whole roman empire, proving they were not just cartoon characters. also real historical characters like emperor caesar were in the stories, again, confirming their existence
Tony D'Arcy hilarious😂👍
I feel sorry for people such as this gentleman. Blinded by faith, blue pilled by religion
My heart stopped for 7 minutes during a routine operation. Send tithes to the usual address and we'll work out the commandments later. Bless you.
Sofabuddha
What does this mean?
@@caroleehubbard8380 It means I must be divine or the messiah or something. Either way, I'm claiming 10% off anyone daft enough to believe it means anything.
I died in the Saint Vincent's emergency Room and remember some of it. I remember a joke, but not a God.
i was buried last thursday and rose on sunday morning.....
Sofabuddha wait, I had open heart surgery where my heart was stopped for even a longer period, I want 10% also
Living people have been buried often throughout history, that is why some graves had bells that could be rung from inside the grave.
Yup. It's where the expression "saved by the bell" comes from.
@Sticky Steve i honestly thought it was about school...
@@PaddySnuffles
"Dead Ringer" is the term you are looking for.
@@frndofbear no, he is correct ... dead ringer comes from horse racing
I can’t tell you how helpful it is to hear how to rebut arguments of historicity. I’ve heard these types of arguments a lot and to many people, this is convincing! It was to me for a long time, so I really like hearing these arguments rebutted!
Odin was hung from a tree while speared through the chest for nine days and nights without fear of death just to get the Runes to share with humanity because he had to prove his worthiness to the Runes so they would reveal themselves.
Jesus died for a long weekend after suffering for just a few hours as a human sacrifice to himself to circumvent rules he created to begin with.
Odin wins.
This is why I enjoy reading comments! 👍
Also, Odin pulled out his eye, to prove to Mimir (who's a Vanir, by the way, not an Aesir) that he was worthy of the knowledge that Mimir would bestow upon him. He sacrificed for this knowledge to be able to serve his people better, not just for fame and fortune. I don't remember any stories of jesus voluntarily mutilating himself for the benefit of his subjects! Hells, we don't even have any good reasons to think that jesus was a real person! Odin on the other hand is well attested in both the poetic eddas and the prose eddas, easily having twice as much evidence for his existence as this jesus joker!
@Jim Merrilees
Who said anything about "1 guy claiming ..." Christians don't even have that. All they have is a story, where one character tells a further story about further characters being witnesses. That's a far cry from evidence.
I mean, if I walked into court and handed the judge a handwritten note saying "I couldn't have killed the deceased, as 500 people saw me in Paris at the time of the murder," does ANYONE honestly think the judge would accept that as evidence? Thus is continues to baffle me, how christians aren't able to differentiate between "unconfirmed stories" and "evidence"...
@Jim Merrilees
But "we" don't have his reports/ records/ testimony, or even his claims. Instead, we've got a story, where there's a mention of a guy, several decades after the event (life/ death of Jeebus), telling another story about there being 500 witnesses to some other happenings.
"Reliable" doesn't even come into the question here. I mean, is Samwise Gamgee a "reliable witness" in regards to the events in Lord of the Rings? We can't call these guys "reliable" because they aren't witnesses; They're just characters in a story.
Hope that makes what I was trying to say come across a bit clearer.
@Jim Merrilees
I have no objection to that.
When the caller came in with that parting shot about a judge, one of them should've responded "About as corrupt as a judge that hands out the same sentence to jaywalkers and murderers."
All the nations didn't turn on them. They had the US and the best weapons money could buy.
Thank you the USA gives them billions of dollars in weapons the caller should compare israel’s military budget to it's neighbors.
Religion destroy your mind.
Truthus Maximus then prove to me your god exist solid evidence not that stupid bible that man made grow up man.
Even christian have troll haha
@Truthus Maximus and you're an even bigger fool.
The Harry Potter series has way better morals, and characters with understandable motivations
Eric and Jamie-- re: Prophecy
1.) Confuscious said... and it happened. He existed. Therefore, the God of the Bible exists.
2.) Why didn't the prophecy of the destruction of the city of Tyre IN THE BIBLE happen???? The story actually specifies under what King this would happen and how does the caller explain that the city of Tyre still exists!?!
3.) I like Matt Dillahunty's comparison of prophecy being fulfilled to ordering a hamburger from a waiter and calling it a fulfilled prophecy when he comes back with my order, exactly the way I asked for it.
4) Doesn't Jesus tell his disciples he would come back in their lifetime? 2,000 years later and we are STILL waiting!
5.) Aron Ra also has a very entertaining RUclips video on Failed Prophecy. If you want to brush up on your arguements.
Lmao they should just call this guy "prophecy guy", because that's every call he has. It's his thing, just like the "mystical experience" guy 😆
Before hand held computers were invented i prophesied that one day there will be games in a machine that you can carry around anywhere. It has happened.
Proof.
Palm Sunday was reported in the Greek Orthodox Church around the 4th century CE. The Western Christian churches didn't use the practice until the 6th century CE. Scholars do not consider it to be a New Testament holiday, and therefore has no scriptural authority.
The Bible requires very careful interpretation.
You have to read between the lies.
Jamie strait up calling god a mafia boss in front of the goon trying to enforce the boss's orders, YASS QUEEN SLAY!
Daniel 9 talks about 70 years at first, then 70 weeks. So, it is confusing and it isn't about Messiah, but return of Israel, which happened in Cyrus. But book of Daniel was written in time when Greco-Syrians took over Israel. So the so-called "prophecies" already happened by then.
Why did this loving god wait so long before he decided to get involved and if we are made in gods image what was this god doing with Neanderthal that came before us and why didn't Jesus give us some meaningful info.
And why did this god give man nipples.
rbspider I have said that same thing for the past 40 years! I asked my priest that question about Adam and Eve and the caveman and asked how we changed and he said "they sinned and god made them ugly but didn't explain how we turned back to us. Totally lost faith in religion after that
@@Poseidon6363
For pleasure, you heathen.
@@Poseidon6363 That's genetics. Men, can lactate out of their nipples like women do. I know it sounds crazy but it can happen.
hegyak I gotta say that’s creepy.
They used to bury people with bells in case they buried a living person….
We don't even know if Jesus actually existed let alone any of the other speculation crap.
Yes Eric, your hair is a mess but we love you anyway LOL
I know what the bible says, and I'm not going to take any stock in a book that has magic and talking animals in it. Sorry, christians. When you no longer have to point to a fairy-tale to get your point across, then I might listen to you.
I wonder what a _human_ judge would say to a _human_ father, who've left his ignorant kids alone with his most powerful adversary, groomer of all groomer of a neighbor, for a whole day to then, in the darkness of night, kick _them_ out onto the dangerous streets, _never_ to return, cause of their very first act of disobedience of taking a cookie when they weren't supposed to? Would a _human_ judge say something like: _You, sir, are an example to all us struggling parents",_ or more like: _"you, sir, are an abomination to parenthood"_ ?
I still can't understand why religious people can't or won't or in any other way see that god doesn't do a fucking thing, people do things and then attribute it all to god. Like Aronra said, "god can do everything humans can't do but CAN'T DO ANYTHING HUMANS CAN DO".
His face at 17:54😂👍
AAAAGGH!!
I rarely hate, but I *DO HATE* when these people just go around in circles, not proving, just asserting their claims. Its *FRUSTRATING* !!
I do, also, find it comical that all the adverts that go around all these sorts of vids are religious in nature. Religion is trying to appropriate the vids, just like it did with holidays---simply hilarious!
Eric your hair is awesome.
that's one of the things i hate about theists, whenever you refute their position, they just go straight onto the next thing they believe. it means nothing. They don't care about true things and evidence, they just like to believe what they believe cos they want to believe.
Brandon brings up the description of the tabernacle from the Bible. What he doesn't know is the tabernacle layout from its size, shape, proportions, surrounding courtyard, golden winged accoutrements, Eastern orientation, and arrangement of outer and inner rooms are a match with battle tent of Pharaoh Ramses II.
Michael Homan, To Your Tents, O Israel! (Leiden: Brill, 2002), pp. 111-15.
That ending 😂
Caller claims prophecy is specific and then goes on with more non specfic evidence for his claim
The line about how Israel could not have won the Yom Kippur war really got to me. Read the book Arabs in War, it gives a good idea of how and why Israel was able to win not only that war but its war of Independence and 6 day war. NO DIVINE INTERSECTION NEEDED.
At the end of the call he said "Do you think murderers should get away with their crimes" But too be honest murderers can still go to heaven according to christianity because the only way to prevent going to hell is to believe. =/
One thing, why did god not place proof that never would disappear?
Everything about god or jesus rottened away, because it was regular writing, if it would have been divine, god could have made it eternal, that would be a very good proof!
That being not existing shows, allt hat is not divine!
If god were real, and omniscient, it should be written in blazing letter forty feet high right across the fucking sky. That'd certainly help.
I’d love to hear about devout Christians, Muslims and Jews and atheists regrowing limbs or their spinal cord injuries healing, people with Downs Syndrome, Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s getting healed w/o medical/surgical intervention, 16k children not dying 24/7 from hunger related illnesses...you know, the stuff a ‘loving’ God could do to remind humanity he’s still around and actually gives a damn.
@@blankaccount5073 yes. It might be that for salvation one must be buried with a screwdriver stuck in their ass. All others go to hell because our loving skydaddy wants us to be burried in such a way.
Basically your argument is the old bs "god knows better and we just dont understand it"? So when a pedo rapes and murders a few kids, its not bad but its actually good and gift from god as his love. I mean according to christians nothing in the world happens without gods approval and god is all good. So that pedo doing what he does is actually gods will and its is GOOD so why do you want to punish them? Well Im assuming a bit here that you want them to be punished.
Pwning You Congratulations dingus, my entire point flew so over your head it’s in orbit. 👍
@@blankaccount5073 i can prove praying fails i prayed that you would get cancer and your still here.
My cup runneth over.
I should have used a mug.
Why pick the god invented by the Jews ?
There are thousands of other gods from hundreds of ancient civilisations.
The reason you pick that god is because the Roman emperor Constantine picked it.
If Constantine had picked one of the Norse gods, you'd be picking that one instead.
And it's not even a very cool gawd, I prefer Thor, really excellent hammers and shit plus who cannot rate him for fixing the ice giants.
@@gazza595
Thanks for that humorous rebuttal.
It made me smile.
So classics scholar and archaeology graduate here. Julius Caesar. I can look at the fausti, ( the list of consuls), I can read Cicero, a politician contemporary of Caesar and a rival one opposistion. I can look at buildings by Caesar, statues and coins of Caesar. I can read Caesar own books, the civil war and the Gallic wars, and a book on Latin he wrote.
We can read about career in parthian imperial documents, we can then look at secondry sources like suetonius.etc.
Caesar was declared a god, the month of July is named after Caesar.
Some empowered and rivals claim Caesar visited them after he died.
Brandon you have no idea of what you are talking about
Palm Sunday had nothing to do with christianity until the First Council Of Nicaea in 325CE. It was created to displace the Pagan festival of Eoastre, the Pagan festival of Saturnalia was displaced by Christmas at the same Council. You'll learn more by reading history instead of scripture.
Jamie and eric nail brandon that was awesome.
Yes, brandon, and your fictional demigod promised that people standing there listening to it talk would not all be dead before it came back…
@@Prada_GT It was verses like that which lead me to stop believing, once I allowed myself to use my reason while reading the christian myth. Talk about being late!
Yes they often seem to forget that. Makes the threat of the second coming less realistic so they can't leverage it and intimidate people.
@@digbycrankshaft7572Yet not one of them has been able to show me that 2,000 year old jew just waiting for jesus' return so he can finally fucking die.
Bible is bits and pieces of all the gods stories of the past who can rule who🤣
I read a story somewhere that Jesus cut a woman in half and there was much wailing and gnashing.
Then he said, " Oh ye of little faith", then he opened the box and she was whole again.
How do you explain that ?
Ohmigod, you're right! How was the woman made whole again if Jesus wasn't one third of an omnipotent entity outside of space and time that created the universe?!
It's just simple logic, checkmate atheists.
And the brought to him a man sick of the palsy.
And the Lord did say “how long hath this man been sick of the palsy?”
And the disciples did say “Six months Lord”
And the Lord did say
“After six months I’d be sick of the palsy too!”
And they were filled with joy, and did exclaim
“Truly Lord, thy one-liners are as good as thy tricks....”
@@petehouse8380
And they said unto him, do you do children's parties, and the Lord said,
"No"
But they did press him, saying, "Go on, give us another one"
It’s a story! What is so difficult?!?
Why on earth do I keep getting Jesus adds?
Maybe Gawd wants a word with you?!
@@lil-al maybe OwO
I never thought of how much Harry Potter is analogous to these stuff. I always thought of it as a generic fiction to compare to the bible's fiction. I totally forgot that Harry Potter had a prophecy of his birth.
What letter is behind the mic? Unless you're a warhammer fan, I can only think of three letters, and none of them are good. I'm not listening anymore....I'm just waiting for him to lean to the right so I can read the damn shirt !! :)
This guy still doesn't get it - prophecies are not evidence of anything! He just can't stop talking about them even though they are pointless. He just keeps banging his head against the same wall. Does he really expect to convince us using faulty logic?
The problem for him will be even if he could have come with extremely well defined prophecies he still would need to justify a god doing it. I can just as easily claim it was actually undetectable pink flying micro elephants whispering it to the writers.
17:43 ...Brandon... When did the Jesus character born, according to the Gospels? Spoiler alert: It depends what Gospel you read.
THANK YOU for finally pointing out that "fulfilled prophecy" in the bible is just as impressive as "fulfilled prophecy" in harry potter. They're both just storybooks, so having one storybook "predict" something that then later happens in that same storybook is ridiculously mundane. It's something that ANY writer or editor can make happen in ANY story. For some reason, theists can't get it through their heads that the bible is a storybook. There's no reason to believe that the storybook is describing a true story in its confused narrative. Like any good storybook, it will sometimes reference real places/ real events/ real people. That doesn't serve as evidence that the narrative is true, otherwise- once again- Harry Potter would be a true story, too!
Please guys, really stick it to these idiots in the future. Please hammer home the point that the bible is just a STORYBOOK! For any of us to take it more seriously than any other storybook, we need evidence that the story is a true and accurate accounting of events and such evidence can only come from sources other than the storybook itself! If you've communicated this concept effectively this will entirely eliminate any theist trying to start a sentence with "According to the bible/ The bible says/ If the bible it true..." If they come back with "but the bible says..." then you hammer them back with "and harry potter says (for example) that Kings Cross station is in London..." So if we go to London and find a place called Kings Cross station, does that mean that the story of Harry Potter is a true and accurate depiction of events?
Just keep hitting them over the head with this until they understand; The bible is just another storybook. For ANYONE to take it more seriously than that, we'd need evidence that no one has ever been able to provide, showing that it is more than just a fanciful, make-believe story (with occasional references to real places/ events/ people, as with any good story).
Razar Campbell Thank you! I’ve got an issue of Amazing Spider-Man with Obama on the cover, it doesn’t make Spider-Man real, even if Parker's home with Uncle Ben and Aunt May was located at 20 Ingram Street, a real address in Queens.
My prophecy is that Norwich City will beat Manchester City 3 - 2 in the English Football Premier League on Saturday 14th of September 2019. I mean I know I am writing this on September 15th of that year but believe me I made this prophecy this before the event. Just because I don't have the original prophecy written down anywhere or told anyone about it beforehand, I swear to you I did make that prophecy ahead of time. And my prophecy has as much evidence for it as any Bible prophecy that Brandon is claiming here.
Brandon would be arguing for another fictional being if he was born to non Christian parents, as simple as that
The passover is a holiday based on stuff that didn't happen. I would say that that's a fairly important one for lots of people. No Hebrew slavery in Egypt, then no plagues, then no murder of the first borns, then no "asking for" silver and gold, then no exodus.
Hey, are there extra-biblical records of all the attacks and slaughters and kidnappings and ra-? It would be nice if they were more bragging. I kind of think they might have been real, though.
King lebron being the goat is a fulfilled prophecy.
Wow. That was some unimpressive logic dodging.
God loves us.
Yet he plans to destroy one third of mankind ?
That doesn't gel dude.
Oh No, Brandon again! Mr. "we write it down so it can't change, so god is real"
I recommend Digital Hammurabi's new little vid about prophecy in Daniel.
@Hilmar Zonneveld
You're welcome,
DH is definitely a very worthy channel with a high emphasis on good scholarship and interesting topics.
@Hilmar Zonneveld
good luck with that- it's a fascinating subject but I just don't think I've got the time or space in my brain to handle with it.
@Hilmar Zonneveld
I can't even remember to read it in the right direction!
I recognize this guy, he got his ass kick by Matt.
Blimey, that's unusual.
No, the probability of you being born is not 1. That's post hoc. It's like saying the chances of the winner of the lottery winning the lottery are 1. That's not what probabilities are, they're predictive not post-dictive. Ironically Eric goes on to accuse the caller of post hoc.
The bible proves the bible because of the bible. I could write a book that..- yeah but that wouldn't be the bible. Aaarrrgghhh
Why can't we just do the same thing they did and hold ourselves a council and declare ourselves the new apostles; with new fantasies and hallucinations in a new Bible? The muslims and the mormons did.
The nature of the specificity that Jamie says would impress him doesn't really matter, since it could be a case of prophecy fullfilment, by Christians.
The god of Israel either punishes us immediately or he gives us a suspended sentence.
Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, offered strange fire and were killed immediately.
I have often eaten meat on Friday and worked on Saturday, but he hasn't killed me yet.
Perhaps I will be put into a furnace of fire after death (rather than being buried).
Why wouldn't God use His mightiest tools to acomplish His goals? it's easy. He did. it's called Hell
The Bible is inspired by God? Then what happened to the waters of the deep end where is the dome above the earth?
Wasn't the world supposed to end in the generation of christ? In that case pretty much all prophecies are.... unnecessary?
First prove the existence of Daniel, Brandon. Since there is no evidence for Daniel's existence out side the bible, and Brandon forgets that the texts of his book were being written hundreds of years post ataxerxes.
I would suggest that he read Dr. Carriers book..... I honestly think that Ehrman is being dishonest on this point, because, as he says over & over...... having a job depends on it. 😉
Give me any apologist and I can tell you the same thing *shrug*
Maybe once Ehrman retires he will spill the tea?
how come these guys that get caught up by religion don't realize it is another form of government? they talk about freedom to be ruled by a fiction. how is that freedom. ruled by universe farting pixies? da da dunnnn (dramatic effect)
A MAN named jesus may well have existed. It's the 'CHRIST' part that is totally 'IFFY'.
In the proficy; who is “everyone”? America will never drop support for Israel so “everyone” will never be I guess. Furthermore how is “everyone” read as nations? Does it not mean literally everyone, every human being on earth? ....god should have been more precise I think 🤔 💭
Eric does know that the bible is not one book right? Why does he keep going back to the idea that the "only in the book" idea
Eric was making a general statement as to what a book is, what should he say ‘a bunch of stories on papyrus and paper scribblings collected together over 1500 years into what we’d call a ‘book’.
@@AC-gb7do his point that he references repeatedly is the the bible just like harry potter is only true in its book the problem however is that the bible is a collection therfore is not analogous it that way at all
richybambam1995 Yes, I understand what you’re saying, however, no one calls the Bible a collection of stories, they call it a book. You want to get all nitpicky, then sure it’s a collection of stories.
@@AC-gb7do no I'm not being semantic about it. He is saying harry potter isnt accepted because it has nothing outside of itself. The bible is completely different people writing harry potter is one author so it's just his idea but the bible is over 40 different people some just recording history.
richybambam1995 Again, Harry Potter is a character in a book. The Bible is a book.
Book - a written or printed work consisting of pages glued or sewn together along one side and bound in covers.
“It’s different people recording history..” No, it’s not. What contemporary writer or sources besides Matthew mention the Walking Dead event in Jerusalem? No Egyptian record exists mentioning Moses or his devastation of Egypt either.
The ancient egyptians were already keeping records for hundreds of years before the flood and did not seem to notice that their entire civilization was wiped out, or that a flood occurred at all.
The Djoser Step Pyramid and the Great Pyramid of Cheops were both built hundreds of years before the flood with no evidence of water damage.
Moses refers to "Palestine" (Ex 15:14). No such name was in use then.
David took Goliath's head to Jerusalem (1 Sam 17:54). But Jerusalem was not captured until 7 years after David became king (2 Sam 5).
David paid 600 shekels of gold for the threshing floor (1 Chron21:22-25). But shekels of gold were not yet used in business transactions (this is the only use of the term in the OT).
Psalm 18:6 mentions the temple, thus cannot be by David.
Defeat of Sennacherib did not happen at Jerusalem, but at Pelusium, near Egypt, and Jews were not involved, contrary to 2 Kings 19.
Ninevah was so large it took three days to cross, i.e. about 60 miles (Jonah 3:3-4). Yet it had only 120,000 inhabitants, making a population density of of about 42 people per square mile for a city.
None of the Gospels are mentioned by early Christians, e.g. Paul, Pope Clement I (97 AD), Justin Martyr (140 AD). The first mention of any Gospel is by Irenaeus (185 AD).
There is no mountain from which one can see all the kingdoms of the world (Matt 4:8, Luke 4:5).
Jesus as a historical figure is not mentioned by any contemporary non-Christian writers.
Matt 2:1 says Jesus was born in the reign of Herod, who died 4 BC. Luke 2:2 says he was born during Quirinus' governorship of Syria, which began 6 AD.
Thieves were never punished by crucifixion (Matt 27:38, 44).
No crucifixion would have been performed on the eve of Passover.
There is no contemporary historical confirmation of darkness covering the earth at the crucifixion (Matt 27:35, Luke 23:44).
There is no contemporary historical confirmation of the slaughter of the innocents by Herod (Matt 2:16-18). Josephus, whose history contains much criticism of Herod, does not mention it.
Still want to stick with “different people were recording history”?
Kinda aggressive tbh from guy on right
Jésus is à myth, sorry but if you claim à guy with magic powers... you need to backnit up
ow boy.... more the bible is true because the bible says..... oh boy....
looney tunes time again!
This is what a perceive when I watch this; it’s the story of the drowning man who ask god for help, 3 boats came along and refuse to aboard, he insisted that God was going to help him, until he drown and appeared before God, and ask God why didn’t you save me Lord, The Lord answered him: I sent 3 boats to save you.
The Lord has hundreds of brothers and sister call this guys. What will their excuse be? We never heard about you? There wasn’t enough evidence?
Pray for wisdom.
Yep, hundreds, and none of them with anything real.
You are loved by the Creator of Heaven and Earth and He calls you into a personal restored relationship with Him, through His Son and by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus says, “I am the Good Shepherd.” A shepherd tends his flocks, keeps them safe, leads them to streams of water, counts their heads so that not one is lost. If one has strayed away, the good shepherd will not give up looking until the lost is found again. Call on His Name, the Name of Jesus, the One who has forgiven and redeemed you by His death on the Cross. “God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whoever believes on Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)
@Sam Bacon none - but lots of biblical prophecy being fulfilled daily. John 3:16 reveals God's love for you, the desire of His heart for you and His promise to you - if you should find the prophecies unexplainable but believable, perhaps you will make your own investigation.
@Sam Bacon Eyes wide shut, eh? That's ok. You'll have your 'demonstrable proof' evidence soon enough. Have a nice night.
@Sam Bacon Matt 16 was fulfilled on the mountain when Peter, James and John saw the glorified King Messiah transfigured. Just because Jesus wasn't assuming His earthly kingdom of 1,000 years at that time in 33AD doesn't mean they weren't privileged to be the 'some who are standing here' who would see the King they had been waiting for - and the truth and knowledge that Jesus was in fact that One gave them the courage to face their persecutions - 2 unto horrific martyrdom; Matt 24, the other passage often quoted as 'proof' the bible is untrue is a prophecy, the end of which won't see its completion until after the millennium when the new heaven and new earth are created. That passage says 'this generation will not pass away ...' we are the generation (of @ 70 - 80 years' , as indicated in Psalms, or 120 years as indicated in Noah) - the generation time count began with the re-formation of Israel as a nation in 1948 - which began God's prophetic clock after the 70AD destruction of Jerusalem, temple and dispersion of the Jews to all nations. 120 years would be 2068 - i'm not holding my breath for us to make it that long - in fact, it's much more likely that it will be much sooner, since the armies of Ezekiel 38 are already on the Golan Heights, Ps 83 is about to take place - which will subdued the nations, like Palestine, directly bordering Israel, Isaiah 17 will be fulfilled very shortly with the total destruction, already in progress, of Damascus, and the Rapture of the Church, which will pave the way for atheists all over the world to celebrate (briefly) until their forced obedience and worship is demanded of a coming one. But all that may never happen....wise to be prepared, though, I would think. John 3:16 is available now as the most important part of that preparation - if you so desire. Enjoy the evening.
@Sam Bacon Well in a few years there might not be any evidence that you existed either. Have a good night.
@@wwlib5390 so when was the prophecy about Nebuchadnezzar conquering Egypt fulfilled? Or how about Tyre being destroyed and never rebuilt or lived in ever again? Funny how when you look at specific prophecies and not the vague ones you’ll find out that they never came true
2 Corinthians 4: 4.
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5. For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. 6. For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God's glory displayed in the face of Christ. 7. But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. 8. We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9. persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. 10. We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11. For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body. 12. So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you.
Why are you just pasting in text from a bullshit book? What point are you trying to make?
Congratulations, you can quote from ancient papyrus scribblings! 👍
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You are a typical product of a truly dumbed down society, a bearer of surplus pride and arrogance mixed with a shite for brains take on life.
love and squalor And you think you know all that about me how exactly? Sorry Dingus, being sarcastic to you on a comment thread doesn’t give you insight into my life.
I’m ‘arrogant’, and supposedly have ‘shite for brains’, yet you believe a collection of stories written anonymously by 40 people on papyrus and paper over a span of 1500 years beginning when no one understood how the world worked, and so created Gods to explain it all just like every other ancient culture has throughout history is factual despite no evidence to support any of it.
Hilmar Zonneveld I know, my life sucks so bad because I don’t believe in an imaginary friend. 😂
Here is a prophecy; a man named Boris will enter Belgium.
As a side thought. Why did God bother with human life at all? How long is eternity and how long is human life? Yet God judges us for a tiny window of existence?
Were you there?.... oh wait, wrong apologetic.
Yep, you need to prove the god exists before you can claim the book about it is true.
"A prophecy which misread could have been. " - Yoda
I wonder if any of our daily trolls steps up and actually calls tomorrow.
What everyone fails to mention that brings up the Yom Kippur War is that Israel were supported by the USA and UK troops during that war.
So it wasn't Israel vs all these Arab Nations it was Israel plus 2 of the largest and most powerful armies in the world v all these Arab nations.
On the tabernacle thing,
What cell? You realize that cells aren’t all the same. How does a perfect cell look like a “human cell”.
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That’s not a piece if evidence, even ignoring it being an after the fact realization.
Prophecy is trash as an argument to begin with. Even if they were very specific, answerable to only one occurrence,and 100% accurate, you’ve still got all your work ahead of you because the fact that a prediction came true doesn’t tell you how or why. The rest of this guys position is entirely circular.
These are all Old Testament prophesies for People who believe the Old Testament God- ie Jewish people. So even if you think these prophesies have come to pass- that disproves Christianity.
Harry potter is also a way better story than the bible.
As well as talking donkeys, snakes and bushes. A forgotten “fact” to this fairy tale. He so loves you, he died for you. Induces powerful reciprocal emotions on the gullible and vulnerable. But remember he is immortal so can’t die!! ‘Oh he came down as a man’, they might say. bs, from day 1 he was god with his virgin birth, miracles,
Maisy’s Moment please spread it, surprises me others don’t see this, how is this miraculous resurrection possible!? God can’t die right? JESUS!! *forehead SMACK*
Go Eric! You give it to him
Some callers are just omnistupid....or best case omniignorant. Omniobtuse :)
Is Brandon getting his socks knocked off again??
"Well that really knocked my socks off "...blah blah blah
His comments about the Yom Kippur war got me thinking.
Until you realized that at the outbreak of the war Israel had more manpower, reinforcements from the UN and allies, coordinated air forces, more armor, tanks, weapons, etc. this idea that it was 1v7 is laughable, as Israel literally had an advantage at almost every stage of the war save for having to defend a larger front. Go do some research before you make claims about military history
That maffia boss and judge analogy was just perfect!
No Christian can tell you what year Jesus was crucified (was it 30AD or 33AD? Or some other year?). How then can you calculate the number of years from Artaxerxes to the crucifixion with any accuracy?
The whole problem with the bible is simple. There is ZERO independent evidence to show that anything in the bible has any veracity. The fact that some people are completely oblivious to this is irrelevant.
Inflicting pain has always been a method of diagnosing death, yet there are many examples of people falsely diagnosed death if you just look at burried people in coffins.
So stabbing is no perfect way of diagnosing death, therefore Jesus didn't have to be dead when he got stabbed...
I almost spit out my coffee when the caller claimed that the Old Testament mosaic tabernacle tent was a precise replica of the “human cell” and therefore proof of God and divine inspiration.
The Bible is a great fictional book with Dragons ;-)
My question is how do you prove that Jesus was the one and only person to ride thru the gates on that day. It is entirely possible that a woman rode thru the gates and then maybe SHE was the daughter of god?
Wow you really pinned Brandon down with the aggression of The Atheist Experience