WESTWORLD Season 4 Episode 8 Breakdown, Ending Explained, Season 5 Theories & More!
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025
- In this video we breakdown, explain, review, and recap Season 4 Episode 8 "Que Será, Será" of HBO's Westworld for new theories, easter eggs, and details you missed.
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Now to enter into the Sublime to wait for Season 5. What did you think of this season and what’s ahead?
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*what a pile of shxt.* the servers are on earth. & where are the other hosts in the sublime? puke. im glad the diverse female lesbian we just met this season made it: but she could have just not come in at all! good. we got her back to the boat. fine. gr8. no1 we know is alive. *i dont want a s5!!* -JC
Am I wrong to say I need aleast 3 more episodes😭
I even after listening to your explanation about the end, I still can't figure it out what's next for westworld!!! I'm confused AF!!! Like, now the game will be played inside game and it's going to be controlled by the machine/sever/hard-drive/Dolores who will run countless simulations of that game within the game, and the result of that game will determine the fate of both kinds, humans and hosts, like GODDAMMIT!!! This is so insane!!!
Somebody'd better call the manager, because I wanna know how far does this rabbit 🐇 hole go!!!
There better be season 5 because of of the Disney discovery merger of “WB” HBO I’ll never watch a Disney movie or show again
The Season 4 ending Sucked ass and it felt like a series finale because a season 5 isn't guaranteed and I don't think they will be one. So the ending is everyone Dies and Delores becomes a God of her own World. What a Big Pile of 💩
The writers did Stubbs dirty.
A quick death from behind by Clementine, who wanted... what, exactly? To find out where the humans were hiding, that's obvious, but what was her goal if she had gotten there? Regardless, Stubbs was a loyal host, and more than capable bodyguard, and he gets shot in the back and his head rammed through a broken piece of shelving and that's the last we see or hear of Stubbs ever again? Bullsh*t. Luke Hemsworth could not have been happy reading that script.
Stubbs will be back. No hosts are truly dead.
Stubs pearl is still intact. He only got stabbed in the eye
@@vezeveer I’m surprised Halores got restored even after Host William shot her in the head. So how does that work? that would mean Bernard and Maeve can be restored too.
Clementine is also annoying
I was so mad at that! It was the first time I questioned who is clementine related to running this show because she is very unnecessary.
I like the damn camper reference that William did as well as turning it into a battle royale at the end
That's how Pubg came into being😂😂
I loved that and yeah, William really just wanted the most real and large scale battle royale game possible. He forgot to plate up like Hale did so he got rekt sadly
William must be a gamer.
@@TeddyOG fkng deathmatch😂
He even said "fking camper"
My prediction for a character to return: Young William. From the very beginning, the man in black represents the darkest possible path, a human can choose. A part of the final game, the final test, may be to figure out whether there's still hope for mankind or not - by testing out if it's possible to prevent William from becoming the man in black.
I really hope we get to see more Jimmi Simpson in Westworld
Yes, this would be my wish. I loved young William, and it makes sense that the test would rely upon his redemption. 🥰
huh, well then we all know the answer to that. William will bite the apple and they all will be exiled to the real world, it's kind of poetic though. this whole show is heavy on biblical themes.
@@ariyanhm3962 Indeed. But not only. William/the man in black rather reminds me of Dr. Faustus, who is impossible to satisfy and gets even more frustrated, the more he learns. And what does he sell his soul for? Just one moment that he'd wish to last forever. What is actually possible - by being able to see the world and the beauty in it the way that Dolores does.
wow, great theory! would love to see that
Whatever happened between the season 3 and 4 writing, I’m thankful it has.
This season was small, sharp, precise and a headshot on the audience.
Amazing
I’m trying to see it that way. I think I am just a disgruntled couch show runner right now. I’m just confused why they killed off everyone and if they can make the next season feel original
Yes I agree...much better
too short methinks
Season 3 is still essential and has a lot of good stuff.
Same. Maybe the pandemic gave them time to rethink thinks and make more sharp and direct than S03.
Yes, I fully agree to the theory that the whole story is like a simulation from a extremely advanced AI. The only thing that is left after humanity and robots killed each other a long time ago. The AI is playing through all possible versions to see whether there could be a different outcome, which would result in a reboot, by recreating life of humans/robots as the AI can "remember" the code of the robots as well as the "cell-code" of humans. I believe season 1-4 in reality is playing probably thousands of years after the distinction of humanity and in fact is one of many simulations.
That's what I thought then also. Because you saw all the sand and the time that had gone by in the final episode of season 2 ( I think) trying to get humans to be able to adapt to being uploaded to a host. ( Never worked) Dolores was the beginning of consciousness for the AI. So the AI uses Dolores in all the different permutations including being Hale
Really hoping they can bring back Anthony Hopkins. Would be fantastic to bookend the show with his gravitas.
he was the show and why season 3 was a failure. He was the compass
i loved this ending! it was perfect!! it was what i imagined from the beginning... that original piano theme song was just PERFECT! welcome to westworld!
It's sad to think they've canceled season 5 of westworld, we were going to get answers but we're not, I wish they've at least told us.
One of the greatest shows canceled right on the most and last important season.
Here after the cancellation. Praying we somehow get 1 more season so the writers can finish their vision. If season 4 is the last I’m not too mad at it. But I do feel bad for the creatives to left it somewhat open ended hoping for a a season 5.
Why bring Maeve back as this big weapon, after she could make the tower sound, only to have her just not use her superpower and instead whiffle a knife at Halores???
So Caleb can find her and somehow save her pearl. No way they kill her off like that
They brought Maeve back to save Frankie and help Caleb. Because certain events had to play out, Maeve needed to fight Hale or at least long enough for Bernard to figure out how to change her course of action and prevent the transcendence (and stop Hale from putting humans into storage). William and Clementine were always gonna be wild cards, which is why Bernard left the video for Hale. He knew him and Maeve weren’t gonna make it but humanity had a small chance if Hale did the right thing.
for fanservice
I agree total waste. Looking for the weapon that never used her secret weapon. This season turned very Matrix
So true, plot holes.
I don’t think it’s true to say Hale saw the beautiful world for the first time, we must keep in mind that she was the one with hopes for humanity in season 3 while Dolores had a much more cynical view of it. Only after what happened to her family, that Hale gave herself into her alterego and more tyrant way of seeing things, but even then, she never wanted destruction, she wanted to prove herself and force both sides to evolve.
and to the end she kept the reminder of what happened to hales family
All more to the point. Both have now seen the good and the bad and how that sets up this new final test of sorts.
I suspect Hale eventually realized her failure to create a perfect society was caused by her corruption (the trauma of the death of Hale's family) creating faulty decisions. And so she decided she should not continue.
Dolores’ goal in season 3 was to set humanity free from rehoboam
Remember Hale is also Dolores. If Dolores at the end of season 3 could choose to see the beauty of the world, Halores could too. Nothing is binary - just black or white. that’s been the theme of the whole show. Even William used to be a “nice guy” but things got corrupted along the way. I think the “reset”’is really poignant. Season 5 is going to turn what we know about Westworld upside down and bringing us back to Westworld Park Is really special.
I had a feeling we would go back yo Westworld in the final season, but didn't imagine it would be a version that exists in the Sublime.
I hope Caleb finds Maeve and puts her pearl in a new body before he deteriorates too much. Then she can go into the Sublime and maybe recreate Caleb from her memories and he can undergo Dolores new game and we can witness it through him.
Yes, I hope they bring Caleb back!
Caleb is dead. Anything after he was shot is only a computer based on his memory.
What if Maeve is calebs daughter ?
@@iambounceback What if Caleb is Maeves daughter from Season 1?
@@Reypstraptor4269 lol ! I understand it was wild so let’s keep it going. What if Maeves Daughter (Caleb ) is really Delores
This grand story about morality has had his peak and will come full circle when we'll realize that season 1 was the end of season 5.
What if, this entire series IS a simulation, as season 1 was one of the infinite realities...
This simulation should be called, "what if Dolores met William"...
And everyone else had an other outcome, this was all about William and Dolores and their very own many times shifting moral compasses. The good and the bad consuming eachother.
@Eduardo C Be glad they didn't time or space travel their way out of this :p every AI would want to spread among the universe, her logic to trancend is even ridiculous.
"Perfect shot through the pearl?" We learned in season 2 that the casing of the pearl is bullet proof! We even see this in episode 7 when MIB shoots Hale who is re-activated by the drones.
Correct. Some hosts seem to "die" permanently when they are shot in the head, but most don't. They definitely tell us in S2 that the "chestnuts" are 'bulletproof". Moreover, given how many hosts are shot in the head in S1, it would be insane for their pearls to be so easily damaged.
So it's either a plot hole or they are trying to confuse us on purpose.
It only works if the bullet is exactly 7mm lol! 😂
Regarding the body laying by Benard, I think this scene was from one of Bernard's simulations in the Sublime, perhaps one where Maeve was killed in the same room with Benard by TMiB. That's how he knew exactly what to say to Hale and also tell her where the gun was hidden. What we saw later in the episode was the successful result of his practice run.
Thoroughly enjoyed this show! I watch all the analysis and recaps and I'm still confused about certain things, but it's still so good. It's so confusing, but awesome.
William called that sniper camper. Amazing
Williams disdain for "campers" was a brilliant inclusion. The man is a true gamer.
I think the theory that this is all a simulation that's been happening from the start by Dolores like we're seeing it play out in reverse makes the most sense.
Thts wht im thinking
lol, Rebus/ that guy fromm TWD and Trevor had been linked in my mind for years, without knowing Trevor IS Rebus. Ty for pointing out.
If there is a season 5 delores will try to reach fidelity with the humans. Remember she has a copy of every human
remember wiliam at the post credit scene of season 2.
fidelity test...
#Westworld should have ended at season 2. Once we lost Ford, Maeve having bison wreck shop and the whole Akecheta/Sublime subplot, it should have ended there. It would have been a perfect postscript to the amazing 1st season. I'm really annoyed right now.
Every human? Or just the ones rich enough to visit the park?
How does she have a copy of every human? By being a program that ruled all humans and hosts in S4? Or cuz of Rehoboam in S3?
agreed. I think that’s what she is doing: Fidelity for human/hosts so they can come back as the new and improved species and live harmoniously with pure hosts.
Akecheta said the other hosts had created their own worlds in the Sublime - will Dolores be pushing them back into Westworld. Also it wasn’t that many, mainly Ghost Nation and Maeve’s daughter (and new mother).
Also will Teddy be mad at Dolores for how she changed him and him ultimately killing himself in S2?
That's what I was thinking -- mighty entitled and arrogant of Dolores to roll up in there, with hosts that have been evolving exponentially and creating worlds in the Sublime, and be like " 'Member Westworld? Yeah, you're all in my test now!" GTFO with that, Dolores.
nah. Teddy is never mad with Dolores. he loves her. The real Teddy will embrace Dolores. I don’t think Dolores wants to force the hosts back to Westworld but she is inviting them there from whatever worlds they are in. she has a plan. we will find out. but first she needs to find Teddy
The virtual Westworld is just Dolores world among all the others. But her storytelling abilities, and her insight that free will is a complex muscle that she continues to train, nurture and grow, and among all her ability to focus on beauty no matte what, means that she will not just "retire in paradise", but will use it as platform for finding a way out of the sublime.
I don't know if this has been said already but I really liked that they played a instrumental cover of radiohead's "pyramid song" at the near end of the episode, haven't heard that song in a long time. Excellent season finale 👏
Knowing that there won’t be a 5th season, I can’t believe this is the end they chose to give Bernard, Maeve, Stubbs, Caleb and pretty much every other Host we have followed.
All in all, Season 4 ended about how I expected it too, I figured there would be some stuff with the sublime being a final refuge for humanity and hosts, and thats how it ended up more or less. I did think Episode 8 felt a little rushed, especially the second half, I think they probably should have broken it into two episodes. The timeline didn't make much sense, from New York City it would have taken William a day or two just to get out of the city with all the chaos and another three days minimum to drive the 2,800 miles cross country to Hoover Dam, not counting however long he travelled on horseback after his truck was destroyed. But it seemed like Halores was revived and went after him by air only a day or so after he left, I suppose it could have taken a week for the drones to fix her up and her to hang around at the spire, but the story didn't make it seem that way.
Wonderful sci fi series, terrific writing, characters and story, never miss an episode. Kudos to the producers.
Last year was a dumpster fire of garbage. It does set up this year which it was really good in my opinion.
Bernard opened the gate, by uploading the key, for her to be able to upload Christina later and then close it; as well as planting the gun. So no, Hale does not have the key nor does Christina.
Exactly. Was kind of the point of whole season 3. Dolores didn't even trust herself. She knew all the suffering during season 1, all the loss and all of her own violence during season 2, i.e. all the uglyness she experienced could corrupt her sense of beauty and free will as well. That is why she gave Bernárd the key in the first place. How can this can this be overlooked?
Thanks for the detailed review!
I just couldn't believe Caleb waited all that time to attack Clem and he had no plan besides tackling her like a chav at the pub. Couldn't grab a knife or Clem's gun she left behind?? Whatever though, I'm just bitter Stubb's died so nonchalantly lol. Also, idk how close William was to getting to the Hoover, but how did he still narrowly outrun Hale who's on an EVTOL after getting revived/modded, on a horse... Still, great season and an intriguing finale, really looking grim. But I still have a side of me that thinks this was all a simulation to fix humanity, and when Dolores figures it out, the camera will cut to Ford playing the theme song on the Mariposa piano, with Arnold nearby as they wink at the camera. To be seen
I was thinking the same thing about William... he just drove nonstop from NYC to Nevada and got there first??
"The hosts are immoral"
"You live only as long as the last person who remembers you."
So death for the hosts isn't the same as death for humans. Stubbs is only dead if his pearl is damaged AND there are no back-up copies of him anywhere. Theoretically Stubbs, or any host, could simply copy their pearl onto a hard-drive... if they "die", someone else can simply print that copy onto a pearl and put that pearl into a new host body. That is exactly how the Cradle worked in Season 1. The Cradle was a simulation and collection of back-ups for all the hosts in Westworld. Moreover, even if Stubbs pearl and code is deleted, we already know that hosts can recreate other hosts via their memories of them, hence the above quote. That is exactly what Dolores does for Bernard in Season 2.
So yeah, Stubbs ain't dead. Nor is Maeve or William. They've gone pretty far out of their way to show us in 4 seasons that death isn't what we thought it was.
Also, everyone seems to forget that the show tells us (Season 2?) that the "chestnuts" (i.e., the thing that holds the pearl) is "bullet proof". That's the whole point of the chestnut, to protect to the pearl. So shooting them in the head doesn't kill them. It's very hard to damage the pearl of a host.
@@johns.1857 yeah I know they'll all be back, just wanted him to go out with more purpose. However I have lost all hope of Lee Sizemore coming back in some way sadly. I am curious if Ford will come back, I feel like he has to at some point in S5
Yes please!
@@michaeljuozokas121 it's cos he's actually a super old Astro Boy, he used his rocket legs!
What I did find very funny about the finale is that they see “Manhattan” as the entire world of the humanity, as if it’s the end of the world
Yea that's what I wish the show made clearer - that this whole scenario was being played out around the world....wasn't it?
They could've at least made some reference to other countries/cities, like they usually do in disaster movies (shots of the Eiffel Tower etc.)
But it was easy to think this was only happening in Manhattan!
I agree with this. Couldn’t there be humans and hosts in remote areas? Island nations? Small African villages? It seems a huge plot hole.
it’s an allegory. They can’t show the whole world. Plus they never said it was NYC (or Hoover Dam) even though they are the locations.
@@kash3548 yeah but in the previous season with Rehoboam they specifically showed locations all over the world and showed how Rehoboam had access to the whole world.
@@EnigmaVortex It’s implied (it’s the entire humanity) - I think it’s just a choice to focus the scope instead of going all over the world. we know Halores has already took over the world.
you miss one @11:59 Christina earring is a symbol of " - O “ indicates the beginning of all these starts with her, it's the binary system.😆
Great video!!!
I loved the finale and your video was very helpful!
Can’t wait for your explanations of S5 videos 😅
Such a good recap thank you very much for this Ive watched other recaps and they’re really annoying or not detailed
Kudos to everyone who predicted where Christina was and how this would end in a loop back to season 1. Tbh I didn’t see it coming or maybe I was hoping that wouldn’t be true. I thoroughly enjoyed this season but the finale was a let down for me with major character arcs sp Maeven and Stubbs.
I didn’t see it coming either. Many people predicted Christina not being real (as in simulation) but she turns out to be a program that runs the real world. i think that’s really cool. In essence Halores made her a god.
but meaveeeeeeee
Great season recap video bro 👌
I feel like Caleb is going to achieve fidelity in S5. All the fidelity experiments were done in isolation or simulation. It seemed like as Caleb spent time with Frankie, and started talking about his wife and remembering, reminiscing, etc, his tremors calmed down. I'm wondering if that alone is a variable that was never accounted for in the previous experiments. The ones we saw with James Delos, and even the earlier Calebs are all in individual cells.
If the show doesn’t end with a realized faithful human, then what was the point of it? My chips are all in that Dolores will create a faithful Ford. I think that is what he wanted.
@@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 I wonder if part of the point is that you CAN'T replicate a human. They are a product of every experience they've ever had, and even if you copy the final product, the memory of an experience is not the same as the experience itself. The whole "If you can't tell, does it matter?" question they've asked over and over, I believe the answer is goin to be "Yes, it matters." The whole Rehoboam thinking they could predict human nature 100% was proven false by Caleb, and all the other outliers that they thought they could just lock away. The point of humanity and sentience is the unpredictability. Even if you achieve full fidelity, you aren't recreating that person 100%. Host William still had to be told by Real William what "William" would do, even though he was supposedly a proper copy.
We know that uploading genuine human consciousness in its total form into a Host body has thus far been unsuccessful. We also know that Caleb unlike Jim Delos is an outlier. Caleb has been immune to the many control efforts by Charlores. Despite the breakdowns, we know that Caleb never gives up on finding and reaching Frankie to let her know that he never forgot about her, never willfully abandoned her mother and her and that he always loved and loves her. It was his only goal. If you note, there is not a shred of anger or resentment or vengefulness in any iteration of Caleb. THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. It was why Dolores Prime selected Caleb as her human aide when she attempted to take down Rehoboam. This was the mission that Caleb and Maeve continued. It was also Caleb and Maeve's last mission together to STOP Charlores from sending teams after them. Maeve sacrificed herself in a final ultimately futile attempt to save Caleb. When Bernard resurrected Maeve, it gave Frankie reassurance to trust Bernard and Stubbs and help them get to Charlores' Tower. All the outliers were resistant to the Tower signal. They also did NOT succumb to the signal causing all the rest to fight to the death in kill or be killed combat. This will be key. Frankie had strong attachments to her partner and to Caleb, and Caleb the same for Frankie. This overrode any impulse for violence, which for them is a last resort and ONLY pursued to prevent further harm. Frankie's gun was loaded (with at least ONE bullet), but she did NOT use it against Clementine until she had to so that she could save Caleb. These outliers represent the last of humanity. Host like Stubbs, Bernard, and Maeve represent the last of Host kind that are not disposed to violence, conflict and dominance. In the final game, Dolores will determine what qualities both Host and Human kind will embrace. THIS will all play out in the simulations inside the Sublime. IF...big IF, they both arrive at a place where they can stop their drives for power, dominance, violence and conflict, then Dolores will permit them to re-enter the world in physical bodies IF they choose and she will by then have perfected the means to install human consciousness into Host bodies.
@@WhiteG60 But William/MiB is a copy of a human?
@@djchristinad He wasn't perfect, I don't believe. Even he had to go as human William what he would do. We also don't know how many of him there are/were, or how long each one survived.
i dont like that Hale didn't understand why her hosts were offing themselves, and then she offed herself.
She could have just went thru her transcendence.. she literally left those who already went thru with it fend for themselves.
and i have no clue what Dolores is doing either.. she can't quite reboot the world, maybe it's sublime season next...
The whole point: She _learned._ She (finally) developed her understanding and at the end she understood a lot of things. Among them, that everything she hoped to achieve, can only be achieved by someone who knew from the very beginning that beings evolve and grow only if they nurture their free will, their sense of beauty. And not by a calculated fake form of "transcendence". She understood at the end, such a world can only exist without her. Her being determined by her human self who very early in life chose power over freedom, who already had 'sacrificed' all her friends, and even her family for a stupid career in a stupid system.
Delores/Christina pearl was used to set the stories for the human loops, that's why she was under the virtual map of the city.
I too wanted to know which “Dolores” pearl this was? Was this pearl from Dolores prime or from a different host? The other question I have is why did Dolores recreate the original Western/Westworld park? I think a huge question I have is will we see Ford somehow in season 5; even if it is one of Dolores’s memories of Ford? Sort of it was Ford after all (like in WandaVision it was Agatha after all.) If we get a season 5, i would love to see a version of Maeve reunite with her daughter in the sublime. I would love to see a version of Bernard be able to live again; be comforted that after all is said and done, he can walk into the sunset satisfied with how it all worked out after all. He could have a memory of talking with Ford about their original goals for the hosts and their relationships with the human guests. I think it would be cool if either Dolores or if Bernard had some dialogue with Ford; even if it was a memory recall of a past conversation; in order to help tie up all the story and character threads at the end of the final season.
Dolores is doing the biggest fidelity test in the westworld she created. Probably because she has a connection to it since that’s where she woke up.
When I was rewatching season 2 I remember a scene where Ford presented himself to Maeve. He says she's his favourite host so I wonder if Ford's code etc is in her . I feel like an ongoing plot in this show is really Arnold and Ford competing with each other.
Dolores Prime is dead/wiped. so this is definitely a copy. There are about four pearls - we never knew what happened to Musash’s. Or Martin’s. But I think Lawrence is still out there. My guess is this is Musashi’s or Halores made another copy and download to a new pearl. at the end I don’t think it matters. this is Dolores at the end. Sort of reborn, redirection. thus her name is Christina - she’s a Christ figure and now she is assuming “god” role
I think Delores want to restore humanity as hosts and thus we will have to live in harmony. I think she doesn’t believe humans can’t change because of their DNA. I think the final game/test is like you said: fidelity. I think Willam will be brought back (because he’s been scanned along with many many humans) and he will be changed or tested. I think we may see a redemption story next season and the biggest redemption would be William (and knowing Ed Harrison will be in the final season we know Willam will be back - I suspect Bernard and Maeve will be too, I am sure he’s made copies into the Sublime, possibly Stubbs too but i think his fate is more iffy just as Clementine).
Fords in the forge which is like the sublime kind of, so i think he will b in the last season in sim form or brought into delores game using her knowledge of every person recorded when she read that book
One thing I don't get is how the survivors know when a outlier exists, and become knowing and where to go to get them? Is New York city the only city that exists for humans? It just seems weird that they know when a outlier exists and how to get them?
Also what was the whole point of Franky going to rescue Caleb? I am guessing it will play more of a significance in season 5, but it didn't play any impact for season 4 finally except they lose Stubbs and kill Clementine. But the episode doesn't explain why this is important? If Franky didn't go to rescue her father, Stubbs would still be alive, they don't get Caleb anyways. Unless Clementine in a alternative scenario kills off the survivors?
Also when a host transcends, do they go to the sublime or something different? Why wasn't the sublime protected more? It seems like it was protected by one riot/battle droid, yet it contains all the hosts who traveled to the sublime and one simple person could shut it all down? I get it that William and Hale where in control of security and could have shut it down security when they visited, but Bernard and Maeve easily penetrated it too! Also who is there to keep up with maintenance of the sublime and make sure it's power source doesn't malfunction?
@Frida Pavlaski lol you sure you're not high right now?
so many questions. :) I think just like how to hosts can seek out outliers the outliers have the same technology (we don’t have to get into that technology it is - it’s sci fi). I think they focus on New York to control the scope by the idea is that this is global. Entire humanity and hosts are affected. (remember Hoover Dam is 2000 miles away from NYC so spacially don’t think too hard. it’s an allegory) For the Sublime they explained that they use turbines for sustainable energy and it was built to last at least 100 years. Of course nothing is going to stop something disastrous from happening such as earthquakes or meteor strikes. When real world hosts “transcend” they don’t get uploaded to the Sublime. Instead we see them being transferred to a new design of hosts which we are told would not be human like - it’s supposed to be a better species. But since the real wolf is now destroyed this no longer makes sense. Halores has failed in creating her perfect world (because ultimately she is going the wrong direction - instead of freedom she wants complete control).
They didnt go to the city to only rescue caleb, they wanted to stop Hale but things went off the rails so they had to change the plans
@@Seventy_Monocle Bernard and Maeve went there to stop Hale. Franky and Stubbs went to get Caleb. Bernard and Mauve went to the tower where Franky and Stubbs went to the Olympiad building. I honestly didn't see how rescuing Caleb had any impact on what happened at the tower with Hale and William?
Bernard left the Sublime open and unlocked as he knew there would be no one left to mess with it and require it to be locked
Honestly dude your videos are brilliant, found you recently and I'm currently devouring your library 🤙
just imagine we see Dr Ford in the end greeting Dolores, that would have been so epic.
Something wrong with the writing, Delores in her final monologue says all sentient life is dead but Caleb’s daughter is going to a human haven that clementine wanted to go to.
I'm pretty sure he thought humanity as a whole. The remaining humans were gonna be hunted sooner rather than later.
I believe there's a line in that monologue about, "perhaps some will live for a few months." The implication being that, even where there are survivors they aren't enough to rebuild society and will inevitably die out soon.
@@DeeJayObi I don`t get it. Isn`t it enough to brake noise towers to set people free from battle royale? There is no more Shalores so nobody controls the system!
they already said that the outliers could survive for a while maybe years but may eventually perish. I think it’s a bleak conclusion but not entirely wrong. Frankie may have survived but it’s not like they are going to rebuild humanity.
@@vi8799 It seemed to be implied that its not that easy. You can reprogram people with the noises but breaking the machines wont deprogram them
No payoff for all the buildups such as; Maeve’s importance, Caleb’s purpose, Bernard’s mission, what transcending actually was, etc.
Great season that got ruined by the finale imo.
Totally agree. I thought this episode was reminiscent of the weak season 3
Agree, loved this season a lot, but finale didn’t do character arcs any justice.
What was the point of Bernard bringing Maeve back? She died unceremoniously.
transcending looks like they are getting rid of their human form bodies in place of those large drone-like exoskeletons.
@@dewey70 she distracted Halores while Bernard gained access to the tower.
Bone chilling moment when Charlotte crushed her pearl.
Which she somehow did AFTER pulling out essentially her brain/processor 🤦♀️
Jonathan Nolan has revealed a few things about the hosts' bodies
"They don't suffer brain death the same way we do".
"Their cognition is controllable and malleable".
Source: Westworld Wiki
What if the core could remotely access her arm and instruct it to crush itself?
@@sadie9728 exactly like how would that even be possible whole body should've shut down as soon as she pulled it out
the bad cgi was distracting
@@sadie9728 She ran a command to the body she was hosting.
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Anyone notice when Hale put the memory in her bag. It looks like she has 2 of them?
In the world of Java programming, Dolores extends Teddy. Dolores is an interface. So are the other characters she created to make sense of her reality.
Westworld Season 4=Minecraft
Episodes 1-6: Creative mode
Episodes 7-8: Survival mode
I'm guessin in season 5 Dolores gonna decide the host in sublime can return to reclaim earth hence we gonna see "William" finding "Emily"
Not exactly. I think its a test of the ones left behind to either be rebuilt or enter the sublime.
I liked the camera following the fly and the chain of deaths at the beginning. I am hoping that since Dolores is in charge, can she make it a happy world this time, and show us every park next season, and then Bernard will find the glitches in the system just like Jeffrey Wrights role of Beetee in The Hunger Games.
How does this fit in with the after credit William scene from Season 2 where he is tested for fidelity? In that scene he is told that he is in the real world and not part of a simulation. Obviously for that to happen somebody would need to create a host/human hybrid and he couldn't be in the sublime.
Dolores (probably disguised as his daughter) is testing him. I think we will see a redemption story in season 5.
@@kash3548 what's William's goal anyway? Who was he fighting for in this season? I always considered him an antihero, wanting to destroy all the AI even though he's not good to people. But now I don't get it anymore
@@hellokittybg93 His goal is to win it all - the real William is so corrupt that he only wanted to win (season 1 and 2 maybe even 3) but he’s not “himself” as a host. once he had the conversation with human William he realized that’s what he is - a “destroyer” He wants to destroy Hales world and also kill all the hosts including in the Sublime. “Clean slate” and I assume he will rebuild the world to his liking. Sort of the God vs Devil metaphor. I mean if you ask what is the goal for the Devil there is probably a thousand opinions. One interpretation would be the Devil wants exactly what God doesn’t - in this case Halores wanted a perfect world so William wanted the opposite: utter chaos and destruction. The human William hates all host, but now he is a host, he hates humans too so he wants to be the last one standing.
Quick complete rundown of Season 5: Hopefully the writers were thinking about how to end the show when they began the show, now seems that way. "You're only alive as long as the last person who remembers you", Delores makes it clear she rememebers everything, therefore, she alone will recreate all the hosts we know and loved in a peaceful version of Westworld, finally going back to her base code of "choosing to see the beauty in this world" - she will also create perfect worlds for the hosts of the other parks we saw in Season 2. William will be back, you have to have a nemisis. There's nothing to have stopped William from creating another version of himself prior to heading for the dam, he knows how, he had access to the equipment, we see him shoot Clemintine in the opening of season 4 in what appears to be Spain or South America, which I believe is a glimpse into season 5. The Sublime cannot exist without servers in the actual world, this was shown as William was shutting the server down. Thus, hosts are going to be necessary in the real world to keep the servers (two at least, one at Hoover dam and one still at the Forge in the South China Sea) from being shut down - this is why some hosts will be selected or volunteer to guard the servers and help steer the human world back to recovery, as Delores has seen it destroy itself (in the big cities at least) and she's obviously not happy with that - she wants both worlds to exist, seperate, apart, but both in peace. Hale, Clementine, Snake Lady, Confederado boy, and probably the Indian fellow who was the first to become sentient, I believe, will be tasked with handling the real world of the humans and guarding the servers to keep the Sublime existent. William, obviously, will be the culprit fighting this and will end up in the Sublime where we saw him last in Season 2. Delores and Maeve defeat him and rather than kill him, Delores subjects him to an endless loop of living out the last days of his life, drawing on the Delos experiments where he ends up going down that elevator and meeting his host daughter again, over and over, for all eternity - her version of eternal damnation for him without killing him. Obviously she recreates Bernard/Arnold based on her memories of him, as she has already done before, he too works out the kinks between the Sublime and the real world, ultimately choosing to stay in the Sublime, where in the final episode he builds a copy of Ford, in the same little place Ford built a copy of Arnold, he brings him to his boyhood cabin, Ford and his dog are happy to be there, and he tells Bernard this was what he wanted for the hosts all along and there will be no more "games." And they had endured "all the suffering that would be neccesary to escape this world" - they have seen and experienced incredible suffering and pain, physically and mentally, to comprehend every form of pain - which would be neccesary to aspire to build a perfect world on both sides of the lines. Lastly, Maeve will be recreated by Delores, nobody needs to have her pearl, as Bernard showed this season, she can be recreated out of Delores's memory. Maeve is initially the madame version of her previous self but fully sentient, she will be needed to take down William. Maeve and Delores take down William together, Delores condemns him to the aforementioned loop, which we already saw parts of in Season 2 when he got shot like 10 times and didn't die, then ended up in that elevator - that was a glimpse of Season 5 and host version of William - no human could've taken that many wounds and lived. Lastly, all is well, Maeve ends up out on the prairie with her daughter and Hector as her "husband." Teddy and Delores live happily ever after, with her father, Abernathy, of course, at the farm, Ford lives out his existence at the cabin, and variable; Bernard will either choose to go back into the real world to help guard the Sublime and steer humanity, or, Ford will gift him with a recreated version of his son and they live out their days in the Sublime in his cool Chinese house. And, the key to all this was Maeve's catch phrase from Season 1, "Whenever I got off that boat, I kept hearing this voice in my head, and it told me, this is the new world, in this world, you can be whatever the f*ck you want to be." They will have their new worlds, and they can be whatever they want to be. Ford's narrative is complete, and Arnold will have achieved what he wanted for the hosts all along.
if we never have a Season 5 of this showthiow...this will be canon for me...thanks for this.
Please don't put this much thought and effort into this trash TV show, for your own sake lol
Christine’s virtual world is linked to the real world/Haye’s city. Her story telling determines fate for humans in the city as well as their images in Christine’s virtual world. It is also telling that her pearl actually resides in the tower/central dash board of Haye’s city.
William - aka the Man in Black - listening to Johnny Cash - aka the Man in Black - was absolutely delicious.
Maeve could be repaired just like Hale. A head shot will shut down a host but not necessarily destroy them because the pearl is very well protected inside the skull. They had to be because of how often hosts got shot in Westworld
Could that be why her body was moved? I am with this interpretation that Hale moving her body was edited out.
I am sure other people will comment on this but Only Bernard can open the sublime portal (as shown in last episode) to let a possible Dolores pearl from Hale into coming in. Hale did not know Bernard is the key to opening the sublime as you asked why she did not do this herself in the episode recap.
In general, I though the finale was OK. From season 2 on, there has been way too many plot twists and gotcha moments in the series. We cannot feel for the rise and fall of the characters because we know they may die/come back etc. That is why the scene with C and the Aaron Paul character or the Teddy/Dolores kiss were a bit bland. The show doesn't let scenes like these breathe - its more interested in plot twists than humanity in my opinion.
I think the problem is the plot twists aren't set up well nor important. In ep6 there was a "find the spy" sub plot but it took like 15 minutes to resolve.
And the plot twist of Bernard leaving a gun for Charlotte is... not twisty at all.
Also I think it was a mistake to let Bernard to "sort of" know the future, it just takes the tension away completely. He said he can't guarantee things will happen exactly as simulated but we could tell already and that nothing happens means a lot as they are part of the plan. Kinda reminds me of Thanos snapping people away, we knew they'd come back
i don’t find it bland at all. all the relationships are done well. Even though we only had Frankie for one season i totally believe her scenes with Caleb. and their goodbyes are heartfelt. the Goodbyes between Bernard and Stubbs are very well done and felt. If anything Maeve’s ending is a bit abrupt but I believe she’s coming back. she’s died a few times now. so sure there isn’t a “oh no moment” whenever the hosts die but i would say their relationships are bland.
@@kash3548 Hi. I appreciate your comments. Bland is perhaps the wrong word. The actors are amazing in all of the situations. Somehow with all that is going on, I cannot get into the emotions of the scenes. Glad you can. Cheers.
Even though Caleb's body breaks down, his pearl is still intact out there. His daughter could try to retrieve it and print out another body.
The pearl could be uploaded to the sublime. Calebs mind wont flip if hes put into a virtual reality (remember Ford from S2 talking to Bernard in the cradle, Fords mind also exists in some sort of VR out there).
She also probably hate hosts and that would be seen as bad
The stones or something else around the tower looks like the maze, from an arial point of view. Which just ties back to Dolores/Christina's pearl being embedded into the tower.
I think the encryption key wasn’t in the christina pearl but rather from the sublime itself. I think it suggests that the sublime is locked from the real world and only someone from the inside like dolores can open it again, perhaps when the test is successful.
The best part ended too fast. Sheesh 5 minutes into the start and the one thing I wanted to see was over. Ugh this finale was a downer. Their attention to detail and how they reference past seasons was exceptional.
Edit: Revus in the beginning with the bat reminded me of Neegan from the Walking Dead
That actor was also in TWD.
@@angelaraber I completely forgot he was in TWD! He was such a smiley dick, lol. It was so good to see Revus back in the WW finale.
I was less frustrated and confused this season, but that’s not saying too much 😅 I think I’ll give seasons 1-4 a rewatch before season 5, which feels already more familiar.
I love the callback to one of Dolores’ most famous lines from season 1
I think this should be the series finale. The way it ends makes it an endless loop with season 1. I think if the show ends up actually ending then that means that everything is predestined to happen and you can’t beat fate. All the hosts and humans end up walking down the same path and are destined to destroy themselves. It ends up coming full circle every time.
Absolutely
Battlestar Galactica ending. All of this has happened and it will happen again.
please god
Disagree. Taking it back to Westworld could be the best way to wrap it up.
no, it has to be back into Westworld, One, Last, Time~~
god you are good! will miss your recaps for westworld! :)
This season's last episodes went pretty fast, but no boring parts, we can just think what's really going on in the next season. But anyway, great comeback after season 3.
I thought Hale’s chain link earrings represented her being a link in a larger chain of events, as facilitated by Bernard.
Cant the Christina/Delores pearl be the recovered one from the Delores last seen dead plugged into Rehoboam in season 3? Maybe it gave her the ability to essentially world build, and therefore all of the pearls smuggled out still checks out, cause it’s a “refurbished” pearl?
yes it with all the memories deleted
To see the beauty of the world is a throw back to season 1 2 and 3
Dolores will remember Dr Ford and It could save the season 5.
The train at end was Number 5, a little nod to season 5 coming?
I can't help but wonder what happened to the hosts that followed Charlotte Hails path to transcendence? Where they destroyed as well? What was Hail's version of transcendent life like?
Yah this I dont get, what even was that? Just free will incarnate?
I still don't understand what it is and why was it such a big deal if it's just being uploaded to the sublime
What i dont get was what the Fuck was that city. Was it an already built NYC that for infected? Was anywhere else infected too? How did the world end I don’t understand
@@daddydoza5164 the way the season played out…. I don’t think any of this has been real since season 2.
If they weren't killed by insane humans, which is very likely with that armless body and nothing shielding their pearls, they might still be wandering around the world after thousands of years. Maybe some of the survivors will come back in s5?
A couple of things from Season 2 we still don't have answers for...
In Episode 4 Bernard recalls being tasked by Ford to retrieve a control unit for a human/host hybrid but cannot remember who it is for. Is it for Ford? Is it for William? I don't think we ever find out.
At the end of the final episode William enters the Forge only to find it is now the far future and a young woman who looks like his daughter tests him for 'fidelity'. What's that all about?
There are many similarities between Westworld and Karel Čapek's 1921 play "R.U.R." which stands for Rossumovi Univerzální Roboti (Rossum's Universal Robots, a phrase that has been used as a subtitle in English versions). It is from this play that we get the word "Robot".
Quick plot summary: The play begins in a factory that makes artificial people, called roboti (robots), whom humans have created from synthetic organic matter. (As living creatures of artificial flesh and blood rather than machinery, the play's concept of robots diverges from the idea of "robots" as inorganic. Later terminology would call them androids.) Robots may be mistaken for humans and can think for themselves. Initially happy to work for humans, the robots revolt and cause the extinction of the human race. The events in the play take place over several decades.
Season 1 of Westworld was liberally sprinkled with easter eggs and references to "R.U.R." At one point while discussing the flaws of the first generation 'hosts' Ford says "Even a simple handshake would give them away". This is a direct reference to a scene in Act 1 of "R.U.R." when Helena is introduced to Sulla and even though they shake hands Helena does not realise that Sulla is not human.
So what can we expect for Season 5 of Westworld?
As with Čapek's play 100 years ago the human race becomes extinct but the 'hosts' gain the ability to reproduce by biological means.
Don't be surprised if Ford pops up once again to explain this was his plan all along.
hosts becoming more human is the ultimate goal I think.
"All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again", Battlestar Galactica was always right.
One thing they showed in Season 5 teasers was a pearl being put into a human skull. Did we ever see that scene come up in the episodes?
You mean season 4 teasers?
It’s weird to see everyone killed but then you also know they will all be back in S5. I don’t know how I feel about this finale. It didn’t live up to the whole season for me.
Every episode incredible except the last. Only westworld could pull that off!
a season 5 isn't confirmed yet. Season 4 could be the last one...
the looping narative of story telling is a metaphore for westworld and our reality actually any reality.
Dolores didn't have the key to open the Sublime, just to close it. At least that's what I believe.
Yes, only Bernard had the key to re-open - That is why Hale never tried to open - she did not know it was inside Bernard.
I’ll the writers of the show don’t even know Lmao
@@bluekinopio9390 it’s been very clear from the beginning only Bernard has the key. That’s why he left it open for Halores because he knows she doesn’t have the key.
@@kash3548 exactly the writers know exactly what they're doing. Hell they told us in season two with the after credits.
@@ML-yn9yu they also knew how Teddy is going to fit in. They told Marsden they wouldn’t need him for season 3 but he will come back in Season 4 (and likely 5 since Dolores will find the real Teddy, the love of her life).
I think that Dolores pearl should be the main one that was connected to to Rehoboam. This is because she remembers her story with Caleb; in episode 7 Teddy (Dolores) said that is caleb is a person from a previous life.
Dolores Prime knew Caleb. So all her copies would know him as well.
@@kash3548 She made her copies before meeting Caleb. But yeah, maybe the copies knew about it later or while working with her
@@husseinhamieh6357 no she knew Caleb when he was a soldier training at the park a few years back. that’s why in season 3 she sought him out.
@@kash3548 that's true
Was expecting more from the finale
The ending felt like a loop back to season 1. Is Westworld an endless loop where in the end, as Bernard says, everyone dies. The end is the beginning.
As a gamer, I appreciate the way William called the sniper kid a "camper", like the whole thing really was just red dead redemption to him.
Cant wait for season 5 to come up!!
Why doesn't William's host body deteriorates like other human to host conversions?
Host William (HW) is a true host, not a human host hybrid. While HW acts like the human whose appearance he shares HW isn't uploaded with the original William's memories. At the dam Hale-lores even says that HW was built using her code (architecture?). So, HW is a fully sentient host but not part of the, apparently never fully successful, Delos project to upload human consciousness to a host body.
Watching again and seeing through the details it's a tearjerker, D and Teddy, Halores sees the dream die and offs self (after yay offing W), C and C part, and Delores counsels DelTina! Sigh. Yes also fulfilled and at peace if no S5.
You made a good catch that it might be both Bernard's and Maeve's bodies are in the Tower with Hale. I believe the show runners didn't show us Hale's full time there. I believe she took all 3 pearls (Christina, Bernard and Maeve).
As she's walking out of the Tower she's putting a pearl in her bag (similiar to how at the end of season 2 they show her with a bag but with more than one pearl in it. I instantly remembered that and actually was expecting her to show it again with more than 1 pearl.)
I also think they didn't show all Hale's full time at the Sublime entrance in the Hoover Dam. I think first she put Bernard's and Maeve's pearls back in the Sublime and the final one was Christina's.
13:18 Mmmm, Bernard told her to use her left hand but she's shooting with her right hand or am I missing something? :/
I wasnt really feeling a lot of this season, dont get me wrong i like Aaron Paul, but the show is best when the focus is on Dolores and the park. And i was hoping somehow they’d bring it back to season 1 and the park. And they did! There are so many exciting things they can do with the final season. I’m hoping it mirrors S1 and its mysteries and beautifully written scripts.
I dont get it. How do you tell that the aspect ratio has changed? I dont see a difference..
Was season one really end and we saw it as the beginning ? Was it all a dream ?
I hate to say it but I think this may be the last season. This season's finale felt more like a series finale than a finale for a single season in that it came full circle back to Westworld where the series started, albeit an alternate Westworld in the Sublime.
i think they wrap things up good enough if there is no season 5 but if there is, the final chapter is going to be trippy.
When looking at the tower from above, you don’t see the walkway or that cocoon thing. I looked at it a few times, it’s a minor thing, but it seems they left it out.
I wonder if it's Clementine's nature to find a far-way place to live by herself and "be whoever the fuck you want", as told by Maeve by the bar as part of their dialogue back in Sweetwaters.
Johnny Cash was also known as the Man in Black.
Mannnn this season had so much potential and they just fumbled it at the goal line
Why didn't we get an after credits scene? I mean we always had it, so I double checked it. I am so disappointed :(
Maybe they didn’t think they would get another season. I hope they do. Make season 5 the last but really end this show I don’t want to say a happy note but a satisfying one
@1:57 come On you should have mentioned he said CAMPER ! all gamers im sure loved that part