I fully agree. I'm in my last semester of university and my stress levels are through the roof just with school alone. I literally can't imagine going through such terrible family drama as well as it being displayed all over the internet. My heart aches for her
I agre with you but for as traumatic as it can be right now, the fact that she is speaking up is an extrimely good thing, it means she is opening her eyes and she is not brainwahed and will eventually live her life freely. But yeah she is so young and going trough something bigger than her, hope she has good friends to support her.
@@basicallyapodcast5834 no one of the Aunts should. They are all standing behind Shari and supporting her. If Kevin can’t man up and put a stop to this one of the aunts should be awarded custody so they children aren’t separated
Kevin might be a little better than Ruby but he let all this happen, before taking care of the kids he needs his own therapy and healing to proof it wont Happen again. Shari is too young she needs and deserves to live her life. I think Bonnie or the other sibilings could really help
@@basicallyapodcast5834 I honestly think that while some of this statement could be true, I genuinely think he was almost what I would call brainwashing. He always seemed more subdued and just go with the flow with all of the rules that Ruby had set, but I don't think he's all good.
I mean yeah. That’s what my parents did. I honestly think that’s how it should be unless there are extenuating factors like a disability or such. Both my brother and I have been out of the house since we turned 18 and went off to college. I moved to and live in a completely different state at 22. My parents pay for nothing. I would die if I was still living with my parents at this age
Why have children if you don't even like them, or want them around after 18? Only thing I can think of is she never cared about the children, just how they made her look by having them, not raising them to be well adjusted and healthy and whole.
@@MR-zq5gt there can be lots of reasons to not immediately kick your kid out at 18. It’s very callous to think once they’re legal adults they should never struggle or need help and support. My home will always be welcome to my children as long as they have a plan to eventually leave and strike out on their own.
However - my parents have always made it clear that they would allow my brother and I to live at home as a temporary situation such as changing jobs etc etc.. my parents have also been very generous and have contributed financially to my 401Ks and have been available for financial advice ( my mom is a CPA) needless to say they may have not let us remain at home once we turned 18 but they are the good mix of providing support, advice, and being involved without being helicopter parents. … they also did a good job teaching my brother and I life skills and how to live and function independently. So they aren’t cruel monsters for not letting us to continue to live at home as adults .. that being said this family is straight up abusive and most likely would not be this generous or kind to their children and would just cut them off at 18 without any support or ongoing advice which I do NOT support
Unless it starts getting mainstream news exposure, they’ll continue to ignore it. It’s sad but widespread outrage is all they will listen to, and Reddit isn’t enough.
I wish this was true, but like others said unless this gets mainstream attention OR they start losing money nothing will change 😞 If we could figure out a way to impact their wallets we would have an effective method…money speaks louder than any backlash or controversy.
You're expecting a few hundred people to watch thousands and thousans of channels, millions of videos uploaded every day, unless they know specifically of the channel's name, it'll be quit difficult to keep on eye on a channel.. out of millions Besides, RUclips can't really do anything, the most they can do is ban the channel, but that won't stop the children living in an abusive and controlled home.
This woman is supposed to be a "marriage counselor", yet all of her ex patients claim she literally ruined their lives and marriages. And if you don't believe them.. Ruby and Kevin seemed to be doing just fine, as far as their marriage, until this woman weaseled her way into their house. Now not only is her marriage crumbling, but the only family that still talks to her are the kids who aren't old enough to leave her. How can this woman still sit there and give advice to others like she's this all-knowing, enlightened person? What's more baffling is that some people actually believe her still.
Yeah….her reviews are horrible. So many People from years ago detailing how she destroyed their marriages & created complete chaos. The woman’s absolutely twisted.
It was so bad the state pulled her medical license because more than one person taped her manipulation. She was only allowed to practice after her suspension by having a third part IN THE ROOM listening to her sessions for six months. That’s a whopper of a strike against her and shows how much trouble she was in. I say she needs to lose her license period.
I mean, it's already such a wild story, I wouldn't be surprised? The whole group thing is so cultish tho, I'd assume it's more of a control thing. Who knows tho. The Jodi lady seems to be really controlling to all of her clients. Huge red flags from this lady. Honestly I'm still confused why she was ever given back her license to practice. She's violated so many ethics.
It's worse than that since they're Mormon. It's a lot more Handmaids Tale-esque because they believe in marriage between men & woman, but Jodi seems weirdly invested in Ruby's private life. 😨
my red flags started when they sent Chad to that "survival" type of camp a few years back after finding out some "stuff" he was doing and because they were not happy with the circle of people he surrounded himself with. Hope all these kids have the support system needed to help them navigate this.
@@ellemmenn2930 They'll hand out those licenses to just about anyone as long as you meet their requirements. I've had the wonderful misfortune of some absolutely *DOGSHIT* therapists here in the south.
@@ellemmenn2930 atomic hit it on the head. As long as you do their work their way, you can go from there and do whatever. I have met a few that would manipulate their clients.
I've been watching you cover the 8 passengers situation since very near the beginning, and I gotta say... This is so much more wild than I ever thought it would be
That's how I feel too, like holy shit this is going from bad to very very serious. Ruby's basically founded a cult with Jodi, and with apparently pulling her kids out of school and Kevin and other family members not speaking to her ... I feel horrible for those poor children that are still stuck with her, I hope they can get out.
I knew the 8 Passengers were problematic but oh my god this is way worse than what i ever thought it would be. For women who run their mouths about "truth" so much, Jodi and Ruby are pretty damn delusional.
@@itsdanielleslife Bonnie and Ellie are just as delusional as Ruby. They are the modt materialistic people ever and their kids are only wanted around when Bonnie and Ellie feel like having them around . The kids are afraid of them you can see it in their eyes . Ellie doesn't even want ber kids around after they are no longer a baby and Joel and Jarret do everything for those two . If they are not buying houses or vehicles, getting parcels deliveted or vacationing every 5 minutes then they are in bed with a headache while the kids do all the chores . The entire family is a mess and it is from being raised by Jennifer Griffiths...she was so awful to Ruby growing up that Ruby developed a head twitch and a blinking problem that both disappeared when she left home at 18. Grandma Griffiths was a scary lady and stayed in bed all day with whatever baby while Ruby ran the house . That's where it all started .
its good that chad moved in with kevin and while ruby is a concerning problem right now, kevin isn't that far off from her, but I hope its at least a little better for chad and hopefully the other kids can get out too
I feel Kevin was just doing crap to please ruby. Ruby let it slip her and Kevin argue a lot. She even made a video where she said Russell asked her if they were divorcing due to arguing like his friends parents did
true but shes also like a narcissist. people like her that are controlling and manipulative know how to get what they want and how to convince others to do what they want them to do. my dad was the same way and once he left my mom became a better mom x1000 🤷♀️
What you mentioned about Shari finding comfort and Mormonism, basically from 3:04-3:54 - I respect you so much for saying that. That was really kind of you, a very good thing to say. Thanks for that! (Edit - I'm not Mormon, I'm Christian, and I know only a little about the religion, but no faith deserves to be judged based on fellow followers who may not be portraying it correctly)
@@Bluebke19 I'm sorry but the "normal ones" are progressive mormons. That is not the standard and not what the church teaches, its an extremely toxic cult that if Shari can find comfort in, cool, but that doesn't mean that she's the "normal". Ruby is far more of what the churches average mormon looks like
@@GothAProblem Then I guess the progressive ones are becoming more and more common because I’m Mormon, and I’ve been a Mormon in 6 different states, and I can assure you that Ruby is far far far from the typical Mormon anywhere I’ve been and certainly not what the church advocates.
@@Bluebke19 You are an extreme outlier. Any and all Mormons I know personally and that are in my family are straight up vile evil people. Mormonism is a cult by all philosophical standards and has incredibly racist origins.
Thank you Markie!!! You are the most amazing and mature person to go over the whole Mormon religion situation. Right now this is about the kids. I grew up totally normal in a Mormon household…. Not like this crazy lady. She’s off her rocker! Poor kids.
Shari is so much stronger than I was. It took me until the age of 30 to cut off communication with my dad. I 100% commend her for the strength it took, especially with the younger kids still being at home. It's hard to disconnect when you feel like you have to stick around for the siblings you want to protect so badly
There's a whole thing going on in the Evangelical community where people basically are trying to bring about the handmaid's tale as a reality. These people are part of that effort.
@@louhortonsculpture yup, confirm this has been going on for DECADES they are just now getting mainstream attention. Whenever I hear someone talking about “living in principals/the truth”, it’s an instant red flag.
@@rheakg Based on the best-selling novel by Margaret Atwood, this series is set in Gilead, a totalitarian society in what used to be part of the United States. Gilead is ruled by a fundamentalist regime that treats women as property of the state, and is faced with environmental disasters and a plummeting birth rate. In a desperate attempt to repopulate a devastated world, the few remaining fertile women are forced into sexual servitude. One of these women, Offred, is determined to survive the terrifying world she lives in, and find the daughter that was taken from her.
@@rheakg it's a dystopian novel by Margaret Atwood. It's basically set in the former USA now The Republic of Gilead. Birth rates had declined so severely and Christian evangelicals take over to round up women who have a history of fertility to make them "Handmaids" who are given to married men of power to be used as vessels to breed. Women are no longer allowed to read, go to school, etc. There's also a Hulu series based on it that's very well done and greatly expands on the novel. Definitely recommend both the book and the show, if it's something you can handle. Definitely not for everyone tho. A lot of aspects and events reflect historical events such as Iran during the Islamic Revolution, etc. The book and the show are brought up a lot when it comes to evangelical Christians and similar extremists because they've gained a lot of influence and power in American politics over the last 50 or so years. They generally have the goal of chipping away at certain rights and regulations such dismantling separation of church and state, abolishing marriage equality, etc. If you want to learn more about it and just about these groups in general Fundie Fridays is a good channel to check out.
I wonder if Ruby and Jodi are in a relationship? (And I am not talking about the working relationship!) Why would your business partner move into your private home? 🤔🙄
I've also been wondering this for a hot min. If they aren't,I'd say it's because of their religious beliefs about same sex relationships, but I feel that Jodi at least is romantically obsessed with Ruby and is cultivating a relationship that is as close to romantic as she can get without the backlash of their cult. Whatever they actually think their relationship is, from outsiders looking in, it definitely seems like they are in an abusive, romantic relationship that jodi is controlling
@@nikkyro03 Yes, I agree. I've been thinking the same thing for a while. They are like sick/evil soul mates in a way because they both have horrifying god complexes and a gross pleasure with manipulating and abusing people. The righteousness is just their cloak. I think it's only a matter of time that it becomes at LEAST like a relationship if it hasn't already.
I feel absolutely awful for all the kids, but especially the younger 4. It sickens me to think that they are trapped in a house with this narcissistic monster. I used to watch 8 passengers (when I was much younger and clueless to the many things wrong with it) and those kids are beautiful people who do not deserve to be confined and manipulated like this. I hope that the situation changes for the better very very quickly.
if abuse is going on, the kids being taken out of school is a huge red flag. that is so worrying, without the safety net that school provides a lot of abused kids fall through the cracks
as an ex-mormon who lives in Utah and had a really rough time in the religion I dont see anything wrong with Shari finding comfort in the religion. Honestly I love that she has something to help her and hope for the best with her and her siblings, they dont deserve any of this.
(Edited to add that I am referring to Ruby. Sorry. My brain is a bit off tonight.) She is not finding “comfort” in the “religion”. She is radicalizing her interpretation, and wielding as a weapon to avoid accountability for her actions. She regularly shames and attacks any individual who is not living their life as she demands. She cannot hide behind that veil of “it’s just my religion”.
@@DreamingByDay you know what, I agree with you. But if any part of Mormonism makes her feel better at this time then I don’t see any problem, she is going through an incredibly hard thing and even the littlest things matter.
This reminds me of a docuseries I watched called Sins of Our Mother or something like that. The mother was in some crazy cult too and she killed her family 😢
I feel bad for the kids. I imagine the older ones just want to make their opinions known without it becoming a big thing lol like I'm sure they want the world to know they don't agree with everything ruby had been saying and doing, but at the same time I doubt they're all itching to do interviews and sht. I don't even know how I would handle something like that at 30, let alone as a teen. Edit: ooooooh wow its even worse, and scarier, than I thought.
I was on a plane about to take off, and I heard a woman in the row in front of me say to her daughter, " 'Nervous' is just 'excited' with a bad attitude." MAJOR Ruby vibes
I feel bad for the kids, I cant imagine how awful it must be to live in that house. Isolated from family and friends and raised on this cult beliefes. We all know how crazy strict and controlling she is and I feel like we all just see a small portion of it, who knows what happens behind closed doors . This is all happening under our eyes and I wish there was something we could do. There are still 4 young children living in that house, hope Rubys sibilings would jump in and get them out asap.
they tick all the boxes for cult. I'm most concerned for the children. Pulling them from outside interventions via homeschool allows abuse, grooming and indoctrination to rage unchecked and unabated. There is no longer a safe space for these kids. And the rhetoric that jody and ruby spew is promoting emotional and physical abuse of children. It's distressing and I hope that CPS will be able to save the children.
@@Garbeaux. as a Mormon I'm telling you that's not true... We believe that we can eternally progress and grow just like we can during our life on earth (like getting older), and that progression has no limit (due to eternity being forever). We don't think we'll become Egyptian style gods or anything 😂 that is just a simplification of a simple principle
Yes but I’m also concerned the kids will go into foster care. If there’s a way for them to go to their dad or aunts & uncles that would be a better situation.
@@Garbeaux. the folks I know that are LDS are not like. I have not read the Book of Mormon but they never spoke of stuff like that. They were very family oriented and it was a supportive community. Frankly I think religion in general is a freaking cult though!
Putting connexions behind a paywall seems like its just a way to manage what information gets out/ mitigate fallout. Sad thing about this whole thing is that stuff like this isnt uncommon anymore. So many get sucked into cult like ideologies and its tearing so many families apart.
Why on earth would people think it’s ok to reach out to this young woman, Shari? She’s a stranger to them. It’s not their place to contact her. I’m stunned that people believe it is ok to do this. I’m glad she asked for privacy. I can’t stand family channels for reasons such as this. These kids have no privacy. She never chose to be online. Her parents made that decision for her and now strangers are messaging obviously her while she’s trying to focus on her studies, adjusting to being away at the university and finally she has to deal with a VERY public rift in her family. I have a lot empathy for her situation. Our daughter is the same age.
Who the hell would pay for someone to just tell you to either disown,abandon and a bunch of other extremely bad things. also I am aware that of the things I mentioned do mean the same thing just done differently
This is literally so crazy. I get home from school and find out Ned from the try guys was fired for CHEATING, Ruby and Kevin split apparently and is apart of a cult, and I failed my AP class test. Mind blowing
They're just talking in circles. Nothing is ever explained. They never define truth outside of what they believe it to be even when it contradicts a previous statement. If you happen to call out said contradiction you get told you are being aggressive, deceptive, and allowing your emotions to get the better of you. I.e. Momma knows best. Super culty. God I pray everyday for these kids to get out.
Ruby genuinely couldn't get it right. On one hand she made her kindergartener go to school with no lunch, because packing lunch was the five-year-olds responsibility; on the other hand, the kids suddenly wanting nothing to do with her is a SIN and her reaction is to want more control over their lives. Some people just can't be told how to act right and Ruby's one of them. She is too unwell to respond rationally to the well-founded criticisms being made of her. Baiting her or arguing with her just fuels her ego and revitalises her victim complex. This woman needs absolutely TOTAL silence and disengagement from her audience, so that the only person left to listen to is herself.
My heart goes out to Shari. She's a lovely young woman and I'm delighted her faith is bringing her comfort ❤️ I hope she is in close touch with her father and brother (I'm pretty sure she is) and that they take comfort from Ruby's brother and sister's support. Ruby has blindly followed Jodi down a dangerous path. They are a dangerous couple, caught up in Jodi's cult. I just hope that the 4 children, still under Ruby's control, are saved and reunited with their siblings, father and extended Griffiths family. Cults are highly dangerous and Jodi's/Ruby's one can only end in pain, if they are not stopped. Thankyou for taking a sympathetic approach to this awful dilemma. We need to show some love to the children caught up in this.
We need to crack down on cults again. Bet Jodi and Ruby move to Hawaii. It’s cult central. Kids being taken out of school is step 1. Vallow/Daybell vibes.
that being said, it sadly makes it a lot easier for people who are already in one cult to join more. that's why it was so easy for ruby to join this one. hopefully her family seeing the similarities between connexions and mormonism will help them break out of it edit accidentally spelled 'ruby' as 'rub'
Thank you for your comment about Shari leaning on her faith during this difficult time. As an active member of that church, it was so nice to hear someone remind everyone else that it's okay that she's practicing her faith and leaning on her beliefs and that doesn't mean she's supportive of her mothers' action. I appreciate it.
From a marketing standpoint, those outlandish promises their giving are so nuanced that the only people that will fall for that are people who are extremely valuable. This feels a bit snake oil/MLM scammy. Like they’ll be able to fix your life and you’ll have no problems. I hope this doesn’t last long.
I know this is off topic but man, do I love markie’s voice and accent! I could listen to him read me the words off the back of a pack of toilet paper and I would still feel like he was intelligent and well versed ❤😂
New sub, your channel just popped up on my feed. I am clearly out of the loop as I have never heard of 8 passengers before, but of course down the rabbit hole I go. Your channel has been very helpful on my 8 passenger rabbit hole journey. I don’t have a lot of sympathy for these adults. I am a retired nurse of 38 years….Jody is a medical professional! Ever heard the phrase “ first do no harm” if Jody lied about her clients, was manipulative, and broke oaths of confidence once..she can do it again. I am disgusted. That said, My heart just breaks for these kids. Who like most children just want to know and feel their parents love, and feel safe and secure in their care. Cults are insidious and destroy families.
I’m so worried for those children. This is the saddest and scariest thing to hear about them so far. Have you seen Sins of our Mother on Netflix? This is giving me vibes of that. 😢😢
As a Mormon, I want to say THANK YOU MARKIE !!! My religion definitely has some extremists as well as extremist sects, but there are millions of normal people who are regular Christians within the Mormon church. Thank you so much for not just assuming that we are all horrible people because of the crazy Mormons that do exist. We definitely appreciate it
Theres children battling cancer in the hospitals who could really use that $21. And they'll actually be grateful and talk to you and won't limit the amount of words you can say to them.
I agree, don't contact any of these people. If I were raised in an emotionally abusive household, the last thing I would want is for a bunch of strangers from the internet to contact me. Especially if I was trying to move on from the situation.
There was also a video a few years ago where they told everyone it was fake and their youngest was told I'm not your mum at such a young age too I feel so bad for them all
Great video man. This story is crazy. I hope there’s a happy ending at the end of this for the sake of the kids. I have a feeling this is just the beginning of this saga.
As someone who grew up with a very toxic mother and having to navigate those feelings and dealing with that trauma is very hard. I can’t imagine having people knowing about the the abuse/trauma and talk about it on the internet ❤ thinking about Shari and hope she can find peace
3:29 Yes! Thank you. I get tired of having to explain that we aren’t like this we just have some bad apples in the bunch. Ruby’s extreme views from some of the things I’ve seen her say aren’t even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ‘s beliefs and opinions. She’s seems to be preaching without research and it feels very cult like and makes me upset.
Thank you SO much for commenting that this isn't what Mormons are really like! I am a mormon and I have been embarrassed from the start that Ruby has been 'representing' us - her beliefs are not in line with our religious beliefs, she is an extremist and I hope people know that mainstream Mormons are nothing like her and her craziness.
Same ! I have been so embarrassed about how she's acting because she's one of the biggest non-religious centered LDS public figures at the time. I'm just glad Markie isn't bashing us 😁
Same! And yes, he is one of the few people on the internet who has the decency to not bash an entire religious group based on the actions of a few outliers.
Where do these certifications come from? I could certify you today as the RUclips Master and it wouldn't mean sh*t. Her "mental fitness certification" lacks any kind of credible authority.
Years ago I spent way too much time on a RUclips mom gossip site (embarrassing, I know😂) and there were so many other things discussed about Ruby on there that were clear red flags very early on. Now all the evidence of some of this is scrubbed from the Internet at this point, but we were a very sluethy gossip forum and while there was always lots of speculation, this stuff was confirmed all with evidence from the vlogs and their old blog entries. Here’s some tidbits I can’t remember. 1. Russel broke his FEMUR when he was a baby. Ruby waited ONE WEEK before taking him in to the ER to get checked out. She claims he “rolled off the couch”. The femur is the strongest bone in the body (the hardest to break) AND this occurred at an age when Russell’s bones would still be soft and slightly flexible (harder to break). It would take a tremendous amount of force from rolling off the couch to break an infant’s femur. Major red flag. -does this remind anyone of a story with Shari’s stomach as a baby?? -Russell didn’t walk until he was over two and had some “other delays”. Little sketchy if you ask me. 2. Ruby once referenced a difficult time in her life around after the 4 baby (and a number of miscarriages). During this time, she didnt change Julie’s clothes for days at a time and left her “filthy”. She referenced a lot of neglect that she seemed to regret. Her mental health sounded very poor at the time. She didn’t outright say it, but it was highly speculated (based on some references and avoidance certain topics when she was describing this time) that she was giving hints to having dealt with a pill addiction during this time. -she once gave Julie a “karen cut” To add some volume to the back of her head because (as she explained) it was flat from when she was a baby. I can’t remember exactly why now, but she referenced something that made us believe she knew about the flat head issue when she was a baby and felt she was the cause of it and regretted not doing the helmeting to fix it. Anyways, this are just a few of the CRAZY things from there. The site crashed but I’m sure it’s archived somewhere. I’d love to see someone do a deep dive into this. This family had red flags from the beginning. I didn’t have Ruby joining a cult on my future predictions bingo card, but I’m not surprised at all by these turn of events.
Thank you for saying that what ruby and Jodi are preaching isn’t what Mormons believe. It’s hard for my religion to be bashed on something that isn’t even taught in our church but I appreciate it🤍
Ruby is just honestly really bad at everything. Like bad at being a mom, bad at being a wife, not that great at being a human in general. It must suck to be her. I think I understand why she's clinging so hard to the whole Truth thing
I hope ALL of Ruby's children can be safe and learn better and the differences between how they parents should have acted and how they want to live their lives now
Pausing just to say "thank you" about the church separation point. I'm a former member and it kinda bugs that (love him but it bugs..) DCP lumps them all in as what the church says..... It says to do the exact opposite of all this(that connections say) so please don't mesh them all. There's for sure problems and weirdos that flds it but, it's not what you are suggested to do by it
if anyone has seen “sins of my mother” on netflix, this is what this situation is starting to turn into, very sad, i hope it gets stopped before someone could end up dead
this is shockingly similar to the lori vallow case and i sincerely hope it doesn’t escalate to that degree. if you haven’t you NEED to watch the sins of our mother doc on netflix- this seems so scarily close.
Thanks for posting this, people need to stop hiding behind religion be it Mormonism Southern Baptist, Catholic, to justify abusing children Anyone who hurts a kid no matter the age of the kid and regardless of the relationship pushing a child out doesn't give anyone the right to be maliciously cruel and abusive to a kid
How are these people even allowed to charge $21 for advice when they give horrible advice? Is their “freedom” the 5 extra minutes she has a day from not packing her child lunch? Ugh this is just frustrating.
Surprisingly, when I used to live in nauvoo, which is where the Mormon temple is located. A lot of the Mormon population and families who were more in tune with the Mormon faith were actually really nice and welcoming even with my autism. The more lax community would think I'm weird and their kids would make fun of me.
It hurts my heart for these children, and it angers me so much that such a flat out evil person gets to have children in this life when I can't. I just want to love on those babies. I feel like something has to be done about this dangerous cult.
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
I feel so awful for Shari. College was such a hard time for me, I can’t imagine going through this as well.
I fully agree. I'm in my last semester of university and my stress levels are through the roof just with school alone. I literally can't imagine going through such terrible family drama as well as it being displayed all over the internet. My heart aches for her
I agre with you but for as traumatic as it can be right now, the fact that she is speaking up is an extrimely good thing, it means she is opening her eyes and she is not brainwahed and will eventually live her life freely. But yeah she is so young and going trough something bigger than her, hope she has good friends to support her.
Luckily Shari has always been a great student and she always loved learning so hopefully college is more of an escape than another burden for her😌
I hope she can lean on her dad or her aunts for support
@@Jenny-bz1uc what’s your major
Kevin needs to take Ruby to court for full custody or prep a case for parental alienation.
kevin is no better, trust me. i think shari should have legal guardianship over them bc atp she's the most sane.
@@basicallyapodcast5834 Exactly. They'd be better off with Shari or any of the other family members who have disconnected from Kevin and Ruby.
@@basicallyapodcast5834 no one of the Aunts should. They are all standing behind Shari and supporting her. If Kevin can’t man up and put a stop to this one of the aunts should be awarded custody so they children aren’t separated
Kevin might be a little better than Ruby but he let all this happen, before taking care of the kids he needs his own therapy and healing to proof it wont Happen again. Shari is too young she needs and deserves to live her life. I think Bonnie or the other sibilings could really help
@@basicallyapodcast5834 I honestly think that while some of this statement could be true, I genuinely think he was almost what I would call brainwashing. He always seemed more subdued and just go with the flow with all of the rules that Ruby had set, but I don't think he's all good.
At least Ruby has been training her kids to not rely on her for anything since birth. 🤷♀️
She said that once they are 18, their out. Off to college. And she doesn't plan to let them back. I think my face turned to stone I was shocked.
I mean yeah. That’s what my parents did. I honestly think that’s how it should be unless there are extenuating factors like a disability or such. Both my brother and I have been out of the house since we turned 18 and went off to college. I moved to and live in a completely different state at 22. My parents pay for nothing. I would die if I was still living with my parents at this age
Why have children if you don't even like them, or want them around after 18?
Only thing I can think of is she never cared about the children, just how they made her look by having them, not raising them to be well adjusted and healthy and whole.
@@MR-zq5gt there can be lots of reasons to not immediately kick your kid out at 18. It’s very callous to think once they’re legal adults they should never struggle or need help and support. My home will always be welcome to my children as long as they have a plan to eventually leave and strike out on their own.
However - my parents have always made it clear that they would allow my brother and I to live at home as a temporary situation such as changing jobs etc etc.. my parents have also been very generous and have contributed financially to my 401Ks and have been available for financial advice ( my mom is a CPA) needless to say they may have not let us remain at home once we turned 18 but they are the good mix of providing support, advice, and being involved without being helicopter parents. … they also did a good job teaching my brother and I life skills and how to live and function independently. So they aren’t cruel monsters for not letting us to continue to live at home as adults .. that being said this family is straight up abusive and most likely would not be this generous or kind to their children and would just cut them off at 18 without any support or ongoing advice which I do NOT support
Hopefully, this will send a message to RUclips to monitor their "children's content" more closely! It should never have gotten this far!
Unless it starts getting mainstream news exposure, they’ll continue to ignore it. It’s sad but widespread outrage is all they will listen to, and Reddit isn’t enough.
They won't. It's a company owned by Google.
I wish this was true, but like others said unless this gets mainstream attention OR they start losing money nothing will change 😞
If we could figure out a way to impact their wallets we would have an effective method…money speaks louder than any backlash or controversy.
If DaddyOFive didn't, I doubt this will
You're expecting a few hundred people to watch thousands and thousans of channels, millions of videos uploaded every day, unless they know specifically of the channel's name, it'll be quit difficult to keep on eye on a channel.. out of millions
Besides, RUclips can't really do anything, the most they can do is ban the channel, but that won't stop the children living in an abusive and controlled home.
This woman is supposed to be a "marriage counselor", yet all of her ex patients claim she literally ruined their lives and marriages. And if you don't believe them.. Ruby and Kevin seemed to be doing just fine, as far as their marriage, until this woman weaseled her way into their house. Now not only is her marriage crumbling, but the only family that still talks to her are the kids who aren't old enough to leave her.
How can this woman still sit there and give advice to others like she's this all-knowing, enlightened person? What's more baffling is that some people actually believe her still.
Yeah….her reviews are horrible. So many People from years ago detailing how she destroyed their marriages & created complete chaos. The woman’s absolutely twisted.
There’s something really sketch about promoting truth and splitting marriages up……… there’s something sus going on in her mind
Is she, Jody, married or have children??? I find it interesting that she is a marriage/family counselor who appears to have neither.
Jody is totally brainwashing Ruby!!
It was so bad the state pulled her medical license because more than one person taped her manipulation. She was only allowed to practice after her suspension by having a third part IN THE ROOM listening to her sessions for six months. That’s a whopper of a strike against her and shows how much trouble she was in. I say she needs to lose her license period.
It seems like Jodi wants to be the new man in Ruby's life. Just me?
Okayy cause it couldnt have been just me thinking this. I even heard she moved into the house
I mean, it's already such a wild story, I wouldn't be surprised? The whole group thing is so cultish tho, I'd assume it's more of a control thing. Who knows tho. The Jodi lady seems to be really controlling to all of her clients. Huge red flags from this lady. Honestly I'm still confused why she was ever given back her license to practice. She's violated so many ethics.
Closet lesbians living in denial 😂
Fr I thought she was a lesbian!
It's worse than that since they're Mormon. It's a lot more Handmaids Tale-esque because they believe in marriage between men & woman, but Jodi seems weirdly invested in Ruby's private life. 😨
my red flags started when they sent Chad to that "survival" type of camp a few years back after finding out some "stuff" he was doing and because they were not happy with the circle of people he surrounded himself with. Hope all these kids have the support system needed to help them navigate this.
That was the first major clue. At least for me. Chad always seemed like a normal teenage boy to me.
@@sherronclavier1705 there’s actually lots of tinier red flags going way back if you do a deep dive.
As a therapist we haven't and still refuse to continue on recognizing her as one of us
How does she even have a license?
@@ellemmenn2930 They'll hand out those licenses to just about anyone as long as you meet their requirements. I've had the wonderful misfortune of some absolutely *DOGSHIT* therapists here in the south.
@@TheAtomicSpoon that's why I went in for my degree. Too many shit ones that's in it for the money
@@ellemmenn2930 atomic hit it on the head. As long as you do their work their way, you can go from there and do whatever. I have met a few that would manipulate their clients.
I've been watching you cover the 8 passengers situation since very near the beginning, and I gotta say...
This is so much more wild than I ever thought it would be
me too. Ruby was not like that at the beginning... I am so sad she is brainwashed by this lady...
That's how I feel too, like holy shit this is going from bad to very very serious. Ruby's basically founded a cult with Jodi, and with apparently pulling her kids out of school and Kevin and other family members not speaking to her ... I feel horrible for those poor children that are still stuck with her, I hope they can get out.
I grew up with this family, I was talking to my mom about and she said she had an off feeling about ruby and I realized now why she did as I’m older
I knew the 8 Passengers were problematic but oh my god this is way worse than what i ever thought it would be. For women who run their mouths about "truth" so much, Jodi and Ruby are pretty damn delusional.
I'm so glad that Shari's aunts and uncles (some of them whom are Ruby's siblings) have their niece's back at this time.
Rubys siblings like Ellie and Bonnie are no better at all!
@@itsdanielleslife Bonnie and Ellie are just as delusional as Ruby. They are the modt materialistic people ever and their kids are only wanted around when Bonnie and Ellie feel like having them around . The kids are afraid of them you can see it in their eyes . Ellie doesn't even want ber kids around after they are no longer a baby and Joel and Jarret do everything for those two . If they are not buying houses or vehicles, getting parcels deliveted or vacationing every 5 minutes then they are in bed with a headache while the kids do all the chores . The entire family is a mess and it is from being raised by Jennifer Griffiths...she was so awful to Ruby growing up that Ruby developed a head twitch and a blinking problem that both disappeared when she left home at 18. Grandma Griffiths was a scary lady and stayed in bed all day with whatever baby while Ruby ran the house . That's where it all started .
Markie I think you handled addressing the things with Shari very empathetically and responsibly, kudos.
its good that chad moved in with kevin and while ruby is a concerning problem right now, kevin isn't that far off from her, but I hope its at least a little better for chad and hopefully the other kids can get out too
He probably has a bed at least!
I think she had alot of influence on Kevin. So hopefully when he's gone he'll start realizing how Effed up she is!!!
I feel Kevin was just doing crap to please ruby. Ruby let it slip her and Kevin argue a lot. She even made a video where she said Russell asked her if they were divorcing due to arguing like his friends parents did
true but shes also like a narcissist. people like her that are controlling and manipulative know how to get what they want and how to convince others to do what they want them to do. my dad was the same way and once he left my mom became a better mom x1000 🤷♀️
I feel like kevin had very little say in the household
What you mentioned about Shari finding comfort and Mormonism, basically from 3:04-3:54 - I respect you so much for saying that. That was really kind of you, a very good thing to say. Thanks for that! (Edit - I'm not Mormon, I'm Christian, and I know only a little about the religion, but no faith deserves to be judged based on fellow followers who may not be portraying it correctly)
SAME! I am not Mormon or even particularly religious at all but I felt the same way.
There is no need to be nasty to talk a out his situation.
Yes! There are other channels talking about the Ruby situation and bashing Mormons at the same time, and it’s not fair to all the normal ones.
@@Bluebke19 I'm sorry but the "normal ones" are progressive mormons. That is not the standard and not what the church teaches, its an extremely toxic cult that if Shari can find comfort in, cool, but that doesn't mean that she's the "normal". Ruby is far more of what the churches average mormon looks like
@@GothAProblem Then I guess the progressive ones are becoming more and more common because I’m Mormon, and I’ve been a Mormon in 6 different states, and I can assure you that Ruby is far far far from the typical Mormon anywhere I’ve been and certainly not what the church advocates.
@@Bluebke19 You are an extreme outlier. Any and all Mormons I know personally and that are in my family are straight up vile evil people. Mormonism is a cult by all philosophical standards and has incredibly racist origins.
Thank you Markie!!! You are the most amazing and mature person to go over the whole Mormon religion situation. Right now this is about the kids. I grew up totally normal in a Mormon household…. Not like this crazy lady. She’s off her rocker! Poor kids.
Shari is so much stronger than I was. It took me until the age of 30 to cut off communication with my dad. I 100% commend her for the strength it took, especially with the younger kids still being at home. It's hard to disconnect when you feel like you have to stick around for the siblings you want to protect so badly
There's a whole thing going on in the Evangelical community where people basically are trying to bring about the handmaid's tale as a reality. These people are part of that effort.
Yes. This is true. I know because I grew up in it. It is the goal and has been since the party flip /southern strategy with Nixon.
@@louhortonsculpture yup, confirm this has been going on for DECADES they are just now getting mainstream attention. Whenever I hear someone talking about “living in principals/the truth”, it’s an instant red flag.
@@Jordan-nw4sj what is the handmaids tail? Im sorry im not very familiar with this stuff, what are they trying to do?
@@rheakg Based on the best-selling novel by Margaret Atwood, this series is set in Gilead, a totalitarian society in what used to be part of the United States. Gilead is ruled by a fundamentalist regime that treats women as property of the state, and is faced with environmental disasters and a plummeting birth rate. In a desperate attempt to repopulate a devastated world, the few remaining fertile women are forced into sexual servitude. One of these women, Offred, is determined to survive the terrifying world she lives in, and find the daughter that was taken from her.
@@rheakg it's a dystopian novel by Margaret Atwood. It's basically set in the former USA now The Republic of Gilead. Birth rates had declined so severely and Christian evangelicals take over to round up women who have a history of fertility to make them "Handmaids" who are given to married men of power to be used as vessels to breed. Women are no longer allowed to read, go to school, etc. There's also a Hulu series based on it that's very well done and greatly expands on the novel. Definitely recommend both the book and the show, if it's something you can handle. Definitely not for everyone tho. A lot of aspects and events reflect historical events such as Iran during the Islamic Revolution, etc.
The book and the show are brought up a lot when it comes to evangelical Christians and similar extremists because they've gained a lot of influence and power in American politics over the last 50 or so years. They generally have the goal of chipping away at certain rights and regulations such dismantling separation of church and state, abolishing marriage equality, etc. If you want to learn more about it and just about these groups in general Fundie Fridays is a good channel to check out.
I wish the youngest kids will be saved and someone needs to separate Ruby and Jodi cause wtf
Since Chad and Sharri are quite a bit older than the rest of their siblings, I'm hopeful that they will help remove them from that environment.
@@kierstenbrowne I'm hoping for this too!!
I wonder if Ruby and Jodi are in a relationship? (And I am not talking about the working relationship!)
Why would your business partner move into your private home? 🤔🙄
I've also been wondering this for a hot min. If they aren't,I'd say it's because of their religious beliefs about same sex relationships, but I feel that Jodi at least is romantically obsessed with Ruby and is cultivating a relationship that is as close to romantic as she can get without the backlash of their cult. Whatever they actually think their relationship is, from outsiders looking in, it definitely seems like they are in an abusive, romantic relationship that jodi is controlling
Well that's assuming she moved in. No one really knows if that's true, it's an assumption at this point.
@@nikkyro03 Yes, I agree. I've been thinking the same thing for a while. They are like sick/evil soul mates in a way because they both have horrifying god complexes and a gross pleasure with manipulating and abusing people. The righteousness is just their cloak. I think it's only a matter of time that it becomes at LEAST like a relationship if it hasn't already.
@@nikkyro03 I always heard if people hate gays etc that more often than not is cause they are secretly gay
I feel absolutely awful for all the kids, but especially the younger 4. It sickens me to think that they are trapped in a house with this narcissistic monster. I used to watch 8 passengers (when I was much younger and clueless to the many things wrong with it) and those kids are beautiful people who do not deserve to be confined and manipulated like this. I hope that the situation changes for the better very very quickly.
if abuse is going on, the kids being taken out of school is a huge red flag. that is so worrying, without the safety net that school provides a lot of abused kids fall through the cracks
@CaveraDeMonte I'm so sorry that happened 😢 abusers really can be diabolical in the lengths they go to hide what they are doing
honestly Markie I can't believe you got rid of the old outro music that shit banged so damn hard
I really like how you report on this topic but are also so respectful of the family (excluding ruby of course)
as an ex-mormon who lives in Utah and had a really rough time in the religion I dont see anything wrong with Shari finding comfort in the religion. Honestly I love that she has something to help her and hope for the best with her and her siblings, they dont deserve any of this.
same here
(Edited to add that I am referring to Ruby. Sorry. My brain is a bit off tonight.) She is not finding “comfort” in the “religion”. She is radicalizing her interpretation, and wielding as a weapon to avoid accountability for her actions. She regularly shames and attacks any individual who is not living their life as she demands. She cannot hide behind that veil of “it’s just my religion”.
@@DreamingByDay you know what, I agree with you. But if any part of Mormonism makes her feel better at this time then I don’t see any problem, she is going through an incredibly hard thing and even the littlest things matter.
@@DreamingByDay are you talking about Shari, the 19 year old daughter, or Ruby?
@@kelseyroy8280 Shari
This reminds me of a docuseries I watched called Sins of Our Mother or something like that. The mother was in some crazy cult too and she killed her family 😢
Lori Vallow was a Mormon too, but then engaged with Chad Daybell (also Mormon) who had started a sub cult of his own.
I feel bad for the kids. I imagine the older ones just want to make their opinions known without it becoming a big thing lol like I'm sure they want the world to know they don't agree with everything ruby had been saying and doing, but at the same time I doubt they're all itching to do interviews and sht. I don't even know how I would handle something like that at 30, let alone as a teen.
Edit: ooooooh wow its even worse, and scarier, than I thought.
I was on a plane about to take off, and I heard a woman in the row in front of me say to her daughter, " 'Nervous' is just 'excited' with a bad attitude." MAJOR Ruby vibes
I feel bad for the kids, I cant imagine how awful it must be to live in that house. Isolated from family and friends and raised on this cult beliefes. We all know how crazy strict and controlling she is and I feel like we all just see a small portion of it, who knows what happens behind closed doors . This is all happening under our eyes and I wish there was something we could do. There are still 4 young children living in that house, hope Rubys sibilings would jump in and get them out asap.
i swear it’s like every day there’s a new 8 passengers vid from markie and i’m not even mad
cause everyday it's getting worse and worse with them. this family is literally crumbling in front of millions of viewers on youtube.
they tick all the boxes for cult. I'm most concerned for the children. Pulling them from outside interventions via homeschool allows abuse, grooming and indoctrination to rage unchecked and unabated. There is no longer a safe space for these kids. And the rhetoric that jody and ruby spew is promoting emotional and physical abuse of children. It's distressing and I hope that CPS will be able to save the children.
A lot of abused children are homeschooled because teachers are mandated reporters and “parents” don’t want them to call CPS.
LDS isn’t far off from a cult. Have you ever read or heard what’s in the Book of Mormon?! They literally believe they’ll become gods.
@@Garbeaux. as a Mormon I'm telling you that's not true...
We believe that we can eternally progress and grow just like we can during our life on earth (like getting older), and that progression has no limit (due to eternity being forever). We don't think we'll become Egyptian style gods or anything 😂 that is just a simplification of a simple principle
Yes but I’m also concerned the kids will go into foster care. If there’s a way for them to go to their dad or aunts & uncles that would be a better situation.
@@Garbeaux. the folks I know that are LDS are not like. I have not read the Book of Mormon but they never spoke of stuff like that. They were very family oriented and it was a supportive community. Frankly I think religion in general is a freaking cult though!
Putting connexions behind a paywall seems like its just a way to manage what information gets out/ mitigate fallout. Sad thing about this whole thing is that stuff like this isnt uncommon anymore. So many get sucked into cult like ideologies and its tearing so many families apart.
That's exactly what I was thinking... Less public access = less public scrutiny and accountability
Sounded to me like they're trying to form a close, dedicated group of vulnerable people (read: cult) who they can make money off
Why on earth would people think it’s ok to reach out to this young woman, Shari? She’s a stranger to them. It’s not their place to contact her. I’m stunned that people believe it is ok to do this. I’m glad she asked for privacy.
I can’t stand family channels for reasons such as this. These kids have no privacy. She never chose to be online. Her parents made that decision for her and now strangers are messaging obviously her while she’s trying to focus on her studies, adjusting to being away at the university and finally she has to deal with a VERY public rift in her family. I have a lot empathy for her situation. Our daughter is the same age.
Who the hell would pay for someone to just tell you to either disown,abandon and a bunch of other extremely bad things.
also I am aware that of the things I mentioned do mean the same thing just done differently
tbh if I want people to tell me to drop a relationship, I would go to Reddit instead lmao
This is literally so crazy. I get home from school and find out Ned from the try guys was fired for CHEATING, Ruby and Kevin split apparently and is apart of a cult, and I failed my AP class test. Mind blowing
kevin needs to go to court and file for full custody
fathers hardly win but he can try
He’s not all that great either
They're just talking in circles. Nothing is ever explained. They never define truth outside of what they believe it to be even when it contradicts a previous statement. If you happen to call out said contradiction you get told you are being aggressive, deceptive, and allowing your emotions to get the better of you.
I.e. Momma knows best. Super culty. God I pray everyday for these kids to get out.
Who the fuck thinks it's okay to privately message a complete stranger for more information about their private life?
She’s like deadass spell casing. I watched the other 8 passengers video and now I have a hurricane hurdling towards my house lmao
😱 Yo, you okay ???
In Florida?
@@Jyster370 I think I’ll be all good hopefully :) Ty for asking tho!
@@rubypetralli Yup, unfortunately lol.
@@mushishroom3563 i’m in orlando until saturday😬
Ruby genuinely couldn't get it right. On one hand she made her kindergartener go to school with no lunch, because packing lunch was the five-year-olds responsibility; on the other hand, the kids suddenly wanting nothing to do with her is a SIN and her reaction is to want more control over their lives. Some people just can't be told how to act right and Ruby's one of them. She is too unwell to respond rationally to the well-founded criticisms being made of her. Baiting her or arguing with her just fuels her ego and revitalises her victim complex. This woman needs absolutely TOTAL silence and disengagement from her audience, so that the only person left to listen to is herself.
The way you said ' noooo let's skip that word ' cracked me up!! I had to rewatch it a few times! Too funny!!
My heart goes out to Shari. She's a lovely young woman and I'm delighted her faith is bringing her comfort ❤️ I hope she is in close touch with her father and brother (I'm pretty sure she is) and that they take comfort from Ruby's brother and sister's support. Ruby has blindly followed Jodi down a dangerous path. They are a dangerous couple, caught up in Jodi's cult. I just hope that the 4 children, still under Ruby's control, are saved and reunited with their siblings, father and extended Griffiths family. Cults are highly dangerous and Jodi's/Ruby's one can only end in pain, if they are not stopped. Thankyou for taking a sympathetic approach to this awful dilemma. We need to show some love to the children caught up in this.
We need to crack down on cults again. Bet Jodi and Ruby move to Hawaii. It’s cult central. Kids being taken out of school is step 1. Vallow/Daybell vibes.
I was thinking the same thing. She’s going to turn into the next vallow if someone doesn’t give her a reality check.
exactly what i was thinking
This is why I’m grateful that homeschooling is illegal in my country
the whole family is in a cult already. mormonism. as an ex-mormon i confidently say this as a fact.
that being said, it sadly makes it a lot easier for people who are already in one cult to join more. that's why it was so easy for ruby to join this one. hopefully her family seeing the similarities between connexions and mormonism will help them break out of it
edit accidentally spelled 'ruby' as 'rub'
Literally was just looking at your videos for a new one to watch! Subscribed!
Love you callum! Thanks for continuing to cover this stuff, I know it must be stressful! Great video, as always! 🦊🐍❤
Thank you for your comment about Shari leaning on her faith during this difficult time. As an active member of that church, it was so nice to hear someone remind everyone else that it's okay that she's practicing her faith and leaning on her beliefs and that doesn't mean she's supportive of her mothers' action. I appreciate it.
From a marketing standpoint, those outlandish promises their giving are so nuanced that the only people that will fall for that are people who are extremely valuable. This feels a bit snake oil/MLM scammy. Like they’ll be able to fix your life and you’ll have no problems. I hope this doesn’t last long.
Markie- you do such a good job at being respectful with the “gossip”. Very refreshing! (New subscriber)
The whole Ruby and cult thing gives me major Lori Vallow vibes. I truly hope those kids are safe 😢
That’s what I was thinking as well. 😢
Oh sh*t you’re totally right
Wild that we are watching a cult form in real time
transform your pain into joy ...50 shades of truth
a genuinely mature and insightful person? subscribinggggg
Shari is so brave speaking up about this issues. I really hope she gets support from the extended Griffiths family, her dad and siblings. 💜
I can't stop thinking about the 4 little brothers and sister's left in Ruby's care 😞
I know this is off topic but man, do I love markie’s voice and accent! I could listen to him read me the words off the back of a pack of toilet paper and I would still feel like he was intelligent and well versed ❤😂
New sub, your channel just popped up on my feed. I am clearly out of the loop as I have never heard of 8 passengers before, but of course down the rabbit hole I go. Your channel has been very helpful on my 8 passenger rabbit hole journey.
I don’t have a lot of sympathy for these adults. I am a retired nurse of 38 years….Jody is a medical professional! Ever heard the phrase “ first do no harm” if Jody lied about her clients, was manipulative, and broke oaths of confidence once..she can do it again. I am disgusted.
That said, My heart just breaks for these kids. Who like most children just want to know and feel their parents love, and feel safe and secure in their care. Cults are insidious and destroy families.
I’m so worried for those children. This is the saddest and scariest thing to hear about them so far. Have you seen Sins of our Mother on Netflix? This is giving me vibes of that. 😢😢
Jodi & Ruby are definitely giving Lori Vallow/Chad daybell vibes
I’m so scared for her kids
EXACTLY what I was thinking!
Oh my gosh I said the same thing!!! So scaryyyy! Save the children
As a Mormon, I want to say THANK YOU MARKIE !!! My religion definitely has some extremists as well as extremist sects, but there are millions of normal people who are regular Christians within the Mormon church.
Thank you so much for not just assuming that we are all horrible people because of the crazy Mormons that do exist. We definitely appreciate it
This extremism happens everywhere in our society. It’s very tough to be on the “judged based on the actions of others” side of things! ❤
Theres children battling cancer in the hospitals who could really use that $21. And they'll actually be grateful and talk to you and won't limit the amount of words you can say to them.
I agree, don't contact any of these people. If I were raised in an emotionally abusive household, the last thing I would want is for a bunch of strangers from the internet to contact me. Especially if I was trying to move on from the situation.
From a video ruby put out about the “village” I think neighbors called CPS. my guess and opinion
This is a horrifying story.. If anything physical is going on and that woman is living in the home, those kids need to be removed IMMEDIATELY.
This is crazy and low key getting scary. Hope those kids are safe.😬
What scares me is the fact that this is slowly becoming similar to the tylee and JJ vallow murders. I seriously fear for their safety.
I love your video’s especially these ones. Thank you for the update. Keep up the great work 😊
There was also a video a few years ago where they told everyone it was fake and their youngest was told I'm not your mum at such a young age too I feel so bad for them all
Except for their kids all look like either Ruby or Kevin.
@@MrCullensGirl17 yep
First this now Ned cheating? What is happening in the House of Commons
Great video man. This story is crazy. I hope there’s a happy ending at the end of this for the sake of the kids. I have a feeling this is just the beginning of this saga.
I’m happy to hear this! Now that Jody is staying there too I bet the kids are really miserable.
As someone who grew up with a very toxic mother and having to navigate those feelings and dealing with that trauma is very hard. I can’t imagine having people knowing about the the abuse/trauma and talk about it on the internet ❤ thinking about Shari and hope she can find peace
3:29 Yes! Thank you. I get tired of having to explain that we aren’t like this we just have some bad apples in the bunch. Ruby’s extreme views from some of the things I’ve seen her say aren’t even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ‘s beliefs and opinions. She’s seems to be preaching without research and it feels very cult like and makes me upset.
Lmao...dude, I feel u on that spell stuff because I swear every time I talk about an ex friend of mine...I'm under the weather...lmao
Thank you SO much for commenting that this isn't what Mormons are really like! I am a mormon and I have been embarrassed from the start that Ruby has been 'representing' us - her beliefs are not in line with our religious beliefs, she is an extremist and I hope people know that mainstream Mormons are nothing like her and her craziness.
Same ! I have been so embarrassed about how she's acting because she's one of the biggest non-religious centered LDS public figures at the time.
I'm just glad Markie isn't bashing us 😁
Same! And yes, he is one of the few people on the internet who has the decency to not bash an entire religious group based on the actions of a few outliers.
I’ve been watching for awhile and didn’t realize I’ve never subscribed cause your videos are recommended all the time. Went ahead and subscribed! 🥰
I've watched every episode you've made from 8 passengers since like 2/3 years ago its shocking what them parents have done to the kids :(
Where do these certifications come from? I could certify you today as the RUclips Master and it wouldn't mean sh*t. Her "mental fitness certification" lacks any kind of credible authority.
I get the strong feeling that Jodi and Ruby are the kind of people that hang around the same people as Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell… 😟
Years ago I spent way too much time on a RUclips mom gossip site (embarrassing, I know😂) and there were so many other things discussed about Ruby on there that were clear red flags very early on. Now all the evidence of some of this is scrubbed from the Internet at this point, but we were a very sluethy gossip forum and while there was always lots of speculation, this stuff was confirmed all with evidence from the vlogs and their old blog entries.
Here’s some tidbits I can’t remember.
1. Russel broke his FEMUR when he was a baby. Ruby waited ONE WEEK before taking him in to the ER to get checked out. She claims he “rolled off the couch”. The femur is the strongest bone in the body (the hardest to break) AND this occurred at an age when Russell’s bones would still be soft and slightly flexible (harder to break). It would take a tremendous amount of force from rolling off the couch to break an infant’s femur. Major red flag.
-does this remind anyone of a story with Shari’s stomach as a baby??
-Russell didn’t walk until he was over two and had some “other delays”. Little sketchy if you ask me.
2. Ruby once referenced a difficult time in her life around after the 4 baby (and a number of miscarriages). During this time, she didnt change Julie’s clothes for days at a time and left her “filthy”. She referenced a lot of neglect that she seemed to regret. Her mental health sounded very poor at the time. She didn’t outright say it, but it was highly speculated (based on some references and avoidance certain topics when she was describing this time) that she was giving hints to having dealt with a pill addiction during this time.
-she once gave Julie a “karen cut” To add some volume to the back of her head because (as she explained) it was flat from when she was a baby. I can’t remember exactly why now, but she referenced something that made us believe she knew about the flat head issue when she was a baby and felt she was the cause of it and regretted not doing the helmeting to fix it.
Anyways, this are just a few of the CRAZY things from there. The site crashed but I’m sure it’s archived somewhere. I’d love to see someone do a deep dive into this. This family had red flags from the beginning. I didn’t have Ruby joining a cult on my future predictions bingo card, but I’m not surprised at all by these turn of events.
Thank you for saying that what ruby and Jodi are preaching isn’t what Mormons believe. It’s hard for my religion to be bashed on something that isn’t even taught in our church but I appreciate it🤍
As someone who was Mormon it’s very strict you cannot do many things as kid! But never in religion say cannot play video games.
Ruby is just honestly really bad at everything. Like bad at being a mom, bad at being a wife, not that great at being a human in general. It must suck to be her. I think I understand why she's clinging so hard to the whole Truth thing
Idk whats going on but the comments have me intrigued already lmao
Thank you SO much for not bashing the Mormon religion. Some of the nicest people I’ve met. I appreciate your understanding so much
I hope ALL of Ruby's children can be safe and learn better and the differences between how they parents should have acted and how they want to live their lives now
Pausing just to say "thank you" about the church separation point. I'm a former member and it kinda bugs that (love him but it bugs..) DCP lumps them all in as what the church says..... It says to do the exact opposite of all this(that connections say) so please don't mesh them all. There's for sure problems and weirdos that flds it but, it's not what you are suggested to do by it
Yeah it really bothers me how much DCP bashes Mormons. It makes his content feel unsafe for those of us who are religious but not crazy.
This whole situation is just sad!! 😢
I’m LDS (Mormon). Thank you so much for speaking respectfully about my religion.
I thought the cover photo was Lori Vallow for a sec😅
The opening page to the website gives me immense confusion I can’t imagine the entire program would give me clarity.
if anyone has seen “sins of my mother” on netflix, this is what this situation is starting to turn into, very sad, i hope it gets stopped before someone could end up dead
this is shockingly similar to the lori vallow case and i sincerely hope it doesn’t escalate to that degree. if you haven’t you NEED to watch the sins of our mother doc on netflix- this seems so scarily close.
jodi and ruby are going to be the next netflix documentary
Thanks for posting this, people need to stop hiding behind religion be it Mormonism Southern Baptist, Catholic, to justify abusing children
Anyone who hurts a kid no matter the age of the kid and regardless of the relationship pushing a child out doesn't give anyone the right to be maliciously cruel and abusive to a kid
How are these people even allowed to charge $21 for advice when they give horrible advice? Is their “freedom” the 5 extra minutes she has a day from not packing her child lunch? Ugh this is just frustrating.
I am hoping some of the many people helping are divorce attorneys for the dad who are also going to help with a custody case against Ruby.
More than happy to subscribe. Thank you for always having such great content, I really enjoy your videos.
this is insane, I feel so bad for the family
Surprisingly, when I used to live in nauvoo, which is where the Mormon temple is located. A lot of the Mormon population and families who were more in tune with the Mormon faith were actually really nice and welcoming even with my autism. The more lax community would think I'm weird and their kids would make fun of me.
It hurts my heart for these children, and it angers me so much that such a flat out evil person gets to have children in this life when I can't. I just want to love on those babies.
I feel like something has to be done about this dangerous cult.