Thanks for another great review! Always loved the look of this vehicle on the road over here in the states but never bought it due to lack of AWD (now have a Hyundai Santa Cruz 😍). This however seems like they threw a bunch of random stuff together without much thought or much improvements over the original. Toyotas more (rightly) focused on their new electric lineup, but if they’re gonna do the CHR this bad and then try and GR it they should do it right. This is just a slightly higher trim level.
Great review Mark. Agree on space etc and cost. Changed wife's car recently and tried chr but there was more room in back in my Golf mk7 than it. It was priced close to Rav4 . We went for Rav4 in the end. Acres of space and in hotter weather we get 5.6ltr average from it. Wife went from lexus ct200h to Rav4 and hasn't looked back since. Chr lacked space for us and cost was very close to Rav4.
The word "sport or sportiness" has nothing to do with CHR to be honest. I've 2.0L Orange Edition as daily and 3.4L 987.2 Boxster S as weekend car. Please do a review on older sports cars as well if you can it would be really interesting to hear your opinions.
Great review as ever Nobby I do like them in terms of the design but the space in the boot isn't great, for the extra trim level money it's not special enough and it's ruined by a CVT gearbox and I don't care how much they've changed a CVT is still a CVT.
@@NobbyOnCars Having done my research the CHR was the perfect fit for me. I've never sat in the back, don't have kids and 90% of the time, it's just me. I have only had a couple of times where people have sat in the back. If I wanted space I wouldn't have shortlisted, or bought this car.
So it's a GR line car, but poorly spec'd from a GR stand point. Alloys, paint and red stitching. Nice looking but for 40k, there's a lot better out there. Interesting you were EV 77% of the time. That's good
€40k for something sporty gets the 204hp Cupra Born and they have good spec as standard or save a few quid with a lower trim ID.3. Hard to see the appeal of hybrid around €40k especially when you can get a full fat EV. Very little room in the rear of the C-HR and the dark interior and small windows make it a tight, dark space. Not very practical.
Had a loan of one of these for the last few days, 2019 model. Really like it, but that engine (1.8 hybrid) is awful to listen to when accelerating. Handles lovely tho, so easy to drive. Anyone know if the rav4 hybrid engine is the same when putting power down? Considering trading my volvo v90 cross country in for a rav4. More reliable and taller boot.
Prob gonna sound controversial but don’t think this deserves the gr badge it’s a bit too subdued for me. The Yaris gr sport looks incredible in its styling compared to this.
I have a chr sport 2020 and the ev mode and % is BS. In ev mode and at traffic lights the engine will run to charge battery even if the battery is 1 bar off full. The engine will run parked and not register on the dashboard as being on .....so don't believe the ev% The space at the back is too cramped for an adult and hasn't got grab rail on the roof in the back for those less mobile to get in. I had to call breakdown support to charge the tiny battery as it ran flat last year .... my crime was to have the car off radio on and charging my phone for about 30 mins. This is fairly common with these cars. The radio powers off after a few mins which is annoying and the front window needs the window heater on pretty much constantly in cold weather as the air heater is useless
@@NobbyOnCars about 17 to 19km per liter. Last week for the second time the battery went flat. Someone i know sold their hybrid back to the toyota garage for similar reasons, if you do short journeys, toyota hybrids are not for you
I really dont get why would you need to over emphasise that this is not a gr, like there is anyone who thinks this a proper gr product like the yaris and the supra and the 86. Specially when you judged the car based on what its not and not what it is. What this is, is like what everyother manufactures does and thas a sporty option packadge. It like an amg line, s line, m sport, r line. An in my opinion, toyota did it better. Better dumpers, lower springs, stiffer anti roll bars, along with some bodykit and better looking wheels. At least you get everything included unlike other premium manufacturers. Plus you get fully indipendent all around suspension with double wishbone rear and discbrakes alround as well and not many manufactures do that an this price and this type of vehicle. And you get one of the best if not the best hybrid technology on the market. And yea thats not car you take for a large family, is a city car and for small trips around. Its a small car. Of course if you want practicality for long journeys and some offroad capabilitties, you get a bigger suv. but for a stylish, quite fun to drive and very cheap to run and maintain daily commute, this chr and the mazda cx30 are some very good options. I just wish it didnt had the stubid cvt.
@@NobbyOnCars its like putting an m sport badge on a non m car. What you say, doesnt make sence. The car is not named gr chr, but chr gr sport. Similar to a 330i being an msport model versus a full m3. All manufactures do that, so i dont see why would you expect the chr gr sport to be a full on gr model. It has some mechanical upgrades like an m sport model(or s line or amg line or whatever) but not the full treatment. They dont fake anything or pretend anything.
Pretty much every manufacturer offers their performance badge as a trim level, Ford with ST line, BMW with M Sport, Audi with S line, Mercedes with AMG Line, VW with R Line, etc etc. If people want to pay a lot more to have a few sporty badges then why shouldn't Toyota try to cash in on that?
1 usb point in a new car is rubbish. 1 usb point in a new hybrid is daft 1 usb in a new hybrid North of €40'000 sums up Toyota idea of what families actually need from a family car👎👎
I think that’s a bit of a stretch Stuart. They seem more interested in hydrogen but I think they’re too big a producer of vehicles around the world to just turn in Saab or something.
Having done a deep dive on Toyota R&D, tracked everything Toyoda has said, I stand by my statements. Even take a look at their GUI in the cars, it’s from 2005. They are the Japanese VW, at least VW have a CEO literally risking his job every month to convince the Luddite’s to come into the 21st century. The fundamentals of what a car should be and needs to be has totally changed. It’s all about manufacturing efficiency and profit margin unseen in automakers to date, more like software makers. How will Royota sell their 40k CHR when the Chinese are gunning for 20k BEVs within 3 years with similar size etc. Toyota with the hybrid system are like Sony with Minidisc. They tried to optimise a technology that was obsolete when the world was moving digital. I just hope Subaru and Mazda don’t get brought down with the Titanic!
Thanks for another great review! Always loved the look of this vehicle on the road over here in the states but never bought it due to lack of AWD (now have a Hyundai Santa Cruz 😍). This however seems like they threw a bunch of random stuff together without much thought or much improvements over the original. Toyotas more (rightly) focused on their new electric lineup, but if they’re gonna do the CHR this bad and then try and GR it they should do it right. This is just a slightly higher trim level.
I have the CHR Orange edtion, hard to spot anything different other than the seat trims ! Love my CHR though, 2.0 makes it much fun to drive.
Great review Mark. Agree on space etc and cost. Changed wife's car recently and tried chr but there was more room in back in my Golf mk7 than it. It was priced close to Rav4 . We went for Rav4 in the end. Acres of space and in hotter weather we get 5.6ltr average from it. Wife went from lexus ct200h to Rav4 and hasn't looked back since. Chr lacked space for us and cost was very close to Rav4.
The Rav is really good and not cheap. Like it though!
Another great review, time to think closely on the next car
So excited for 2022 chr coming later in the year. Finally smart connect cloud connected.
Are they doing the same thing BMW and Mercedes did withe their M badge and AMG badge.
The word "sport or sportiness" has nothing to do with CHR to be honest. I've 2.0L Orange Edition as daily and 3.4L 987.2 Boxster S as weekend car. Please do a review on older sports cars as well if you can it would be really interesting to hear your opinions.
Great review as ever Nobby I do like them in terms of the design but the space in the boot isn't great, for the extra trim level money it's not special enough and it's ruined by a CVT gearbox and I don't care how much they've changed a CVT is still a CVT.
I love this car
Love the exterior of this car but sat in the backseat and was shocked at how clausterphobic it was...
Back seat is the main problem alright depending on needs.
@@NobbyOnCars Having done my research the CHR was the perfect fit for me. I've never sat in the back, don't have kids and 90% of the time, it's just me. I have only had a couple of times where people have sat in the back. If I wanted space I wouldn't have shortlisted, or bought this car.
Failed to mention it has stiffer suspension which sort of makes it GRish? Stiffer is sportier surely !
Toyota has always made nice seats what does he want to be different in the car engine power or wat
What kind of litres/100km is this returning?
6L per Litre ❓🤔 We are not all in Europe ❗️ Great review 😊
So it's a GR line car, but poorly spec'd from a GR stand point. Alloys, paint and red stitching. Nice looking but for 40k, there's a lot better out there.
Interesting you were EV 77% of the time. That's good
what color is that one reviewed?
€40k for something sporty gets the 204hp Cupra Born and they have good spec as standard or save a few quid with a lower trim ID.3. Hard to see the appeal of hybrid around €40k especially when you can get a full fat EV. Very little room in the rear of the C-HR and the dark interior and small windows make it a tight, dark space. Not very practical.
I think we will see a good few Cupra Borns in 2022.
What is a Luna Sport?
Had a loan of one of these for the last few days, 2019 model. Really like it, but that engine (1.8 hybrid) is awful to listen to when accelerating. Handles lovely tho, so easy to drive.
Anyone know if the rav4 hybrid engine is the same when putting power down? Considering trading my volvo v90 cross country in for a rav4. More reliable and taller boot.
It is the same although there’s a PHEV RAV4 coming. They’re all generally 5-6L/100kms although some have reported 3.5L
Prob gonna sound controversial but don’t think this deserves the gr badge it’s a bit too subdued for me. The Yaris gr sport looks incredible in its styling compared to this.
I tend to agree. Loved the Yaris!
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I have a chr sport 2020 and the ev mode and % is BS. In ev mode and at traffic lights the engine will run to charge battery even if the battery is 1 bar off full. The engine will run parked and not register on the dashboard as being on .....so don't believe the ev% The space at the back is too cramped for an adult and hasn't got grab rail on the roof in the back for those less mobile to get in. I had to call breakdown support to charge the tiny battery as it ran flat last year .... my crime was to have the car off radio on and charging my phone for about 30 mins. This is fairly common with these cars. The radio powers off after a few mins which is annoying and the front window needs the window heater on pretty much constantly in cold weather as the air heater is useless
How many miles/kms do you get out of a tank?
@@NobbyOnCars about 17 to 19km per liter. Last week for the second time the battery went flat. Someone i know sold their hybrid back to the toyota garage for similar reasons, if you do short journeys, toyota hybrids are not for you
I really dont get why would you need to over emphasise that this is not a gr, like there is anyone who thinks this a proper gr product like the yaris and the supra and the 86. Specially when you judged the car based on what its not and not what it is. What this is, is like what everyother manufactures does and thas a sporty option packadge. It like an amg line, s line, m sport, r line. An in my opinion, toyota did it better. Better dumpers, lower springs, stiffer anti roll bars, along with some bodykit and better looking wheels. At least you get everything included unlike other premium manufacturers. Plus you get fully indipendent all around suspension with double wishbone rear and discbrakes alround as well and not many manufactures do that an this price and this type of vehicle. And you get one of the best if not the best hybrid technology on the market. And yea thats not car you take for a large family, is a city car and for small trips around. Its a small car. Of course if you want practicality for long journeys and some offroad capabilitties, you get a bigger suv. but for a stylish, quite fun to drive and very cheap to run and maintain daily commute, this chr and the mazda cx30 are some very good options. I just wish it didnt had the stubid cvt.
It’s like putting a GTI badge on a car that isn’t a GTI.
@@NobbyOnCars its like putting an m sport badge on a non m car. What you say, doesnt make sence. The car is not named gr chr, but chr gr sport. Similar to a 330i being an msport model versus a full m3. All manufactures do that, so i dont see why would you expect the chr gr sport to be a full on gr model. It has some mechanical upgrades like an m sport model(or s line or amg line or whatever) but not the full treatment. They dont fake anything or pretend anything.
Preco😊
Toyota has year on year kept upping the price of the CHR and now is way overpriced
To use "GR" is cringing and disappointing for Toyota.
Pretty much every manufacturer offers their performance badge as a trim level, Ford with ST line, BMW with M Sport, Audi with S line, Mercedes with AMG Line, VW with R Line, etc etc. If people want to pay a lot more to have a few sporty badges then why shouldn't Toyota try to cash in on that?
1 usb point in a new car is rubbish.
1 usb point in a new hybrid is daft
1 usb in a new hybrid North of €40'000 sums up Toyota idea of what families actually need from a family car👎👎
I regret buying this car, it does not have parking sensors and even seats are not wide enough. What a waste😢😢
Laughable to call this a GR. Its just a super mini on stilts to pottle about town. Toyota are just so random.
What a mess of a car. The dying embers of a company that will do well to exist in 10 years.
Like their cars, they'll outlast all the rest, because nobody else makes cars that are as well built, and that will always matter.
@@terrydelahunt842 I don’t agree. The past is not the future. They literally came on board with EVs in the last month. See you in 2030 🙂
They have an immense track record as the world's most successful car manufacturer. You'll be wrong, don't wait til 2030 to come to terms with that
I think that’s a bit of a stretch Stuart. They seem more interested in hydrogen but I think they’re too big a producer of vehicles around the world to just turn in Saab or something.
Having done a deep dive on Toyota R&D, tracked everything Toyoda has said, I stand by my statements. Even take a look at their GUI in the cars, it’s from 2005. They are the Japanese VW, at least VW have a CEO literally risking his job every month to convince the Luddite’s to come into the 21st century. The fundamentals of what a car should be and needs to be has totally changed. It’s all about manufacturing efficiency and profit margin unseen in automakers to date, more like software makers. How will Royota sell their 40k CHR when the Chinese are gunning for 20k BEVs within 3 years with similar size etc.
Toyota with the hybrid system are like Sony with Minidisc. They tried to optimise a technology that was obsolete when the world was moving digital.
I just hope Subaru and Mazda don’t get brought down with the Titanic!