The fact alone that no Robo-Voice is used in Mark‘s videos deserves a subscription. And then there is the high quality content... I‘m glad I found this channel. Keep up the good work.
He is actually on the history or military channel as a commentator on some of the shows. Just saw him last night on the military channel and thought that guy sounds familiar. Good stuff.
The key factor in the F-86 ability to operate in transonic flight was the all moving horizontal stabiliser(HS). The Mig had a fixed HS and would go out of control in a supersonic dive speed. This is all covered in Chuck Yeager's book, and was the key to supersonic flight. The F-86 also had an engine with axial compressors, while the Mig had the old style centrifugal compressors. The axial compressor jet engines were first used on the ME-262 WW2 German fighter and are now used on all large jet engines.The axial compressor engine for the ME-262 was designed by the forgotten great man Anselm Franz.
MiG-15s SUCCESS WAS BASED ON BRITISH ENGINE TECHNOLOGY A big part of the MiG-15's success was its engine, the Klimov VK-1, which was a reverse-engineered and modified design of the Rolls-Royce Nene engine, in 1946, the British Labor government allowed the sale of the Nene to the Soviets. This made the MiG-15 deadly fighter that was flown against the Allies durring the Korean War. With all due respect to the UK and US governments, often times our worst enemy is our own leadership, Joesph Stalin commented on the sale saying, “What fool will sell us his secrets?”
I believe operation moolah was an accidental success, the pilot of the mig was merely tired of North Korea and decided to fly too the South. I'm sure the money was welcome as well however.
I wouldn't call it a success at all. The pilot didn't even know about it, so that means the operation wasn't the reason for obtaining the Mig-15. In fact don't think any pilots defected due to moolah at all. So it's a failure.
This rang strangely with me too, but then I thought about it: Manoeuvrability isn't about roll and turn rate. It's about *changing* roll and turn, ie acceleration. Imagine a car that does 100Km/h with 0-100 in 8 seconds vs a car that does 90Km/h and gets 0-90 in 5 seconds.
stonehaven it was better against bombers because of 23 and 37 mm cannons which would have little problems quickly shutting down even huge beasts like B-36. F-86 with its tiny machineguns on the other hand...
They were not Martin B-26 Marauders, they were Douglas B-26 Invaders. Immediately after WWII the Martin B-26 was retired - a process that began late in the war by the A-26 Invader. No B-26 Marauders were used in the Korean War. Postwar the A for Attack designation was discontinued and the A-26 Invader was redesignated the B-26 Invader. I know, confusing, eh? It gets better. In 1962 the A for attack designation was revived (Think A-1 Skyraider , Douglas A-6, Vought A-7, etc.) and the Invader became the A-26 again for Vietnam.
Thank you, I noticed that he said B-26 Marauders at 5:15. My father flew B-26 Invaders in the Korean War, in 1953. They destroyed a lot of Chinese vehicles, mostly at night.
Really superb work. These are not your usual "click-bait" nonsense, and despite being rather a history, aviation, and ephemera aficionado, I always find Mark's videos interesting and educational. Very well done, and most highly appreciated!
The North Korean pilot who defected was No Kum-Sok. He received his reward, which was $100k despite the figure stated here. He moved to the United States and became a professor of aeronautical engineering. He's still alive and lives in Florida.
@ Dr. Felton - NO Marauders in Korea, the A-26 was re-designated a B-26. Yes this is commented previously but felt it was worth reiterating. That said, LOVE your vids sir. A breath of fresh air compared to the usual media compost.
I’ve heard about the Soviet Sabre in Wikipedia but I didn’t know that the Soviets went through all the trouble to get it and the U.S. doing everything they can to stop them from getting it! Thank u for this fully detailed video Mark!
Great video! One minor error. 5:11 The B-26 Marauder did not see action over Korea but the Douglas A-26 Invader, redesignated B-26 did. The Invader served in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Oh, and the Bay of Pigs invasion...
Wow your channel has grown so fast. I remember when I first subbed you had under 2k subs. Insane and well deserved my friend. I think I can speak for us all when I say we love detailed storys and info on ww2 and all the proxy wars since!
Mark's work is so good that, against my (cheapskate) principles, I'm going to donate to support the quality he produces. Come on, everyone, you know that you should too.
The American operation Moolah didn't actually convince any soviets or Koreans to defect. No Kum-Sok, the korean defector had no idea that the Americans were offering money and safety in return for his defection.
At eight my pride and joy was a Korean war Soveit pilots helmet complete with a .50 caliber Machinegun hole through both sides and a red star. Some pilots tropy that was sold for almost nothing at a rummage sale.
I believe that the first benefit to the Soviets of having studied the radar gun sight of the Sabre was then being able to build a detector for it. No more shooting the Migs down without warning, as soon as there were being targeted a sensor in their plane would give warning, and the closer the Sabre targeting them the faster the warning signal would go.
I really enjoy this channel. I found one minor discrepancy in this video. Dr. Felton mentions that the Chinese convoy was attacked by rocket-firing B-26 "Marauder" bombers. The Martin B-26 "Marauder" medium bomber was phased out of US service almost as soon as WWII was over. Douglas Aircraft produced the A-26 "Invader" attack bomber in the later years of the war. When the Martin plane was removed from service, the A-26 was re-designated B-26. The Douglas B-26 "Invader" was extensively used during the Korean War, and remained in service, participating the Bay of Pigs debacle and into the early part of the Vietnam War.
Basically, the sovets were very lucky that they managed to hit american jet in such way that american couldn’t make it to his home base nor he could drown it in water. The americans were more pragmatic. They simply offered money lol
The funny thing is, the reward had nothing to do with the migs capture. The north Korean defector was not even aware of the reward but did it for a better life
Been subscribed a while, really enjoy your content. A suggestion for a vid? Read somewhere about a Spetznaz raid on a US airfield in Vietnam to steal tech from Cobra gunships......not sure how much truth was in it.....
Funny thing is after the plane is down it was the Soviets who are defending the American plane and the American pilots who were actually trying to destroy it well thats what I call irnony :D
Wow!, yet another item of aviation history I had no idea about! Love the Soviet perspective. Are there many more stories mirroring famous western achievements like the capture of the Mig 15? In other words, are there many other tit-for-tat incidents where the Soviets or other adversaries gained an advantage over the West that the West doesn't care to bring up? There are so many gaps in the often repeated popular historical narrative. One example of what few Americans care to discuss is how many foreign made aircraft we have successfully employed. The British have never really neglected pointing out the usefulness of their US made aircraft. Did the US's lack of indigenous built combat aircraft in WWI inspire a sense of venerability if it were to highlight it's need to employ British combat aircraft, especially early in WWII? While we're at it, why were there so many US made aircraft that were highly effective in foreign services while we couldn't seem to figure out how to employ them successfully? Why have Americans seemingly exiled these same aircraft, not often mentioning them or acknowledging their American made contribution to the war effort?
I remember reading somewhere what made Sabre better than Mig-15 was not gun sight but hydraulic actuation that made much easier to maneuver and all around better cockpit visibility.
Excellent video, though I must say you have made one one notable error; the B-26 Marauder was only used in WWII. I believe you have made the understandable mistake of confusing the Martin-built Marauder with the Douglas A-26 Invader, which was widely used during the Korean War and, due to the retirement of the Marauder, was re-designated the B-26. Being a student of military aviation history, I can understand why you would be confused.
I did read of a similar operation in reverse when US forces discovered a downed Mig 15 and recovered it using a couple of helicopters and a number of ground personnel. The aircraft was flown out using the helicopters while the troops had to find their own way out.
The fact alone that no Robo-Voice is used in Mark‘s videos deserves a subscription. And then there is the high quality content... I‘m glad I found this channel. Keep up the good work.
Agree. And the fact he covers to ‘not often heard of’ stories, means it’s a auto-like which a new one pops up.
New to this channel? ;)
I thought (and still think) exactly like that when I found this channel
He is actually on the history or military channel as a commentator on some of the shows. Just saw him last night on the military channel and thought that guy sounds familiar. Good stuff.
@ Yes, this with TIK are basically my favourite channels by now
"F86 is faster, rolls, dives and turns better."
Literally next sentence:
"Mig15 is more maneuverable"
Those jets are 70 years old yet they still look sleek, beautiful and deadly.
The key factor in the F-86 ability to operate in transonic flight was the all moving horizontal stabiliser(HS). The Mig had a fixed HS and would go out of control in a supersonic dive speed. This is all covered in Chuck Yeager's book, and was the key to supersonic flight.
The F-86 also had an engine with axial compressors, while the Mig had the old style centrifugal compressors. The axial compressor jet engines were first used on the ME-262 WW2 German fighter and are now used on all large jet engines.The axial compressor engine for the ME-262 was designed by the forgotten great man Anselm Franz.
Well said
I've always loved cold war era jets
@Lochness MonstaBoth designes were taken from the german ta 183
MiG-15s SUCCESS WAS BASED ON BRITISH ENGINE TECHNOLOGY
A big part of the MiG-15's success was its engine, the Klimov VK-1, which was a reverse-engineered and modified design of the Rolls-Royce Nene engine, in 1946, the British Labor government allowed the sale of the Nene to the Soviets. This made the MiG-15 deadly fighter that was flown against the Allies durring the Korean War.
With all due respect to the UK and US governments, often times our worst enemy is our own leadership, Joesph Stalin commented on the sale saying, “What fool will sell us his secrets?”
Nothing better than hearing that intro in the morning
They should've just asked CJ to steal a jet.
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS STEAL THE DAMN PLANE CJ!
CJ could've brought a Harrier to the fight.
Enemy plane prepare to be vaporized😂
Just enter the cheat jumpjet
Shoot down some boats with it
i dont know how i got so hooked to this channel this is much better than every other documentary ive ever watched
I believe operation moolah was an accidental success, the pilot of the mig was merely tired of North Korea and decided to fly too the South. I'm sure the money was welcome as well however.
Yes, the pilot was not aware of the reward while he was defecting
I wouldn't call it a success at all. The pilot didn't even know about it, so that means the operation wasn't the reason for obtaining the Mig-15. In fact don't think any pilots defected due to moolah at all. So it's a failure.
Can we talk about how an operation to give away 1 million dollars is called "Moolah"
i agree. they could have been offering chocolate chip cookies for all the difference it made tempting pilots
@@suspicioususer that's the point
By far, this channel brings great joy to my heart. Your voice is like a soothing song a mother sings to her child, to lay him to sleep
*... The sabre can turn, dive and roll faster. The mig on the other hand was more manouverable"
LoL
Sabre had speed
Mig had turn rate
This rang strangely with me too, but then I thought about it: Manoeuvrability isn't about roll and turn rate. It's about *changing* roll and turn, ie acceleration. Imagine a car that does 100Km/h with 0-100 in 8 seconds vs a car that does 90Km/h and gets 0-90 in 5 seconds.
In Chuck Yeager's book he talked about the time he got to test fly a MiG-15 and Flew it to the very edge of its envelope of flight
stonehaven it was better against bombers because of 23 and 37 mm cannons which would have little problems quickly shutting down even huge beasts like B-36. F-86 with its tiny machineguns on the other hand...
They were not Martin B-26 Marauders, they were Douglas B-26 Invaders.
Immediately after WWII the Martin B-26 was retired - a process that began late in the war by the A-26 Invader. No B-26 Marauders were used in the Korean War.
Postwar the A for Attack designation was discontinued and the A-26 Invader was redesignated the B-26 Invader. I know, confusing, eh? It gets better. In 1962 the A for attack designation was revived (Think A-1 Skyraider , Douglas A-6, Vought A-7, etc.) and the Invader became the A-26 again for Vietnam.
Thank you, I noticed that he said B-26 Marauders at 5:15. My father flew B-26 Invaders in the Korean War, in 1953. They destroyed a lot of Chinese vehicles, mostly at night.
Really superb work. These are not your usual "click-bait" nonsense, and despite being rather a history, aviation, and ephemera aficionado, I always find Mark's videos interesting and educational.
Very well done, and most highly appreciated!
The North Korean pilot who defected was No Kum-Sok. He received his reward, which was $100k despite the figure stated here. He moved to the United States and became a professor of aeronautical engineering. He's still alive and lives in Florida.
This is an elite channel, content and quality at its very best, you can’t help but be riveted by it
blimey, that was exciting!
I didn't know about the crashed Sabre and had no idea what happens at the end! 😲
Just as s side note. The USCG calls those flying boats “Albatross” they have one on display here at the clearwater air station
That's the name Grumman gave it.
@ Dr. Felton - NO Marauders in Korea, the A-26 was re-designated a B-26. Yes this is commented previously but felt it was worth reiterating. That said, LOVE your vids sir. A breath of fresh air compared to the usual media compost.
We always here about the defecting NK MiG-15, but we never hear about the stories of U.S. aircraft captured by the Russians. Great story!
I’ve heard about the Soviet Sabre in Wikipedia but I didn’t know that the Soviets went through all the trouble to get it and the U.S. doing everything they can to stop them from getting it! Thank u for this fully detailed video Mark!
Another great informative video about something I did not know about.
Excellent video as always and Thanks Mark Felton .
Great video! One minor error. 5:11 The B-26 Marauder did not see action over Korea but the Douglas A-26 Invader, redesignated B-26 did. The Invader served in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Oh, and the Bay of Pigs invasion...
Great cat-and-mouse story. So many elements of deception and evasion.
What an amazing piece of history! This should be made into a major movie I think. Great video! My favorite channel at the moment!✌️
Wounderful put together and narrative, just as interesting voice as the voice from Sir David Attenborrugh .
Once again really interesting content! Keep up the good work!
Another awesome Mark Felton Prod. Thank you.
This guy Always puts out Good Content. Keep up the good work Mr. Felton.
Awesome video, today they are still as crazy.
Thanks for sharing
Wow your channel has grown so fast. I remember when I first subbed you had under 2k subs. Insane and well deserved my friend. I think I can speak for us all when I say we love detailed storys and info on ww2 and all the proxy wars since!
Mark's work is so good that, against my (cheapskate) principles, I'm going to donate to support the quality he produces. Come on, everyone, you know that you should too.
Such great insights give a glimpse of the action and the politics in play at the time. Great work Tom.
Great video👍
One of the coolest videos to date and man that intro/outro song pumps me up every time!
Thanks Mark for another great video.
Those sneaky Soviets, do anything for a Saber.
Except pay money.
Another interesting quick history lesson. God! I love this channel.
The American operation Moolah didn't actually convince any soviets or Koreans to defect.
No Kum-Sok, the korean defector had no idea that the Americans were offering money and safety in return for his defection.
As Always, awesome Mark!!!
fantastic story.thanks a lot Mark!
Loving your coverage of obscure air force history & trivia 👍
Outstanding thank you Mark!
A great uncle of mine served in the United States Air Force in Korea... This is a cool story!
Another great video. Well done Mark. 10/10
Thank you for your videos.
Great Vid! I look forward to these all the time!
At eight my pride and joy was a Korean war Soveit pilots helmet complete with a .50 caliber Machinegun hole through both sides and a red star. Some pilots tropy that was sold for almost nothing at a rummage sale.
The B-26 used in Korea was an Invader not a Marauder.
I believe that the first benefit to the Soviets of having studied the radar gun sight of the Sabre was then being able to build a detector for it. No more shooting the Migs down without warning, as soon as there were being targeted a sensor in their plane would give warning, and the closer the Sabre targeting them the faster the warning signal would go.
Excellent, as usual.
Well done.
Thanks- I enjoyed it.
Love your articles,formative, factual,and the music
Another high quality video. Keep up the good work!
I really enjoy this channel. I found one minor discrepancy in this video. Dr. Felton mentions that the Chinese convoy was attacked by rocket-firing B-26 "Marauder" bombers. The Martin B-26 "Marauder" medium bomber was phased out of US service almost as soon as WWII was over. Douglas Aircraft produced the A-26 "Invader" attack bomber in the later years of the war. When the Martin plane was removed from service, the A-26 was re-designated B-26. The Douglas B-26 "Invader" was extensively used during the Korean War, and remained in service, participating the Bay of Pigs debacle and into the early part of the Vietnam War.
Well it was bound to happen… I guess the most important part is the pilot got away.
That is a whole other story...... Russians holding US And Other POWs. Many were milked for technical info and not returned.
Love these stories ^_^ keep em up
Who wouldn't want an f 86? Thanks again Mark !
Awesome stuff, Keep them coming Mark👍
Great video!
Operation Moolah didn't pay off. The defecting pilot did not even know there was a cash reward for bringing in a MiG15.
Excellent video! Edge of the seat!
Too bad about the loss of the F-86.
Wow! I never knew that. Thank you.
Just subbed...love this channel.
Welcome aboard!
Great video as usual, thanks.
Basically, the sovets were very lucky that they managed to hit american jet in such way that american couldn’t make it to his home base nor he could drown it in water.
The americans were more pragmatic. They simply offered money lol
The funny thing is, the reward had nothing to do with the migs capture. The north Korean defector was not even aware of the reward but did it for a better life
Alex Kuznetsov the North Korean dude who defected didn’t even do it for the money lol
The guy that ended up defecting did not know of the reward until after he did it.
It's a cool story for a follow up video
The Americans were more pragmatic...but it took them 2 years longer to get their hands on a mig.
The communists wouldn't offer money. That's something a capitalist would do.
Stealing from capitalist however...
Another great video 👍👍
Thumbs up mate..would suggest a longer version delivered in that Mark Felton style⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐✌👍👜
I wonder if that recovered F-86 still exists in a Russian museum somewhere.
Been subscribed a while, really enjoy your content. A suggestion for a vid? Read somewhere about a Spetznaz raid on a US airfield in Vietnam to steal tech from Cobra gunships......not sure how much truth was in it.....
I look forward to that intro music just as much as I do the information in the video.
Excellent video! I'm a amateur history buff & when I get a chance I always like to watch your video's first.
Well done, Konstantin.
An amazing story thank you
I just saw Dr. Felton on the documentary “Hitlers steel beast”... But only upon recognizing that wonderfully familiar voice!
Good job, cpt. Константин :-)
Fascinating stuff. Thank you.
The F-86 and Mig-15 both owe Willy Messerschmitt a commission.
Best looking aircraft America ever produced just stunning
Some one should definitely make a movie on it......
abeer hasan get the russians to do it, watching russian films about the ussr is a meme in itself
Wow what an amazing story
The History Guy and Mark Felton need to collab!!
MiG-15 used a British-designed Rolls-Royce engine - one of the reasons why it could compete against US jets.
I love your posts. A revaluation!!
Excellent snippet as usual.
a lot of your Stories can be such cool Movies
Great vid!
Funny thing is after the plane is down it was the Soviets who are defending the American plane and the American pilots who were actually trying to destroy it well thats what I call irnony :D
Wow!, yet another item of aviation history I had no idea about! Love the Soviet perspective. Are there many more stories mirroring famous western achievements like the capture of the Mig 15? In other words, are there many other tit-for-tat incidents where the Soviets or other adversaries gained an advantage over the West that the West doesn't care to bring up? There are so many gaps in the often repeated popular historical narrative. One example of what few Americans care to discuss is how many foreign made aircraft we have successfully employed. The British have never really neglected pointing out the usefulness of their US made aircraft. Did the US's lack of indigenous built combat aircraft in WWI inspire a sense of venerability if it were to highlight it's need to employ British combat aircraft, especially early in WWII? While we're at it, why were there so many US made aircraft that were highly effective in foreign services while we couldn't seem to figure out how to employ them successfully? Why have Americans seemingly exiled these same aircraft, not often mentioning them or acknowledging their American made contribution to the war effort?
Mark Felton.....instant click to view.
I don't know how Mark Felton uncovers these stories. He must be a wonderful researcher.
I remember reading somewhere what made Sabre better than Mig-15 was not gun sight but hydraulic actuation that made much easier to maneuver and all around better cockpit visibility.
I really really love your interesting story's
Wow, what a story Mark
Who, on earth, would gives these great videos thumbs down?
Excellent video, though I must say you have made one one notable error; the B-26 Marauder was only used in WWII. I believe you have made the understandable mistake of confusing the Martin-built Marauder with the Douglas A-26 Invader, which was widely used during the Korean War and, due to the retirement of the Marauder, was re-designated the B-26. Being a student of military aviation history, I can understand why you would be confused.
I did read of a similar operation in reverse when US forces discovered a downed Mig 15 and recovered it using a couple of helicopters and a number of ground personnel. The aircraft was flown out using the helicopters while the troops had to find their own way out.
Good stuff.