His warband system allows you to play with units from other DLC without owning them, so it's the best bang for your buck arguably if you don't own stuff like Chorfs. The Empire benefited the most from the paid DLC when it comes to the faction's "power level" increasing, but the Dwarfs benefited the most from the free additions. And the new Dwarf units are a bit nuts lol we'll see how much more the new stuff gets toned down or reworked
@@Supercohboy yeah that’s my point the warband system benefitted tamurkhan greatly but if we were to just look at what is available to the race as a whole in terms of paid and unpaid content the empire/dwarfs got the best of it.
Probably just a bad matchup, y'know the very melee focused chaos armies of Nurgle running into the VERY overpowered guns of the Dawi and Empire isn't a very favorable for Nurgle. Either they sit and get pummeled by Artillery or rush them and get shot to death by gunpowder. Elspeth and Malakai being overtuned rn doesn't help too. At least Nurgle got some love in the DLC, they got a much needed rework and feel a LOT better to play.
@@mesuper455 They do, but Tamurkhan definitely lacks an equivalent to Elspeth's gunnery school, and Malakai's workshop. His chieftain's can't really compete with the sheer amount of factionwide buffs those two mechanics provide.
@@mathieuguenier3658 its cool, but its totally overpowered, its even more overpowered then the tower of zarr confoderation from the Chaos dwarfs becuase even with alot of skill it takes quit alot of time in. Comparissions to the grudge System
@@We3dCraftLP it is a clear improvement upon the old grudge system i've played the other lords with it and MY GOD i don't feel i'm getting fucked over because i wanna prioritize building up instead of settling grudges !
yall are rapidly becoming my top 3 favorite youtube channels period. perfect editing and commentary and everything. any of your videos are rewatchable 3-4 times, hell, i can't remember the last time i rewatched a movie or tv show! i pretty much never comment but holy fuck yall deserve some recognition, keep up the god tier content fr
If there's one thing I know about Warhammer, it's that eventually rnGesus will absolutely dance on your broken corpse. In tabletop I have experienced victory without losing a model, as well as performing a lethal miscast on turn 1 with my lord.
Nurgle early game is very slow. But after early game when you build up crazy amounts of infections it becomes very easy. Because you can rush military cycles with infections and you can just pump out lots of late game units. And through tech, Nurgle corruption and skill lines you can basicly recruit units at full health. I think mid-late game Nurgle can swarm Malakai and Elsbeth and win but in the early stages Nurgle gonna lose.
@@berkekaradag1410 I feel like nurgle is still going to buckle under high upkeep and recruitment cost though. The other factions don't have any issue with money even when tamurkhan is nonstop looting and raiding settlements, he fails to get an equal amount of armies out.
@@loveluclins In the mid and late game money is not a problem for any of the factions. Including Nurgle. And the thing about Nurgle is, with the other factions losing a high cost, late game army and units hurts but with Nurgle I just don't care. My soul grinder doomstack army destroyed? Oh no! Anyway I just recruit another full army in the same turn and next turn they are at full hp. Also swarming with Nurgle is easy. Just pump out low-mid tier armies and swarm the lands. You don't need more high quality armies than Empire to beat them. You just need 1 or 2 high quailty armies and lots of cheap ones. Even the cheap ones are unkillable. Killing buffed Nurglings takes so oooo much time. I like the Nurgle play style. It is different. It is not weak or op. Every faction in this game is easy to play anyways.
This was a really fun watch - really like the unique style, memes and bouncing between perspectives, kept it really entertaining while better understanding why certain things were done.
man i just stumbled onto this channel and it reminds me so much of the death battles channel to the commentary, the voices everything. certified classic
You guys are so entertaining. I have spammed all your videos in the last few days. Really entertaining. Geary editing, funny commentary and good gameplay. Great stuff.
Honestly hoping to see more from you guys, one of my new absolute favoritr Warhammer channels and this is my second time watching this after i went through everything else on the channel.
Bois. Keep. It. Up. You have filled a niche I didn’t know needed filling. And after watching every video I have looked for something comparable. Alas. I cannot find it. This will snowball I feel it in my bones.
Hey man, just wanna say your videos are a nice af find for me. I play a lot of wh3 multiplayer with my uncle, and it's nice to get some tips about strategies and good races for multiplayer we were getting wrong. Just thanks overall for the awesome and funny content xD
devs knew theyre holding out on unit count cause it could affect both the Engine and PC and now we can see the result on Riggs's Hells storms in the end, it was so crushing
epidemius is really fun lord but i had much more fun playing as tamurkhan and confederating him. Late game with a lot of plagues makes him feel unstoppable
A deserved win! Elspeth may be busted, but Malakai's broken! I felt your pain at the end with the artillery refusing to fire, haha. If such a thing happens again, might I reccommend using ground target mode? Should work most of the time. Only artillery I have confirmed so far it does not work on is Chaos Dwarf Dreadquake mortar.
That final battle, you had your hellstorms on guard mode. I don't think they will fire at will in guard, only fire to defend themselves, that's why it shot that random person.
...And he lost. Definitely was the strategic play, and idk where you're getting "sweaty" from... by that logic, using lots of gyrocopters is sweaty too because it's good strategy. smh
The thing about the Thunderbarge is it actually has a *ton* of missile resistance. Granted, if it gets shot by 30 cannons it *will* still die, but it doesn't take tooo much damage.
What an amazing tournament. Poor Nurgle, got crushed right from thr get-go. Malakai really is seriously strong with all the mechanics he has and that the Dwarfs have.
TBF, 70% missile resistance zepplins with basically no range into a player who's massing buffed missile specialists, 70% missile resistance might not be enough then again it might but I don't think he could even get the tiers of settlement needed in the timeframe
I absolutely dominated with Tamurkhan by rushing to get Rot Knights in decent numbers into every army. Having a fast moving, high impact flanking cav force in a Nurgle army is unbelievably strong.
I think that Timurland could've actually beaten Malakai if you took him off the mount and made him harder to hit. That guy is ridiculously tanky even without the mount and slaughters infantry.
it wouldn't help him much. Would've made him much slower plus a foot lord that can be staggered. It's a good strat vs ai, but not so great vs players. Tbh new dwarves, particularly malakai are just better than nurgle. Their economy is better, they have better recruitement, they have better units (thunderbarges in particular be crazy) and way better expansion/autoresolve.
@@sympunny8636 I don't think Timuland can be staggard due to his mass. Also its okay if he's slower which I don't think he is with the mount on him. Also dwarves best way of dealing with single entity units is just using ranged so if they can't hit as much less damage.
@@peterhe6699 the trouble is, once you take his off his mount, he's slow and doesn't have great aoe damage. So they can just put a basic unit to tie him down and slaughter his army in the meantime. I saw he didn't have his mortis yet, so he basically becomes too slow, too slow to move, too slow to kill.
@@sympunny8636 The AOE damage just makes the battle longer so its okay and if you send him in alone they got no army to kill he's a one man doomstack. You want Timurland in melee where he can't be easily shot if he's on his mount anybody can shoot him in melee or not in warhammer unless you got a duelist lord or hero missiles are the only way to kill a powerful character like Timurland. At least on foot it's harder to hit him.
Why didn’t you instant recruit Nurgle’s units in your home territory when Tamurkhan’s capital was under assault? Nurgle has a recruiting pool, with instant recruitment although at lower health, a defense army sprouting out of the ground might’ve saved that Tamurkhan campaign.
it was pretty early on in the campaign, he probably didn't have that many units in his pool, and they'd struggle at lower health to do any significant damage. Plus it'd be a large amount of recruit gold, which it didn't look like he really had.
Try the outrider stack against the dwarves. I believe it outranges the flamethrowers and it's fast. It can take down the gyrocopters and it's not going to be caught by anything else the dwarves are using.
So I have a question in regards to your head to head rules and settings regarding AI 1: what sort of settings do you guys run? 2: do you auto resolve all ai battles or manually do some? If so are there some conditions that you decide which you are allowed to manually battle?
I though the most left are the nuln ironsides. Then what are those? Because i thought it was: Nuln Ironsides, Landship, Hochland Long Rifles, Steam Tank Volley Gun, Mystery Unit. So what would the other one be then?
In my opinion I think if u used the Outriders with the buffs from both the workshop and the Engineers trait u will definitely win. And thanks for the video
@@jamieeddolls5605 yeah, but Slaneesh is easily countered by player. The faction has very one dimensional roster. Slaneesh either brings a glass cannon cavalry stack or some sort of mortal infantry/monster stack... either way, Order factions can deal with both cases in several ways against which Slaneesh just doesn't have any counterplay... Maybe, when they get DLC as well and some new units, perhaps this will change...
@@trixus4768 being squishy doesn't really matter when you're against empire and dwarf gun lines that melt your units regardless. Slaanesh has the physical resist and speed to be a problem with chaos furies and summons to disrupt the backline. An easier solution though would probably be Skarsnik with vanguard deployment armies that just spawn right in front of them
@@jamieeddolls5605 that is true, but the lack of armor definitely hurts a lot. Yes, demons do have a physical resistance but it's not enough. Remember, that units with low AP do usually get higher overall missile/weapon strenght. For example, one of the best units in the Empire roster against the Slaneesh right now are the pistoliers. They have very little AP, but missile strenght of 41 (with a couple easy to get boosts). 20% physical resistance will block about 8-9 points of dmg from that. That's not nearly enough to make any significant difference, especially with an absolutely ridiculous amount of ammo they can get (even outside of Elspeth's faction)
The fact he lost 2000 men fighting a grudge settler army that would despawn in 3 turns
Honestly that was so sad to watch
The pronunciation of “Hochland” at 14:39 was so American that all oil to my name has been taken and my home has been hit by a drone strike.
my ears struggled to withstand the Americanisms at times haha
Apologies, I speak American natively. English is my second language.
@@morewarpstone it's German you should muster. Which is also spoken in the USA still to this day :p
oh my lord that was supposed to be hochland? nah fam no way in hell
@@dEcmircEd I deny that this atrocity they call "texan German" is to be regarded as anything but a joke and offense to actual German. :D
That Ungrim confederation was diabolical
I love how nurgle who was supposed to be the main focus of the dlc ironically came out with less then the other two races in the dlc
His warband system allows you to play with units from other DLC without owning them, so it's the best bang for your buck arguably if you don't own stuff like Chorfs. The Empire benefited the most from the paid DLC when it comes to the faction's "power level" increasing, but the Dwarfs benefited the most from the free additions. And the new Dwarf units are a bit nuts lol we'll see how much more the new stuff gets toned down or reworked
@@Supercohboy yeah that’s my point the warband system benefitted tamurkhan greatly but if we were to just look at what is available to the race as a whole in terms of paid and unpaid content the empire/dwarfs got the best of it.
Probably just a bad matchup, y'know the very melee focused chaos armies of Nurgle running into the VERY overpowered guns of the Dawi and Empire isn't a very favorable for Nurgle. Either they sit and get pummeled by Artillery or rush them and get shot to death by gunpowder. Elspeth and Malakai being overtuned rn doesn't help too.
At least Nurgle got some love in the DLC, they got a much needed rework and feel a LOT better to play.
@@mesuper455 They do, but Tamurkhan definitely lacks an equivalent to Elspeth's gunnery school, and Malakai's workshop. His chieftain's can't really compete with the sheer amount of factionwide buffs those two mechanics provide.
Yeah and tamurkhan needs time if he gets like 50 turns hes broken can easily get 50 ward save and insane damage with all the chieftains@@mesuper455
Elspeth Workshop is strong. But the dwarf update is just silly and totally overpowered
i love the dwarf biast !
@@mathieuguenier3658 its cool, but its totally overpowered, its even more overpowered then the tower of zarr confoderation from the Chaos dwarfs becuase even with alot of skill it takes quit alot of time in. Comparissions to the grudge System
@@We3dCraftLP it is a clear improvement upon the old grudge system i've played the other lords with it and MY GOD i don't feel i'm getting fucked over because i wanna prioritize building up instead of settling grudges !
More warpstone uploads = instant dopamine
The true warhammer experience. "And then Gotrek came, th end."
yall are rapidly becoming my top 3 favorite youtube channels period. perfect editing and commentary and everything. any of your videos are rewatchable 3-4 times, hell, i can't remember the last time i rewatched a movie or tv show! i pretty much never comment but holy fuck yall deserve some recognition, keep up the god tier content fr
This is how CA should be promoting the new expansion. This is sick. Hats off to yall, great content👏👏
Hey babe wake up, more warpstone just dropped
The way I speed clicked-
Ikr! I've been waiting for this
@@simpleman3898 we all have
Same!
I hit it so fast I broke my thumb
@@michaeltarver8235 ouch
Bro bet against Gotrek.... his defeat was inevitable.
If there's one thing I know about Warhammer, it's that eventually rnGesus will absolutely dance on your broken corpse. In tabletop I have experienced victory without losing a model, as well as performing a lethal miscast on turn 1 with my lord.
Or the old skaven lightning cannon. Pretty good chance to “accidentally” wipe your lord off the map
You guys should do a battle for lustria! Lots of diffrent factions to chose from
👀
Let the Lustriabowl commence
These Warpstone campaigns are on another level. Love them!
20:03 i know mak was pissed about the teleport lmaoo great video guys keep it up
I feel like Nurgle's recruitment is just too slow to keep up with regular factions.
Not really when you make it good its actually amazing but they are just slow and this was a super bad match up
Nurgle early game is very slow. But after early game when you build up crazy amounts of infections it becomes very easy. Because you can rush military cycles with infections and you can just pump out lots of late game units. And through tech, Nurgle corruption and skill lines you can basicly recruit units at full health. I think mid-late game Nurgle can swarm Malakai and Elsbeth and win but in the early stages Nurgle gonna lose.
@@berkekaradag1410 I feel like nurgle is still going to buckle under high upkeep and recruitment cost though. The other factions don't have any issue with money even when tamurkhan is nonstop looting and raiding settlements, he fails to get an equal amount of armies out.
@@loveluclins In the mid and late game money is not a problem for any of the factions. Including Nurgle. And the thing about Nurgle is, with the other factions losing a high cost, late game army and units hurts but with Nurgle I just don't care. My soul grinder doomstack army destroyed? Oh no! Anyway I just recruit another full army in the same turn and next turn they are at full hp.
Also swarming with Nurgle is easy. Just pump out low-mid tier armies and swarm the lands. You don't need more high quality armies than Empire to beat them. You just need 1 or 2 high quailty armies and lots of cheap ones. Even the cheap ones are unkillable. Killing buffed Nurglings takes so oooo much time.
I like the Nurgle play style. It is different. It is not weak or op. Every faction in this game is easy to play anyways.
You guys should do a much larger tournament with a a lot of your friends, really liked this format guys.
i have a feeling this would be a lot less confusing if both players didnt have the same image for them
This was a really fun watch - really like the unique style, memes and bouncing between perspectives, kept it really entertaining while better understanding why certain things were done.
The production value and content stays top tier on more warpstone - definitely has become my favorite warhammer content
Damn what a campaigns guys. 23:58 lmao. You guys made my day
Your guys editing is insanely good and the commentary is just hilariously entertaining 😂😂😂👏👏👏
This was a good video but it’s HILARIOUS that neither of the Nurgle units won either time… IN THE NURGLE CENTRIC DLC!
Holy shit, this video is so well edited. I can only imagine the sheer amount of effort that went into this. Well done More Warpstone!
man i just stumbled onto this channel and it reminds me so much of the death battles channel to the commentary, the voices everything. certified classic
You guys are so entertaining. I have spammed all your videos in the last few days. Really entertaining. Geary editing, funny commentary and good gameplay. Great stuff.
Great video. I'd really like to see a 2v2 video of Order vs Chaos where we can see the factions reach mid to late game.
YES-YES NEW TOURNAMENT-CONTEST!
This is the most entertaining channel ever, keep it up
Thank you!!!
Honestly hoping to see more from you guys, one of my new absolute favoritr Warhammer channels and this is my second time watching this after i went through everything else on the channel.
Great tournament guys! Really pleasantly surprised to see it was a campaign tournament rather than just battles - I'd love t see more of them! :D
You guys make such awesome content, always so happy to see a new video!
And John Browning looked upon what Creative Assembly had wrought, and found it good.
Recently found your channel! I love the uploads, keep up the great content
Bois. Keep. It. Up. You have filled a niche I didn’t know needed filling. And after watching every video I have looked for something comparable. Alas. I cannot find it. This will snowball I feel it in my bones.
This is by far the coolest TWW3 content I´ve seen! Thanks for the amazing video.
Hey man, just wanna say your videos are a nice af find for me. I play a lot of wh3 multiplayer with my uncle, and it's nice to get some tips about strategies and good races for multiplayer we were getting wrong. Just thanks overall for the awesome and funny content xD
Saw this video pop up in my feed. Didn't think much of it. Just finished watching it. You have earned a sub from me. Good shit!
You guys are amazing at story telling and editing!
devs knew theyre holding out on unit count cause it could affect both the Engine and PC and now we can see the result on Riggs's Hells storms in the end, it was so crushing
Just found you guys today and this is like the 6th video i've watched. Keep it up guys! Very entertaining
Your videos are crazy entertaining,been binging for 2days.Just wanted to say thank you.
epidemius is really fun lord but i had much more fun playing as tamurkhan and confederating him. Late game with a lot of plagues makes him feel unstoppable
A deserved win! Elspeth may be busted, but Malakai's broken!
I felt your pain at the end with the artillery refusing to fire, haha.
If such a thing happens again, might I reccommend using ground target mode? Should work most of the time.
Only artillery I have confirmed so far it does not work on is Chaos Dwarf Dreadquake mortar.
That final battle, you had your hellstorms on guard mode. I don't think they will fire at will in guard, only fire to defend themselves, that's why it shot that random person.
When the Hellstorm crews started unionizing.😆
where is the-the warpstone man-things?
The alliances this guy made were so sweaty for such an already strong Lord & Starting Position. Like REALLY :)
...And he lost. Definitely was the strategic play, and idk where you're getting "sweaty" from... by that logic, using lots of gyrocopters is sweaty too because it's good strategy. smh
Just found this channel and i gotta say WOW i lOVE the videos! Super entertaining and i especially love the editing and storytelling:
I feel like if those hell rockets would have fired you would have won that damn
Well shit, I've binged all your videos in a few days and am starving for more.
14:55 you can get 70 percent missile resist on them lmao
The thing about the Thunderbarge is it actually has a *ton* of missile resistance. Granted, if it gets shot by 30 cannons it *will* still die, but it doesn't take tooo much damage.
Which is quite stupid
i didn’t know about malakai yet, loaded up norse for the first time. attacked him right off. he spawned a blimp and it solod my army
I've said it before and imma say it again. Hands down the best warhammer content out there.
What an amazing tournament. Poor Nurgle, got crushed right from thr get-go. Malakai really is seriously strong with all the mechanics he has and that the Dwarfs have.
Malakai didnt even use his 70 % missile resistance Doomzeppelins. He is Mr. Powercreep.
TBF, 70% missile resistance zepplins with basically no range into a player who's massing buffed missile specialists, 70% missile resistance might not be enough
then again
it might
but I don't think he could even get the tiers of settlement needed in the timeframe
@@Zeldrake Malakai can build this building real quick.
*Over there starts playing as the Elpseth landa on the chaos waste*
I absolutely dominated with Tamurkhan by rushing to get Rot Knights in decent numbers into every army. Having a fast moving, high impact flanking cav force in a Nurgle army is unbelievably strong.
I think that Timurland could've actually beaten Malakai if you took him off the mount and made him harder to hit. That guy is ridiculously tanky even without the mount and slaughters infantry.
it wouldn't help him much. Would've made him much slower plus a foot lord that can be staggered. It's a good strat vs ai, but not so great vs players. Tbh new dwarves, particularly malakai are just better than nurgle. Their economy is better, they have better recruitement, they have better units (thunderbarges in particular be crazy) and way better expansion/autoresolve.
@@sympunny8636 I don't think Timuland can be staggard due to his mass. Also its okay if he's slower which I don't think he is with the mount on him. Also dwarves best way of dealing with single entity units is just using ranged so if they can't hit as much less damage.
yeah, tamurkhan is better against ranged heavy factions when he isnt on bubelos. he turns into one of the biggest entities in the game.
@@peterhe6699 the trouble is, once you take his off his mount, he's slow and doesn't have great aoe damage. So they can just put a basic unit to tie him down and slaughter his army in the meantime. I saw he didn't have his mortis yet, so he basically becomes too slow, too slow to move, too slow to kill.
@@sympunny8636 The AOE damage just makes the battle longer so its okay and if you send him in alone they got no army to kill he's a one man doomstack. You want Timurland in melee where he can't be easily shot if he's on his mount anybody can shoot him in melee or not in warhammer unless you got a duelist lord or hero missiles are the only way to kill a powerful character like Timurland. At least on foot it's harder to hit him.
GO, GO, GO! How do you not have more views, the algorithm has no taste.
last match is basically Malakia vs every damn faction in that area
The ancestor gods are proud of this victory
CHAOS FINGS! EMPIRES MEN! GINGER STUNTIES! ALL OF 'EM AIN'T NO MATCH FOOR DA MIGHTY GORK AND MORK!
This is a diseased version of fall of the samurai with those hails of bullets.
You should do a war of the beard re enactement: dwarves vs high elves
Yesssss i was waiting for this. Poor nurgle, maybe better on a more than 1 on 1. Your multi-player campaigns are epic😊
I would love a long version of this!
Why didn’t you instant recruit Nurgle’s units in your home territory when Tamurkhan’s capital was under assault? Nurgle has a recruiting pool, with instant recruitment although at lower health, a defense army sprouting out of the ground might’ve saved that Tamurkhan campaign.
it was pretty early on in the campaign, he probably didn't have that many units in his pool, and they'd struggle at lower health to do any significant damage. Plus it'd be a large amount of recruit gold, which it didn't look like he really had.
Try the outrider stack against the dwarves. I believe it outranges the flamethrowers and it's fast. It can take down the gyrocopters and it's not going to be caught by anything else the dwarves are using.
Nurgle went from trash to decent, the dwarfs and the empire went from decent to overpowered
I’d love to see a massive 4 way with the new factions, prder vs nurgle, and see if nurgle can get the time to build up
I'm new to this channel. When i clicked on this video I didn't think id be getting such A Grade content.
"everything that can go wrong is"
best TWW3 content creator ever. amazing videos!
I really like this channel vids. Hopefully you keep posting fun multiplayer campaigns !!
8:44 don't be fooled. Electoral machinations is a deceptively powerful mechanic. Also Nuln Ironsides > Hochland Long Rifles.
Great video fun to see a different type of tw3 content
great content, like the care in the editing
Keep it up! I love this stuff, the more content the better!
2 factions that honestly just kinda hard counter nurgle vs nurgle lmao
Short? That’s going in the book!
To get all the bonuses from tamys LH's it takes quite a bit of time. But he did kinda just suicide charge your capital as well.
Feel bad for Mac getting frigging Epidemius of all the new stuff
the purple grnade launchers with the upgrades are OP of OP... make sure you use it next time...maye doom stack them
So I have a question in regards to your head to head rules and settings regarding AI
1: what sort of settings do you guys run?
2: do you auto resolve all ai battles or manually do some? If so are there some conditions that you decide which you are allowed to manually battle?
The matchup was simply too stacked against Nurgle.
His lumbering melee tanks faced off against it direct counter, the ranged tank busters.
8:57 I need a Total war exper here 😅
What is the unit to the right of the screen called? Is that the engineer? Because i only know the first 4
Those are the nuln ironsides
I though the most left are the nuln ironsides. Then what are those? Because i thought it was: Nuln Ironsides, Landship, Hochland Long Rifles, Steam Tank Volley Gun, Mystery Unit. So what would the other one be then?
@@Stormgamer-xb7gv those are the hochland longrifles Regiment of Renown, The Hergig Jaegerkorps
@@grtgtz7771 thanks!
@@grtgtz7771 have a great day
Malakai adventures + dighting deamons at the start is so much more money!
In my opinion I think if u used the Outriders with the buffs from both the workshop and the Engineers trait u will definitely win.
And thanks for the video
he didn't use steamtanks either, literally the unit with 100% missile block chance
Ah, my monthly dose of Warpstone has arrived. (Ulthuan thunderdome when?)
But no losing bracket fight between khan and nurgle's accountant?
Been waiting for a upload and finally it happens 🫥
yall are the best please keep making videos
you know you can get 60% missile resistance on thunderbarges with malakai right?
They sassy nurgling cameo
Dawi are gonna be crazy from now on
Tbh, it went exactly the same way I expected. Tamurkhan is good - for a chaos faction. But he doesn't even come anywhere close to order factions...
I feel like a Slaanesh player would have ran circles around these armies in the field although sieges would be almost impossible
@@jamieeddolls5605 yeah, but Slaneesh is easily countered by player. The faction has very one dimensional roster. Slaneesh either brings a glass cannon cavalry stack or some sort of mortal infantry/monster stack... either way, Order factions can deal with both cases in several ways against which Slaneesh just doesn't have any counterplay... Maybe, when they get DLC as well and some new units, perhaps this will change...
@@trixus4768 being squishy doesn't really matter when you're against empire and dwarf gun lines that melt your units regardless. Slaanesh has the physical resist and speed to be a problem with chaos furies and summons to disrupt the backline. An easier solution though would probably be Skarsnik with vanguard deployment armies that just spawn right in front of them
@@jamieeddolls5605 that is true, but the lack of armor definitely hurts a lot. Yes, demons do have a physical resistance but it's not enough. Remember, that units with low AP do usually get higher overall missile/weapon strenght. For example, one of the best units in the Empire roster against the Slaneesh right now are the pistoliers. They have very little AP, but missile strenght of 41 (with a couple easy to get boosts). 20% physical resistance will block about 8-9 points of dmg from that. That's not nearly enough to make any significant difference, especially with an absolutely ridiculous amount of ammo they can get (even outside of Elspeth's faction)
I wish my friends all played warhammer 3 so I could do stuff like this