Villains might have been treated badly by a system of anything similar but like the famous joker line ' like madness as you know, it's like gravity, all of takes is a little push ' or ' all it takes one bad day '
My own powers did not bring resurrection, it was greed‥ the greed of men summoned me back & the justice not define the mighty. The truth is that humanity desires burgeoning desires within them, which leads them to submit to their religious creeds, yes? You say that mere power is not what leads mankind but respect & generosity, that your claim that those things is that what's truly guide humanity⁈… Prosperous! ⁓ Dracula Vlad Tepes from Castlevania, Symphony of the Night
too basic just face it world cruel and you taste it in the air as one puts on knuckle klucksters while another tries to fight fair by standers stare in the end its a story that goes around with out care as a solution doesnt exists in this atompshere
The clip of Tai Lung made me realize that Tai Lung wasn’t actually mad that he didn’t become the Dragon Warrior, he was mad that Shifu didn’t even bother to defend him after all the sacrifice Tai Lung made.
The only reason he's mad is because he spent his whole life training or a purpose which then he was cast aside for. It is such an insane thing to punish someone for
Yeah but regarding the Kung Fu Panda films, they would be perfect if it weren't for one flaw. The villains motives. The films don't actually show why the villains became villains, just that they did.
@@mubeenplayz5246 Not really. Can you explain why Oogway saw darkness in Tai Lung? Why Shen started using fireworks as weaponry or why Kai started using chi for nefarious means?
we also see how flawed the "heroes" are, how easily they could fix everything if they wanted too, and how they cling on to power that is not theirs to hold.. honestly the only super hero worth a damn is spiderman, everyone else is either an evil weapon dealer hugging technology advanced enough to save the world, all so they can look flashhy and be seen as heroes; or they got so much power it's a joke there is any crime in the world besides the occasssional world ending stuff ^^
disagree, it is always a choice, at the end of the day. villains and heroes have the same backstory - pain, difference is what they choose to do about it. Villain says "the world hurt me, i will hurt it back" and the hero says "the world hurt me, im not gonna let it hurt anybody else". Heroes use pain, villains are used by it.
"What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with society that abandons him and treats him like trash?! You get what you fucking deserved." I love that line
Honestly Syndrome's biggest mistake was just unleashing his massive bot in the city. He straight up could have just left the Incredibles there, sold his gadgets, and that would've been that. It's not like he's selling his tech illegally. What would the Incredibles even do at that point? They couldn't legally arrest him, he's operating in international waters.
@@cordthethird I forgot he literally kidnapped a bunch of heroes to test his bot on. I suppose the Incredibles would have had to prove that. If he's smart, he'll make it so they never can, and then just laugh as he rolls around in his endlessly growing pile of money.
That final quote actually reminded me of a counter-quote that - in a lot of circumstances - actually shows the true motives of the villain's professed ideals. "The world you're speaking of will be kinder and gentler only for you!" - Lelouch vi Britannia, Code Geass. People that profess their desire to change the world for the benefit of all... they often times only really mean themselves, because they think everyone else is just like them.
This is such a good statement. People will hear villains speak and think that they’re maybe not all that wrong, because every villain that ever plays on a major stage (fictional or not) is a very intelligent individual with some ability to grasp truth. However those people miss the catch: villains are villainous because they found truth and then twisted it to better suit themselves. It just sounds plausible now because it’s coming to your ears from someone smart enough to hide the clever twists they put into that truth.
I mean, that's one of the foundations of being a "villain", isn't it? "My ideals matter more than everyone else". Said ideals may be in favor to the villain's own people, friends, loved ones, finding justice for past transgressions, etc. But in securing them, he forsakes everyone else. It honestly makes more sense to prioritize your own and live in your own victory than to save everyone else and die in the process.
"Everyone is the hero of their own story"- Handsome Jack "if the rule you followed brought you here, of what use was that rule" Anton Chigurh lines I think about more than I should
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." So often, the "best" and most relatable villains are the ones you understand, even sympathize with, because they believe what they're doing is right and just. Evil for evil's sake so rarely exists.
Now if this world treat us like this why should we still need to follow the rules. Rules are for the weak to obey it, while the strong change it and embrace as a weapon against the poors. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
3:49 Tai lung is one my most favorite villians. Mainly because I can relate to him Tai lung became how is out of love wanting to make shifu proud everything he did he did for his father approval and praise. He was so blinded by wanting to be the best and shifu praise he didn’t see own growing darkness.
Plus that he's right, Shifu raised him specifically to be the Dragon Warrior and spent all his life telling him he was destined for it, but when Oogway said no, Shifu just went "well, he said no, i guess we move on" while Tai Lung is left there thinking ".......so i broke my body training for so many years.....for nothing?"
@@AzureRoxeThe whole point is that he isn't right though. I know everyone wants to go with the whole "oh my God, he wasn't given everything he wanted" logic to justify his actions, but you lot seem to forget that part of Chinese culture is literally being able to accept loss, and be humble about it. What do you think would've happened the first time someone refused to accept him as the actual Dragon Warrior when he undoubtedly throws the title around as though he's owed something? They're probably not walking away from it.
@@abemeyers5009 Most things are chosen for you, but you do occasionally get to make a choice. Usually in how you treat others and how you meet the world, especially when you find yourself in any position of responsibility.
@@therandomcommenter6629Because most people see their actual, literal crimes for what they are. For every "society forced me to be bad" type of line spouted, there's usually a dozen innocent men, and women who could've been willing to implement actual positive change that were mindlessly cut down.
@@therobustempyrean1436 Its all based on perspective, we see it as bad. They see it as fighting for what they see as right. "You strive for your justice, I strive for mine"
@@YourLightning28 just because some people playing god, doesn't mean they're God. We think we know everything, but the truth is but we don't know anything. Villains are people who gave up to humanity, and nothing more dangerous than human with no humanity. Only destruction.
But they aren't quite right. The joker misjudges people. And loses. Syndrome takes _everything_ personally. Even when there's other factors occupying Mr. Incredible. Josh Brolin himself said that Thanos's main problem is callousness. He has a big enough lever to move the world, so he's gonna prove himself _right._ Other Joker is literally delusional, and his decision to assert himself only leads to less control over his world. Veidt was wrong. Nuclear war wasn't inevitable. The Sovier Union fell. Voldemort wants a lever, like Thanos. But unlike Thanos he doesn't have anything to use it on, so he keeps trying to get bigger and bigger levers. Et cetera. However, Tai Lung is completely right. Oogway made a weapon, not a man.
A real hero CAN identify with the villain. Someone who can't identify with the villain is likely too naive to fix the problems the villain is targeting. Someone who CAN identify with the villain has the ability to help fix what made them the way they are.
Its not even about identifying as a villain, its about understanding(not agreeing with) their motives. Many think of them as just evil, when they have their own "justified" reasons for doing what they do. Whether its right or wrong is up to you to decide and thats where morality, courage and sense of justice collide with selfishness, greed and cowardice. Sometimes inaction is cowardice in itself, and sometimes the hard/bad choices need to be made for the good of others. That is also why Batman is classified as a vigilante by Arkham City.
Empathy for the villain is not the sign of a bad person, it's the sign of decent writing, if I feel for the villain I'm conflicted and forced to address the issues within said world
@asurasyn That's a great one. My personal favorite quote from Kingpin is, " This city doesn't deserve a better tomorrow! It deserves to drown in its filth! It deserves people like my father! People like you!"
Exactly. Half of these were straight garbage with no redeeming qualities at all. The majority of the other half was nihilistic bias, and I’m saying this as a person who tends to be pessimistic myself.
Things like "You have to be willing to do whatever it takes to seize your moment". I mean it's well to be prepared to seize a good opportunity, but plenty of people became succesful without any evil "whatever it takes". De La Cruz specifically would probably have been plenty succesful continuing his career with his friend as his songwriter but not active stage partner. He could have had everything he was ready to murder his friend for by just having an honest chat with his friend about how to keep both their futures in music going using each of their skills to complement each other. Would his fame have been any less for being public about greatly appreciating his close friend the songwriter?
Has everyone ever noticed that most villains have in the past either been treating badly, lied to, cheated or in some kind of way gone through a traumatic life before they find them selves where they are.
Some of us are born as predators, while the rest of us are born as prey. Until that one small guy in the back of the corner finally says it has enough.
@@TheBlackPlatoon757 All parents in the world feed off the positive energy of their children and make them miserable. All parents are energy vampires. Always question the authority of your parents, and be an independent rebel.
@@TheBlackPlatoon757 Then never return. I will always question my parents if it is necessary. I don't love my parents anymore, and I don't trust them anymore. Parents do not deserve love. When I'm legally an adult, I will marry a beautiful woman and move to somewhere else so I wouldn't live in my parents' house anymore.
It works in the short term for sure. But eventually that fear will turn to rage and then suddenly you’re running to kill the thing you fear, rather than cower.
That's how war works,ends up turning into. Fear the bigger system,fear enough to grow hatred,enough hatred turns into rage,rage makes us yarn and lust for murder. Then,we become the very thing,the bigger system@@WanderingShogun3142
She was wrong, actually. Fear _is_ a powerful motivator, but like Hopper said, the second those you are intimidating realize they outnumber you, you’re cooked. Because now their fear has turned to rage, and there is no love or mercy from an enraged mob.
The Joker's interrogation speech is probably my favorite excerpt of dialog from any movie of the 21st century, it weighs both on the vision of the Joker's intentions and also on the very real circumstances of our very real world.
"A villain and a hero is not so different" Correct. In conflict, there's no good or bad. There are only those who are left. And it's better to be the one who wins.
@@SeanSeg that begs the question; what DOES one choose to destroy? An immoral character? A person with opposing ideals and beliefs? Rarely do people in stories think of themselves as "the other guy", it's always shown that what you perceive to be correct MUST be preserved, and anything else destroyed. That's why humanised villains are often liked, because "the other guy" in this case is shown to be something that's almost exactly like the hero.
@@tjjordan4207 If you know you're fighting for what is objectively good, would you flinch away from doing what is necessary to win just because your adversaries tell you that what you do is evil by their standards?
@Moloch_the_MAP yes ! Glory to north korea (everything about north korea is western Propaganda and lies and that's whyvthe DPRK Has a lot of supporters)
I love the editing. It truly showcases how the editor gradually synchronizing with the villain's speech, altering their perception of humanity's darkness.
@@irfanjames6551 A villain wants to tear down what they see as "broken," but that leaves a wide open gap. It will be replaced by something, and the villain doesn't think afar enough ahead to take that into account.
It actually pains me that I’ve had to resort to quoting homelander to keep the whiny and self absorbed I deal with regularly in line. One thing I’ve noticed is heroes don’t really fight to save the world but to protect the same old status quo cos they can’t accept change
Some say that everyone is the hero of their own story, and then there's this numbnuts who is a wannabe villain without all the charisma. Hot damn what an L
TBH Homelandser in the show is a tragic hero, the show runners pulled too many punches. Not one person tries to negotiate with him as if he were a rational being. He’s an actual villain in the comics.
@@wastelandgames9409 no that's called a revolutionnary. a hero is someone accomplishing good in that system, Batman is a hero because he chose to do good thing even tho he accept that the world is imperfect Joker is the vilain because he choose to be bad because the world is also bad
You know what's insane about the Joker movie? People were actually trying to tear it down for being an "Incel" movie but it wasn't even remotely close to being that. You don't have to agree with the actions he took in order to understand what he means during his speech on the talk show. Almost everything he said (key word being almost) is absolutely true. Not objective, subjective, or whatever the fuck else you want to say. It's not just his truth it's ALL of our truths. Think about how pissed off you get when people with a higher station do shitty things and treat you like nothing. Think about what you think about doing to them. Also in his first quote he's talking about the common man and how our beliefs and way of life are enough for us to try and rip each others throats out both literally and figuratively. When you do that you don't think about what it's like to be the other guy (or whatever you are). You just look at things in black and white, even if you harp on not doing so as a false sense of "enlightenment", and expect people to either be good for understanding or agree with you, or a less than good, enough so to label them an enemy when they disagree. He doesn't say it in so many words but it's as simple as that. What I just described is how people lack empathy for each other, and end up treating Arthur (Joker) and people like him (or even not like him) in such a horrible way that they eventually snap. Suicide, murder, rape, you name it. I'm sure I'll get push back for that last one but I don't assume that those three examples I gave are limited to what I'm talking about, but still don't think they are exempt from being the result of people giving up on trying to be decent human beings because of how they are treated, and just deciding to take matters into their own hands. Oh and quite frankly, it is enough to make anybody crazy. Whether it takes root the way it did for the Joker, or if it takes root in those that ignore reality and bumble through life thinking the way things are is okay.
If you’ll watch closely, “people” (which are usually the influential and their online posses of followers) frequently rip into such media regardless of what form it takes. The powerful and wealthy know what kind of world they want, and they’ll do whatever they can to ensure those of us who aren’t on their leashes yet remain dormant and apathetic, unaware of the pot slowly coming to a boil around us.
The whole "the Joker is an incel" but came.from the media, who was so high off of their own narrative at the time, especially in US politics, that they were terrified of having empathy for the other side. There's also the message that the media, even late night comedy shows, are just as responsible as politicians themselves when it comes to radicalization.
Cool video, had a lot of fun revisiting great movie quotes from classics! However, let's not pretend most of these villains aren't pure evil. Yes, they were dealt a bad hand, but the most inspiring stories are of those who were dealt that bad hand and made the best with it. Some of these quotes described our reality in a brutal and honest way, but most villains insert their motives and intentions in these otherwise truthful statements. Don't be fooled by the underlying falacies into worshiping villains. These villains weren't completely right (hell, some were completely wrong), but the dialogues they portrait make it seem like they are! That's not only fantastic writing by those who worked on these movies/series, but also a great demonstration of how easy it is to fool the masses by saying what they want to hear!
Completely agree. We have to remember that it's not just the villains that experience trauma which pushed them to do evil. Often times, heroes go through the same. A son of an alcoholic and abusive father can either turn into someone like his father, or someone completely opposite. Same circumstance, different outcomes. And both would say the same thing, "I am who I am because of my father".
“Rick, it ain't like it was before! Now if y'all want to live, if you want to survive, you got to fight for it! I'm talking about fighting right here, right now!” -Shane Walsh
Another green goblin quote I think about that really would've helped the overall narrative of this is paraphrased from Spider-Man 1: "The one thing [ people ] love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall...die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you. Why bother?"
A lot of villains turn out to be whiny babies blaming the world for their decisions, like they lack autonomy. I love the ones who just say screw it and do evil things lol. No excuses or trying to rationalize your actions.
So many of your examples help to show something fundamental between a hero and a villain. Selfishness, or being self centered in their world view. The world is cruel and dark, submitting and taking that path to be like that is what makes a villian, not just a bad person. In a vast majority of these examples these people are using justifications. The things they tell themselves to make themselves feel better about what they are doing. From most dictators to plenty of serial killers you'll find twisted justifications for their actions, usually the sacrifice of others voluntary or otherwise, for their goals. Villians are the morter and brick that built this cruel world, some are just trying to change the architecture, but the building will be the same.
The sun still shines everyday...with that, chance is rolled anew and your choice is refreshed. To always find a way to be the best you you can be... that is the joy of life. The adventure of everyday to find a way to live a better life and help as many to do the same as possible. To honestly laugh and to make another do the same is the definition of a successful day.
Syndromes plan would have worked if he simply started selling his stuff instead of spending decades on a single murder bot. Funny thing is, he would have rehabitaled supers since they would be normal then.
I think its important to add that A) while most of the statements may be correct it does not justify all the actions of a "villain". B) just because humans have not been perfect in the past does not mean we can't strive to be in the future
Villains might have been treated badly by a system of anything similar but like the famous joker line ' like madness as you know, it's like gravity, all of takes is a little push ' or ' all it takes one bad day '
agreed my friend
My own powers did not bring resurrection, it was greed‥ the greed of men summoned me back & the justice not define the mighty. The truth is that humanity desires burgeoning desires within them, which leads them to submit to their religious creeds, yes? You say that mere power is not what leads mankind but respect & generosity, that your claim that those things is that what's truly guide humanity⁈… Prosperous!
⁓ Dracula Vlad Tepes from Castlevania, Symphony of the Night
One bad life would do it
Yeah..@@damienchall8297
Can make the strongest ones snap in two
“No one thinks about what it’s like to be the other guy” that’s deep
agreed
Yeah, that's human history in a nutshell
not deep at all, just like you. ya like 8.
too basic just face it world cruel and you taste it in the air as one puts on knuckle klucksters while another tries to fight fair by standers stare in the end its a story that goes around with out care as a solution doesnt exists in this atompshere
@@g00bgt62 a solution does exist but most people will choose their personal interest over it
Hopper also gets another one.
“First rule of leadership; *everything* is your fault.”
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Learned that one the hard way...
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@@frankdeleon4209 HARDCORE TO THE MEGA.
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The clip of Tai Lung made me realize that Tai Lung wasn’t actually mad that he didn’t become the Dragon Warrior, he was mad that Shifu didn’t even bother to defend him after all the sacrifice Tai Lung made.
Exactly
The only reason he's mad is because he spent his whole life training or a purpose which then he was cast aside for. It is such an insane thing to punish someone for
Yeah but regarding the Kung Fu Panda films, they would be perfect if it weren't for one flaw. The villains motives. The films don't actually show why the villains became villains, just that they did.
@@robert.mcdonaldthey did tho
@@mubeenplayz5246 Not really. Can you explain why Oogway saw darkness in Tai Lung? Why Shen started using fireworks as weaponry or why Kai started using chi for nefarious means?
“You want society to accept you, but you can’t even accept yourself” that line applies to a lot of people
Magneto is always right
Pedophiles?
@@sallyknox1471 referring to the LGBTQ community
@@aussiefitnessboi2626 then choke?
@@brambletalon230 I’m confused, are you telling me to go choke, or telling me what you do to guys?
As children, we loved heroes. As adults, we understand villains.
deep bro..
Agreed
Or we just became then. (Tate fans)
Truth, life gets to you sometimes.
we also see how flawed the "heroes" are, how easily they could fix everything if they wanted too, and how they cling on to power that is not theirs to hold.. honestly the only super hero worth a damn is spiderman, everyone else is either an evil weapon dealer hugging technology advanced enough to save the world, all so they can look flashhy and be seen as heroes; or they got so much power it's a joke there is any crime in the world besides the occasssional world ending stuff ^^
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OG villain quote😭
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Truth, it's all we can ever ask for nowadays, lol.
It's a great quote, but I wouldn't say he was in the right there.
“You strive for your justice…”
“AND I STRIVE FOR MINE…”
hehe
@@Bl4deFN ew dubs
"If you are good at something, never do it for free." That one always stayed with me.
That line, as an artist, should be my response when someone asks why I charge for my craft.
@@Tank50usyour charging for your labor dude.
Thanks to our joker❤❤
Villains aren't those who choose bad, they simply play by a bad system they perceive as necessary.
Agreed 💙
disagree, it is always a choice, at the end of the day. villains and heroes have the same backstory - pain, difference is what they choose to do about it. Villain says "the world hurt me, i will hurt it back" and the hero says "the world hurt me, im not gonna let it hurt anybody else". Heroes use pain, villains are used by it.
Villains are exactly those who choose bad. If there is right and wrong then there is a choice.
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"What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with society that abandons him and treats him like trash?! You get what you fucking deserved." I love that line
same
Sounds like entitlement and selfishness
@@insultlkMaybe to a blind NPC who believes the good in all laws and regulations without questioning lol.
@the1truegabrieldwilliams275 Nah bro he's a narcissist
@@insultlk I wonder what the source was that caused him to become one then lol.
Honestly Syndrome's biggest mistake was just unleashing his massive bot in the city. He straight up could have just left the Incredibles there, sold his gadgets, and that would've been that. It's not like he's selling his tech illegally. What would the Incredibles even do at that point? They couldn't legally arrest him, he's operating in international waters.
He wanted to be loved by the people as a hero that saved the day.
problem is his obsession got in the way
He had to stop the unstoppable to prove his tech could be worth something
Syndrome killed over a dozen Superheroes with his bots; he could easily be extradited to the states on multiple counts of homicide.
@@cordthethird I forgot he literally kidnapped a bunch of heroes to test his bot on. I suppose the Incredibles would have had to prove that. If he's smart, he'll make it so they never can, and then just laugh as he rolls around in his endlessly growing pile of money.
That final quote actually reminded me of a counter-quote that - in a lot of circumstances - actually shows the true motives of the villain's professed ideals.
"The world you're speaking of will be kinder and gentler only for you!" - Lelouch vi Britannia, Code Geass.
People that profess their desire to change the world for the benefit of all... they often times only really mean themselves, because they think everyone else is just like them.
This is such a good statement. People will hear villains speak and think that they’re maybe not all that wrong, because every villain that ever plays on a major stage (fictional or not) is a very intelligent individual with some ability to grasp truth. However those people miss the catch: villains are villainous because they found truth and then twisted it to better suit themselves. It just sounds plausible now because it’s coming to your ears from someone smart enough to hide the clever twists they put into that truth.
I mean, that's one of the foundations of being a "villain", isn't it? "My ideals matter more than everyone else". Said ideals may be in favor to the villain's own people, friends, loved ones, finding justice for past transgressions, etc. But in securing them, he forsakes everyone else.
It honestly makes more sense to prioritize your own and live in your own victory than to save everyone else and die in the process.
I love that show. Amazing writing to the point where there are many times you question if Lelouch has let himself become the villain.
Ofc, that’s why they are the villains
You should offer a grad course 3:20
"Everyone is the hero of their own story"- Handsome Jack
"if the rule you followed brought you here, of what use was that rule" Anton Chigurh
lines I think about more than I should
Handsome Jack was the real one. Rhys and friends invaded pandora
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." So often, the "best" and most relatable villains are the ones you understand, even sympathize with, because they believe what they're doing is right and just. Evil for evil's sake so rarely exists.
Now if this world treat us like this why should we still need to follow the rules. Rules are for the weak to obey it, while the strong change it and embrace as a weapon against the poors. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.
"let the past die. Kill it, if you have to. That's the only way to become what you are meant to be" this hit deep on a lot of levels
Its one of the only good moments in an otherwise completely garbage trilogy. Adam Driver carried that as hard as he could.
"Of all the galaxies I've travelled you species are the same, you think you are the center of the universe, you have no idea", this hits different
“My boy, there might be a hundred things in the home that need to be fixed, but that doesn’t justify burning it to the ground.”
©️Coriolanus Snow ❄️
Truth, one of my favorite villains ever put to screen.
6:14 "I'm not a bad person, just had a bad luck" .... I truly feel sad for sandman😢
3:49 Tai lung is one my most favorite villians. Mainly because I can relate to him Tai lung became how is out of love wanting to make shifu proud everything he did he did for his father approval and praise. He was so blinded by wanting to be the best and shifu praise he didn’t see own growing darkness.
agreed
Tai long is one of the greatest villains of all time because of these reasons
Plus that he's right, Shifu raised him specifically to be the Dragon Warrior and spent all his life telling him he was destined for it, but when Oogway said no, Shifu just went "well, he said no, i guess we move on" while Tai Lung is left there thinking ".......so i broke my body training for so many years.....for nothing?"
@@AzureRoxe They broke his soul not his spirit
never forget who you truly are
@@AzureRoxeThe whole point is that he isn't right though. I know everyone wants to go with the whole "oh my God, he wasn't given everything he wanted" logic to justify his actions, but you lot seem to forget that part of Chinese culture is literally being able to accept loss, and be humble about it. What do you think would've happened the first time someone refused to accept him as the actual Dragon Warrior when he undoubtedly throws the title around as though he's owed something? They're probably not walking away from it.
2 face was actually right when he said that the only morality in a cruel world is chance unbiased unprejudiced fair
Facts
Absolute bullshit, chance is completely amoral, that’s the point. Murder doesn’t become right because you flipped heads.
I mean you can also actively choose to make it a bit more fair and a bit less cruel every time you get the opportunity to choose.
@@Hust91 except that you don’t get to choose it’s chosen for you
@@abemeyers5009 Most things are chosen for you, but you do occasionally get to make a choice. Usually in how you treat others and how you meet the world, especially when you find yourself in any position of responsibility.
Thats the thing about about villains, they always make an interesting point...right before making the worst possible choice
But that's just your decision to label their choice as bad
@@therandomcommenter6629Because most people see their actual, literal crimes for what they are. For every "society forced me to be bad" type of line spouted, there's usually a dozen innocent men, and women who could've been willing to implement actual positive change that were mindlessly cut down.
@@therobustempyrean1436 Its all based on perspective, we see it as bad. They see it as fighting for what they see as right. "You strive for your justice, I strive for mine"
@@YourLightning28 just because some people playing god, doesn't mean they're God. We think we know everything, but the truth is but we don't know anything. Villains are people who gave up to humanity, and nothing more dangerous than human with no humanity. Only destruction.
@YourLightning28
Unless it's a pure evil villain with complete cognitive function that does it because it's fun.
You KNOW it's over when you start identifying with the villians
A well written compelling villain always has some relatability.
But they aren't quite right.
The joker misjudges people. And loses.
Syndrome takes _everything_ personally. Even when there's other factors occupying Mr. Incredible.
Josh Brolin himself said that Thanos's main problem is callousness. He has a big enough lever to move the world, so he's gonna prove himself _right._
Other Joker is literally delusional, and his decision to assert himself only leads to less control over his world.
Veidt was wrong. Nuclear war wasn't inevitable. The Sovier Union fell.
Voldemort wants a lever, like Thanos. But unlike Thanos he doesn't have anything to use it on, so he keeps trying to get bigger and bigger levers.
Et cetera. However, Tai Lung is completely right. Oogway made a weapon, not a man.
A real hero CAN identify with the villain.
Someone who can't identify with the villain is likely too naive to fix the problems the villain is targeting.
Someone who CAN identify with the villain has the ability to help fix what made them the way they are.
Its not even about identifying as a villain, its about understanding(not agreeing with) their motives. Many think of them as just evil, when they have their own "justified" reasons for doing what they do. Whether its right or wrong is up to you to decide and thats where morality, courage and sense of justice collide with selfishness, greed and cowardice. Sometimes inaction is cowardice in itself, and sometimes the hard/bad choices need to be made for the good of others. That is also why Batman is classified as a vigilante by Arkham City.
Empathy for the villain is not the sign of a bad person, it's the sign of decent writing, if I feel for the villain I'm conflicted and forced to address the issues within said world
_"I am the rocks on the eternal shore. Crash into me and be broken. I am not malevolent. I just am!"_ - Apocalypse, 90s X-Men
But overtime water cuts the rocks
@@aysiskyle9458 Don't question Apocalypse!
Ahhh, Pocy... 🥰
@@NarwahlGaming 😄😄😉
" No one knows what it's like to be the bad man , to be the sad man...no one knows what it's like to be hated, to be jaded...."
One of my favorite villains of all time is Kingpin from the Daredevil series.
"I am not the Samaritan. I am not the priest, or the levite. I am the ill intent set upon a traveler on a road he should not have been on! "
@asurasyn That's a great one. My personal favorite quote from Kingpin is, " This city doesn't deserve a better tomorrow! It deserves to drown in its filth! It deserves people like my father! People like you!"
''its only after we lose everything, we are free to do anything''-Tyler Durden
this dude is on his villian arc
yas
Only SOME of these are actually "right" .. and even among those, fewer still are not hypocritical about their "beliefs"
Correct. Like seriously? Wizard Hitler trying to justify his genocide is 'right? Nah, bro.
Exactly. Half of these were straight garbage with no redeeming qualities at all. The majority of the other half was nihilistic bias, and I’m saying this as a person who tends to be pessimistic myself.
Which ones are the right ones?
I'm pretty sure they just have it in the title because it looks better for the title
Things like "You have to be willing to do whatever it takes to seize your moment".
I mean it's well to be prepared to seize a good opportunity, but plenty of people became succesful without any evil "whatever it takes".
De La Cruz specifically would probably have been plenty succesful continuing his career with his friend as his songwriter but not active stage partner. He could have had everything he was ready to murder his friend for by just having an honest chat with his friend about how to keep both their futures in music going using each of their skills to complement each other. Would his fame have been any less for being public about greatly appreciating his close friend the songwriter?
Has everyone ever noticed that most villains have in the past either been treating badly, lied to, cheated or in some kind of way gone through a traumatic life before they find them selves where they are.
Of course, because so have the hero's. The difference is not circumstances, it's moral integrity. Hero's have it, villains lack it.
beside Jack Horner
And none of that justifies what they do, or their philosophy. Trauma doesn't give you a pass to hurt others.
Thats the difference between heros and villains, one chooses to be consumed by it and the other rises above.
@@calvinwarlick8533it’s perspective
Some of us are born as predators, while the rest of us are born as prey. Until that one small guy in the back of the corner finally says it has enough.
🎵 All the other kids…. 🎵
with the pumped up kicks@@joshuamorales1095
There can only be so many winners
like us
#antinatalism
@@relskull3324 I love seeing more of antinatalism here as well, lol.
The difference between hope and despair, good and evil, is a different way of telling stories from the same facts.
Every page in a book has 2 sides. Even if 1 or both of them are empty.
No Master Mold from the old X man cartoon?
"Mutants are humans, there for humanity must be protected form itself"
The dark knight joker quote, really was true during the entirety of covid
I feel like it's still true, we're being pushed again.
Morality is a choice, even in a cruel world.
Especially in a cruel world.
Morality is just a choice. That's it. Nothing cruel about it.
Many take advantage of the good, the generous. They try to control you for their own benefit and when you no longer serve them, they just discard you.
Parents in a fucking nutshell when their kids are young adults with a lack of positive energy they fed off of their children.
@@TheBlackPlatoon757 All parents in the world feed off the positive energy of their children and make them miserable. All parents are energy vampires. Always question the authority of your parents, and be an independent rebel.
@adeleinetheartist8267 I already was and don't plan on visiting them anyways.
@@TheBlackPlatoon757 Then never return. I will always question my parents if it is necessary. I don't love my parents anymore, and I don't trust them anymore. Parents do not deserve love. When I'm legally an adult, I will marry a beautiful woman and move to somewhere else so I wouldn't live in my parents' house anymore.
@@adeleinetheartist8267 To be honest, I had those same thoughts.
John Kramer speaks the truth
Mayor Bellwether wasn't wrong when she said "fear always works"
It works in the short term for sure. But eventually that fear will turn to rage and then suddenly you’re running to kill the thing you fear, rather than cower.
That's how war works,ends up turning into. Fear the bigger system,fear enough to grow hatred,enough hatred turns into rage,rage makes us yarn and lust for murder. Then,we become the very thing,the bigger system@@WanderingShogun3142
She was wrong, actually. Fear _is_ a powerful motivator, but like Hopper said, the second those you are intimidating realize they outnumber you, you’re cooked. Because now their fear has turned to rage, and there is no love or mercy from an enraged mob.
"a villain is just somebody who has a story you haven't heard of yet"
Darkness doesn't need light to exist, shadow does.
Thanos was the only one with a plan in the MCU anyways
To start over before the new phases........
And he could also create infinite resources so?
The Joker's interrogation speech is probably my favorite excerpt of dialog from any movie of the 21st century, it weighs both on the vision of the Joker's intentions and also on the very real circumstances of our very real world.
"A villain and a hero is not so different"
Correct. In conflict, there's no good or bad. There are only those who are left.
And it's better to be the one who wins.
Yes, but if you have to become what you chose to destroy then you didn't actually change anything.
@@SeanSeg that begs the question; what DOES one choose to destroy? An immoral character? A person with opposing ideals and beliefs?
Rarely do people in stories think of themselves as "the other guy", it's always shown that what you perceive to be correct MUST be preserved, and anything else destroyed. That's why humanised villains are often liked, because "the other guy" in this case is shown to be something that's almost exactly like the hero.
The thing is, there is good and evil in this world. And the greatest trick evil can do is convince you that both don’t exist.
@@tjjordan4207 If you know you're fighting for what is objectively good, would you flinch away from doing what is necessary to win just because your adversaries tell you that what you do is evil by their standards?
Sweet spiral you guys included jigsaw. Thank you! I thought I'd have to wait the whole video to hear his voice in this, if at all!
No problem 😁
Moral of story : Evil is not born , Its Made 😮
Nah. Evil is relative.
Some are made, others are born.
@waddjantachi not really in general its made only a rare case is it born.
@DeadInside-ew8qb you don't know anything about evil then
@Moloch_the_MAP yes ! Glory to north korea (everything about north korea is western Propaganda and lies and that's whyvthe DPRK Has a lot of supporters)
I love the editing. It truly showcases how the editor gradually synchronizing with the villain's speech, altering their perception of humanity's darkness.
What have we learned from these badass villains? Is to never trust anyone
Never trust anyone, just pretend it
“Confidence? A fool's substitute for intelligence.”
-Dr Robotnik
I thought this would be a clipshow, but your narration really pulled it together, much better video than I was expecting
Part 2: The entire Code Geass.
agreed
Dude, that Kevin Spacey Grasshopper was lit 😂
A villain will proudly proclaim his desire to tear down an unjust system but will have zero regard to what could spring up in its absence.
Zero Regard for what??
I didn't get the 2nd part.
@@irfanjames6551 A villain wants to tear down what they see as "broken," but that leaves a wide open gap. It will be replaced by something, and the villain doesn't think afar enough ahead to take that into account.
This is a lesson in empathy. Regardless, just because the world is evil does not mean you should do evil
It actually pains me that I’ve had to resort to quoting homelander to keep the whiny and self absorbed I deal with regularly in line. One thing I’ve noticed is heroes don’t really fight to save the world but to protect the same old status quo cos they can’t accept change
Those aren't heroes. Those are defenders of the status qo true heroes fight evil and injustice in the name of change and a better tomorrow
Some say that everyone is the hero of their own story, and then there's this numbnuts who is a wannabe villain without all the charisma. Hot damn what an L
TBH Homelandser in the show is a tragic hero, the show runners pulled too many punches. Not one person tries to negotiate with him as if he were a rational being.
He’s an actual villain in the comics.
@@wastelandgames9409 no that's called a revolutionnary.
a hero is someone accomplishing good in that system,
Batman is a hero because he chose to do good thing even tho he accept that the world is imperfect
Joker is the vilain because he choose to be bad because the world is also bad
@@IRMentatIf you have seen half the horrible shit he did...
Im not sure if negotiation would work
heroes are what humans wish the world was like, villains are the truth
LOVE that you put Russell Crowe in Unhinged in here, and he's right!!
YEAH
This is a wonderful, and thought provoking video. thank you for sharing it.
Not enough of these villains are actually "right."
I disagree. There all made evil 😈 so there all right
*Yawn.*
There is a difference between a villain and an asshole, i like how this video reinforces that lesson
Lil bro is out here tryna defend Homelander 😂😂
You know what's insane about the Joker movie? People were actually trying to tear it down for being an "Incel" movie but it wasn't even remotely close to being that. You don't have to agree with the actions he took in order to understand what he means during his speech on the talk show. Almost everything he said (key word being almost) is absolutely true. Not objective, subjective, or whatever the fuck else you want to say. It's not just his truth it's ALL of our truths. Think about how pissed off you get when people with a higher station do shitty things and treat you like nothing. Think about what you think about doing to them. Also in his first quote he's talking about the common man and how our beliefs and way of life are enough for us to try and rip each others throats out both literally and figuratively. When you do that you don't think about what it's like to be the other guy (or whatever you are). You just look at things in black and white, even if you harp on not doing so as a false sense of "enlightenment", and expect people to either be good for understanding or agree with you, or a less than good, enough so to label them an enemy when they disagree. He doesn't say it in so many words but it's as simple as that. What I just described is how people lack empathy for each other, and end up treating Arthur (Joker) and people like him (or even not like him) in such a horrible way that they eventually snap. Suicide, murder, rape, you name it. I'm sure I'll get push back for that last one but I don't assume that those three examples I gave are limited to what I'm talking about, but still don't think they are exempt from being the result of people giving up on trying to be decent human beings because of how they are treated, and just deciding to take matters into their own hands. Oh and quite frankly, it is enough to make anybody crazy. Whether it takes root the way it did for the Joker, or if it takes root in those that ignore reality and bumble through life thinking the way things are is okay.
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If you’ll watch closely, “people” (which are usually the influential and their online posses of followers) frequently rip into such media regardless of what form it takes. The powerful and wealthy know what kind of world they want, and they’ll do whatever they can to ensure those of us who aren’t on their leashes yet remain dormant and apathetic, unaware of the pot slowly coming to a boil around us.
Truth! 💯
The whole "the Joker is an incel" but came.from the media, who was so high off of their own narrative at the time, especially in US politics, that they were terrified of having empathy for the other side. There's also the message that the media, even late night comedy shows, are just as responsible as politicians themselves when it comes to radicalization.
This is why America is collapsing into a war
"There is no good or evil, there is only weigth and those too weak to lift it" Swoldemort
Cool video, had a lot of fun revisiting great movie quotes from classics! However, let's not pretend most of these villains aren't pure evil. Yes, they were dealt a bad hand, but the most inspiring stories are of those who were dealt that bad hand and made the best with it. Some of these quotes described our reality in a brutal and honest way, but most villains insert their motives and intentions in these otherwise truthful statements. Don't be fooled by the underlying falacies into worshiping villains. These villains weren't completely right (hell, some were completely wrong), but the dialogues they portrait make it seem like they are! That's not only fantastic writing by those who worked on these movies/series, but also a great demonstration of how easy it is to fool the masses by saying what they want to hear!
Completely agree. We have to remember that it's not just the villains that experience trauma which pushed them to do evil. Often times, heroes go through the same. A son of an alcoholic and abusive father can either turn into someone like his father, or someone completely opposite. Same circumstance, different outcomes. And both would say the same thing, "I am who I am because of my father".
The movie NEFARIOUS (2023) NEEDS TO BE APART OF THIS COMPILATION
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO SORRY I FORGOT IT :(
@PixelTheFox5687 that movie goes deep, and because of that, they took it out theaters its 2nd week of release
The script for Heath Ledgers Joker was so on point it's scary
Oh My Goodness, Great Work... Thank you for taking the time to do this... Arranged Perfectly.
Great video!
I would have love to see the scarface restaurant scene in here. "So say goodnight to the bad guy" - Tony Montana
I would agree with your first choice that u went with if it wasn’t from the live action remake
True true
“Rick, it ain't like it was before! Now if y'all want to live, if you want to survive, you got to fight for it! I'm talking about fighting right here, right now!”
-Shane Walsh
"I'm not a bad person, just had bad luck" for some reason that hit hard.
y'know, when you see this, it's honestly refreshing to be able to clearly see two sides.
That's the reason why i like villains
then the heroes
They are the true heroes there just so traumatized😔
Thank you these are amazing!
IKR! Villans are so underated they are poatrated as just pure evil but if you look in there at the end of the day were all people
You did good making this video. Really good.
Love this video used it once as my stream bg
Little villain quote i thought of
"The world is what you make of it, it's also what you take from it. "
"Ah ah ah, first rule of leadership; EVERYTHING is YOUR fault."
shit made me lowkey cry tf.... well done video bro
"If you're good at something, never do it for FREE"
This right here is a gem.
1:58 Shere Khan sound exactly like Idris Elba, but IMDB list Benedict Cumberbatch as the voice-actor!
Amazing!
It is Idris Elba. This is from The Jungle Book movie, Benedict Cumberbatch voiced Shere Khan in Mowgli, which is a different movie.
@@sambhatti805 THANK YOU!!!
Now I can trust my ears again. ❤
glad I could help, brother.@@guyfrom07
Another green goblin quote I think about that really would've helped the overall narrative of this is paraphrased from Spider-Man 1:
"The one thing [ people ] love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall...die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you. Why bother?"
“When everyone is super…..no one will be” . This was always my favourite line from Incredibles.
thank you my good man I've reached a new level of existential dread :D
The one thing that I've come to realize is:: As kids you cheer for the heroes and as you mature you understand the villains.
A lot of villains turn out to be whiny babies blaming the world for their decisions, like they lack autonomy. I love the ones who just say screw it and do evil things lol. No excuses or trying to rationalize your actions.
@@MachinaOwl The only villains that I salute are the ones that are trying to prove a point.
This is so awesome the greatest things incredible
Ikr!
So many of your examples help to show something fundamental between a hero and a villain. Selfishness, or being self centered in their world view. The world is cruel and dark, submitting and taking that path to be like that is what makes a villian, not just a bad person. In a vast majority of these examples these people are using justifications. The things they tell themselves to make themselves feel better about what they are doing. From most dictators to plenty of serial killers you'll find twisted justifications for their actions, usually the sacrifice of others voluntary or otherwise, for their goals. Villians are the morter and brick that built this cruel world, some are just trying to change the architecture, but the building will be the same.
The sun still shines everyday...with that, chance is rolled anew and your choice is refreshed. To always find a way to be the best you you can be... that is the joy of life. The adventure of everyday to find a way to live a better life and help as many to do the same as possible. To honestly laugh and to make another do the same is the definition of a successful day.
Thank you for the swear warning.
Remember kids: Just because what they say is right doesn't make their actions any less fucked up.
Quite humbled by this video, thanks to the editor ❤
"No, I know I should say yes. That I'd do it all again. But somewhere along the way… the answer became 'No'." - Taylor Hebert
Syndromes plan would have worked if he simply started selling his stuff instead of spending decades on a single murder bot.
Funny thing is, he would have rehabitaled supers since they would be normal then.
Can you do an anime version of this? I think that those quotes are deep.
of corse!
The hopper scene is basically employers to the employees and the customers that pay for their products.
Joker: "Nobody's civil anymore"
Also Joker 1 minute later: shoots a man in the head
Love the scene from Casa De Papel.
Agreed!
We're all a villain in someone elses story.
This must have taken so much time and effort. Amazing!❤❤❤❤
Thank you! you deserve a follow
I think its important to add that A) while most of the statements may be correct it does not justify all the actions of a "villain". B) just because humans have not been perfect in the past does not mean we can't strive to be in the future