1.6 Deconversion: Personal Relationship (A)

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @EtienneAelian
    @EtienneAelian 10 лет назад +74

    Man this series is insanely good, the voice, the music, it's perfect.

    • @robercoli6136
      @robercoli6136 3 года назад +3

      Yes. I watch it once a year and use Chris's arguments when defending my own atheism (I am also a former believer)

  • @elizabethc.6478
    @elizabethc.6478 9 лет назад +24

    In a nutshell, this is exactly what i went through in becoming an atheist. Powerful, and thank you for taking the time to make the series.

  • @TheraminTrees
    @TheraminTrees 15 лет назад +11

    This series is a thing of beauty - on every level. A wonderful new year to you Evid3nc3 ;8)

    • @lowlowseesee
      @lowlowseesee Год назад +1

      oh wow the man himself in here long ago

  • @JoelJoel321
    @JoelJoel321 11 лет назад +41

    18 months after my deconversion. It strikes me just so how closely you and I had similar experiences. This ministry to atheists particularly.

  • @pierre0095
    @pierre0095 9 лет назад +20

    Thank you for doing this meaningful work, and sharing your story in such a beautiful, creative way.

  • @hermioneziggeraut7617
    @hermioneziggeraut7617 10 лет назад +12

    It's wonderful to have this process explored in such a deep and nuanced way. A sort of mathematical dissection of deconversion. Fascinating!

  • @anon9579
    @anon9579 8 лет назад +30

    This should be written into an autobiography

  • @HeyDuffy459
    @HeyDuffy459 15 лет назад +1

    On the plus side, you know that the authoritative internal voice is you. My most inspiring moment after my deconversion was the realization that the inspiring internal voice was simply myself all along.
    Thanks for these vids! They are top notch!

  • @Geekonamotorcycle
    @Geekonamotorcycle 13 лет назад +5

    Fantastic work. My migration from fundamentalism theism to atheism happened over many years and I had never thought to document them so elegantly. Thank you for doing this.

  • @hybridamerica
    @hybridamerica 10 лет назад +9

    You should write all this - word for word in a book.
    I would be a the top of the list to purchase it.

  • @tifiang
    @tifiang 15 лет назад

    Wow - I could actually feel the sense of loss and desperation that you described as you started to feel your faith slip away. Absolutely one of the best video series on RUclips. Thank you for making these.

  • @memoryhero
    @memoryhero 15 лет назад

    Best Series going on RUclips. No strawmen, no rants, no condescension, just facts, and a story that almost breaks your heart no matter what side of things you think you're on. Impeccable on all accounts. Nothing but support!

  • @BrotherOfTheD
    @BrotherOfTheD 11 лет назад

    This whole series is intense. I haven't watched all of them yet, I think I may need to stretch that out over a few months. However, this has made me seriously think about the way I talk to people of faith. My own conversion was very quick and painless. As it was when I was a child, I think I may possibly have just not been that invested in faith at all. Watching this makes me realise what torment people of genuine faith go through as they lose it. Very well done sir.

  • @Icemario87
    @Icemario87 13 лет назад

    That feeling you describe toward the end of the video is exactly what compelled me to continue pursuing information until I was completely devoid of faith.

  • @Evid3nc3
    @Evid3nc3  15 лет назад +3

    That is precisely the lesson I learned, though I didn't have time to go into it in the video. Glad you were able to read it in between the lines :)

  • @vinzbrain
    @vinzbrain 12 лет назад +1

    i am going to leave a more thought through comment at the end of the series, but I really feel like I want to leave some quick feedback now. This has thus far been one of the most beautiful series of short videos I have ever seen, for so many reasons that it would take me too long to list and I shall leave it for the end. Thank you for taking the time to document your personal change in such a profound and beautiful way and share it with us..

  • @HassanAlHajry
    @HassanAlHajry 13 лет назад +8

    that was very interesting video i do understand it's a Deconversion video after all but you seems that not only you believed in Christianity before but everything you saw was through a Christian point of view and to the point where you actually tried to share your view to make others believe in it too, Seems like you were not only a Christian but a very deep in Christianity, i do not know how some people here even question that you were not a true Christian or not saved according to them.

  • @FlightIsLife
    @FlightIsLife 15 лет назад

    Its initially saddening to hear such a detailed and honest relation of a journey from childhood into adulthood, growing pains and all. I dont say that as an analogy either, for it truly is a journey from the mind of a child to that of an adult, from a world of fantasy and imagination to the infinitely greater wonders of reality. Again, thank you for sharing this with all of us, this remains one of the best series on youtube without any question in my mind.

  • @philipjameskennedyonemanba7999
    @philipjameskennedyonemanba7999 7 лет назад +1

    Clearly this is among the best efforts on RUclips. Your demeanor is beautiful and I can feel the sincerity. Wish I the talent to tell my tale in such a format. Since I am unable this series has been a wonderful facsimile. I'll bet there are a lot of former believers that cab really relate to so much of this thoughtful series. Looking forward to your next effort.

  • @SteveBlarkman
    @SteveBlarkman 15 лет назад

    Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. You had given names of series of those other users you enjoyed several meetings ago, but... this is the best I've seen.

  • @jceess
    @jceess 14 лет назад

    This series should be made into a documentary and put on national television.

  • @Evid3nc3
    @Evid3nc3  15 лет назад +1

    Thanks so much for your constant and enthusiastic support :)

  • @andrewnorris1
    @andrewnorris1 15 лет назад

    Your videos are truly an inspiration, and it is clear from other comments just how must your words, experiences touch and are shared by others. It is a tremendous journey you have been taking, thanks for taking us along

  • @NeoPsiTom
    @NeoPsiTom 15 лет назад

    Hi Chris. It's difficult to put into words the dimension & magnitude of your experience, you do well expressing it. The music adds a very powerful supportive synergy to this. Tom

  • @AntiCitizenX
    @AntiCitizenX 15 лет назад

    I really enjoy these videos. I think they will be a tremendous help to others going through roughly the same things as you. Please do continue in your work.

  • @gobblox38
    @gobblox38 15 лет назад

    i can't wait for part two. you have edited these videos in a way that makes them very desirable to watch and send to friends.

  • @GetMeThere1
    @GetMeThere1 15 лет назад

    Excellent one!
    I spend (too much) time on forums trying to break through with believers. This video has helped a lot with understanding their feelings and perspectives.
    It also gives me a bit of encouragement in thinking that, despite believer resistance, perhaps some things are really getting through to them.
    ....although I've always thought that they wouldn't BE there unless they were "exploring doubts," even if they didn't seem to realize it.
    ....more

  • @ObakeOnna
    @ObakeOnna 15 лет назад

    I really can't thank you enough for making this series. All of them, this video especially has been liberating, when I realize that I'm not the only one to go through these things. Despite our quite different religious backgrounds (I was a liberal lutheran, at least until I began my search for the 'true God') we've had remarkably similiar experiences in many ways. It's not that often that I get to compare such feelings with other ex-theists.

  • @WouldbeSage
    @WouldbeSage 15 лет назад

    These are the only videos that get me REALLY excited when a new one comes out.
    Best series on YT.

  • @ProfessorPEARL
    @ProfessorPEARL 15 лет назад

    Your chosen presentation style mated with your uniquely non-confrontational "this is my story" delivery is exceedingly refreshing & I am certain, reminiscent for many, of their own experiences.
    I would have liked to have seen that game though...
    Your vids are wonderful. I believe will now have to look at them all, you have yourself another subscription.
    5/5

  • @Landmine006
    @Landmine006 9 лет назад +4

    This series is amazing, keep up the great work

  • @n2thatguy
    @n2thatguy 15 лет назад

    Awesome as always. Looking better and better all the time. You have to put this all on DVD when you are done. Heck, at the rate you going this will become a 2 + hour documentary! I would buy it. Anyone else?

  • @HighPriestFuneral
    @HighPriestFuneral 15 лет назад

    Another fantastic video, and it is very interesting to see how interwoven you once were with the faith. Though as your video's go on it is much clearer where doubts arose.
    You are a rare breed my friend. Most Athiests that I've met have a smug air about them and some are even worse then the most evangelical of Christians. It is a joy to listen and watch your work, as you seem so humble and modest throughout. I am glad to see your deconversion hadn't changed that about you.

  • @pqzeus
    @pqzeus 14 лет назад

    at first i was only interested in watching your personal history, and it didn't let me down this far. but in this episode, it sent me goose bumps all over. i'm currently studying computer science myself, was an unbeliever for my whole live, but i can clearly relate to your feeling of hollowness when it comes to learning statistics or math in general, those exams are the biggest challenges in my life this far.

  • @JAYDUBYAH29
    @JAYDUBYAH29 15 лет назад

    soooooo good that you share the depth and conviction of your spiritual experience before revealing it's psychological basis... right on!

  • @txshtkckr
    @txshtkckr 15 лет назад

    I was very much hoping the holiday season would give you the opportunity to complete and release another video. As other people have reported for themselves, your deconversion is not remotely like my own in the details, but the overall model still seems very applicable, and your personal story is fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to do this series; I very much look forward to the next video.

  • @Dusty341
    @Dusty341 15 лет назад +2

    I love this series! I always get super excited whenever I see a new one pop:) Keep up the great work, looking forward to more!

  • @DodoPandemic
    @DodoPandemic 15 лет назад

    Awesome series.
    I've been raised without religion, watching your series has showed me that a deconversion is not easy, which I sometimes find myself thinking.
    Production value is also very good.

  • @thunderpants10
    @thunderpants10 15 лет назад

    I am running out of good things to say about you. Of all your vids, this one has given me the most insight into what being a christian must be like
    thank you

  • @Skidonti
    @Skidonti 15 лет назад

    This is a good as an action movie. With ten times the psychological significance!
    Seriously, I really like these videos you've been making. The raw emotion of these personal events is just riveting, and all the while you present the logical reasons why God simply is not there.

  • @ErictheRed1978
    @ErictheRed1978 15 лет назад

    You're videos are so personal; thank you for sharing your experiences to unabashedly!

  • @1140Cecile
    @1140Cecile 15 лет назад

    Thanks for continuing with this series, Evid3nc3! I'm looking forward to your conclusion so I can go back and watch them all together from the beginning.

  • @sjh7132
    @sjh7132 15 лет назад

    Oh man, I didn't realize this was a work still in progress. Now I have to wait! These are really well done. Besides a good description of what you were thinking at the time, technically I like the background music, the slight reverb on the voice, etc. Very classy.

  • @crackerkiller89
    @crackerkiller89 15 лет назад

    Wow. Thank you SOOOOO much for taking time off to do this. The whole series has been absolutely amazing.

  • @felixthehuman
    @felixthehuman 13 лет назад

    When I read comments about faith, and getting reassurance from the authoritative voice in your head, it reminds me of a trick I read about in a bicycle magazine: if you're having trouble getting uphill, imagine there are two giant rubber bands connected to the bike, pulling you uphill. Which, for me, is occasionally helpful. Now, if a person can get strength/support from something they KNOW is a figment of their imagination...

  • @CriticalAtheist
    @CriticalAtheist 15 лет назад

    Again thanks for sharing your journey. I hope others can see parallels in their own life and learn something for themselves.

  • @Alyks1
    @Alyks1 15 лет назад

    Excellent series. Waiting for the next video. Well done, and thank you.

  • @KomicGenius
    @KomicGenius 15 лет назад

    You got me waiting for your videos now, and every new one is better than the last. Good job!
    5/5

  • @eliwalks
    @eliwalks 15 лет назад

    5:38 There is something beautiful and poetic here, because you are right now using your love of technology to communicate in a new way to reach the 21st century. These videos leave me floored and I join the others choking back tears

  • @aka4x7b
    @aka4x7b 15 лет назад

    This is one of the best series on you tube.

  • @BMReaves1
    @BMReaves1 13 лет назад

    you're voice hypnotizes me, if I knew you in real life..I'd be like "just talk, pic random words to read, it doesn't matter" lol. Love the videos so far, especially the one where you talked through emails with the professor.

  • @801alias
    @801alias 15 лет назад

    @yellowlynx
    his heartfelt honesty and declaration to a world of strangers his most personal fears moved me to tears as well

  • @tyciol
    @tyciol 15 лет назад

    The music enhances this so well, very soothing voice.

  • @HeyDuffy459
    @HeyDuffy459 15 лет назад

    I've said it before, but this is one of the best series I've seen on deconversion and free thinking.
    I would LOVE to see a video talking in more detail about speaking in tongues. I think that, for many atheists, the whole thing seems absurd. But for believers the experience is apparantly very real and very moving. I'd love to hear your take on it, from someone who experienced it.

  • @ffluvssg1
    @ffluvssg1 4 года назад

    What you said about reaching people through technology is exactly how I felt when I entered college in the mid-80s. Our Christian liberal arts college encouraged us to be Christian witnesses in our respective fields. Unfortunately I was never very good at it, and it took me a long time to realize why. I have deconstructed my faith now that I am in my 50s and it makes sense why I acted so hesitant about being "that guy" in the office.

  • @TheNeverborn
    @TheNeverborn 14 лет назад

    This is the only video of yours where our stories significantly differ. I spent much of my youth in quiet frustration that God did NOT seem to talk to me. I was never able to discern between "divine guidance" and "my imagination," as you thought you could.

  • @Evid3nc3
    @Evid3nc3  15 лет назад

    Thank you so much :) I happened across your videos about a month ago and found them quite humorous. I didn't know that you were watching mine as well.
    Yes, ironically, my love of technology and focus on "evangelism" were actually hardly phased at all by my deconversion. I only changed my focus and my message.

  • @panamajackson4097
    @panamajackson4097 15 лет назад

    Top notch video as always! Waiting patiently for pt 2!

  • @debbieomi
    @debbieomi 15 лет назад

    This is such an important series of videos. Thank you for the time and effort you take to produce them.

  • @BlkwtrPrk
    @BlkwtrPrk 15 лет назад

    Another great video!
    I also remember as a believer a decade ago thinking that the 'voice' in my head felt "authoritative" and was evidence that the holy spirit was speaking to me. Prayer apparently can have this psychological effect.
    Around that time I was having terrifying sleep paralysis hallucinations which I attributed to demons.
    These experiences remind one of the power of the subconscious mind to influence conscious perceptions.

  • @generalzard1940
    @generalzard1940 14 лет назад

    I must agree with 'vanillasmile82' and others posting thumbs-up. Your "Deconversion" journey is so much similar to my own journey. It has truly been a strengthening and comforting video for me, after my terrible lonelyness during the three years when I let go of 'God's Hand'. After that terrible three years, I began building a new foundation based on Naturalism on which I could stand and face daily life.

  • @prezoftheworld
    @prezoftheworld 13 лет назад

    If this series had more views, the world would be a better place.

  • @Strike2k2
    @Strike2k2 15 лет назад

    Probably the most amazing thing i've ever seen.

  • @PervySage13
    @PervySage13 11 лет назад

    These videos are awesome! I really like following you on your path to deconversion.

  • @StratMatt777
    @StratMatt777 11 лет назад

    This one is SO good.
    We can all relate to this.
    Thanks again for this series!

  • @triftenC
    @triftenC 15 лет назад

    Woohoo!
    Excellent work. I look forward to the next video.

  • @StratMatt777
    @StratMatt777 11 лет назад

    Due to the encouragement of the Pentecostals at my church who taught a class on being spirit-filled, I finally did what they said: "Just simply open your mouth and don't think about it. You just have to open your mouth."
    At home in bed one night, because I wanted to hear from God, I finally broke through my mental barrier and in faith, opened my mouth. The noises that came out repeated and were like being a robot. I realized that if I continued down this path I would surely become mentally ill.

  • @ProfMTH
    @ProfMTH 15 лет назад

    As ever, compelling work, masterfully done.
    On a barely related note, statistics took me down like the Titanic in high school. I remember wishing God had guided me NOT to take it. ;-)
    Happy New Year!

  • @JemyM
    @JemyM 15 лет назад

    I find myself checking back to youtube weekly despite having too much to do, just to see if you posted your next video. It's my birthday today, so I say thankyou! :D

  • @woolsey2000
    @woolsey2000 15 лет назад

    u do the best stuff, thank u for sharing, i always look forward to the next installment

  • @Evid3nc3
    @Evid3nc3  15 лет назад +3

    Everyone's deeply kind and articulate comments are overwhelmingly appreciated.
    If you've not been following the twitter feed, Part 2 is on the way, as a special Christmas gift to my engaging and magnanimous subscribers.
    It should appear on the channel within an hour.

  • @babyhorsey6
    @babyhorsey6 14 лет назад

    This set of videos is excellent. Ironically, I questioned all these things when I was very young. Maybe 11 or so. That is when I wanted to be "good" and I started reading the bible front to back. Needless to say, I was very disturbed by what I read. Thankfully I had common sense enough to realize God was a fallacy. I just couldn't speak my mind until I became older.

  • @namnack
    @namnack 15 лет назад

    Another great video. Appreciated by many.

  • @shreder89
    @shreder89 11 лет назад +1

    i seriously doubt that this whole series was made by one person, and i`m beginning to question the true intentions behind all this. Mainly because this channel has been inactive for a long time, and it seems to have rushed to it`s end, almost as if the purposse of this channel was to create this whole series of deconversion videos. I sincerelly hope that this isn`t true and I can`t seem to find what other intentions a person or group of persons would have in making this series of videos, but still i can`t cease to feeel this. Anywhore, this was extremelly well done, very profound and touching, it seems that all the words where carefully planed as well as the background music, tone of voice,etc.

    • @agimasoschandir
      @agimasoschandir 10 лет назад

      At this point I was wondering along similar lines. Evid3nc3 began with a rawish handheld personal video, and has transformed into a heaven-like echo voice with requisite angelic music. And they are so well done, a befitting choice of music, the elocution, the editing, the choice of graphics. I wonder if the '3' in the name might mean two other people.
      The lack of video for so many years may be either that is all he had to say, life's priorities no longer allow him the time to do more videos, or he has annual cycles for his need to express creativity.

    • @QuidamByMoonlight
      @QuidamByMoonlight 10 лет назад +7

      I've read his blog and a lot of things he wrote. First off, Chris is a computer science major, and was planning on making video games in his early life. I don't think it'd be too hard for him to figure out the software required to put this stuff together. I use similar software (i.e. Adobe Captivate, Camtasia Studio 8) as an instructional designer, although I don't know the exact software he used. He may have had help at some points, but the story is entirely his. He spent a great deal of time making these videos, and he's stopped making them because he got his PhD, moved to California with his family, etc. And he said it's difficult at this point in his life to spend a great deal of time making videos for free because cost of living is expensive, etc. Although, I've watched these videos several times. He still makes little edits and annotations on occasion, and still occasionally answers comments. Rest assured, this is Chris R.'s aka "Evid3nce's" work, and he does it to help people...

    • @marktnicholson
      @marktnicholson 9 лет назад

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      @marktnicholson 9 лет назад

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  • @opaldragon75
    @opaldragon75 15 лет назад

    Wonderful work! Looking forward to th e continuation.

  • @StLennyBruce
    @StLennyBruce 13 лет назад

    Your courage is tremendous.

  • @HiAdrian
    @HiAdrian 15 лет назад

    About time man, about time...

  • @Evid3nc3
    @Evid3nc3  15 лет назад

    @Tespri That's a good point. It's hard to believe an omnipotent being would be so frail that it couldn't make any more of an impact on my series than causing me to release a video a week later than I usually do.
    I think one would be more convinced God had a hand in it if God did something like cause me to reconvert and put up a video about.

  • @alwaysthinkforyourself7028
    @alwaysthinkforyourself7028 10 лет назад +10

    Very similar path.

  • @imnotanrtard1
    @imnotanrtard1 15 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing. Actually finishing my degree in computer science pretty much was a "miracle" :)

  • @Malzzel
    @Malzzel 15 лет назад

    Whoa, the part where you explain how you felt that God's word was hidden - is exactly how I felt. :(
    Awesome video! :D

  • @MizarShadow
    @MizarShadow 15 лет назад

    There is a new Dante's Inferno video game that is out for PS3, you can download the demo on the network.
    And, once again, mucho kudos on the video Evid3nc3. You are a true artist.

  • @theantithesis1
    @theantithesis1 15 лет назад

    I am impatient for the conclusion of this series, to see the whole and complete picture.
    While I can agree with your network analogy, I think the personal relationship with god is key to most theist's belief and their reluctance to even consider discarding them. The emotional pull is strong and emotion is one of the two foundations to theistic beliefs. The other, of course, being ignorance.

  • @alive4ever1
    @alive4ever1 13 лет назад

    I agree, this is just wonderful work.

  • @hellcat6249472
    @hellcat6249472 14 лет назад

    This video really hit me hard - incredible stuff.

  • @waynemanorofficial
    @waynemanorofficial 8 лет назад +2

    I love this series so far.... Our backgrounds as well as our process of deconversion is fairly similar. I as well was baptized in the holy spirit and spoke in tongues. That was the hardest part of my deconversion. Feel free to message me. I would love to have a few conversations with you.

  • @commsky
    @commsky 15 лет назад

    The time it takes to make these is definitely paying off

  • @CalebDWilliams
    @CalebDWilliams 14 лет назад

    @purrot
    I'm not really looking to get in a huge conversation about this, because I'm slowly realizing that talking to anyone on RUclips is just a waste of time, but what I was pointing out is congruent with you said. My point was just because he said he was a Christian, that doesn't mean he truly was; I know plenty of people who claim to be Christians with their words while their attitudes don't back it up. This is the feeling I got from this video.

  • @HappyCheeze
    @HappyCheeze 15 лет назад

    Amazing stuff man, can't wait for more.

  • @bakalovesbakachan
    @bakalovesbakachan 12 лет назад

    I was talking about personal experiences. And God is big, yeah, unthinkably for us big. Yet He's loving enough and merciful enough to come down from His holy throne in eternity and care for our small pains and worries individualy. In fact He cares so much He gave everything He had, His most precious. His son. For us! God has given a revelation of Himself to Abraham, Moses and so on. But He has proven the Bible is His word. And yes He's in control of every moment and atom in the universe. :)

  • @EnglishGoethe
    @EnglishGoethe 15 лет назад

    Chris, if you were a missionary, you would be unstoppable. You -are- a missionary, a missionary for intellectual humility, honesty, and a profound and unquenchable search for truth. I can imagine that countless believers will watch your video, and that the sensitive, reflective ones will join with me--an atheist--in calling your work the exemplification of everything that Christians claim "God" wants: virtuous excellence. (1/2)

  • @johnbroadhurst5581
    @johnbroadhurst5581 12 лет назад

    How can anyone dislike this video part 2 is amazing

  • @themanofearth
    @themanofearth 15 лет назад

    Amazing as always.

  • @ClumsyRoot
    @ClumsyRoot 14 лет назад

    Powerful stuff. Thank you.

  • @midgety1
    @midgety1 14 лет назад

    I dont see how people could dislike this

  • @KaraokeQueenOfficial
    @KaraokeQueenOfficial 14 лет назад

    Jeez man. Your story is my story. It made me cry.

  • @Evid3nc3
    @Evid3nc3  15 лет назад

    @blurglide Good question. I argued primarily on Gamedev (for what is now probably an obvious reasons: the video game). My handle was "Orikal". I've tried to recover the conversations and they are archived but viewing them is very slow.

  • @chuckfaststrat
    @chuckfaststrat 15 лет назад

    Man, Statistics class is enough to kick the faith out of anyone! Word!

  • @djalessandromagno
    @djalessandromagno 15 лет назад +1

    I would respond to that like this: You wished the "good" god we've been told since we were kids existed . But when we look closely, it's almost imposible to separate the other atrocious things he did. In fact I realized I was picking and choosing the good parts and rejecting the nasty ones.

  • @PersonallyOptimistic
    @PersonallyOptimistic 15 лет назад

    Very honest video's thank you. It is very similar to my own experience of becoming an atheist.