In case someone is watching this video for the first time, you can use a 2inputs, 2outputs interface to connect the Microcosm, but you can also listen through headphones. I hope this is useful if someone has only this type of interface :)
Been loving this as a guitar pedal, but it's definitely found a more permanent spot on my desk! One question - and not really trying to pin you down on IF this will ever be included in a future firmware update, realize y'all are busy - more just wondering if the pedal currently is built with physical components necessary for me to hope that one day the update could happen to implement this: MIDI automation is great, being able to write in moves, but what would be great is if we could physically perform our moves on the pedal and have that midi automation record into the DAW in case we want to make some slight corrections or changes. So yeah - it's definitely a feature request, but right now I'm just trying to figure out if the pedal has the physical build necessary to detect physical input and send the CC from the midi out portl - if not the case at least I can stop holding my breath. Thanks again for a solid pedal!
Edit - we made a video covering this for Ableton and Logic Pro X: ruclips.net/video/FhFk9c48VkE/видео.html No problem! We might make a shorter video that covers this, but in the meantime, here's how to do it in both of these DAWs. Logic Pro X: Go to File > Project Settings > Synchronization and then open the MIDI tab. Check the "Clock" box on the MIDI device that you'd like to send clock to Ableton: Go to Preferences > Link MIDI. Turn "Sync" on for the output of the device that Microcosm is connected to. Make sure that the MIDI out port of the MIDI device is connected to Microcosm's MIDI in port. Hope that helps!
Hey I got confused at 1:00, you state that the microcosm’s left & right outputs are connected to inputs 1 & 2 on the Scarlett. How is this possible when the trs cable you show in the video only has 3 jacks (1 for input & 2 for output)? Is there a third trs cable involved?
The TRS cable is used for the input. Microcosm has a left and right output. We ran two standard 1/4" cables from the left and right output of Microcosm to the input on the interface.
@@HologramElectronics Aren't the proper inputs on the Focusrite coming back from the HM outputs actually line inputs 3&4 on the back of the box, not 1&2, which would be the front inputs (which maybe could be used, but I believe are usually reserved for recording in)?
OK, looking more carefully at yr vid, it does look like you r going into the front of the box, rather than using line inputs 3&4. Is there a good reason not to use the rear lines instead?
@@APB520 it's probably better to use the inputs in the front actually. These are high impedance inputs, which will interface better with Microcosm's output impedance. You'd have a worse signal-to-noise ratio if you run Microcosm into line/balanced inputs because you'll likely have to increase the gain quite a bit in order to get a stronger signal.
there is a way to do the same with an audio interface with only one set of outputs? How i should do it if this is my case? i have an apollo solo in windows. Please help++ thanks in advance
Can I use this configuration with an interface that has only two output lines (e.g Universal audio Arrow has only out 1L and 2R) setting output on mixing headphones or Mac speakers? Please I need this information, I really like to buy your product 😭
So Ive been trying this and have experimented with the different Global Input settings and still getting a distorted signal coming out of my DAW into Microcosm. I'm using an Apogee Symphony IO and Pro Tools
Hi Hologram, Im running microcosm in mono mode receiving a mono input from my interface. Everything is working correctly except for the fact that when i load the External Audio effect preset onto whatever instrument in ableton, I hear what seems to be two of the same signal overlapping at the same time with a slight delay. Is there any way to fix this in mono mode?
Hi. I have Scarlett 8i6 first edition. Scarlett mix control interface is different. Anyway I setup line output 3 with DAW3 and line output 4 with DAW4. In Ableton I can hear the sound without selecting 1/2 in "audio from" in the external audio effect. What's wrong?
In the Focusrite mixer app, you might be monitoring inputs 1/2 (direct monitoring). In any case, I don't think something would be wrong with the pedal, and I'd recommend reaching out to Focusrite support for further troubleshooting - they'll have a better idea of their legacy products/software.
super cool outro track, thanks for the helpful vid! quick question: i have a focusrite scarlett 2i4, would the unbalanced line outputs on the back of that unit work with microcosm? like if i had a dual line out to mono 1/4 into microcosm, and normal 1/4s for microcosm into the interface?
This may seem like a dumb one, but can you make a video on how you connect the microcosm to an interface like the Apollo? Maybe another one showing how to connect into a synth? This is something I feel I may be getting wrong when setting up 😅
Is it possible to do this with a focusrite 8i6? I’ve been trying to do this for an hour with ableton and the external audio effect “output” setting won’t show 3/4. Not sure what I’m doing wrong.
@@HologramElectronics It seems as if Ableton is not allowing me to see output 3/4. Any ideas on how to fix this? I have an output 3/4 and an output 1/2 as well as a line input 5/6 and input 3/4.
This makes no sense when routing in logic. They way my microcosm is set up in the io is the output is 9/10 and the input 1/2. For reference my prophet is on 7/8. I can get the microcosm to play sound no issue. When I route the track to 9/10 because of the way my setup is configured and then create a new audio track with the input 1/2 I get no sound. This is the way I would technically do it. I can’t get it to record the microcosm audio though. Any tips would be greatly appreciated? Please get back to me ASAP
I've been having the same difficulties a couple others are mentioning. I have a Scarlett 4i4, I've checked and re-checked the routing but I seem to only be able to get feedback. Is the fact that I'm monitoring using headphones from the Scarlett a contributing factor?
I’m having problem with connection. I have my stereo to mono cable going out from 3/4 from the (back of my interface ) plugged into my microcosm’s “Mono/Stereo TRS input” but when I go out from “output L and R” into the two inputs on the front of my interface I get the most terrible feedback distortion. Are you sure it takes a standard guitar cable into the front of the interface?
Happy to help - yes, you just need standard unbalanced instrument cables to run from Microcosm's outputs to your inputs. You're experiencing feedback because you've created a feedback loop somehow. Outputs 3 and 4 on your interface are likely receiving DAW playback 1/2, not DAW playback 3/4. See 1:09
Thank youuu!! Turns out that to route my microphones into Live or a guitar and be able to feed that incoming audio into this routing, I am going to need MORE inputs. I have a Saffire Pro 14 which just has 1/2 & 3/4 IN/OUT... so it makes feedback if I use input 3/4 it seems :( I wish it wasn't like this, that the input of 3/4 could be routed to 1/2 output and then 3/4 output is separate... Anyone reading this have suggestions? I think I just need a new soundcard (mine has firewire 400 to 800 cable into an 800 to thunderbolt 2 adapter as it is... very old!) that has 1-8 IN/OUT physical input jacks
I can't say for sure, but I think you should be able to make this setup work with your interface. Your interface likely has a mixer software (maybe Saffire Mix Control?). As we mentioned in this video, make sure that outputs 1/2 in your mixer software are set to receive DAW playback 1/2, and make sure that outputs 3/4 in your mixing software are receiving DAW playback 3/4. It sounds like there may be an issue with how your inputs are routed to outputs within that mix software. Check this video out: ruclips.net/video/HqgxduXH6Yg/видео.html
Sadly it just doesn't work like this. Check the Facebook group. Lots of people reporting distortion. I have to pad my interface -8dB to stop the MC distorting internally. Everything is set to line level. I don't have this problem with any other outboard gear. (Strymon, Eventide, Neunaber, TC Electronic, all working correctly at line level). To say this is disappointing in a piece of equipment at this premium price point would be a massive understatement. Quality control need to buck up their ideas!! I'll be posting a video about this on my channel soon.
Certainly, there are different headroom levels across different gear. As we mentioned in the description, shooting for a -9db maximum peak is ideal, even when in Line Level input mode. If you find that the output volume of Microcosm's effects are quiet after attenuating the input signal, you can compensate by increasing the Effect Volume (holding Shift and turning the Mix knob up). Feel free to email us at support@hologramelectronics.com if you'd like to troubleshoot with us further. Thanks!
@@HologramElectronics another day, another unhappy customer on the Facebook group, it's the most common post now. Are you going to acknowledge the problem and fix it?
@@studieslessonstheoryetc141 This seems to be the way. Some don't have any issues, while some have issues with headroom. Bizarrely, for some it's like me and the line level lacks headroom and so there is clipping on the input, but for others its the other way around and they have trouble getting enough signal in. It's a recurring complaint on the Facebook group with no solution as yet and Hologram not acknowledging the issue (as you can see)
Why don’t you release a plug-in that does what the microcosm does? Why would I want to use the processor in your pedal rather than the far more powerful processor in my computer? Also, why would I want to convert digital to analog back to digital back to analog and back to digital again? You make amazing stuff, but this isn’t close to the frontier of what’s possible.
If pedals using DSP is an issue for you, that's not a beef with this pedal specifically, but with basically all DSP pedals - that's a personal preference. There's plenty of reasons for outboard gear that use DSP.
Can you do the same tutorial for UAD console ?
how do I connect an apollo twin x to the Microcosm pedal in order to get sound ?
In case someone is watching this video for the first time, you can use a 2inputs, 2outputs interface to connect the Microcosm, but you can also listen through headphones. I hope this is useful if someone has only this type of interface :)
Excellent tutorial! I coulda used this a month ago when I was figuring this out, glad it exists now for those seeking this info.
thanks much needed and perfect after many many hours or working it out - you got the best tut !!!
This is so useful. thank you for making this film!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Thank you, wish there was a video for UAD LUNA setup!
To the point. Thank you!
Been loving this as a guitar pedal, but it's definitely found a more permanent spot on my desk!
One question - and not really trying to pin you down on IF this will ever be included in a future firmware update, realize y'all are busy - more just wondering if the pedal currently is built with physical components necessary for me to hope that one day the update could happen to implement this:
MIDI automation is great, being able to write in moves, but what would be great is if we could physically perform our moves on the pedal and have that midi automation record into the DAW in case we want to make some slight corrections or changes. So yeah - it's definitely a feature request, but right now I'm just trying to figure out if the pedal has the physical build necessary to detect physical input and send the CC from the midi out portl - if not the case at least I can stop holding my breath. Thanks again for a solid pedal!
this
thanks hologram! one last question i always think about: how do you clock the bpm/tempo from the daw to the microcosm? is there a way?
Edit - we made a video covering this for Ableton and Logic Pro X: ruclips.net/video/FhFk9c48VkE/видео.html
No problem! We might make a shorter video that covers this, but in the meantime, here's how to do it in both of these DAWs.
Logic Pro X: Go to File > Project Settings > Synchronization and then open the MIDI tab. Check the "Clock" box on the MIDI device that you'd like to send clock to
Ableton: Go to Preferences > Link MIDI. Turn "Sync" on for the output of the device that Microcosm is connected to.
Make sure that the MIDI out port of the MIDI device is connected to Microcosm's MIDI in port. Hope that helps!
Can't wait for mine to arrive 🤩
Hey I got confused at 1:00, you state that the microcosm’s left & right outputs are connected to inputs 1 & 2 on the Scarlett. How is this possible when the trs cable you show in the video only has 3 jacks (1 for input & 2 for output)? Is there a third trs cable involved?
The TRS cable is used for the input. Microcosm has a left and right output. We ran two standard 1/4" cables from the left and right output of Microcosm to the input on the interface.
@@HologramElectronics Okay thank you soo much! I purchased my microcosm pedal and I cant wait to use it!
@@HologramElectronics Aren't the proper inputs on the Focusrite coming back from the HM outputs
actually line inputs 3&4 on the back of the box, not 1&2, which would be the front inputs (which maybe could be used, but I believe are usually reserved for recording in)?
OK, looking more carefully at yr vid, it does look like you r going into the front of the box, rather than using line inputs 3&4. Is there a good reason not to use the rear lines instead?
@@APB520 it's probably better to use the inputs in the front actually. These are high impedance inputs, which will interface better with Microcosm's output impedance. You'd have a worse signal-to-noise ratio if you run Microcosm into line/balanced inputs because you'll likely have to increase the gain quite a bit in order to get a stronger signal.
In this case you could also use a MIDI cable to connect to MIDI in/out on both devices, correct? or Is it more effective to use Line Outputs??
MIDI does not pass audio, so MIDI does not work for this application.
Anyone got any ideas how to do this with a Behringer sound card please ?
there is a way to do the same with an audio interface with only one set of outputs? How i should do it if this is my case? i have an apollo solo in windows. Please help++ thanks in advance
Can I use this configuration with an interface that has only two output lines (e.g Universal audio Arrow has only out 1L and 2R) setting output on mixing headphones or Mac speakers? Please I need this information, I really like to buy your product 😭
So Ive been trying this and have experimented with the different Global Input settings and still getting a distorted signal coming out of my DAW into Microcosm. I'm using an Apogee Symphony IO and Pro Tools
Why can’t we get a plug-in version of MicroCosm?
This is perfect! Thank you so much!
Incredible, thanks so much!
Please do a cuebase version
Hi Hologram, Im running microcosm in mono mode receiving a mono input from my interface. Everything is working correctly except for the fact that when i load the External Audio effect preset onto whatever instrument in ableton, I hear what seems to be two of the same signal overlapping at the same time with a slight delay. Is there any way to fix this in mono mode?
Does it work with fl studio? I mean the whole synchronisation thing
Hi. I have Scarlett 8i6 first edition. Scarlett mix control interface is different. Anyway I setup line output 3 with DAW3 and line output 4 with DAW4. In Ableton I can hear the sound without selecting 1/2 in "audio from" in the external audio effect. What's wrong?
In the Focusrite mixer app, you might be monitoring inputs 1/2 (direct monitoring). In any case, I don't think something would be wrong with the pedal, and I'd recommend reaching out to Focusrite support for further troubleshooting - they'll have a better idea of their legacy products/software.
It seems an issue with the driver. It's really strange... damn! Thanks for your support
super cool outro track, thanks for the helpful vid!
quick question: i have a focusrite scarlett 2i4, would the unbalanced line outputs on the back of that unit work with microcosm? like if i had a dual line out to mono 1/4 into microcosm, and normal 1/4s for microcosm into the interface?
If I go out of a mono pedals and go in stereo mono (TRS In) do I have to use a TRS or TS cable to connect the two?
This may seem like a dumb one, but can you make a video on how you connect the microcosm to an interface like the Apollo? Maybe another one showing how to connect into a synth? This is something I feel I may be getting wrong when setting up 😅
Is it possible to do this with a focusrite 8i6? I’ve been trying to do this for an hour with ableton and the external audio effect “output” setting won’t show 3/4. Not sure what I’m doing wrong.
Check section at 1:42 - it may be that you have not selected those outputs in output config
@@HologramElectronics It seems as if Ableton is not allowing me to see output 3/4. Any ideas on how to fix this? I have an output 3/4 and an output 1/2 as well as a line input 5/6 and input 3/4.
I have the same issue, i notice in the video it’s on Mac and I’m using pc, not sure if that could be the reason. Im super new to this world
All the inputs and outputs show up after changing driver type to ASIO, found above channel configuration in audio preferences
would this work with an SSL 2+?
This makes no sense when routing in logic. They way my microcosm is set up in the io is the output is 9/10 and the input 1/2. For reference my prophet is on 7/8. I can get the microcosm to play sound no issue. When I route the track to 9/10 because of the way my setup is configured and then create a new audio track with the input 1/2 I get no sound. This is the way I would technically do it. I can’t get it to record the microcosm audio though. Any tips would be greatly appreciated? Please get back to me ASAP
I've been having the same difficulties a couple others are mentioning. I have a Scarlett 4i4, I've checked and re-checked the routing but I seem to only be able to get feedback.
Is the fact that I'm monitoring using headphones from the Scarlett a contributing factor?
Could you make a tutorial about controlling Microcosm with midi and also with an expression pedal
Sorry found it in your videos, thanks
I’m having problem with connection. I have my stereo to mono cable going out from 3/4 from the (back of my interface ) plugged into my microcosm’s “Mono/Stereo TRS input” but when I go out from “output L and R” into the two inputs on the front of my interface I get the most terrible feedback distortion. Are you sure it takes a standard guitar cable into the front of the interface?
Happy to help - yes, you just need standard unbalanced instrument cables to run from Microcosm's outputs to your inputs. You're experiencing feedback because you've created a feedback loop somehow. Outputs 3 and 4 on your interface are likely receiving DAW playback 1/2, not DAW playback 3/4. See 1:09
This is great, I actually have the 6i6 as well so a tailor made tutorial for me
Im waiting with excitement for my microcosm "january shipment" I keep checking my emails for confirmed tracking info haha
Is there a way to set up the microcosm as an audio effect in a DAW? I have a scarlett solo.
Hi, will the SSL 2+ work for this set up?
Have you gotten yours to work. I have SSL 2
@@eddiehascal5157 nope! I bought a presonus instead and it did the job.
Guys please do a cuebase one please
Pro Tools?
Thank youuu!!
Turns out that to route my microphones into Live or a guitar and be able to feed that incoming audio into this routing, I am going to need MORE inputs.
I have a Saffire Pro 14 which just has 1/2 & 3/4 IN/OUT... so it makes feedback if I use input 3/4 it seems :( I wish it wasn't like this, that the input of 3/4 could be routed to 1/2 output and then 3/4 output is separate...
Anyone reading this have suggestions? I think I just need a new soundcard (mine has firewire 400 to 800 cable into an 800 to thunderbolt 2 adapter as it is... very old!) that has 1-8 IN/OUT physical input jacks
I can't say for sure, but I think you should be able to make this setup work with your interface. Your interface likely has a mixer software (maybe Saffire Mix Control?). As we mentioned in this video, make sure that outputs 1/2 in your mixer software are set to receive DAW playback 1/2, and make sure that outputs 3/4 in your mixing software are receiving DAW playback 3/4. It sounds like there may be an issue with how your inputs are routed to outputs within that mix software.
Check this video out: ruclips.net/video/HqgxduXH6Yg/видео.html
Sadly it just doesn't work like this. Check the Facebook group. Lots of people reporting distortion. I have to pad my interface -8dB to stop the MC distorting internally. Everything is set to line level. I don't have this problem with any other outboard gear. (Strymon, Eventide, Neunaber, TC Electronic, all working correctly at line level). To say this is disappointing in a piece of equipment at this premium price point would be a massive understatement. Quality control need to buck up their ideas!!
I'll be posting a video about this on my channel soon.
Certainly, there are different headroom levels across different gear. As we mentioned in the description, shooting for a -9db maximum peak is ideal, even when in Line Level input mode. If you find that the output volume of Microcosm's effects are quiet after attenuating the input signal, you can compensate by increasing the Effect Volume (holding Shift and turning the Mix knob up).
Feel free to email us at support@hologramelectronics.com if you'd like to troubleshoot with us further. Thanks!
@@HologramElectronics I hope you are watching the conversation in the Facebook group.
@@HologramElectronics another day, another unhappy customer on the Facebook group, it's the most common post now. Are you going to acknowledge the problem and fix it?
Strange, I haven't had any issues after setting my gain staging - works great in Ableton, Logic, PT, as well as taking audio direct from synths.
@@studieslessonstheoryetc141 This seems to be the way. Some don't have any issues, while some have issues with headroom. Bizarrely, for some it's like me and the line level lacks headroom and so there is clipping on the input, but for others its the other way around and they have trouble getting enough signal in. It's a recurring complaint on the Facebook group with no solution as yet and Hologram not acknowledging the issue (as you can see)
Why don’t you release a plug-in that does what the microcosm does? Why would I want to use the processor in your pedal rather than the far more powerful processor in my computer? Also, why would I want to convert digital to analog back to digital back to analog and back to digital again? You make amazing stuff, but this isn’t close to the frontier of what’s possible.
If pedals using DSP is an issue for you, that's not a beef with this pedal specifically, but with basically all DSP pedals - that's a personal preference. There's plenty of reasons for outboard gear that use DSP.