Thank you! I now finally understand the distinction between the term witch and cunning folk🙂 I'm fairly new to the study of witchcraft and not a native English speaker, and I've been hearing the term cunning folk so often but this is the best and clearest definition I've come across :-) so thanks for clarifying the mystery for me😊🩷❣️
What books would you go to for indo-european exercises to build yourself up. Currently doing other things, but I always am looking for something more of pre-chistian european origin at least in spirit. I want something more than basic folk charms, vauge and fluffy stuff or stuff that's only superficially european.
it´s because the general thing didn´t exist, so what happened in many places was the most common / valued practice became the general term! i would say almost all the classifications have been made by the researchers (who weren´t practicioners themselves). for example in the uralic areas (specifically khanty people) they had 1) those who tell stories by the fire, 2) those who sing with stringed instruments, 3) those who predict from dreams, 4) those who speak with animal sounds or summon animal spirits (also called "funny men") and 5) those who heal and make spirit travels to other realms (sometimes using the drum). so the actual title of the witch came from what they do (mant =to tell) and gender (ku=man, mant-ku, telling man). also from there you can see that what is known as "shaman" in general knowledge is just one of those many categories. in (undisturbed) folk traditions there IS no divide between witch / shaman (in finnish even the word is the same, everyone is simply noita, which in modern terms means both, but originally probably only one category). the good vs. evil thing has no place there, probably made up by some troubled individuals.. black shamans, white shamans, incorrect, night shamans, day shamans, closer :) (it´s probably the southern style dual creator thinking (god vs. stan) that led them astray, it´s not good for you, don´t do it)
could also be life shamans vs. death shamans.. but even there they (researchers) say that the death shamans were a late addition. (there is no actual split to black and white in the uralic cultures, but i know that it exists in more eastern parts) in magical terms i´d say it was more like future, past and present (sky being future and earth past, or underearth). future was considered the hardest, which is obvious from just watching tarot readers (SO wrong, ALL the time). also i´m not saying that they didn´t do harm, i´m saying that they didn´t want to harm their OWN people (those who claim that do not understand traditional living, at all).
i actually agree with death shamans being late additions because it seems to go in line with all the horrible diseases that were brought there (here too i guess, just earlier). none of the magical branches have come from nothing, there´s a genuine need behind them. one big branch was finding / hiding magic.. before cattle maybe not as big, of course there´s lost items too, and people. find the lost child.. there´s the true witch test, can you do it? i couldn´t, not from sitting in a tent.
also i want to say that in some parts of the uralic lands you had to do six seven year cycles to be able to call yourself a full witch / shaman. these people are / were SERIOUS magical practioners, with high level of discipline (all the jedi practice shit, straight up stolen from shaman practice, blindfolds all that). what the evil ones have done they´ve tried to label them as some sort of child killers or other horrible acts (because that´s what they do, in the name of all mighty stupid). that´s why every time anyone says "christianity is a beautiful religion" i throw up a little (outside my mouth). :) (i try to put smilies, otherwise people think i´m angry, just passionate)
well this goes straight into my to buy list. thank you for your valuable work!
Sounds good 👍😊😊 Thanks
Great review, sounds like a good read. Good to see you. Stay safe and well, Blessings,❤.
Thank you! I now finally understand the distinction between the term witch and cunning folk🙂 I'm fairly new to the study of witchcraft and not a native English speaker, and I've been hearing the term cunning folk so often but this is the best and clearest definition I've come across :-) so thanks for clarifying the mystery for me😊🩷❣️
I've switched over to using animism in lieu of shamanism for most Indo-European practices and beliefs.
What books would you go to for indo-european exercises to build yourself up. Currently doing other things, but I always am looking for something more of pre-chistian european origin at least in spirit. I want something more than basic folk charms, vauge and fluffy stuff or stuff that's only superficially european.
Hi, Ari! I know your working on a book, but you didn't say what it was about. Can you give us a hint? **Smile**
It's all about spellcraft and spellwork 😁 keep your eyes peeled next summer!
@@TheOakWitch Awesome! Thank you! I definitely will be watching out for it! **Smile**
it´s because the general thing
didn´t exist, so what happened
in many places was the most
common / valued practice
became the general term!
i would say almost all the
classifications have been
made by the researchers (who
weren´t practicioners
themselves).
for example in the uralic areas
(specifically khanty people)
they had 1) those who tell
stories by the fire, 2) those
who sing with stringed instruments,
3) those who predict from dreams,
4) those who speak with animal sounds
or summon animal spirits (also called
"funny men") and 5) those who heal
and make spirit travels to other
realms (sometimes using the
drum).
so the actual title of the witch
came from what they do (mant
=to tell) and gender (ku=man,
mant-ku, telling man).
also from there you can see that
what is known as "shaman" in
general knowledge is just one
of those many categories.
in (undisturbed) folk traditions
there IS no divide between
witch / shaman (in finnish even
the word is the same, everyone is
simply noita, which in modern terms
means both, but originally probably
only one category).
the good vs. evil thing has no place
there, probably made up by some
troubled individuals.. black
shamans, white shamans, incorrect,
night shamans, day shamans,
closer :)
(it´s probably the southern style
dual creator thinking (god vs. stan)
that led them astray, it´s not good
for you, don´t do it)
could also be life shamans
vs. death shamans.. but even
there they (researchers)
say that the death shamans
were a late addition.
(there is no actual split
to black and white in the
uralic cultures, but i know
that it exists in more eastern
parts)
in magical terms i´d say
it was more like future,
past and present (sky being
future and earth past,
or underearth).
future was considered the
hardest, which is obvious from
just watching tarot readers
(SO wrong, ALL the time).
also i´m not saying that they
didn´t do harm, i´m saying that
they didn´t want to harm
their OWN people (those who
claim that do not understand
traditional living, at all).
i actually agree with death
shamans being late additions
because it seems to go in line
with all the horrible diseases
that were brought there
(here too i guess, just
earlier).
none of the magical branches
have come from nothing, there´s
a genuine need behind them.
one big branch was finding /
hiding magic.. before cattle maybe
not as big, of course there´s lost
items too, and people.
find the lost child.. there´s
the true witch test, can you do
it? i couldn´t, not from sitting
in a tent.
also i want to say that in some parts
of the uralic lands you had to do six
seven year cycles to be able to call
yourself a full witch / shaman.
these people are / were SERIOUS
magical practioners, with high level of
discipline (all the jedi practice
shit, straight up stolen from shaman
practice, blindfolds all that).
what the evil ones have done they´ve
tried to label them as some sort of
child killers or other horrible acts
(because that´s what they do, in
the name of all mighty stupid).
that´s why every time anyone says
"christianity is a beautiful religion"
i throw up a little (outside my mouth).
:) (i try to put smilies, otherwise
people think i´m angry, just passionate)