When it comes to turning off the racing line I found watching real life qualifying videos with the driver explaining it a great way to learn the track.
After finally learning no abs and tcs med off the the corner braking line was the hardest to get used to. Especially as a controller player trail braking and in this tense moments accidentally squeezing that 1/4 in trigger travel out of corners lol after Qatar track new to this years game I instantly fell in love with the flow and being able to pull offf running very high downforce, I turned off the corner line and much sooner than I imagined I was gaining .5 sec a lap in time trial. Then went back to the braking line and was doing worse. So it may be a pain to learn no driving line. But in the end it’s so much more worth it. For lap times and immersive fun. Great video btw
The tracking issue mostly resolve itself once you turn off the ABS. The result of not using ABS is that you leave the corners with more exit speed thus a less likely you will feel the need to accelerate more quickly. The issue with ABS is that you have to brake differently with ABS on. You have to find the braking point irrespective of the racing lines colors. Keep in mind when you turn off ABS you will lock up a lot at first. It was on my third attempt that I minimized it. There is one particular corner I struggle to get around with ABS and without ABS I hit it perfectly now. Ultimately you are much better off without assist though you may not think you are.
@@JS-id7nd I don't have an exact time, but the first thing you will do is lock up your brakes. You will teach yourself to gradually lift up to prevent locking up. Essentially, you will learn how to do basic trail braking. Don't fret too much on how long, when you do learn how to, it will be much better. ;) Expect it to strugggle with little progress in the beginning, but once you get it, it will improve quicker.
I been stopping hard on the inside of the turn and then taking off t had been working wonders for me , the tricky part is to find grip on the exit of the corner , i wont open up no more
Just got a wheel for Christmas and started with no ABS and medium traction control, all other assist off except gearbox while I learn to flippin drive lmao 😂. I spent the last 2-3 hours just driving silver stone and for the first hour I could barely complete a lap. Turning on the racing line for braking reference is great just ID something that is next to the first red indicator and your golden. I drove with “corner’s only” for about an hour and managed to crack under the 1:30:00 mark which felt sooooo good. I would use this if you are a beginner learning new tracks. I will probably do this until I can ID braking markers without corners only active consistently. It’s a grind but sooo rewarding and extremely fun
I play on controller with no assists + manual gears, but the racing line ironically is the one assist I struggle to turn off just due to the fact of forgetting my brake points. Edit: Turned off racing line and actually improving at a solid pace.
I want your wheel! Lol Ready for this. I dont use breaking points. My mind is a weird but good one. I somehow go by feel and ive asapted to it so much its like I just know when or when not to just by eye looking at the start of the corner. Its just natural for me. I learned so so fast.
@@kianf1129you can now go to the top of the leaderboards for every track and you've got Jarno and Thomas Rohanarr at the top so you can copy the setup.
@@kianf1129nah I think what he means is like what change when you car has a problem. Like how to know what to change if your car is not going the way you want. I'm struggling with this problem cos I'm new to f1 and racing games so I have no idea what I'm changing😂 the only setup I know well is the brake setup stuff.
I bought my steering wheel and f1 game last week. Without assists I can’t finish a lap without spinning haha. But I’ll get there! Next decade🤣💪🏼 nice game🤤
Very helpful! I figured everything throttle related on my own (by using logic, I'm pretty good at that 😉) and now I'm gonna master the art of braking (since i cannot for the love of god get a good break in an alpine on Bahrain on the first corner, since i lock up so much!!!) Also i would like to add that you did not mention any tips on how to get a near perfect stop in the video, Wich i hope you address in another video (i already how to get a decent start, just saying for everyone Wondering)
Hi thomb Loving these vids I am good at medium traction control and OK at none. I am good no abs but some corners are quite difficult E. G(Baku t 10) but I can't seem to get the hang of no racing line like Bahrain is quite difficult in the second sector. Do I try to perfect all assists separately or try and do a lap with nothing and keep practicing from that. Love to hearby your advice very good videos keep it up
i cant drive faster without TC. I just feel like with TC i can get more out of the car. Im generally top 20% with full assists (no braking or stering obv)
I have tried all of these yet I can still not compete against 110 ai. I have the pace, just not the mindset. The acceleration zones and straights are where mist if my issues are. Almost top r&d in powertrain, running low downforce but the ai gap me. Plz help. Btw well done on being a good driver.
Hey guys I’m new to F1 games and I wanna know how to make ALL the shift lights come on on the wheel? I wanna make it so that it’s how it is at 0:24 and I can’t find anything particularly obvious in the settings. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Hi! Great video. I have some experience (no assists, was top 3% on most tracks on F1 22). I kinda know a bit what I'm doing, understand balance, etc. But something I can't figure out is grip and minimum speed through corners. Looking at you and other pros it looks like there is just waaaay more grip mid corner. Any tips to improve on that aspect? Thanksssss
Try to consciously focus on getting better exits through corners, especially in hard braking zones. Line the car up so under braking so that it’s slow in, fast out. You can gain an immense amount of time like this. There is a lot of grip in the corners in F1 23, even I still have to finetune acceleration through corners as it’s quite easy to go full throttle very quickly. You got this, keep practicing!
I definitely will. I guess watching also feels different than driving. I might be sending it a bit too much by braking late now that you mention it. I will give that a try! Thanks for the quick response!
Some of these things dont matter in 2023 as much like the whole downshift faster in higher gears and slower in lower. It did in 2020 it was almost like it felt natural now in 2023 the downshifting feels slower in general. It feels natural. Some of you brake and downshift to fast imo hurting you. 😊
Hey, does anyone have tips for me because when i use no tc and i dont spin i win no time on exits but when i push it harder i spin does anyone have tips for me?
Question, do you guys change brake bias, differential, and fuel Mixture for different turns during races? I still need to disable the line…so hard tho, first sim really. I bit and started with everything but the racing line off.
You can, but in reality only F1 Esports drivers do that for qualifying laps only. I would not recommend doing that yourself unless you’re racing ultra competitively. 56-58% is the golden zone for Brake Bias
@@THOMB yeah, I was just asking about it, though I do switch on Bahrain, 56 or 7 for the harder zones but 55 seems to help me get through sector 3 faster.. it’s really the only track I know very well lol, I have spent most my time on it. My best lap is 129.618 in TT.. I was able to run 130 with the lines off..I can win here with AI at 90.. highest I have had it so far.. Thanks for your response though.
Im struggeling alot on contoller for grip. Whenever I come out of a slower corner and start to accelerate im starting to drift. This might be happening because i accelerate to hard.
I was having some problems with it in my first play session but it's not happening anymore, I started being more gentle while changing from acceleration /braking /steering, start about 1/4 and going up to full trigger/analog if needed (I'm currently playing on a controller with automatic gears on)
Raise your car and try max brake bias. I've always ran as low as possible with 50/50bb. I had the same issue. Seems like I would hit the brake and my back end would kick out. These changes have helped me keep the car stable
If you’re using pedals go to the input settings in f123 and go to calibration. Turn up the brake saturation it makes them more sensitive. It’s impossible to play with this at zero using a G920
Can someone answer this, why is the car in my game always sliding when exiting out of a corner?(I'm playing in Bahrain at the moment on career mode). Is it due to oversteer or something else? I'm playing on a controller also and it's kinda difficult to steer as well.
I think my favorite thing that these “real life” sim racers do is remove a piece of the car so they can see better. Stop playing admit you like playing a game
When it comes to turning off the racing line I found watching real life qualifying videos with the driver explaining it a great way to learn the track.
Personaly, i just do races with the ai and i follow them to learn the lines and the breaking zone
Got any links for those vids?
@@_TwoDot Basically every single one of nico rosberg's videos
@@joswi4177Nico Rosberg is GOATed. I improved by a few tenths after watching his Monaco video.
Max his onboards. Simply lovely.
Nice one Thomb! One of the best, clearest guides I’ve seen!
After finally learning no abs and tcs med off the the corner braking line was the hardest to get used to. Especially as a controller player trail braking and in this tense moments accidentally squeezing that 1/4 in trigger travel out of corners lol after Qatar track new to this years game I instantly fell in love with the flow and being able to pull offf running very high downforce, I turned off the corner line and much sooner than I imagined I was gaining .5 sec a lap in time trial. Then went back to the braking line and was doing worse. So it may be a pain to learn no driving line. But in the end it’s so much more worth it. For lap times and immersive fun. Great video btw
Trailing is super important. You can use it to get your car to rotate through the corner quicker
The tracking issue mostly resolve itself once you turn off the ABS. The result of not using ABS is that you leave the corners with more exit speed thus a less likely you will feel the need to accelerate more quickly. The issue with ABS is that you have to brake differently with ABS on. You have to find the braking point irrespective of the racing lines colors. Keep in mind when you turn off ABS you will lock up a lot at first. It was on my third attempt that I minimized it. There is one particular corner I struggle to get around with ABS and without ABS I hit it perfectly now.
Ultimately you are much better off without assist though you may not think you are.
How long did it take for you to learn no abs
@@JS-id7nd I don't have an exact time, but the first thing you will do is lock up your brakes. You will teach yourself to gradually lift up to prevent locking up. Essentially, you will learn how to do basic trail braking. Don't fret too much on how long, when you do learn how to, it will be much better. ;)
Expect it to strugggle with little progress in the beginning, but once you get it, it will improve quicker.
Short and to the point! Excellent guide mate! ♥
You are a lifesaver man, youve basically helped with all my problems with no assists on
I been stopping hard on the inside of the turn and then taking off t had been working wonders for me , the tricky part is to find grip on the exit of the corner , i wont open up no more
This will help me 100%
Just got a wheel for Christmas and started with no ABS and medium traction control, all other assist off except gearbox while I learn to flippin drive lmao 😂. I spent the last 2-3 hours just driving silver stone and for the first hour I could barely complete a lap. Turning on the racing line for braking reference is great just ID something that is next to the first red indicator and your golden. I drove with “corner’s only” for about an hour and managed to crack under the 1:30:00 mark which felt sooooo good. I would use this if you are a beginner learning new tracks. I will probably do this until I can ID braking markers without corners only active consistently. It’s a grind but sooo rewarding and extremely fun
how do you get into practice?
You playin f1 23?
I play on controller with no assists + manual gears, but the racing line ironically is the one assist I struggle to turn off just due to the fact of forgetting my brake points.
Edit: Turned off racing line and actually improving at a solid pace.
I want your wheel! Lol
Ready for this. I dont use breaking points. My mind is a weird but good one. I somehow go by feel and ive asapted to it so much its like I just know when or when not to just by eye looking at the start of the corner. Its just natural for me. I learned so so fast.
Loving these but can you please do a setup guide because that is the hardest one I struggle with
There’s no proper set ups out yet you’ll have to wait for the esports guys to get them
@@kianf1129you can now go to the top of the leaderboards for every track and you've got Jarno and Thomas Rohanarr at the top so you can copy the setup.
@@kianf1129nah I think what he means is like what change when you car has a problem. Like how to know what to change if your car is not going the way you want. I'm struggling with this problem cos I'm new to f1 and racing games so I have no idea what I'm changing😂 the only setup I know well is the brake setup stuff.
@@kianf1129wait do everyone copy eSports setups? I thought everyone made their own and only beginners copy their setups
I tried the Elite No Assist and OMG it's tough but I'm getting better. Thanks for the tutorial. Keep up the amazing work.
Just started a my team today with no assists on 60 difficulty, I am locking up so bad 😂
Excellent intro, thanks for the vid
Amazing video, Thomb.
so helpful. thx!
Thomb the bomb coming in clutch
If your new to turning off the Racing Line. Leave the line on for about 5 laps to speed up your leaning of where to break. Then turn it off.
I bought my steering wheel and f1 game last week. Without assists I can’t finish a lap without spinning haha. But I’ll get there! Next decade🤣💪🏼 nice game🤤
Good to know wheel players suffer too
@@SupaMan2122 Wheel players suffer the most
Good stuff here.
Kind of hard to trailbreak on controller
I needed this
Hope it helped!
Very helpful! I figured everything throttle related on my own (by using logic, I'm pretty good at that 😉) and now I'm gonna master the art of braking (since i cannot for the love of god get a good break in an alpine on Bahrain on the first corner, since i lock up so much!!!) Also i would like to add that you did not mention any tips on how to get a near perfect stop in the video, Wich i hope you address in another video (i already how to get a decent start, just saying for everyone Wondering)
Trail braking while playing with the throttle really does gives an advantage
Thomb the bomb.
SEREN!!!
🤣🤣
Hi thomb
Loving these vids I am good at medium traction control and OK at none. I am good no abs but some corners are quite difficult
E. G(Baku t 10) but I can't seem to get the hang of no racing line like Bahrain is quite difficult in the second sector. Do I try to perfect all assists separately or try and do a lap with nothing and keep practicing from that. Love to hearby your advice very good videos keep it up
I would really like to know where to get the wheel and pedals like the one in the video
Over 250 hours on f1 games never learned to drive without assists and line, it is yust nightmare of a game.
Why does my assist settings only shows steering assist and recurring flashback prompt? Is there any connections with game updates?
i cant drive faster without TC. I just feel like with TC i can get more out of the car. Im generally top 20% with full assists (no braking or stering obv)
i have all assists turned off except for the racing line, its just the memorisation of where to break at every corner.
I have tried all of these yet I can still not compete against 110 ai. I have the pace, just not the mindset. The acceleration zones and straights are where mist if my issues are. Almost top r&d in powertrain, running low downforce but the ai gap me. Plz help. Btw well done on being a good driver.
Hey guys I’m new to F1 games and I wanna know how to make ALL the shift lights come on on the wheel? I wanna make it so that it’s how it is at 0:24 and I can’t find anything particularly obvious in the settings. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Hi! Great video. I have some experience (no assists, was top 3% on most tracks on F1 22). I kinda know a bit what I'm doing, understand balance, etc. But something I can't figure out is grip and minimum speed through corners. Looking at you and other pros it looks like there is just waaaay more grip mid corner. Any tips to improve on that aspect? Thanksssss
Try to consciously focus on getting better exits through corners, especially in hard braking zones. Line the car up so under braking so that it’s slow in, fast out. You can gain an immense amount of time like this. There is a lot of grip in the corners in F1 23, even I still have to finetune acceleration through corners as it’s quite easy to go full throttle very quickly. You got this, keep practicing!
I definitely will. I guess watching also feels different than driving. I might be sending it a bit too much by braking late now that you mention it. I will give that a try! Thanks for the quick response!
Some of these things dont matter in 2023 as much like the whole downshift faster in higher gears and slower in lower. It did in 2020 it was almost like it felt natural now in 2023 the downshifting feels slower in general. It feels natural. Some of you brake and downshift to fast imo hurting you. 😊
Ta mate
How to set up brakes perfect(avg)
Where can i get somer nice setups and how can I get the best ai level
Problems getting my car set up brakes steering, Locking tires when I’m not expecting it , Yes too much steering and travelling to fast
I play with a keyboard I ask if it well be possible to play without assists because I want to have the full experince
Hey, does anyone have tips for me because when i use no tc and i dont spin i win no time on exits but when i push it harder i spin does anyone have tips for me?
Not driving in FPS and driving in TPS is the most powerful assist in my opinion
I'm having trouble with braking it's so hard for me to gradually reduce the brakes it seems like it just goes 0-100 and 100-0, anyone have tips
Question, do you guys change brake bias, differential, and fuel Mixture for different turns during races? I still need to disable the line…so hard tho, first sim really. I bit and started with everything but the racing line off.
You can, but in reality only F1 Esports drivers do that for qualifying laps only. I would not recommend doing that yourself unless you’re racing ultra competitively. 56-58% is the golden zone for Brake Bias
@@THOMB yeah, I was just asking about it, though I do switch on Bahrain, 56 or 7 for the harder zones but 55 seems to help me get through sector 3 faster.. it’s really the only track I know very well lol, I have spent most my time on it. My best lap is 129.618 in TT.. I was able to run 130 with the lines off..I can win here with AI at 90.. highest I have had it so far.. Thanks for your response though.
how can my friend brake at 50m
and i must brake at 120m ?
same corners two player career
Im struggeling alot on contoller for grip. Whenever I come out of a slower corner and start to accelerate im starting to drift. This might be happening because i accelerate to hard.
There’s no way to control it
the slow speed corners with TC turned off are really hard to not get wheel spin accelerating
I was having some problems with it in my first play session but it's not happening anymore, I started being more gentle while changing from acceleration /braking /steering, start about 1/4 and going up to full trigger/analog if needed (I'm currently playing on a controller with automatic gears on)
Braking with a controller is really difficult, i brake 100% and then 0%
The same for acceleration
I'm struggling with Traction control I'm using controller
Can anyone explain to me why no pro driver , drives in cockpitview ?? Hard to grasp
What do you think f122 or 21 nice or 23
How to get an invite to f1 e sports?
Is the next creator series race on f122 or 23?
23 :)
what is your camera settings
Check out my camera settings video on F1 23 🤝
No one should be taking ERS tips from Thomb Da Bomb ;)
0:48 1:56
I'm struggling so much with braking, no matter what I do, it's like I have no brakes at all. Anyone got advice?
Raise your car and try max brake bias. I've always ran as low as possible with 50/50bb. I had the same issue. Seems like I would hit the brake and my back end would kick out. These changes have helped me keep the car stable
If you’re using pedals go to the input settings in f123 and go to calibration. Turn up the brake saturation it makes them more sensitive. It’s impossible to play with this at zero using a G920
@@deafcon22 I'm on controller. I do have a wheel, but it's cheap and not very responsive.
@@Hopes91 Well yeah you if you use a controller you should be using assits like abs and medium TC
@@Kerbal18 Maybe, but I'd like to try without them y'know?
Time trials I'm suspicious of especially when I'm seeing people hitting a 1.24 😂 6 seconds faster than my time 😂
Why is my car drifting in the corners?
For some reason I want to turn the assists off straight away
Can someone answer this, why is the car in my game always sliding when exiting out of a corner?(I'm playing in Bahrain at the moment on career mode). Is it due to oversteer or something else? I'm playing on a controller also and it's kinda difficult to steer as well.
It could be to do with rear tyre locking (if so, put brake bias percentage up) or traction loss on acceleration (if so, take it easy on accelerator)
@@THOMB il try that👍
@@THOMB my traction is on full but still slides when exiting a corner.
What about drs bro
just press the key lmao
Thomb why would we listen to you about ers management 🤣🤣
Aaldert
Bro completely ignored the most difficult assist to master once turned off, the DRS assist...
🤣
How do I drive with a keyboard without traction control 😂
Theres your first problem. You are playing with a keyboard which is awful for racing games
I think my favorite thing that these “real life” sim racers do is remove a piece of the car so they can see better. Stop playing admit you like playing a game
ACC is 10 times better; even Max Verstappen plays ACC or iRacing in his spare time. T cam yuck!!
real drivers play Elite .. that’s the closest experience to real car
How does your car go 350 mine only goes 316?
F.Y.I gravity hasn't been a force for 108 years. Gravity isn't a force.