🎉 You won the debate I respect you for that sir. You gave them the raw facts You are not only intelligent, but you are also a clean wise one Nigerians and Indians were both colonized by the British, but the Indians rejected British culture, and they held onto British technology. We were colonized to believe because you speak good English you are intelligent How many perfect English speakers among us invented anything But our forefathers did a lot of inventions even without much education. The day I decided to go back to Igbo culture was the day my life change for good. You are an incredible teacher, I have learned a lot from you and I owe you a lot
Dalu. Although the idea is not to win but to puncture the notion that Dibias are dirty and ill informed members of the society. That's the main motive behind my showing up. I didn't really come to win. I came to teach and decolonise minds.
34:39 leave it to the pastor to not make any coherent points for his argument and revert back to the default of evil this, evil that. God created both sides of good and evil. His God commanded Abraham to kill thousands to acquire land. land was good in that scenario , death was evil in that scenario Ezeikolommuo you won this debate by a landslide.
Human sacrifice started in the bible cos Abraham was asked to sacrifice Isaac & the warrior who made promise God to give any person who he meets first from his house he would give as a sacrifice unto the Lord but it was his own beloved daughter that met him first. And even God sacrificed jesus so I don't get it when Christians says its demons that ask for human blood. In spirituality the greater the course the greater the sacrifice but in African spirituality its abominable to use human cos 6 cows atone to that of 1 human. The subject of spirituality is deep. But Christianity to us as Africans is our downfall
Nice studo.. Excellent gentle men all over.. BUT..the arguement or should I say topic WAS NOT powerful enogh...Nze has to digress to mak it a bit interesting..kudos
This Pastor fall my hand sha! Tobechukwu won the debate before the debate started. I noticed how tensed he was before the interview. Tobechukwu it is obvious that you are very confident and vastly knowledgeable. I will like to meet you one day and have a one on one debate/discussion with you. My name too is Tobechukwu.
I love what pastor said pastor said there's a white witch and black witch that all is saving the Same God. That prove that eze ikolu is Wright for saying there's no evil spirit that all spirit come from the same source
Biko what's the name of this radio FM The thing there is that nobody owns anybody any explanation coz regardless to what ikolo tries to explain, the pastor still believes what he believes. Make all man die with there believe
Why Chinese instrumental when we are discussing issues about us? There is no excuse. We Africans time and time again neglect our existence and quickly adapt to "foreign"
It is wrong to claim that there is nothing wrong or evil from God. If God is the creator of the universe and everything within, then God is the father of good and evil.
At the pastors last statement, wiping a whole family for a particular crime is a continuous reminder to those that may think of committing the same crime and telling them that look if you do this kind of thing, this is what comes to you.
I feel most of the hosts questions were not answered, the guests missed the point of the questions most times and I applaud the hosts for being patient despite how off track the answers were and also how defensive each speaker was
Having studied the bible back to back, over the years, I’m inclined to believe those who say god is all god are those who have never opened the scriptures to study for themselves. The Nze is a more advanced man in thoughts and wisdom. To see where evil comes from we only need refer to Isaiah 45 vs 7 where it clearly says evil and good comes from God. ‘I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil, I the LORD do all these things.’ Greetings to the great Nze Tobe, odogwu ka’ibu
My take on this. A lot of Christians today don’t even know about the history of what they practice. Also look at your big pastors today globally, they are all Freemason. Lastly who even wrote the Bible??? A freemason……. Religion is practiced by poor people. A good example, look at the Saudi prince that recently got married, did you see how his wife was dressed? Look at their religious counterparts in Africa. Ifa the yourba spirituality is practiced globally because they didn’t reject the ways their ancestors. Look at their land today very prosperous that the igbos run to Lagos for greener pastures. Ndi Igbo wake up and practice your spirituality that’s when the rising sun will shine again. Tobe you are doing a good job. Keep education ignorant folks. Perhaps they will wake up. I wish you brought up the Indians and how the Brit’s colonized them, but they rejected their religion. Look at the development in technology today.
The man of God is blabbing but there is no problems, he who want to be good let him be and he who want to be bad let him him be since everyone must surely pay for what they did .
One thing I don't like Christianity is that they term every thing African as evill. Which craft is not evil but it is those who acquire this power and use it for their selfish intrest that are really evil No matter how hard you try to explain this to a Christian they will never understand or accept this reality
Nice debate, but a lot was left on the table my people. Problem of language was so prevalent in this discourse that different terminologies were used in the wrong context. The narrative surrounding physical and metaphysics vis as vis the concept of good and bad ought to be properly established. My brother, the invention of cell phones can't be termed witchcraft, there might be other-worldly powers that assisted with the invention, but you can't outrightly term it witchcraft. Witchcraft is defined as a practice of magic for evil purposes, but the invention of cell phones has made the world a global village, hence easing life for humans. Also, Ezeikolo nwanne, you contradicted yourself when you opined that ignorance is not an excuse, as such, the ignorant acts of our for-fathers that supposedly are the cause of their offspring's present-day demise should not be excused either. You've made some videos where you talked about praying to/appeasing your chi and ancestors. If some of our forefathers discarded their mmuo/alusi and joined Christianity, then the mmuo/alusi per our traditional Igbo belief disrupts the easy flow of life for their offspring, why does Afa reveal that the gods are angry and needs appeasement? ...but you stated that the sins/ignorance of the fathers does not affect their children. Furthermore, in the traditional Igbo worldview, the concept of Good and Bad is an undeniable reality. If the traditional Igbo language has a name for anything, that element becomes a reality. When a child slaps you and you slap back that's not evil, that would be considered a teachable moment for the child in our Igbo norms. If an elder slap you and you slap him/her back, following your posits, there should be nothing wrong with that either since the concept of good and bad does not exist for you. Again, in the Igbo culture I emerged from, if you go rape your mother, kill your father, steal something that does not belong to you, render false accusation on an innocent person etc, these acts are considered evil, and some of them Nso-ana. Hence, unless you have a varied definition of Good and Evil, we would appreciate it if you'd take time to elaborate. As true student of philosophy with emphasis in Epistemology (Theory of knowledge), I know exactly where you are coming from, but I feel that you tried to be overly scholastic with some of your responses. Yes, you can say it's evil for a man/woman to kill a fellow human person for ritual purposes without compromising your stance. You can also declare that any alusi/mmuo that asks you to kill your mother for sacrifice is a bad one. I do believe in the general notion of good and evil, and that our planet is laden with various elemental forces of both good and evil that are always at play in this spatio-temporal existence. Again, very good debate, daalunu
Ikolo....please less debate, more teachings ! You hav nothing to prove. The blind dont see no matter how colourful the picture in front of them maybe. I enjoyed your logic but dont do this again !
At times we have to stand on the same stage with our accusers and ask them to bring forth their strong argument. Remember this world is more of perception than truth. You may know the truth but do people perceive you as one who knows the truth? It's high time traditionalists started becoming conscious of their perception. And one of the ways to create a sound perception is shows like this. Trust me, my showing up for this programme was intentional.
😂😂😂osi darkenss is bad. And God dwell in the dark b4 there was light and still good and evil. Which house dey talk buy me banana? Ogu ego is drug money. Simple Igbo. The land is lamenting because they left the ways of their forefathers who communicated Chineke directly and embrassed a religion brought to them with lies.
You traditional man who is educating me about the lies these so called pastor are preaching, example saying in front Jesus is a savior and you make blind ear, This debating is too cheap
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You're really enlightened Nze... How you elaborate things makes one want to go deeper to fully understand Igbo spirituality
Dalu
I really appreciate both sides, but our tradition is still our inheritance and we need to embrace it in truth and in spirit
🎉 You won the debate I
respect you for that sir. You gave them the raw facts
You are not only intelligent, but you are also a clean wise one
Nigerians and Indians were both colonized by the British, but the Indians rejected British culture, and they held onto British technology.
We were colonized to believe because you speak good English you are intelligent
How many perfect English speakers among us invented anything
But our forefathers did a lot of inventions even without much education.
The day I decided to go back to Igbo culture was the day my life change for good.
You are an incredible teacher, I have learned a lot from you and I owe you a lot
Dalu. Although the idea is not to win but to puncture the notion that Dibias are dirty and ill informed members of the society. That's the main motive behind my showing up. I didn't really come to win. I came to teach and decolonise minds.
More grace to you sir. You are a true definition.
@tobeosigwe6171 sounds like a win to me. Not to beat the other person but to make your point clear
Indeed, it is very good to listen to debate like this, and it is informed more about our spirituality. Thanks for this, and keep it up
Dalu
Great. I love the fact that education is very important in anything you do. Ikolo mmou you spoke well. Is good to be good in what you do.
Dalu.
Already intimidated by your Aura and charisma 🤣✅🤣
That is actions begets reaction on part of someone slapping you and you slap Back,unless you wanna overlook
Wow this is the most wonderful debate I have ever seen. Thanks to both of you we want more of this the truth need to be spite out.
Thanks for watching.
34:39 leave it to the pastor to not make any coherent points for his argument and revert back to the default of evil this, evil that. God created both sides of good and evil. His God commanded Abraham to kill thousands to acquire land. land was good in that scenario , death was evil in that scenario
Ezeikolommuo you won this debate by a landslide.
Ikolo Mmụọ, ịgbọlụ ife ewu na-eri...You made every of your point with convincing and reasonable backups
Ubanized dalu ri nne!
Nze
You are well enlightened in what you do? Keep up the work, you're really needed in the igbo society.
Human sacrifice started in the bible cos Abraham was asked to sacrifice Isaac & the warrior who made promise God to give any person who he meets first from his house he would give as a sacrifice unto the Lord but it was his own beloved daughter that met him first. And even God sacrificed jesus so I don't get it when Christians says its demons that ask for human blood. In spirituality the greater the course the greater the sacrifice but in African spirituality its abominable to use human cos 6 cows atone to that of 1 human. The subject of spirituality is deep. But Christianity to us as Africans is our downfall
Thanks for that God is the first to sacrifice according to their bible
Otu onye na efe Arusi na Igo mmuo u are a wise man 💪🏼 tradition forever ❤️
muo... your enlightenment is really world class 😇I tap from your originality, you are indeed a teacher sir
Dalu.
I will really love to meet nze in person. Maka na eziokwu bu ndu
What and educationh debate . Eze Ikolo Mmuo I so respected the way you maintained your lane boundaries while in the session .
Ikwadolu akwado nno 😂
Dibia is a serious business. Defending the ways of our ancestors is a serious call.
I really love everything about you Nze Tobe jisike nwannem Edo nnewi nyekwu gi amamihe
My brother you've been richly blessed by Agwu. I'm happy I came across your page but I feel it's meant to be because what is meant to be will be.
Ikolo I sight you, you are giving me so much knowledge
Dalu. Yagazielugi!
Where is the rest of this clip ooooo 😆
Tobe Ikolospirit, I really love your college, keep telling us the truth
Yagazielugi!
Iseeee Omenala have come to stay .
This was a good debate, could have been better but still good
Nice studo.. Excellent gentle men all over.. BUT..the arguement or should I say topic WAS NOT powerful enogh...Nze has to digress to mak it a bit interesting..kudos
Eze Ikolo Mmuo , the face alone eeh.... No be here . Space adiro na that your face ....😂😂😂
What was the hostess talking about "answering the call of nature?" Does she know what she is saying?
Respect to you, Ikolo The Great One.
So educative
I love you brother Nze Tobe
Please sir I want to ask what is the meaning of ezeagwu or can you please make a video on that Biko I really want to learn it
I am not sure I have heard of the concept of Ezeagwu. Perhaps you may have to explain more.
There is forgiveness.
God is a merciful God. If there was no forgiveness or second chances, there would be nothing like reincarnation.
Wetin u no know pass u
You're doing well my brethren. Ya gaziee Nze.
😆 🤣 where did they get this evangelist from?
The show anchors need to research and prepare with more intelligent questions.
This Pastor fall my hand sha! Tobechukwu won the debate before the debate started. I noticed how tensed he was before the interview. Tobechukwu it is obvious that you are very confident and vastly knowledgeable. I will like to meet you one day and have a one on one debate/discussion with you. My name too is Tobechukwu.
I love what pastor said pastor said there's a white witch and black witch that all is saving the Same God. That prove that eze ikolu is Wright for saying there's no evil spirit that all spirit come from the same source
Thanks for watching.
What is the pastor referring to as darkness
Tobe is very smart
It's Nze Tobe.
Bi location and split personality are they the same?
If split personality being two or more places at the same time. Then it also means bi-location
@@Ezeikolomuo 🙏
Madam, do women talk about masquerades in such a profane way in your community? Why would a woman be saying "mmadụ ga-ekpupute mmọnwụ" on radio?
Witchcraft isn't bad ooo.
Tobe odogwu👏👏👏
Biko what's the name of this radio FM
The thing there is that nobody owns anybody any explanation coz regardless to what ikolo tries to explain, the pastor still believes what he believes.
Make all man die with there believe
Why Chinese instrumental when we are discussing issues about us? There is no excuse. We Africans time and time again neglect our existence and quickly adapt to "foreign"
It is wrong to claim that there is nothing wrong or evil from God. If God is the creator of the universe and everything within, then God is the father of good and evil.
Nature is pure, and all God created was good and pure even in the spirit it is the use of this powers that we call good and evil
what is good for the leopard is bad for the goat
what is good for the goat is bad for the leopard
and yet we say there is one god overall
Mata-Jiri-Kee. "MaJik"
It's hurt me so much that I can't understand ur language, because this a very interesting topic
My apologies.
why do the wicked prosper?
At the pastors last statement, wiping a whole family for a particular crime is a continuous reminder to those that may think of committing the same crime and telling them that look if you do this kind of thing, this is what comes to you.
Religion thrives on fear.
See as the evangelist bend down like say hin dey bind Ikolomuo 😂😂😂😂
Ezeikolomuo you're too much Nwanne!!!
I feel most of the hosts questions were not answered, the guests missed the point of the questions most times and I applaud the hosts for being patient despite how off track the answers were and also how defensive each speaker was
🎉
Nice one but pastor why do you people not teach us about our natural energy in church. All we here is Jesus yeshua, yaweh holy Spirit. Why?
You nailed it. Na only Holiness we need?
Prophetic messages/the truth is always frowned or seen as insane. That’s how you know who is correct
36:03 who said there's time to slap lol😂
Having studied the bible back to back, over the years, I’m inclined to believe those who say god is all god are those who have never opened the scriptures to study for themselves. The Nze is a more advanced man in thoughts and wisdom.
To see where evil comes from we only need refer to Isaiah 45 vs 7 where it clearly says evil and good comes from God.
‘I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil, I the LORD do all these things.’
Greetings to the great Nze Tobe, odogwu ka’ibu
We belittle our culture but if na white do am we go hail am
Please Mr pastor my ancestors are not darkness , please mind your words Because the wise one( sir Tode) has not say anything against Christianity
IKORO MMUO IBU ODOGWU ❤
Ezeikolommuo
I wish I could take on this pastor 😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly the pastor tried, but we have you sir to teach us more about spirituality. I believe 100% that there is no forgiveness.
Nze daalu. Well said. Please more lessons less arguments.
My take on this. A lot of Christians today don’t even know about the history of what they practice. Also look at your big pastors today globally, they are all Freemason. Lastly who even wrote the Bible??? A freemason…….
Religion is practiced by poor people. A good example, look at the Saudi prince that recently got married, did you see how his wife was dressed?
Look at their religious counterparts in Africa.
Ifa the yourba spirituality is practiced globally because they didn’t reject the ways their ancestors. Look at their land today very prosperous that the igbos run to Lagos for greener pastures.
Ndi Igbo wake up and practice your spirituality that’s when the rising sun will shine again.
Tobe you are doing a good job. Keep education ignorant folks. Perhaps they will wake up.
I wish you brought up the Indians and how the Brit’s colonized them, but they rejected their religion. Look at the development in technology today.
Jenny, thanks for your indepth contribution. This is a movement. Ikolo is sounding, our people have no other choice than to wake up.
@@Ezeikolomuo well said!
Interesting,the pastor just came to rubbish himself
The man of God is blabbing but there is no problems, he who want to be good let him be and he who want to be bad let him him be since everyone must surely pay for what they did .
One thing I don't like Christianity is that they term every thing African as evill.
Which craft is not evil but it is those who acquire this power and use it for their selfish intrest that are really evil
No matter how hard you try to explain this to a Christian they will never understand or accept this reality
Eligo evangelist ah
Nice debate, but a lot was left on the table my people. Problem of language was so prevalent in this discourse that different terminologies were used in the wrong context. The narrative surrounding physical and metaphysics vis as vis the concept of good and bad ought to be properly established. My brother, the invention of cell phones can't be termed witchcraft, there might be other-worldly powers that assisted with the invention, but you can't outrightly term it witchcraft. Witchcraft is defined as a practice of magic for evil purposes, but the invention of cell phones has made the world a global village, hence easing life for humans. Also, Ezeikolo nwanne, you contradicted yourself when you opined that ignorance is not an excuse, as such, the ignorant acts of our for-fathers that supposedly are the cause of their offspring's present-day demise should not be excused either. You've made some videos where you talked about praying to/appeasing your chi and ancestors. If some of our forefathers discarded their mmuo/alusi and joined Christianity, then the mmuo/alusi per our traditional Igbo belief disrupts the easy flow of life for their offspring, why does Afa reveal that the gods are angry and needs appeasement? ...but you stated that the sins/ignorance of the fathers does not affect their children. Furthermore, in the traditional Igbo worldview, the concept of Good and Bad is an undeniable reality. If the traditional Igbo language has a name for anything, that element becomes a reality. When a child slaps you and you slap back that's not evil, that would be considered a teachable moment for the child in our Igbo norms. If an elder slap you and you slap him/her back, following your posits, there should be nothing wrong with that either since the concept of good and bad does not exist for you. Again, in the Igbo culture I emerged from, if you go rape your mother, kill your father, steal something that does not belong to you, render false accusation on an innocent person etc, these acts are considered evil, and some of them Nso-ana. Hence, unless you have a varied definition of Good and Evil, we would appreciate it if you'd take time to elaborate. As true student of philosophy with emphasis in Epistemology (Theory of knowledge), I know exactly where you are coming from, but I feel that you tried to be overly scholastic with some of your responses. Yes, you can say it's evil for a man/woman to kill a fellow human person for ritual purposes without compromising your stance. You can also declare that any alusi/mmuo that asks you to kill your mother for sacrifice is a bad one. I do believe in the general notion of good and evil, and that our planet is laden with various elemental forces of both good and evil that are always at play in this spatio-temporal existence. Again, very good debate, daalunu
Thanks for your contribution.
Ikolo....please less debate, more teachings ! You hav nothing to prove. The blind dont see no matter how colourful the picture in front of them maybe. I enjoyed your logic but dont do this again !
At times we have to stand on the same stage with our accusers and ask them to bring forth their strong argument. Remember this world is more of perception than truth.
You may know the truth but do people perceive you as one who knows the truth? It's high time traditionalists started becoming conscious of their perception. And one of the ways to create a sound perception is shows like this.
Trust me, my showing up for this programme was intentional.
The evangelist sounds empty but of course what dose know
He does not sound empty.
What's this evangelist talking about? Lol
Nze is clearly more intelligent
So no one can speak Igbo these day? Why don't you simply make this and English speaking program. All this Engli-Igbo is so annoying.
Evangelist, who created Satan?
This evangelist is not knowledgeable at all.
😂😂😂osi darkenss is bad. And God dwell in the dark b4 there was light and still good and evil.
Which house dey talk buy me banana? Ogu ego is drug money. Simple Igbo.
The land is lamenting because they left the ways of their forefathers who communicated Chineke directly and embrassed a religion brought to them with lies.
Please do not mind ill informed minds.
You traditional man who is educating me about the lies these so called pastor are preaching, example saying in front
Jesus is a savior and you make blind ear,
This debating is too cheap
Your written English isnt clear. Go over it again and edit.
Please Mr pastor my ancestors are not darkness , please mind your words Because the wise one( sir Tode) has not say anything against Christianity