UPDATE Upon checking this morning, Oraxen seems to have been deleted from Polymart: bsky.app/profile/kasai.gg/post/3lbmbucw42k2h After doing some digging, it turns out the Polymart staff team have hidden the project: bsky.app/profile/kasai.gg/post/3lbmh27pm2s2z
Unfortunately, Boy should have made his own resource from the start to avoid this issue altogether. But, that said, how dare this thorgal have the audacity to wait 3 years for someone to build their project up to the heights it is today and then forcefully take it over.
It's nice to have a video explaining the situation. I did notice the massive flood of negative reviews on Spigot, which was the biggest surprise to me.
It was idiotic of Boy just thinking that he could grab someones project and continue it how he wants. It wasnt his and he just snatched the code without checking any licenses etc. Should have just forked it or build it from the ground up.
as per one of th0rgals comments on the issue, they had an agreement it wasn't just boy grabbing someone elses project, they had an agreement for boy to maintain it together th0rgal: When I started university, I had less time to focus on Oraxen. To show appreciation, I offered to share profits with one of the maintainers who had been contributing voluntarily. Over time, this evolved into a very generous agreement where he received 80% of the plugin's revenue in exchange for maintaining it.
Most poeple did! And honesly Boy has been the owner and sole dev for these past 3 years. He made the plugin to what it is today. It's not fair for the OG dev to just take it back and strip Boy of everything
The developer should just make his own Oraxen, and license it under GPL V2 / V3. or another open source license. To prevent this from happening Also dont know why the hell you would ever develop for a plugin that has such a terrible license, the original copyright owner literally owns any modifications of the work... So technically, he literally owns years of work boy0000 did. As he was contributing improvements to Oraxen.
Ive been Doing Minecraft dev for over 7 years servers and the what not, and never once hurd of Oraxen, does anyone have a link to the new Server plugin the one talked about in this video from Boy0000!?
I'm using a self compiled oraxen copy on my server because we didn't want to bother with paying for it and just in case I need to patch something onto it but it seems like we will need to migrate
ah thats it, were just wondering last week when i seen its not purchable anymore. Now are Oraxen and Itemsadder not Purchable...perfect, i needed at least one of them in like 5 days ._. Ty for Resolving the Mystery xD
I've not deleted your comment, though I also don't see any other comment from you on my channel. RUclips automod is well known for blocking large comments/comments containing certain words. Maybe that's what happened? Feel free to resend your command if you feel like it
It's very sad Th0rgal wanted it this way. He'll never be able to make it as popular as it was before, and this wasn't needed. As staff member of a big server using Oraxen, I can say things aren't looking well now and we'll have to find other solutions. I have faith though, that Nexo will be as good, or even better then Oraxen.
@@AyotlKT this has nothing to do with keeping you safe though? and modrinths focus is mods, not plugins, unlike spigot which is a plugin hub and forum among other things
@KasaiSora You're doing an amazing work! I'm soon starting to make youtube videos as well and would like to ask you if you got any tips on how to get better at creating those. Would it be possible to add you on Discord to exchange some knowledge? That would be extremely awesome!
This is literally not thorgals project anymore. He left the plugin. The state of boy's Oraxen is not comparable with thogals Oraxen. How could the Spigot team and md_5 side with thorgal??
Because it belongs to thorgal. He started the project and boy just build on it. He should have just started its own project and not do all that stupid takeover stuff
I used Oraxen and even reported bugs around 2-3 years on my server. I thought it is open source, but it is source available so fork solution will not work. Making FOSS alternative is the better way, however, even better way would be to play and contribute to Luanti as it is FOSS and mods are loaded from server. Now, I mainly play only Luanti since it is truly cross platform and very easily moddable.
@@NeoAxiom FOSS is Free and Open Source software. Basically software that is free for you to download/use and you can find the source code to change how the program works if you have the skills
@@ali_the_grass_block congrats your family heirlooms now belong to a group of burglars because their collective opinions outweigh your one and now they are on their merry way with grandpappys ashes
UPDATE
Upon checking this morning, Oraxen seems to have been deleted from Polymart: bsky.app/profile/kasai.gg/post/3lbmbucw42k2h
After doing some digging, it turns out the Polymart staff team have hidden the project: bsky.app/profile/kasai.gg/post/3lbmh27pm2s2z
hi
Me watching this whilst never hearing about Oraxen before: hmmm interesting.
You never? Damnn!
Same 😅
how?
Talking about effective thumbnail
@@bingzhewho nah I just watch all kasaisora videos no matter the topic
Unfortunately, Boy should have made his own resource from the start to avoid this issue altogether. But, that said, how dare this thorgal have the audacity to wait 3 years for someone to build their project up to the heights it is today and then forcefully take it over.
It's nice to have a video explaining the situation. I did notice the massive flood of negative reviews on Spigot, which was the biggest surprise to me.
Actually crazy that stuff like this happens...
Absolutely!
Excited for Nexo and I hope i will get a Free copy! 💚
Same man! Nexo sounds like it's gonna be fire! ❤️
He said that he'll be trying to give everyone who bought Oraxen a free copy of Nexo after speaking to the responsible people at SpigotMC and Polymart.
@@KasaiSoraI'm sure it will be awesome 😊
It was idiotic of Boy just thinking that he could grab someones project and continue it how he wants.
It wasnt his and he just snatched the code without checking any licenses etc.
Should have just forked it or build it from the ground up.
as per one of th0rgals comments on the issue, they had an agreement it wasn't just boy grabbing someone elses project, they had an agreement for boy to maintain it together
th0rgal:
When I started university, I had less time to focus on Oraxen. To show appreciation, I offered to share profits with one of the maintainers who had been contributing voluntarily. Over time, this evolved into a very generous agreement where he received 80% of the plugin's revenue in exchange for maintaining it.
Shame for Th0rgal that want to take over again after it was abandoned 3 years ago. I really thought that Boy is the owner because of his hard works
Most poeple did! And honesly Boy has been the owner and sole dev for these past 3 years. He made the plugin to what it is today. It's not fair for the OG dev to just take it back and strip Boy of everything
unfortunately hard work does not mean you own someone elses creation
New plan Now Th0rgal is my target.
Oh my 🫢
what the-
The developer should just make his own Oraxen, and license it under GPL V2 / V3. or another open source license. To prevent this from happening
Also dont know why the hell you would ever develop for a plugin that has such a terrible license, the original copyright owner literally owns any modifications of the work... So technically, he literally owns years of work boy0000 did. As he was contributing improvements to Oraxen.
It feels like there is new Minecraft drama every other week!
9:20 I am in video :D
How did that even happen
I guess Th0rgal saw the success of Oraxen and wanted in, so took it back by force
2020 is 5 years ago now wow time really passes.
Make a video about how surfhosting discord got nuked
Wait it did?!?
@@KasaiSora Just did today like 2 hours ago
@@Qssaf send the discord link
What the fuck? I am a customer there, I just woke up, and didn't know that! What the hell?
@@KasaiSorayeah I’m a partner and they have to rebuild their server
0:15 They mispelt "It's". Reason enough for me to not use Oraxen.
Ive been Doing Minecraft dev for over 7 years servers and the what not, and never once hurd of Oraxen, does anyone have a link to the new Server plugin the one talked about in this video from Boy0000!?
I'm using a self compiled oraxen copy on my server because we didn't want to bother with paying for it and just in case I need to patch something onto it but it seems like we will need to migrate
ah thats it, were just wondering last week when i seen its not purchable anymore. Now are Oraxen and Itemsadder not Purchable...perfect, i needed at least one of them in like 5 days ._.
Ty for Resolving the Mystery xD
Item added was made free on built by bit for a month until it com3s back in January
Don’t even know what Oraxen was!😂
I switched from oraxen to itemsadder a few weeks ago and now this happens lmao
Under 30 Minutes! Great vid!
Letsgooo Ted ❤️
Thanks, now I actually understand this whole thing
@KasaiSora Have you reached out to Thorgul at all?
wHEN next stream?
Next week I'll be back!
alright
Would it be possible to add subtitles for the Czech Republic? Since I’m not American, I have a really hard time understanding your videos. ❤
I had no idea about this drama
Idk what oraxen is but this is very interesting
Soo Underrated love u!
Thankyouuu ❤️
did someone say drama?
why did you delete my previous comment?
I was just posting of his side of the story, and that's wrong ?
I've not deleted your comment, though I also don't see any other comment from you on my channel. RUclips automod is well known for blocking large comments/comments containing certain words. Maybe that's what happened? Feel free to resend your command if you feel like it
It's very sad Th0rgal wanted it this way. He'll never be able to make it as popular as it was before, and this wasn't needed. As staff member of a big server using Oraxen, I can say things aren't looking well now and we'll have to find other solutions. I have faith though, that Nexo will be as good, or even better then Oraxen.
HI KASAISORA!!!
Hi mate!
Love from India 🇮🇳
Nexo will be 1000 times better once I finish my Nexo Pack Builder app, won't need to touch any yaml files in your life. Not supporting Oraxen
modrinth >>> spigot
@@AyotlKT thats like comparing apples to dinosaurs
@@ivqry12 why would you want an apple when you can have a dinosaur?
@@AyotlKT two very different things, with two different purposes. having one would not solve the other.
@@ivqry12 a dinosaur can get as many apples as you want and keep you safe
@@AyotlKT this has nothing to do with keeping you safe though? and modrinths focus is mods, not plugins, unlike spigot which is a plugin hub and forum among other things
39 SECONDS LOLLLLLLLL
*boy.*
that's.. absolutely disgusting. and all about money, as usual. Th0rgal is french btw :(
i dont think i like the new owner
42 SECONDS
Crazyyyy
kasai pls explain to me
Explain what?
@@KasaiSora how you manage to have that funky voice
hello
Hi mate!
so good to be early
Thanks for being early!! ❤️
looks like spigot is sadly bad plantform...
boy
Hi
Hi there mate 👋
@KasaiSora You're doing an amazing work! I'm soon starting to make youtube videos as well and would like to ask you if you got any tips on how to get better at creating those. Would it be possible to add you on Discord to exchange some knowledge? That would be extremely awesome!
This is literally not thorgals project anymore. He left the plugin. The state of boy's Oraxen is not comparable with thogals Oraxen. How could the Spigot team and md_5 side with thorgal??
Because it belongs to thorgal. He started the project and boy just build on it. He should have just started its own project and not do all that stupid takeover stuff
I have a question -->
Is it possible to make a server like hypixel if i m a millionaire?
@@phoenixop9573 yes. Hire developers, have some idea about how to maintain a business. Learn some stuff and team management. And invest PROPERLY.
I used Oraxen and even reported bugs around 2-3 years on my server. I thought it is open source, but it is source available so fork solution will not work. Making FOSS alternative is the better way, however, even better way would be to play and contribute to Luanti as it is FOSS and mods are loaded from server. Now, I mainly play only Luanti since it is truly cross platform and very easily moddable.
What is FOSS I can’t find anything on it
@@NeoAxiom FOSS is Free and Open Source software. Basically software that is free for you to download/use and you can find the source code to change how the program works if you have the skills
@@crushfruits2660 Bruh I thought it was a specific software name. I'm in IT and i've never heard that acronym
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Say hi
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Everyone should just pirate it until it's returned to boy
Why are people so awful!!!!!
what a terrible thing for Thorgal to do to Boy
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Thorgal really played dirty in here, he should just accept that this world doesn't want him to own the plugin anymore.
Thats not how it works. He owns it. It's his property. Public oppinion doesnt void your property
@felixbemme7257 well that's sadly the truth :/
@@ali_the_grass_blockits not sadly at all that would be a horrid world to live in
@@TheJinx64 I mean like what could possibly go wrong? :D
@@ali_the_grass_block congrats your family heirlooms now belong to a group of burglars because their collective opinions outweigh your one and now they are on their merry way with grandpappys ashes