WiiM Pro Music Streamer Could Be "The Product Of The Year"
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2023
- WiiM Pro Music Streamer
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Price: 150 USD (Jun,2023)
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Great review - thank you for all the details.
Cannot agree more, perhaps the product of the year! What a fantastic deal and stupendous sound with external DAC. I believe I also got subtle improvements using a low noise iFi wall power module and the iFi ETH filter to optically couple the ETH router source to the streamer. I have such respect for you and your channel. Great review of the software which is such a bonus. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for sharing.
I use the Wiim mini with the Denafrips Pontus II. Just fabulous.
Nice device, also have the WiiM mini and it's a great budget device.
An absolute bargain and one of my favorite purchases for my headphone stack 👍🍕🤷🏻♂️
I run Roon (incl. Tidal) over $40 Chromecast audio units around my house with external DACs. I'm open to upgrades but I don't want to use a separate app.
Hello...nice review, I have Wiim pro, via coax out to Marantz hd dac1, via analog out to my amp Musical fidelity m5 si, with b&w 703 s2....Today i get ifi I power mkIi..., and I can say it is a big difference in sound...really big improvement...very satisfied....
Yes I’m going to review iFi power supply soon, thanks for sharing.
Nice review! This little device compares favorably to building a Raspberry Pi based streamer (which would end up costing about $300). And if you are going to use a better external DAC, would you really gain any better sound quality with one of the new low-cost, $500 USD streamers by NAD or Cambridge Audio? Wow, you got a summertime haircut!
Just replaced my ZEN Stream with this unit. Running both with a quality power supply and external DAC I could not tell them apart. Wonderful to have Chromecast and a streamer that works without glitches! The TOS input is a welcome bonus.....
Thanks for the review.....
Thanks for sharing.
Did you find any bug on Wiim Pro? Zen Stream drove me nuts.
@@newkid7 Nope.
Man I wish it had a USB out for native DSD playback! It's the only thing it's lacking imo.
Great review, I’ve been impressed with the Mini and not trying the Pro. Node killer for sure. also love that white audio rack in the clip. Can you pls share brand & where to buy? Thanks!
I've had the Wiim Pro for 4 months, connected via coax out to a SMSL SU-9n DAC, and stream Apple Music via AirPlay or Chromecast. Easy to use and set up, and plenty of input and output options. Very satisfied with it.
Is streaming apple music via chromecast hi-res/lossless when using android phone?
I currently have the Pro+, still in my testing setup. Currently thinking of buying an external dac in the pricerange of indeed Su9. Was there a big difference in instrumental placement and soundstage?
@@ThePupilyou probably won’t notice an improvement in sound with an external DAC. If I were to connect with an external DAC it would be one with a display screen so I can monitor the bit rate it’s converting.
I use the Pro Plus. Best DAC. It’s my end game DAC
WiiM Mini here... Circa 2017 Zu Omen Dirty Weekend speakers, a vintage, circa 1969 Sansui 2000 stereo receiver and the WiiM Mini as a Preamp/DAC/Streamer. I cannot get over the sound this setup puts out. I am, and continue to be blown away with the sound coming out of that old Sansui with the WiiM. Synergy, this gear has synergy. I will not say what gear I have had and have right now, as I would probably be attacked. But, I could easily part with it all and stick with this setup. I have $1300 invested in the actual gear. The Zu's and Sansui, I bought used, paid $74 for the WiiM, I will pick up a Pro for the software functions later.
I never thought I would get this much sound out of this stupid little puck, especially the DAC after all of the reviews I have heard and read that were not very nice to it. What pulls all of this together, is the WiiM EQ, if not for that, I would have sent it back. The EQ takes the WiiM and my system to another plane in regards to sound. The detail is there, and easily dialed in. The natural sounding tubiness of the Sansui is still there. The Bass, I have two SVS SB-3000 subs in the house, I have turned them off. Voicing, horns, strings, etc, no sibilance, no harshness or digital glare. And as Tharbamar stated, the WiiM is DEAD SILENT, even on this old Sansui. I am now officially a fanboy. I even cancelled my order for that new EverSolo streamer... I can live with this system.
What higher quality DAC you can suggest that matches perfectly with this WIIM PRO? Thanks
Apple music a bit tricky based on my readings you can only output apple lossless hi res when sending it to airplay2 or iphone/pad/laptop direct connection to ext dac. Will sending it to chromecast via smart tv then optical connection to my denon pma 600ne and using its internal dac do the trick in achieving lossless hi res output?
they were supposed to have Roon readiness by the end of second quarter and is still not there
I have the SMSL SU 1 and the WiiM Pro. I swapped out my Schiit Modi for the SU 1 on my main system and used the Modi with the WiiM Pro. External DAC is a must. Great review.
I also run WiiM pro with the SMSL SU-1. Hard to go wrong with that combo. Struggled with some noise, until I realized it was the USB power adapter, so keep that in mind.
WiiM Pro + Schiit Modi3E + Topping P50 power supply + Rotel A11 Tribute + Elac Unifi Reference.
To me the SU-1 is a bit bloomy and not so clean as the Schiit Modi3E.
Very good combination.
WIIM PRO to e30 or tone 2 pro mqa or an antique audio alchemy DTI PRO/DDE 3.0 All sound different.
Now there's a Wiim Pro Plus
I just bought this . I have a Yamaha Amp , Techniques turntable and Bowers and Wilkins speakers. I have an android phone and am a RUclips Music user. Can I hook this straight into my amp and connect my home WiFi to the Wiim, then stream from my phone using RUclips Music?
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Very good review!!! Do you think there is difference between streamers in digital out?
Hi, sound quality of the streamers from digital out should be very much comparable in technical stand point regardless of the price, most likely higher price ones may have better noise performance, thanks
Good news
Wiim pro got ROON ready now!
Hi Tharbamar. I noticed you DIY speaker and power cables, but not interconnect. I’m wondering why not. Or is it coming up soon in a future video? Thank you.
I did A few years back,
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Very nice review. Little disappointed to see that you didn’t use nicer isolation feet.
Can I pair this to topping e50 and smsl da9 amp?
So if you have to add a DAC then it’s good. Everything seems better when you add an external DAC when starting with sub-par parts in low price items. As is it cost $150 then add $100 DAC for better sound.
Right now I use Gustard A26 DAC with Roon. Significantly more expensive
A smart tv with google tv should have it all.
Just got my Wiim Pro to place Zen Stream, what I've noticed is it's much more responsive, not sure if it's because of Roon Ready, but it's much faster to shuffle songs, like no delay. While Zen Stream slow to power on, laggy playback, occasional problems here and there, I'm happy to go with Wiim Pro, listening experience improved a lot, not saying sonically Wiim Pro is better but overall experience outclass Zen Stream. I think being an affordable product Wiim Pro should ditch the DAC make it steam only, but TBH if Miim Mini is Roon Ready with bigger ram I'm happy to downgrade to that little box.
I`m gonna replace my old Denon DNP730 for the same rerason - sudden death, stop streaming, common buffering et etc.
Perfect. Thank you for the review. If I just planned to use only as a streamer through my outboard dac, a Pontus 2. Will there be any benefit using the Wiim Pro over the Wiim Mini? I do currently own the Mini so my question, if used as just a streamer into my own dac is the Pro an upgrade over the Mini, again using it only with my own dac?
Either one will be totally fine as digital transport, WiiM Pro is slightly better in dynamic range. Thanks
@@TharbamarThank you!
How much of an upgrade would this be from a Chromecast Audio? It would obviously mean I could use other sources like AirPlay but would it sound any better?
Airplay should be a last resort. I thought I would use it when I got my WiiM Pro but the lag/latency makes the user experience frustrating and the sound quality is significantly reduced from any wifi based option.
I now have a reason to buy a pair of $1k HiFiman Arya headphones. I bought the same several weeks back for headphone system: Wiim Pro -> SMSL SU-1 -> Ifi Zen Can headphone amp -> Drop 6xx (and HD600) headphones. It sounds quite awesome! I can tell my headphones are now the bottleneck. I do head a bit of hiss streaming from Tidal.
An exemplary critique! My integrated amplifier houses an excellent digital-to-analog converter of substantial quality. Would it be accurate, given this context, to posit that the WIIM Pro represents the most advantageous acquisition for my specific application compared to bluesound?
Probably most bang for your money with WiiM Pro over any other brand if you have quality DAC, thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you!
Nice review man , i have to ask u if the Wiim streamer can replace equally or better a good laptop with the latest Jriver in terms of sound quality ?
Thanks, I do not use Jriver but personally I prefer Audirvana & MacBook Pro for bit perfect sound with quieter background.
@@Tharbamar The wiimm does not support bit perfect transmission via coaxial cable ?
Having using it for a while, recently it's software got crazy. Everything is upside down. Impossible to operate. Sent an email to their support with no reply from them. Is anyone encountered such a problem?
Hi! First of all, thank you so much for all the details. Right now I have a node x through the fiio k9 pro ess just for headphones auditions. And I would like to add to my focal aria 948 system with Pioneer c73 and m73 pre and power amps the eversolo. I have reserved the A8 at my local dealer, but now I’m wondering if I should go with the A6 and upgraded power source from beatechnick. What would you choose to have the best sound quality? Should I stick to the A8? Are there any other alternatives in this price range? I heard about the Lumin D3 but it is a little bit pricier here than the A8. Thank you so much and all the best!
If you want to brings the best sound quality out of your system you should go with A8 because DSP is bigger different maker in sound than any upgrades you can do with A6 or spend more money on D3. Thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you so much! It really helps in my decision. Let’s hope for the best with the A8.
@@Tharbamar Hi again! Just one more question, since I still found it hard to decide. I was looking these days at the Naim Uniti Atom Headphone Edition, but also I hear a lot of good things about the Gustard R26. Just fot streaming Tidal only, what would be the best choice in terms of sound quality. In the end, that’s what I’m looking for. Best sound for streaming. Thank you so much!
Please do a review of the new wiim pro plus vs the pro
Sorry no plans at this time, thanks
Can anyone comment on if there is sound quality improvements over WIIM mini?
Actually I have the Pro. I have had the mini. No sonic differences....The Pro seems to be faster and a the classic Rca input/output are more convenient for me.
So what you are saying is buy the WiiM Pro, SMSL SU-1, with a Fosi v3 amp and you have a killer system for $300 ie. giant killer?
I have that exact set up and it is truly fantastic!
Is it safe to connect the Wiim Pro Plus to a power amp? Is there any risk of damaging speakers if the power amp does not have a volume control?
WiiM Pro App have built-in volume control.
Have you checked whats the Audio Quality ( max Bit rate & Sampling rate )
Highest resolution was 24/192K streaming from Amazon UHD or Qobuz, thanks
Add a dejitter re-clocker between the WiiM and the DAC - your bass attack will improve.
Hi, which ddc do you use? thanks for info in advance,
What one do you suggest
@@briancampbell7712 use ifi spdif purifier 2
Usually good dac has internal re-clocker....
@@68surfboy ture, you also want to give it a good signal to reclock
Great review! Do you think there is much difference in sound quality vs the Wiim Mini? or its just the features? Do you know if they are using the same internal DAC? Thanks!
Should be the same technically but I haven’t tried them back to back to answer your question correctly.
Did you notice any difference using optical vs coax output?
Yes, I'd prefers COAX when using with my reference DAC, thanks
just buy an Android Meecool GT-king TV box and stream Tidal from CromeCast thats built into it...using your phone as the remote...48k from my Oled optical output to the R26 to my Vincent SV-737 amp...🎶🎶🎶
Hi..would combo wiim pro via coax out to Marantz hd dac1 via rca out on musical fidelity m5si with qa 3050i speakers be ok?
Ty
Yes definitely.
@@Tharbamar ty
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Always good to have an extra kidney standing by..
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Hello does this streamer support tidal connect?
Yes it does.
Thank you very much for the answer. I am undecided between two streamers, wiimpro and ifi zen streamer. I lean more towards ifi zen streamer. What do you think, is there any difference between all these streamers (not only ifi and wiimpro) and whether it really mostly depends on the DAC to which you connect the streamer. What affects the sound quality of the streamer itself the most?
Using a 5v power bank instead of wall wart power supply is a big upgrade.
do you mean ditching the power supply that comes with the unit?
Yes, run it off pure DC. A power bank is the ultimate LPS.
You dont EVER switch it off?
Beware off the allways workink microphone.
I’d just put piece of thick tape on and it always sits deepest part of the cabinet. Thanks
Can i use wiim pro with via optical?
Yes
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You would offer more value if you did an AB versus a competitor.
Will do, thanks
Let's create a budget quality system.
Wiim pro
Smsl su1 DAC
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Meu amigo boa noite comprei um wiim pro e estou quebrando a cabeça pois nao consigo ligar o led do aparelho sera que pode me ajudar ja fiz de tudo ,ate mandei um email para a empresa mais ainda nao tive retorno ,sera que com seu conhecimento tecnico e profissional pode me ajudar .Obrigado e no aguardo são paulo brasil.
In the App device settings -> Hardware-> Toggle Status Light.
i like ChromeCast the best to stream Tidal to R26 to amp
You don’t like Roon?
@@Tharbamar
i hear so many people use roon...i keep it simple and tidal works... isn't room for people that stream from different files and maybe their PC
r26 has chromecast? didn't know that. any updates on other streaming features?
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh no...the R26 does not have ChromeCast...Android TV boxes, stand alone chromcast device , some smart tv's...anything saying it has built on chromecast...the reason ChromeCast is so good is that your phone only acts as a remote...it streams straight from Tidal servers...not third party apps so it streams 48k instead of 44.1k...so many streamers in this billion dlollar industry have there own app...and that is what is connecting to music streaming service...people dont understand that...i was one of them🤣music sounds so much better this way...ChromeCast is built into my Android meecool GT-king...Box
@briancampbell7712
Personally I no longer use Roon, I liked R26+Audirvana+MacBook Pro paring too.,
external PSU?
I tried liner power supply and it did improve a lot.
@@jkim4712 which one, so money good spent? Please more details
Just thinking, sonos is just as ecpensive
Not at all. Heard it. Then I heard my Limetree Lindemann Bridge. Worlds apart. Thanks for helping show small cheap products.
Not world apart, just about $800 apart.
the real question is, is it worth it if you’re going to use it with external DAC?
Another question is why would anyone pay a lot more money for lesser performing product in general?
@@Tharbamar yes. Both these options went into my RME ADI 2. There’s an audible difference between this little doohickey, then Bluesound Node, then Limetree. All with external LPS, which itself makes a massive diff.
I see, basically the sound difference is from FPGA programming other than pure digital signal processing.
I could not disagree more. The Wiim Pro is a $150 paperweight. Total Disappointment. Connected my turntable per the instructions, and could only play it on a single echo. Was hoping for whole house play as promised by Wiim. After that failure, I tried streaming Amazon Music and Spotify to my Echo speakers around the house. Another huge fail. It didn't play at all. I'm shocked no one has come up with a way to play a turntable across a home network.