Hello, Im sure we have all enjoyed this wonderful movie, whether it be Dubbed or Subbed. It doesn't matter to me what version you prefer, but lets take a step back for a moment shall we? We all know Nishimiya, the sweet young lady who is deaf. And im sure we all know what her voice sounds like. Some say its beautiful, others say it sucks for not not being "realistic". Well, the truth is...this IS what they sound like. I am aware that her Japanese VA is not deaf, but she did a fucking wonderful job at making it seem like she was! In English however, she is voiced by someone who is deaf. "But if shes deaf, how can she speak?" There are people who are 100% deaf and cannot hear anything. There are some who still can hear, but use hearing aids. For those who can hear, it sounds way different than what we normally hear. Hence why its called a "Deaf Accent". Everyone is different and unique in their own way. Thank you~*
I think the complaint is not as much that it "didn't sound realistic" as much as it didn't have the same strained and remorseful feel and effect that the japanese VA conveyed in her "I'm sorry." While I am aware that there are many deaf individuals that can speak fairly well, the japanese version pushed the difficulty in her speech to the limits and made for a more emotional scene. I still cried at both actor's performances but if I was to say which had a stronger impact it would be the japanese for really driving home that she is deaf.
Starie Tiger well, lest we try our best to remember the whole infamy known as Chuunibiyou English dub, which gave birth to negative sentiments towards English dubs to the point where removing them is the ultimate goal to the peaceful community
Starie Tiger I watched Spec Ops The Line, GTA IV, Ace Combat Zero : The Belkan War walkthroughs just to get myself to be able to tolerate that dub myself, and thanks to that dub I've think it's kind of a last straw to anime community in general against English dubs and that's why I (used to) believe that removal of all English dubbing in anime is the ultimate goal to end this whole pointless argument once and for all and I wouldn't hesitate to do so, even by all means well respected dubs like Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist, Ghost Stories, Black Lagoon, Haruhi Suzumiya (my personal best dubbed anime of all time), and countless others have to be sacrificed on process
Starie Tiger I'm aware of that dub, but I'm a guy who has a rather odd taste in anime, my personally approved dubs was Haruhi, Charlotte, Ergo Proxy, Black Lagoon, Space Dandy, and to an lesser extent, Golgo 13 I'm currently on my way watching Gundam Unicorn whilst waiting for Chuunibiyou Take On Me movie (both sub and dub), and my impression is that dub was rather good so far
Melon Tart Damn, I haven't even watch the movie yet. I think it also has to do with the environment. I have been in primary school for 3 year and high school for 2 year. Never once have I been bullied nor witness any bullying. I only heard of it from the Internet and health class. This is a private high school I am entering.
I'm a Vegetable why don't try to take that anger out with some kind of hobby or exercise? Talking or even just writing about it can be helpful in some way. Don't hate yourself, everyone has a part of ourselves that we don't like, but that doesn't mean we have to only concentrate on that. Yes, we should try to better ourselves but that's not all we are.
There is no victim play going on here. People actually want to help other people and aren't interested in being victims, which is how people used to live. Regardless of the circumstances in your life, you can control how you live. Living as a victim is not really living at all.
As a Survivor, I think the author was trying to make the point (non-judgmentally) that excessive passivity is also not an ideal response to bullying. By seeing herself as only a victim who is only a negative drain on others she reached the faulty conclusion that the world would be better off if she killed herself. This is of course absurd, because there are people in the world who cared about her and who would be deeply emotionally scarred if she had succeeded. She couldn't recognise this though, because she could only see herself as a victim, not as a human being who is loved by others.
By the way, in the Japanese version, Ueno tells Nishimiya’s mother; “If you can’t bring up a child properly, you shouldn’t have given birth to her in the first place.” Let that sink in that Ueno had the nerve to tell Nishimiya’s mother that Nishimiya was better off not being alive/born because of her defect and that her mother couldn’t raise her “properly”. Another thing to consider is that Nishimiya’s father left because he found out she was born deaf.
「ジュリア」 that’s not that crazy. It was obviously through anger, because the person she loved is in a coma for saving her life. No matter what, everyone who loves the MC what Ueno said is in the back of their head. Why did he have to be in a coma to save a suicidle girl. But no one would say it but she has the bitchy attitude to do so. If you watched anohano Menma’s mom, but then having an actual good reason instead of just fuck you for living. But I get what you mean Ueno saying that is just stupid af like Ik she was thinking that she was one of the reasons to why she attempted suicide. And then said that.
I hate that girl with long black hair because she ignored that lady's son because she was also involved in bullying that girl who can't hear. She comes back like nothing happen who does she think she is. Talking about the girl who was bullying that girl with badges.
She did not change at all through the movie. Always stayed the bitch she was. Besides when Shoko was transferred to another school, Ueno(the black haired girl) was bullying Ishida(who she actually loved ) together with his former friends. This is a lecture for everyone in life. Your best friends can turn on you and become your worst enemies. This movie is realistic as it can get.
Prince Desperado you are so right, but still trusting your friend's because you actually believe in them so much it's always best to have someone who will listen to your worry's and other things. That's how bonds get stronger, so they don't break easily.
My profile picture is not saber, its violet oh hell nah. It's true that you change because your Friends but you can still Decide How the fuck you are to others. She's such a bitch and I really can not stand it How she's acting in Front of shoko.
Magane Chikujouin that's why funimation hired her. They wanted a deaf girl to voice the character, which I think is respectful. They could've been cheap and had someone they worked with for years do it, but they decided to show respect for the condition.
The Japanese VA for her WAS faking it. The dub VA is actually deaf. Which is why all these people saying Shouko's dub voice sounds "wrong" tick me the fudge off. My Brother's deaf, and he's never heard what his own voice sounds like, so pardon him if he sounds "funny." Frappin' subbers.
TheBigHurt I normally dont give a hoot about people posting their opinions about dub vs sub. But hating on Nishimiyas (dub) voice because of how she sounds? This is what those who cannot hear sound like!
The fact that Ueno never gets a proper comeuppance makes me so upset. I've never seen an anime where a villian gets no punishment or at least is told off for all the terrible things they do. ONCE, just once, Ueno needed to have been put in her place and learn that pushing problems on everyone else isn't going to fix your life.
Yeah, Ueno deserves a very big nosebleed to know how it feels like to endure so much pain and suffering she caused a poor deaf girl that she hates out of petty, asshole, selfish reasons that defines bullies as the ignorant, sad, pathetic cowards they are and need a hard dose of reality punch in their face if soft words and reasoning don't get through to them. And worse is Ueno acts like she is in the right in her actions, when in truth, the world would be better off without the existence of cowards like her.
@@Firechick12012 To be fair, Shouko hated herself fir her deafness even before she was bullied; her fight with Shouya was her letting her stress out. And Ueno did the right thing by never talking to Shouko again after the 'idiot" signing.
Well Shoko did call her a Moron ( while teaching her the sign for it ) she did it to tease her and Ueno storms off. So I guess it some justice or the fact Shoko isn’t letting Ueno hurt her anymore.
Ueno has the audacity to tell shouko that she is the most selfish person she knows, while she is bullying someone for her own pleasure, saying that shouko is always acting like the victim while shouko IS the victim...and all these years to grow and mature up, she still stayed the same, not wanting to change, absolutely unacceptable...
She didn’t bully shoko for pleasure.... did you try understanding her reasoning at all? I’m not saying it’s right, but try understanding her reasoning for bullying shoko, instead of coming and typing that she bullied her for fun
@@guts5101 either way her reasoning doesn’t even matter for the shit that she made shouko go through like damn😭😭 she was just as worse or even more worse than the rest
It's so annoying to me so many people think Ueno is relatable or realistic. There are so many people that talk about this movie and say Ueno's actions were acceptable and they understand why she acted like that. She was a bully and if you find her a relatable character then you're probably not a great person.
She is relatable and realistic and listen to what I'm going to say because I know that sounds really bad at first. Her entire character is kind of the human embodiment of spite. She started off bullying her because she wanted to impress the guy she liked and she never got any repercussions for doing that. And as soon as she realized that it wasn't impressing him anymore she switched gears completely. It was a jealousy thing. She's relatable because the boy she's been in love with since childhood is clearly in love with someone else and so she's spiteful. But what's realistic about her character is that she takes her anger and self-hatred out on other people and that is something that a lot of people do. and I also hate when people say that she didn't get enough punishment for what she did but I strongly disagree with that. Seeing the boy that you've been in love with since the age of like 12 fall in love with someone who you thought he hated is punishment enough for bullying someone. And another thing to consider is she went through character development it just wasn't as obvious as everyone else is. That kawaii bitch on the other hand...
her actions aren't acceptable, but they are realistic to certain types of people If you watch the fireworks scene when everyone is watching them, you can see her standing there next to an older man in a military uniform and no mother with a bunch of kids So she's probably got a hardass dad and defends her siblings. She doesn't hate Shouko just cuz she's a big bully, she hates her because she blames her for Shoya's misery. And probably blames herself for getting away with the bullying but Shoya had to pay for all their crimes. So it makes her hate Shouko even more for coming into their lives in the first place. Humans don't like trauma, and she doesn't want to face the turmoil in her mind so her brain justifies whatever blame it can put onto Shouko instead to hide her own pains. It's by no means healthy, or right. But I've seen people react that way quite a bit, it's a very human thing to do. Nobody wakes up and thinks "oh boy! I'm gonna go and victim blame a suicidal person" It's an unhealthy coping mechanism. So in a way I pity her, her big sister instincts, protective nature and feeling helpless to save her friend Shoya who's just a shell of himself she use to know that's why she tried to do the whole hearing aid stealing thing again in the scene she sees Shoya again, she desperately wants the old Shoya back. That spunky, headstrong kid she grew up with, not this timid fragile looking person who's just only recently recovering from almost completely shattering. "how dare this stupid deaf girl suck Shoya into her hole, almost got him killed because of her problems. Doesn't she know she's already put him through enough??"
I don’t condone what she did but I do feel bad for her in this situation. If my friend almost died because of someone I would have probably acted out too
Ueno is shameless . Glad in my 22 years of life I never met such pure evil , don't know why her fans say she's relatable when actually the bitchest of them all who I have might encountered in life would never beat a disabled person for any reason let alone for a guys attention
She's the reason people with disabilities are attacked so easily for cowards and bitches like her to stroke their own ego, look superior, and act all high and mighty by shaming and degrading others who are not like them.
reem AA Some people call her relatable because she picks on a kid with disability to 1.look cool and strong 2. Take anger on the weak 3. Is a jealous bitc-
@@sharknom4131 Ueno is the biggest coward of all in this film, proving she is also the weakest and most pathetic human there ever was, caring not for anyone but herself.
I hate ueno and Kawaii, uneo was selfish and rude and kawaii was a bitch and act like she didn’t even bully her, she would laugh when ueno said bad things about her, she never once stood up for her
“this is the first time in my life that i’ve ever been provoked to hit a woman” no lie though, i don’t think i’ve ever HATED an anime character more than ueno
YurigaGTR you could bring check out the life and second life it's a program that you can make anything come to life even so come the only reason I'm suggesting that is because I want to see a show go come to life in Second Life shogo is a great artist of a cartoon and I wish that more show Go cartoons out of most of the other stuff I'm sorry but I am not a fan of principal princess it's supposed to be a great series and a good education show for America
Princess whatever sucks I don't care I know what I see show goes better it always has been and unfortunately people are going to see things unless you force them to look at the truth I've watched and I make my whole entire life I know what good it is and shoko is always been good but it's better when it's done by Americans no fence when it's done by their own country they lose the Foster to make sure go good my point is Joker was a great series that should be nurtured and copied and used for more educational purposes of America that's closer we get things to be the closer we can get the children. o
I like how the girl beating her up just puts the blame on her, I mean you bullied her as a kid too and made her depressed and made her try to commit suicide. Always hated that character.
I don't think the bullying is what made her depressed. I think what made her depressed is the fact that she felt like she was a burden. Not completely but it was a mixture of both.
Funny cuz she is a traditional tsundere and one of the most realistic representations of one. Meanwhile Tsundere is one of the most popular archetypes...
@@Lukavoidd she VERY much contributed to it, taking part in stealing her hearing aids and other abusive bully methods. She also prevented others from getting close to Shouko and becoming friends, like what she did to Miyoko.
That’s because the voice actor for Shouya is actually deaf. I want a sequel so bad. I’m just dying on the inside thinking about how that can happen to anyone.
Ueno it's just terrible. She also bullied Nishimiya for a long time and when the consequences where coming she said she did not and tried to make herself innocent. When she saw Nishimiya again she just tried to bully her once more for "the old times sake". She acted ridiculously friendly just to then say _it's your fault we aren't friends anymore,Nishimiya. It's your fault for not being "normal"_ and just acted cruel. She kept Nishimiya away all the time she could. Honestly Nishimiya could've stopped at any moment,learning Ueno wasn't worth it... But didn't. She kept being kind even if Ueno didn't really deserved that kindness. And this scene is just... I hated her the most there. I saw the movie subbed and Ueno says something _if you can't raise your daughter right then you shouldn't had gave birth to her to begin with_ or well kinda like that. Ueno had the nerve of saying Nishimiya didn't deserve to be even born and alive. All because of her deafness.
I think she's realistic because once she realized that her bullying nishimiya didn't impress shoto anymore she switched gears and it became a jealousy thing. She bullied her out of spite and I feel like that's realistic. Also she didn't say that shouya didn't deserve to be alive she said that if she couldn't raise a daughter then don't have one basically. and I think she's right about that but her train of thought was not right. It's like a wrong equation right answer type thing. I don't think the mom is equipped to raise a disabled child because she made her feel like more of a burden then she really is and a big part of shouya's depression was thinking she was a burden to everyone.
What about the girl with the pigtails? Not only did she ever take accountability for the bullying she was a part of, but would sociopathically cry to make herself seem innocent
She felt responsible for Shouya's hospitalization. She felt he only got hurt because she tried to kill herself, because she couldn't speak normally (aka "change"). Although we see it as not being her fault, and in all honesty it isn't, that's not what she thought until her later discussion with Shouya when he reawoke.
I did too. But I do respect what funimation did for Shoko's voice. They hired a deaf girl to voice her instead of getting one of their well-known VAs to do it. So they have my mad respect
Yesika Narvaez it’s uenos fault shouya is in hospital actually. yeah shouko felt like a burden on him in the first place but the ferris wheel scene is what really made her feel like it was necessary to kill her self. if ueno didn’t know when to take a hint and stfu, shouko probably wouldn’t have attempted suicide, and shouya wouldn’t have gone to the hospital.
Eh, can't hate anyone. Haven't watch the movie but read the manga. I understand Ueno and Shouya and Ishida. What surprise me is Shouya seek friendship from a former bully.
Yesika Narvaez How many deaf people do you beat up for just living their lives? Who in the blue hell can stick up for a chick who attacked a deaf woman who felt like she was a burden? How in the hell can you blame the mother who felt powerless in the wake of her daughters issues and her other daughters attempted sucide? Oh no let’s have a fucking pity party for the chick who constantly antagonizes the Deaf girl cause the Guy she “Likes” likes the deaf girl Fuck outta here
Beating an elder person because she's stopping you from hurting her child really shows her character to us. I would literally think 10 times before raising my hands against someone elder than me no matter what the situation (unless its a theft or something like that)
I hope the studio is able to rebuild. They make such beautiful art with such important messages. They treated their staff like gold and the mad man that killed 33 people because of some perceived slight deserves to not win by having it all disappear. Instead, it needs to go on and tragedy remembered but placed in the past.
I’ve heard that Ueno was more developed in the manga but I straight up can’t understand her at all other than she’s just got no sense of empathy for others. The whole movie is about how being a bully affects you when you realize what you’ve done but I never get the understanding what’s going through Ueno’s head or why she thinks she has any right to pull this shit. I know it’s not her movie but a quick scene would have been nice. I mean yeah she says that she hates Shouko for coming into their lives and changing things, that’s how she justifies her feelings but not her actions. We’ve all hated people for petty reasons but Normal people don’t act on these feelings so disgustingly And you’d have to be a psychopath to put so much blame on someone who was just trying to live their life the only way they could and act like you’re own choices didn’t play a part. It wouldn’t bother me so much if it weren’t for the ending where it looks like she’s in their group of friends. Hell no she didn’t earn that. If they were going to change her arc in the manga (assuming there was one) they should have just left her out of the ending scene and gone for the “well some people change and some don’t kind of ending”
Ueno: say something Me: screw you go to hell if you want to fight then let's go after all I am a yellow and trust I won't go easy on you [kicks ueno in the stomach while she throws up ] Me: now if you slap shoko's face again next time I'll beat the shit out you Ueno: 😱 Me: now get out of here before I call the police
I almost cried seeing shokos mom begging forgiveness and crying in front of shoyas mom, I understand the film she hated shoya for what he did to her daughter as a kid, but this scene for her to finally see shoya being a truly kind and apologetic person made her finally forgive him for what he did.
TheBigHurt just a bunch of self entitled weebs that think that anything Japan makes is the greatest fucking thing ever! They love to look down on people that watch anything that’s english and swear that watching subbed makes you a genius because it’s “more authentic”😂😂
says the guy commenting on a movie with entire japanese origins. most likely this movie wouldnt exist if it wasnt for JAPANESE artist and writer. man, some people these days are just so slow and dont know what their talking about. smh.
Well if you hate english voice actors you OBVIOUSLY need to say it on every english dubbed anime video ever created. If you don't you're not a TRUE fan.
Well... I'm going to try to explain Ueno's point of view the best I can, with an approximative english....so...imagine; ''You're in love of a guy, and he sees you as a Friend. One day, he start to play a game and propose you to participate. The game is to make a joke to a classmate, nothing that could be Bad, you think. You follow him, and he looks happy that you do. But the girl who you were making jokes to tells an ''other version'' of the story to the adults, and your crush gets into trubles. Someone asks you if he really made bad things to that girl...and even though you think that people are making a big deal about that, you can't really say no.. and everyone start to hate the guy. He's bullyied, people steal his stuff, adults refuse to help him..and all of this is happening because of the girl who told to the adults another version of the story. Years have passed..and one day, you meet your old crush again. But surprised! He totally forgived the girl and he's even in love with her!! But it's because of that girl if his life was destroyed! If she hadn't be there, he would be with his Friends, and everything would be alright!! You talk with the girl. You try to Say everything you think about her..but she just look at you and say sorry. A Fake ''sorry'' that makes you feel so mad. She destroyed his life, your life, and she act like she didn't Care. She looks like a total hypocrit, and you know that her sorry doesn't mean anything. You feel so bad, you start to get angry and punch her. The guy says that he hates you. He refuse to answer to your messages, and then you learn that he's in a coma because of the girl. Everything is her fault.'' That isn't true at all, of course. I'm not saying that Shouko's the vilain of the story...but...try to see things as Ueno do. She didn't see how much Shouko is nice. She just see a girl with a smile on her face, destroying her and her crush's life.. that's how she see things...that's awful...but that's human..
I hate her too, and that thing regarding Shoko's disability really crossed the line, reminding me how much I hate anyone who attacks and mocks people who suffer from disabilities, conditions, or handicaps that they never asked to have in the first place, or worse, accusing them of using it as a crutch to gain sympathy.
Honestly rewatching this hurts even more after what happened to the studio and especially what happened to the people who created this movie. I'm just crying again.
This movie is absolutely amazing. I can really appreciate the voice acting in both the sub and dubs. It tackles real world issues so well and really puts the viewer in the mind of its characters. As a person who deals with social anxiety as a direct effect from bullying I can really relate with the main character and his issues. I can respect that they added an amazing amount of character development between most of the characters as well. It was nice to see that the main character used to be a bully himself and as a result, he himself got bullied. I’m not saying that that’s a good thing but I’m so happy to see that they added that in. This really does happen and it really does get worse to the point of suicide. It makes you feel like everyone in the world hates you and has no respect for you. Feeling alone, ignored, hated, and all that painful stuff often happens between middle schoolers and high schoolers. Thank you so much for this amazing movie and I hope to see more stuff like this in the future!
Huh, the dub isn’t bad. It’s pretty good, I love the actors for Ishida’s Mom and Shoko’s family, and I’m glad they kept in mind to make Shoko sound deaf. Her actress did well, I still love the sub but now I want to watch it in dub. :)
That dogeza scene made me actually cry during the movie, nothing else. Outside of anime, prostrating yourself before someone on the floor in real-life Japan is just as rare as getting on one's knees in the Western world.
Excuse my dumbness but what you're trying to say is if shouya (the boy) didn't lover her, ueno (the girl who hit shoko) she want shouya to stay in his coma forever?
hey it's jada I don't care about the way the dub sounds either. I don't know why people hate on the dubs . I watched dubs when it comes to certain action anime because I can't read the subtitles and see what's happening at the same time, I'd get lost and just blank out.
hey it's jada I don't care either. But in this movie, I actually prefer this scene over the subbed version. Her final cry was almost a scream, and it really symbolized how much emotion she was holding in. Plus, did you know that the actress for her was deaf in the English version? 😊
Idk how this wasn’t nominated but this movie was so god dam sad and good. And the fact a deaf voice actor played shouko is awesome! Truly an amazing movie
People who are downplaying the dub are insecure elitests, there is so much raw emotion in shoukos cry the VAs on the dub did a fantastic job. Both were great and the movie no matter the language was nothing short of a work of art
Ok people. The fun of Shoko is also a hearing impaired person. Not every deaf people has the same sound. There's do vary from each other and some can speak better while some still struggle very hard to say a few words like the subbed one. So, peace out.
i find it annoying that there are so many people that defend ueno. yes in some way or another she may be realistic but that certainly doesn't make up for everything she did to nishimiya. she literally said to nishimiya's mum that she shouldn't have had nishimiya in the first place. no matter what way you look at it , that is such a disgusting thing to say to someone especially after they just tried to take their own life. ueno is a horrible person and she needs to fix the way she acts. don't excuse her actions because she's ' realistic ' 😐
this movie always gets me. i had a deaf friend who had multiple suicide attempts, but luckily she survived. don’t ever let bully’s get to you. i promise it’ll get better.
I can't believe some people actually defended a bitch like Ueno. Ueno did nothing wrong and she was just influenced? That still doesn't make up to anything. If she really was just influenced, she could've realized that Nishimiya was innocent and would become a better person to her when they've meet again. Instead, she tries to look for excuses to justify what she did with reasons like "I was just telling the truth" or said stuff like "Shoya lost all his friends because of you" or "You're at fault that Shoya's in the hospital". I mean, If she honestly cared for Shoya, she wouldn't leave him in the dust and bullied him. Heck, the time when she sees Shoya again (after she bullied him at grade school) and acted all nice to him as if she was his most loyal friend (including after Nishimiya transferred out) is just irritating. She always think that she's in the right and claims that Nishimiya doesn't try to understand her, whereas Ueno herself doesn't even bother to understand Nishimiya's circumstances (Nishimiya didn't asked to be born deaf) which is kind of hypocritical. And how she even slapped Nishimiya's mother and told her that If she can stand up for her kids, then she shouldn't have kids in the first place (trust me, in most subs this is what she said in Japanese) is just utterly disgusting. And she even locked the Shoya's hospital room as If she gets to decide who can visit him. I'll still hate Ueno, and none of you can make me change my thoughts (sorry If this comment is too long, I just need to vent my feelings off)
I really love how she says that Shoko she is a so selfish, when she did nothing to help Shoya when he was upset. Shoko was actually there and wanted to be his friend. Like she just sounds like a hypocrite
I like what Ueno says in the original better. "If you can't raise a child then dont have one". She wants Shoko to be strong, stand up and stop hating herself. Shes still toxic regardless
Everyone is complaining how she wasn’t punished but this isn’t a fairytale that is divided into black and white. It’s about how bullying and cruelty affect both sides. She is punished by not receiving closure like the others. It’s shows how she never accepts what she did and how it destroys her and her relationships with others like shouya. It’s meant to be a grey story with no heroes or villains. Everyone is an individual with their own insecurities. The difference is shouya actually tries to atone for his mistakes and unlike the girl is rewarded with the not only the his previous victims friendship, but he now not only receives closure but understands her which is what he wanted. It isn’t saying that doing the bad thing will be the end of your world. It is saying that doing the right thing can make your world better. That’s how I understand it. I’d love to hear your opinions.
I also was the one who gets bullied in school I never wanted to pic fight but they insulted me made me cry in front of everyone ,but now I learned so much things,real life does not have the concept of black and white , real life have the concept of grey.
I really glad Shoya save Shoko from falling out the outside the apartment and shoko mom apologize to Shoya mom also Shoko apologize to Shoya but if it wasn't for Shoya then Shoko wouldn't be here right now but i glad Shoya & Shoko are okay also Shoko side by side with Shoya to the very end
The voice actress is actually hearing impaired in real life. She probably is crying, she can’t hear how it sounds though, so it comes off as more of a laugh to people with normal hearing.
Hello,
Im sure we have all enjoyed this wonderful movie, whether it be Dubbed or Subbed. It doesn't matter to me what version you prefer, but lets take a step back for a moment shall we?
We all know Nishimiya, the sweet young lady who is deaf. And im sure we all know what her voice sounds like. Some say its beautiful, others say it sucks for not not being "realistic". Well, the truth is...this IS what they sound like. I am aware that her Japanese VA is not deaf, but she did a fucking wonderful job at making it seem like she was! In English however, she is voiced by someone who is deaf.
"But if shes deaf, how can she speak?"
There are people who are 100% deaf and cannot hear anything. There are some who still can hear, but use hearing aids. For those who can hear, it sounds way different than what we normally hear. Hence why its called a "Deaf Accent".
Everyone is different and unique in their own way.
Thank you~*
I think the complaint is not as much that it "didn't sound realistic" as much as it didn't have the same strained and remorseful feel and effect that the japanese VA conveyed in her "I'm sorry." While I am aware that there are many deaf individuals that can speak fairly well, the japanese version pushed the difficulty in her speech to the limits and made for a more emotional scene. I still cried at both actor's performances but if I was to say which had a stronger impact it would be the japanese for really driving home that she is deaf.
ShutterFlutter this comment gives me more hope in humanity
@@stevenmiranda8912 Theres that as well, but I have seen plenty comments saying that she doesnt sound deaf enough, or not realistic.
My granny's completely deaf and she can talk
And she has alot of deaf friends in which they sound very similier to the VA
Let this all be a reminder that this isn't nominated by the Oscars.
But then, the Oscars suck, so...
Fucking terrible decision
Let's also not forget that The Boss Baby got into Oscar and this beautiful movie didn't
Terrence Noran Neither did In This Corner of the World.
They're both absolute masterpieces that got snubbed.
Tbh boss baby was very good
The dub was amazing. That's an actual deaf woman voicing Shouko too!
They did really well with this. I don't give a SHIT what anyone says!!
Starie Tiger well, lest we try our best to remember the whole infamy known as Chuunibiyou English dub, which gave birth to negative sentiments towards English dubs to the point where removing them is the ultimate goal to the peaceful community
Grip Runner 420 I liked that dub.. Some parts were a bit awkward, but it added to the charm of them ALREADY being awkward with their personas.
Starie Tiger I watched Spec Ops The Line, GTA IV, Ace Combat Zero : The Belkan War walkthroughs just to get myself to be able to tolerate that dub myself, and thanks to that dub I've think it's kind of a last straw to anime community in general against English dubs and that's why I (used to) believe that removal of all English dubbing in anime is the ultimate goal to end this whole pointless argument once and for all
and I wouldn't hesitate to do so, even by all means well respected dubs like Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist, Ghost Stories, Black Lagoon, Haruhi Suzumiya (my personal best dubbed anime of all time), and countless others have to be sacrificed on process
Grip Runner 420 Have you heard of Ghost Stories? If anything that is the top anime dub ever, and because of it, that anime became the up anime of '06.
Starie Tiger I'm aware of that dub, but I'm a guy who has a rather odd taste in anime, my personally approved dubs was Haruhi, Charlotte, Ergo Proxy, Black Lagoon, Space Dandy, and to an lesser extent, Golgo 13
I'm currently on my way watching Gundam Unicorn whilst waiting for Chuunibiyou Take On Me movie (both sub and dub), and my impression is that dub was rather good so far
This movie always gets me, no matter the language..... Kids are cruel and some never change despite growing up.
damm you're right
Gorilo recently, I've been talking with some of my old classmates from high school, and some of them have grown up, both physically and mentally.
Melon Tart i guess they did, I just started high school
Melon Tart Damn, I haven't even watch the movie yet.
I think it also has to do with the environment. I have been in primary school for 3 year and high school for 2 year. Never once have I been bullied nor witness any bullying. I only heard of it from the Internet and health class. This is a private high school I am entering.
I'm a Vegetable why don't try to take that anger out with some kind of hobby or exercise? Talking or even just writing about it can be helpful in some way. Don't hate yourself, everyone has a part of ourselves that we don't like, but that doesn't mean we have to only concentrate on that. Yes, we should try to better ourselves but that's not all we are.
She dint play the victim she is the victim
A victim can play the victim if they are the victim you know, playing the victim card isn't always lying
@@Stampybampy they know that already their just pointing it out that she was actually a victim and she didn't need to play the victim
card
There is no victim play going on here. People actually want to help other people and aren't interested in being victims, which is how people used to live. Regardless of the circumstances in your life, you can control how you live. Living as a victim is not really living at all.
As a Survivor, I think the author was trying to make the point (non-judgmentally) that excessive passivity is also not an ideal response to bullying. By seeing herself as only a victim who is only a negative drain on others she reached the faulty conclusion that the world would be better off if she killed herself. This is of course absurd, because there are people in the world who cared about her and who would be deeply emotionally scarred if she had succeeded. She couldn't recognise this though, because she could only see herself as a victim, not as a human being who is loved by others.
Real people aren't the victim but play the victim
She really was the victim but still didn't play the victim
Honestly, victim blaming someone for trying to kill themselves is unforgivable.
Wdym?
Pancooke Content she called her the Victim even though she tried to kill her self
NJ6 but she IS the victim
Pancooke Content n o
Jacob Vassell she is lmao
By the way, in the Japanese version, Ueno tells Nishimiya’s mother; “If you can’t bring up a child properly, you shouldn’t have given birth to her in the first place.”
Let that sink in that Ueno had the nerve to tell Nishimiya’s mother that Nishimiya was better off not being alive/born because of her defect and that her mother couldn’t raise her “properly”. Another thing to consider is that Nishimiya’s father left because he found out she was born deaf.
「ジュリア」 dang it I hate fathers like dat
「ジュリア」 that’s not that crazy. It was obviously through anger, because the person she loved is in a coma for saving her life. No matter what, everyone who loves the MC what Ueno said is in the back of their head. Why did he have to be in a coma to save a suicidle girl. But no one would say it but she has the bitchy attitude to do so. If you watched anohano Menma’s mom, but then having an actual good reason instead of just fuck you for living. But I get what you mean Ueno saying that is just stupid af like Ik she was thinking that she was one of the reasons to why she attempted suicide. And then said that.
That is so mean and awful
For some reason I never liked the dubbing japanes voice cast is the best
Ueno is such a bitch fr, man.
I hate that girl with long black hair because she ignored that lady's son because she was also involved in bullying that girl who can't hear. She comes back like nothing happen who does she think she is. Talking about the girl who was bullying that girl with badges.
She did not change at all through the movie. Always stayed the bitch she was. Besides when Shoko was transferred to another school, Ueno(the black haired girl) was bullying Ishida(who she actually loved ) together with his former friends. This is a lecture for everyone in life. Your best friends can turn on you and become your worst enemies. This movie is realistic as it can get.
Prince Desperado you are so right, but still trusting your friend's because you actually believe in them so much it's always best to have someone who will listen to your worry's and other things. That's how bonds get stronger, so they don't break easily.
its purple.... 😄
My profile picture is not saber, its violet oh hell nah. It's true that you change because your Friends but you can still Decide How the fuck you are to others. She's such a bitch and I really can not stand it How she's acting in Front of shoko.
Alfredo Munoz I love how you don’t know any of the names lmao
Lexi Cowden did a bloody amazing job at Voicing Shouko considering shes Hearing Impaired aswell as Shouko.
Magane Chikujouin that's why funimation hired her. They wanted a deaf girl to voice the character, which I think is respectful. They could've been cheap and had someone they worked with for years do it, but they decided to show respect for the condition.
The Japanese VA for her WAS faking it. The dub VA is actually deaf. Which is why all these people saying Shouko's dub voice sounds "wrong" tick me the fudge off. My Brother's deaf, and he's never heard what his own voice sounds like, so pardon him if he sounds "funny." Frappin' subbers.
Melon Tart it was madman entertainment that dubbed this movie not funi but I agree that they went that route with this character
Lexi Cowden is deaf in real life.
TheBigHurt
I normally dont give a hoot about people posting their opinions about dub vs sub. But hating on Nishimiyas (dub) voice because of how she sounds? This is what those who cannot hear sound like!
The fact that Ueno never gets a proper comeuppance makes me so upset. I've never seen an anime where a villian gets no punishment or at least is told off for all the terrible things they do. ONCE, just once, Ueno needed to have been put in her place and learn that pushing problems on everyone else isn't going to fix your life.
Yeah, Ueno deserves a very big nosebleed to know how it feels like to endure so much pain and suffering she caused a poor deaf girl that she hates out of petty, asshole, selfish reasons that defines bullies as the ignorant, sad, pathetic cowards they are and need a hard dose of reality punch in their face if soft words and reasoning don't get through to them. And worse is Ueno acts like she is in the right in her actions, when in truth, the world would be better off without the existence of cowards like her.
@@Firechick12012 To be fair, Shouko hated herself fir her deafness even before she was bullied; her fight with Shouya was her letting her stress out. And Ueno did the right thing by never talking to Shouko again after the 'idiot" signing.
Well Shoko did call her a Moron ( while teaching her the sign for it ) she did it to tease her and Ueno storms off.
So I guess it some justice or the fact Shoko isn’t letting Ueno hurt her anymore.
Yeah, she did get her comeuppance in the manga. You can find it online
Im pissed honestly
Ueno has the audacity to tell shouko that she is the most selfish person she knows, while she is bullying someone for her own pleasure, saying that shouko is always acting like the victim while shouko IS the victim...and all these years to grow and mature up, she still stayed the same, not wanting to change, absolutely unacceptable...
She didn’t bully shoko for pleasure.... did you try understanding her reasoning at all? I’m not saying it’s right, but try understanding her reasoning for bullying shoko, instead of coming and typing that she bullied her for fun
@UClIqpmonHquW0Exs0dRB0cA she bullied her because she's a spiteful, miserable piece of shit
@@guts5101 either way her reasoning doesn’t even matter for the shit that she made shouko go through like damn😭😭 she was just as worse or even more worse than the rest
Chill she was like 8 when she bully her
@@horacthy8577 But she still bully (or physically harm) Shouko until her teenage years.
It's so annoying to me so many people think Ueno is relatable or realistic. There are so many people that talk about this movie and say Ueno's actions were acceptable and they understand why she acted like that. She was a bully and if you find her a relatable character then you're probably not a great person.
About time someone says this
She is relatable and realistic and listen to what I'm going to say because I know that sounds really bad at first. Her entire character is kind of the human embodiment of spite. She started off bullying her because she wanted to impress the guy she liked and she never got any repercussions for doing that. And as soon as she realized that it wasn't impressing him anymore she switched gears completely. It was a jealousy thing. She's relatable because the boy she's been in love with since childhood is clearly in love with someone else and so she's spiteful. But what's realistic about her character is that she takes her anger and self-hatred out on other people and that is something that a lot of people do. and I also hate when people say that she didn't get enough punishment for what she did but I strongly disagree with that. Seeing the boy that you've been in love with since the age of like 12 fall in love with someone who you thought he hated is punishment enough for bullying someone. And another thing to consider is she went through character development it just wasn't as obvious as everyone else is. That kawaii bitch on the other hand...
In a sense Ueno character IS realistic because there are people who acts like that in real life
her actions aren't acceptable, but they are realistic to certain types of people
If you watch the fireworks scene when everyone is watching them, you can see her standing there next to an older man in a military uniform and no mother with a bunch of kids
So she's probably got a hardass dad and defends her siblings. She doesn't hate Shouko just cuz she's a big bully, she hates her because she blames her for Shoya's misery. And probably blames herself for getting away with the bullying but Shoya had to pay for all their crimes. So it makes her hate Shouko even more for coming into their lives in the first place.
Humans don't like trauma, and she doesn't want to face the turmoil in her mind so her brain justifies whatever blame it can put onto Shouko instead to hide her own pains.
It's by no means healthy, or right. But I've seen people react that way quite a bit, it's a very human thing to do.
Nobody wakes up and thinks "oh boy! I'm gonna go and victim blame a suicidal person" It's an unhealthy coping mechanism.
So in a way I pity her, her big sister instincts, protective nature and feeling helpless to save her friend Shoya who's just a shell of himself she use to know
that's why she tried to do the whole hearing aid stealing thing again in the scene she sees Shoya again, she desperately wants the old Shoya back. That spunky, headstrong kid she grew up with, not this timid fragile looking person who's just only recently recovering from almost completely shattering. "how dare this stupid deaf girl suck Shoya into her hole, almost got him killed because of her problems. Doesn't she know she's already put him through enough??"
I don’t condone what she did but I do feel bad for her in this situation. If my friend almost died because of someone I would have probably acted out too
Ueno is shameless . Glad in my 22 years of life I never met such pure evil , don't know why her fans say she's relatable when actually the bitchest of them all who I have might encountered in life would never beat a disabled person for any reason let alone for a guys attention
She's the reason people with disabilities are attacked so easily for cowards and bitches like her to stroke their own ego, look superior, and act all high and mighty by shaming and degrading others who are not like them.
Well the manga does a better job of explaining it.
reem AA
Some people call her relatable because she picks on a kid with disability to
1.look cool and strong
2. Take anger on the weak
3. Is a jealous bitc-
@@sharknom4131 Ueno is the biggest coward of all in this film, proving she is also the weakest and most pathetic human there ever was, caring not for anyone but herself.
Disneyfan82
True
She did care about shoya the tho
I would never hit a girl, but Ueno is definitely someone who would make me reconsider that decision.
Can dy
Which one?
I hate ueno and Kawaii, uneo was selfish and rude and kawaii was a bitch and act like she didn’t even bully her, she would laugh when ueno said bad things about her, she never once stood up for her
Hitting is an understatement, I'd ram a full fucking fist into her jaw
I'D GET A FUCKING BAT AND WOULD HIT HER JAW AS HARD AS I COULD
“this is the first time in my life that i’ve ever been provoked to hit a woman”
no lie though, i don’t think i’ve ever HATED an anime character more than ueno
Why does the dub make it sound sadder...
YurigaGTR you could bring check out the life and second life it's a program that you can make anything come to life even so come the only reason I'm suggesting that is because I want to see a show go come to life in Second Life shogo is a great artist of a cartoon and I wish that more show Go cartoons out of most of the other stuff I'm sorry but I am not a fan of principal princess it's supposed to be a great series and a good education show for America
Princess whatever sucks I don't care I know what I see show goes better it always has been and unfortunately people are going to see things unless you force them to look at the truth I've watched and I make my whole entire life I know what good it is and shoko is always been good but it's better when it's done by Americans no fence when it's done by their own country they lose the Foster to make sure go good my point is Joker was a great series that should be nurtured and copied and used for more educational purposes of America that's closer we get things to be the closer we can get the children. o
No way the subbed is sadder i freakin cried my heart out
Phil Blanco What the fuck are you talking about?
😅...
Shouko crying is the saddest thing I have ever heard 😭
Opal Wolf well the haircut kinda implied they were friends
I like how the girl beating her up just puts the blame on her, I mean you bullied her as a kid too and made her depressed and made her try to commit suicide. Always hated that character.
I don't think the bullying is what made her depressed. I think what made her depressed is the fact that she felt like she was a burden. Not completely but it was a mixture of both.
She didnt made her depressed it was shouya but not just him
Funny cuz she is a traditional tsundere and one of the most realistic representations of one. Meanwhile Tsundere is one of the most popular archetypes...
@@Lukavoidd she VERY much contributed to it, taking part in stealing her hearing aids and other abusive bully methods. She also prevented others from getting close to Shouko and becoming friends, like what she did to Miyoko.
She also blamed all the bullying all on shoya in grade school
When Shouko started crying in this scene and saying “I’m sorry!” I bawled my eyes out.
Same
Still do to this day
her voice makes me wanna cry and hug her so much ;-; (shouya)
Chaotic Husky gaming same
Her name is Shoko, but yes I agree with you. I will protect her with my life.
I heard they actually got a deaf girl to voice her in the Japanese Version, but I wonder if they did the same thing in the English Dub.
@@mathewgodfrey1517 they did.
@@mathewgodfrey1517 uhhhhhh, they got a deaf actress to do the ENGLISH version, NOT the japanese version. the japanese actress isn't deaf ._.
Bro in the manga the mother was more savage, pulling her hair and pushing her, slaping her hard asf like damn.
The voice acting is on point holy crap
That’s because the voice actor for Shouya is actually deaf. I want a sequel so bad. I’m just dying on the inside thinking about how that can happen to anyone.
nooo. its terrible. the sub is way better
Cool_ Guy shoko
@@minnalunar The dub is great, the heck are you on about?
@@minnalunar why?
Ueno it's just terrible. She also bullied Nishimiya for a long time and when the consequences where coming she said she did not and tried to make herself innocent.
When she saw Nishimiya again she just tried to bully her once more for "the old times sake". She acted ridiculously friendly just to then say _it's your fault we aren't friends anymore,Nishimiya. It's your fault for not being "normal"_ and just acted cruel.
She kept Nishimiya away all the time she could. Honestly Nishimiya could've stopped at any moment,learning Ueno wasn't worth it... But didn't. She kept being kind even if Ueno didn't really deserved that kindness.
And this scene is just... I hated her the most there. I saw the movie subbed and Ueno says something _if you can't raise your daughter right then you shouldn't had gave birth to her to begin with_ or well kinda like that.
Ueno had the nerve of saying Nishimiya didn't deserve to be even born and alive. All because of her deafness.
I think she's realistic because once she realized that her bullying nishimiya didn't impress shoto anymore she switched gears and it became a jealousy thing. She bullied her out of spite and I feel like that's realistic. Also she didn't say that shouya didn't deserve to be alive she said that if she couldn't raise a daughter then don't have one basically. and I think she's right about that but her train of thought was not right. It's like a wrong equation right answer type thing. I don't think the mom is equipped to raise a disabled child because she made her feel like more of a burden then she really is and a big part of shouya's depression was thinking she was a burden to everyone.
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I hate Naoka Ueno so much. She reminds me of my ableist and condescending younger sister. Seeing Yaeko Nishimiya slap her felt so satisfying.
@@lovebrewer8700 Can't believe this Ueno bitch have so many lawyers supporting her character and actions as something realistic and right 😑
What about the girl with the pigtails? Not only did she ever take accountability for the bullying she was a part of, but would sociopathically cry to make herself seem innocent
Dragon Ball? Naruto? No! This anime has the best battles of whole time!
And that battle is with life itself
Lito boi
Lito true
Bahahahah -snorts- f-fuck
of all time*
👏 I LOVE THE MOM, SHE JUST GOES AROUND SLAPPING THE SHIT OUT OF PEOPLE. 👏
Im so proud of this mother
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*Me*
Why are you apologizing...you did nothing wrong
She felt responsible for Shouya's hospitalization. She felt he only got hurt because she tried to kill herself, because she couldn't speak normally (aka "change"). Although we see it as not being her fault, and in all honesty it isn't, that's not what she thought until her later discussion with Shouya when he reawoke.
Yes, she is
@@daretowooshme69 What do you mean "yes she is"?
@@uneducatedtrashrat8180it’s rage bait don’t listen to them
I actually really want to watch the dub. I watched the sub because it was all I could find
huge fan of many things i found a Channel with a Dub..Search up 'Profitable-Roblox & Anime' on youtube
You're disgusting.
I did too. But I do respect what funimation did for Shoko's voice. They hired a deaf girl to voice her instead of getting one of their well-known VAs to do it. So they have my mad respect
Kiss Anime
carlos pedro lol I know right. XD
Jesus people it's no one's fault
Yesika Narvaez it’s uenos fault shouya is in hospital actually. yeah shouko felt like a burden on him in the first place but the ferris wheel scene is what really made her feel like it was necessary to kill her self. if ueno didn’t know when to take a hint and stfu, shouko probably wouldn’t have attempted suicide, and shouya wouldn’t have gone to the hospital.
It's the bullies fault, which is Ueno since nobody else is bullying her anymore aside from that brat.
Eh, can't hate anyone. Haven't watch the movie but read the manga. I understand Ueno and Shouya and Ishida. What surprise me is Shouya seek friendship from a former bully.
She thinks Shoko use her disability to get his attention when they were kids and that’s why she hates her
Yesika Narvaez How many deaf people do you beat up for just living their lives?
Who in the blue hell can stick up for a chick who attacked a deaf woman who felt like she was a burden?
How in the hell can you blame the mother who felt powerless in the wake of her daughters issues and her other daughters attempted sucide?
Oh no let’s have a fucking pity party for the chick who constantly antagonizes the Deaf girl cause the Guy she “Likes” likes the deaf girl
Fuck outta here
Beating an elder person because she's stopping you from hurting her child really shows her character to us. I would literally think 10 times before raising my hands against someone elder than me no matter what the situation (unless its a theft or something like that)
Try living with that reason once that elder's daughter is the reason for your loved ones demise or accident
@@Ram1-wu4icstop Uenos character was a total bitch and you know that
@@Ram1-wu4ic You're forgetting she pushed Shoko into suicide by saying those hurtful things about her
Huh... Never in my whole life did I want to push someone in front of a sky train more than I do with Ueno right this moment.
yeet
I hope the studio is able to rebuild. They make such beautiful art with such important messages. They treated their staff like gold and the mad man that killed 33 people because of some perceived slight deserves to not win by having it all disappear. Instead, it needs to go on and tragedy remembered but placed in the past.
R.i P
@The Chromosome Kid
What the fuck is wrong with you
I’ve heard that Ueno was more developed in the manga but I straight up can’t understand her at all other than she’s just got no sense of empathy for others. The whole movie is about how being a bully affects you when you realize what you’ve done but I never get the understanding what’s going through Ueno’s head or why she thinks she has any right to pull this shit. I know it’s not her movie but a quick scene would have been nice.
I mean yeah she says that she hates Shouko for coming into their lives and changing things, that’s how she justifies her feelings but not her actions. We’ve all hated people for petty reasons but Normal people don’t act on these feelings so disgustingly And you’d have to be a psychopath to put so much blame on someone who was just trying to live their life the only way they could and act like you’re own choices didn’t play a part.
It wouldn’t bother me so much if it weren’t for the ending where it looks like she’s in their group of friends. Hell no she didn’t earn that. If they were going to change her arc in the manga (assuming there was one) they should have just left her out of the ending scene and gone for the “well some people change and some don’t kind of ending”
MadameTamma could just read it only 62 chapters and really good
@@lazyprinny3265 I think the movie would have been better if it was made into a tv anime. More time to better develop story and character
it’s to show that some people never change. they portrayed that well.
Ueno : Say something !
Me : Im givin' up on you
Bbyg Siewswift that what I did too XD
Uyehhhhhh lmao ;3
OMG 😂😂
Ueno: say something
Me: screw you go to hell if you want to fight then let's go after all I am a yellow and trust I won't go easy on you
[kicks ueno in the stomach while she throws up ]
Me: now if you slap shoko's face again next time I'll beat the shit out you
Ueno: 😱
Me: now get out of here before I call the police
You think this is funny huh?!
Hearing Shouko cry at the end is so fucking heartbreaking. It never fails to make my eyes water so much. Her cries just sound so horribly sad.
"You're the most selfish person I know!"
Look who's talking
Shoko's crying finally got me to cry about this. I was able to keep my composure until watching the english dub.
Top 10 anime fights
Earl Lotiv Plohiju We all love good anime catfights.
Earl Lotiv Plohiju More like one of the most pathetic fights in animation.
Earl Lotiv Plohiju ;-;
Earl Lotiv Plohiju That's overused tbh.
Ueno must die RIGHT NOW!!! I HATE HER so much!!!
Shouko *cries or apologies for nothing*
Me: * cries my eyes out, go under my blankets and cry even more
Oh my god a Gacha tuber
Who's cutting onions in here?
The Ninjas
ivegotnoname hey I was the 69th like
I almost cried seeing shokos mom begging forgiveness and crying in front of shoyas mom, I understand the film she hated shoya for what he did to her daughter as a kid, but this scene for her to finally see shoya being a truly kind and apologetic person made her finally forgive him for what he did.
Here’s an idea, if you don’t like the dub, then don’t watch it
YES. THANK YOU. Frappin' subbers tick me off SO much. Go whine about "Dub = terrible" somewhere else.
TheBigHurt just a bunch of self entitled weebs that think that anything Japan makes is the greatest fucking thing ever! They love to look down on people that watch anything that’s english and swear that watching subbed makes you a genius because it’s “more authentic”😂😂
says the guy commenting on a movie with entire japanese origins. most likely this movie wouldnt exist if it wasnt for JAPANESE artist and writer. man, some people these days are just so slow and dont know what their talking about. smh.
Well if you hate english voice actors you OBVIOUSLY need to say it on every english dubbed anime video ever created. If you don't you're not a TRUE fan.
more like, if you don't like the dub, I dared you to survive the awfulness Chuunibiyou English dub
I hate ueno
Well...
I'm going to try to explain Ueno's point of view the best I can, with an approximative english....so...imagine;
''You're in love of a guy, and he sees you as a Friend.
One day, he start to play a game and propose you to participate. The game is to make a joke to a classmate, nothing that could be Bad, you think.
You follow him, and he looks happy that you do. But the girl who you were making jokes to tells an ''other version'' of the story to the adults, and your crush gets into trubles.
Someone asks you if he really made bad things to that girl...and even though you think that people are making a big deal about that, you can't really say no.. and everyone start to hate the guy.
He's bullyied, people steal his stuff, adults refuse to help him..and all of this is happening because of the girl who told to the adults another version of the story.
Years have passed..and one day, you meet your old crush again. But surprised! He totally forgived the girl and he's even in love with her!! But it's because of that girl if his life was destroyed! If she hadn't be there, he would be with his Friends, and everything would be alright!!
You talk with the girl. You try to Say everything you think about her..but she just look at you and say sorry. A Fake ''sorry'' that makes you feel so mad. She destroyed his life, your life, and she act like she didn't Care. She looks like a total hypocrit, and you know that her sorry doesn't mean anything.
You feel so bad, you start to get angry and punch her. The guy says that he hates you. He refuse to answer to your messages, and then you learn that he's in a coma because of the girl.
Everything is her fault.''
That isn't true at all, of course. I'm not saying that Shouko's the vilain of the story...but...try to see things as Ueno do.
She didn't see how much Shouko is nice. She just see a girl with a smile on her face, destroying her and her crush's life.. that's how she see things...that's awful...but that's human..
I hate her too, and that thing regarding Shoko's disability really crossed the line, reminding me how much I hate anyone who attacks and mocks people who suffer from disabilities, conditions, or handicaps that they never asked to have in the first place, or worse, accusing them of using it as a crutch to gain sympathy.
yea
My profile picture is not saber, its violet u haters
My profile picture is not saber, its violet
Idc But ueno is bichtessss
shouya will never love ueno
Dont label her as hater like some of you rotten humans who chose to hate
yup, if the story ends without having to show Shouya's redemption side, pretty sure majority of audiences were also willing to beat him to pulp :3
hafeez TRS sad he never knew what she did
But even though ueno I don't forgive her but at least she became friends with her
Coraline Shaw my rage builded up when that happened
Same here
Anyway if I were a guy I would probably dump ueno and go on a date with shoko treat her nice
Besides I fucking hate Ueno sorry not sorry
Ueno’s dub voice actor is pretty good
Agreed although I don't like ueno
Kira Buckland is amazing
I honestly thought she was asuka from Eva . she isn't tho but it reminded me of her. Pretty good dub.
Ueno is a child that never grew up.
Honestly rewatching this hurts even more after what happened to the studio and especially what happened to the people who created this movie. I'm just crying again.
Ueno: say something
Shoko: *thinks to herself * am I a joke to you?
We all know Ueno wouldn't care if Nishimiya killed herself if Ishida didn't get hurt.
Yeah, bet. She would be happy because she is so entitled and self-righteous.
This movie is absolutely amazing. I can really appreciate the voice acting in both the sub and dubs. It tackles real world issues so well and really puts the viewer in the mind of its characters. As a person who deals with social anxiety as a direct effect from bullying I can really relate with the main character and his issues. I can respect that they added an amazing amount of character development between most of the characters as well. It was nice to see that the main character used to be a bully himself and as a result, he himself got bullied. I’m not saying that that’s a good thing but I’m so happy to see that they added that in. This really does happen and it really does get worse to the point of suicide. It makes you feel like everyone in the world hates you and has no respect for you. Feeling alone, ignored, hated, and all that painful stuff often happens between middle schoolers and high schoolers. Thank you so much for this amazing movie and I hope to see more stuff like this in the future!
2:12
you monster.....lmao
Kitagawa Yuki We going to Jail!!!
Kitagawa Yuki I actually laughed at that cuz it sounded accurate
Kitagawa Yuki Have fun in hell
LMAOOOO I ACTUALLY HATE YOU SO MUCH HOLYYY
Huh, the dub isn’t bad. It’s pretty good, I love the actors for Ishida’s Mom and Shoko’s family, and I’m glad they kept in mind to make Shoko sound deaf. Her actress did well, I still love the sub but now I want to watch it in dub. :)
Princess Amethyst The VA for Shouko IS actually deaf, though.
Oh 0.0 I'm a dunce for not realizing that ^^;;
Thanks for letting me know
Princess Amethyst No problem.
That dogeza scene made me actually cry during the movie, nothing else. Outside of anime, prostrating yourself before someone on the floor in real-life Japan is just as rare as getting on one's knees in the Western world.
WTF SHE CANT HEAR SHE CAN BARLY TALK!! WHY HURT HER!!!
Even if she could talk, it's still unacceptable 😢
In the manga, Ueno literally said if Shouya didn’t love her and get rid of shoko when he awoke, then he should stay in that coma forever
yeah she gotta go
@@icy9271 yea to streets she goes
Excuse my dumbness but what you're trying to say is if shouya (the boy) didn't lover her, ueno (the girl who hit shoko) she want shouya to stay in his coma forever?
@@checkyourwall yes
This movie is a masterpiece sub and dub voice actors where just impecable
Never had a dub be so good it give me chills
The manga version was kind of different. Ueno beat Shouko up even worse. Makes you even hate her more
Am I the only person who watches anime and doesn't give a crap about how bad the dub is? lol
hey it's jada I don't care about the way the dub sounds either. I don't know why people hate on the dubs . I watched dubs when it comes to certain action anime because I can't read the subtitles and see what's happening at the same time, I'd get lost and just blank out.
hey it's jada nope 😂😭
hey it's jada the dub isn't bad tho
hey it's jada THANK YOU!!
hey it's jada I don't care either. But in this movie, I actually prefer this scene over the subbed version. Her final cry was almost a scream, and it really symbolized how much emotion she was holding in.
Plus, did you know that the actress for her was deaf in the English version? 😊
Idk how this wasn’t nominated but this movie was so god dam sad and good. And the fact a deaf voice actor played shouko is awesome! Truly an amazing movie
I wish the writer should give more strength to her mom to smack that beeche.
People who are downplaying the dub are insecure elitests, there is so much raw emotion in shoukos cry the VAs on the dub did a fantastic job. Both were great and the movie no matter the language was nothing short of a work of art
Thank you, Studio Kyoto
This black headed girl needs Jesus like RN!!!
No call the Exorcist
Were the holy water at
just call Lucifer to drag her back to hell, that demoniac bitch should never have left there
im usu
Nah she is practically Judas
Or me (Pulls out reverse bear trap)
Whoever voiced the deaf girl did an amazing job.
A silent voice broke my heart both times I've watched it. I loved it dearly and this video reminded me of that.
That black haired girl is always getting on my nerves.
This movie always makes me cry... it takes me back to my past. It's beautiful and so sad
Ok people. The fun of Shoko is also a hearing impaired person. Not every deaf people has the same sound. There's do vary from each other and some can speak better while some still struggle very hard to say a few words like the subbed one. So, peace out.
“You sit in your own little world and ignore everyone else around you, you’re the most selfish person I know”
No ueno that’s you !!
i find it annoying that there are so many people that defend ueno. yes in some way or another she may be realistic but that certainly doesn't make up for everything she did to nishimiya. she literally said to nishimiya's mum that she shouldn't have had nishimiya in the first place. no matter what way you look at it , that is such a disgusting thing to say to someone especially after they just tried to take their own life. ueno is a horrible person and she needs to fix the way she acts. don't excuse her actions because she's ' realistic ' 😐
This still makes me cry years later
2:28 always give me shivers i love this movie so much
this movie always gets me. i had a deaf friend who had multiple suicide attempts, but luckily she survived. don’t ever let bully’s get to you. i promise it’ll get better.
I love this anime. Even though it makes me cry.
i always cry at this scene. it's impossible not to
I can't believe some people actually defended a bitch like Ueno. Ueno did nothing wrong and she was just influenced? That still doesn't make up to anything. If she really was just influenced, she could've realized that Nishimiya was innocent and would become a better person to her when they've meet again. Instead, she tries to look for excuses to justify what she did with reasons like "I was just telling the truth" or said stuff like "Shoya lost all his friends because of you" or "You're at fault that Shoya's in the hospital". I mean, If she honestly cared for Shoya, she wouldn't leave him in the dust and bullied him. Heck, the time when she sees Shoya again (after she bullied him at grade school) and acted all nice to him as if she was his most loyal friend (including after Nishimiya transferred out) is just irritating. She always think that she's in the right and claims that Nishimiya doesn't try to understand her, whereas Ueno herself doesn't even bother to understand Nishimiya's circumstances (Nishimiya didn't asked to be born deaf) which is kind of hypocritical. And how she even slapped Nishimiya's mother and told her that If she can stand up for her kids, then she shouldn't have kids in the first place (trust me, in most subs this is what she said in Japanese) is just utterly disgusting. And she even locked the Shoya's hospital room as If she gets to decide who can visit him. I'll still hate Ueno, and none of you can make me change my thoughts (sorry If this comment is too long, I just need to vent my feelings off)
I really love how she says that Shoko she is a so selfish, when she did nothing to help Shoya when he was upset. Shoko was actually there and wanted to be his friend. Like she just sounds like a hypocrite
I hate the way she cries in the end, it hits me so hard. Sometimes I just want to cry it all out like that to the ones I hold the most regret In :/
I cried when Nishimiya was saying sorry. dang, talk about humble.
i had problems watch this anime made me cry
i have seen this movie many but the way she says sorry i always crys
I just saw that 3 hours ago and i cried through the whole thing.
When you try to hurt yourself, you only hurt the ones who care about you.
I wish someone could give her a hug
I like what Ueno says in the original better. "If you can't raise a child then dont have one". She wants Shoko to be strong, stand up and stop hating herself. Shes still toxic regardless
Everyone is complaining how she wasn’t punished but this isn’t a fairytale that is divided into black and white. It’s about how bullying and cruelty affect both sides. She is punished by not receiving closure like the others. It’s shows how she never accepts what she did and how it destroys her and her relationships with others like shouya. It’s meant to be a grey story with no heroes or villains. Everyone is an individual with their own insecurities. The difference is shouya actually tries to atone for his mistakes and unlike the girl is rewarded with the not only the his previous victims friendship, but he now not only receives closure but understands her which is what he wanted. It isn’t saying that doing the bad thing will be the end of your world. It is saying that doing the right thing can make your world better. That’s how I understand it. I’d love to hear your opinions.
"What is wrong with the both of you?"
After everything Ueno has done, Shouko's mom was definitely in the right for slapping her
A silent voice huh? Was it....
*Hank hill in the background*
Ooooouahhhh
Well, if you didn't bully her in the first place, maybe she wouldn't have suicidal thoughts, Ueno.
I also was the one who gets bullied in school I never wanted to pic fight but they insulted me made me cry in front of everyone ,but now I learned so much things,real life does not have the concept of black and white , real life have the concept of grey.
Such a strong movie, by watching this scene is already giving me the tears.
I'm cry alot when shoko say I'm sorry to ishida's mother 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
This scene is unforgettable
I really glad Shoya save Shoko from falling out the outside the apartment and shoko mom apologize to Shoya mom also Shoko apologize to Shoya but if it wasn't for Shoya then Shoko wouldn't be here right now but i glad Shoya & Shoko are okay also Shoko side by side with Shoya to the very end
The part where Shoko cries and apologizes really got me...
2:15 evil laugh
Internet Tough guy lmaoooo good catch
Good one mateee
The voice actress is actually hearing impaired in real life. She probably is crying, she can’t hear how it sounds though, so it comes off as more of a laugh to people with normal hearing.
Lol
When nishimaya apologised to shokos mother...it felt too heart breaking to me....
Poor Shouko..
That ost when nishimiya is crying is also nostalgic and makes the scene more heart breaking......
1:31 ROUND 1, FIGHT!!
her cries shatter my soul.