Sam Seder Addresses Joe Rogan's Sneak Diss
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- Sam Seder reacts to Joe Rogan's spineless subtweet criticizing Seder's comments on the PBD podcast about a 90% tax rate for top earners.
Watch the Majority Report live Monday-Friday at 12 p.m. EST on RUclips OR listen via daily podcast at www.Majority.FM
www.house.gov/...
www.senate.gov...
#SamSeder #EmmaVigeland #MajorityReport #politics #news #progressive #leftist #democrats #liberal
SUPPORT the show by becoming a member: www.jointhemajo...
Download TMR's FREE app: www.majorityapp...
TMR MERCH: www.shop.majori...
CHECK OUT MORE from the MR crew:
Matt Binder DOOMED / mattbinder
Brandon Sutton DISCOURSE / expandthediscourse
Emma Vigeland ESVN / esvnshow
Matt Lech LEFT RECKONING / leftreckoning
OTHER LINKS:
Twitch: / themajorityreport
Facebook: / majorityreport
Twitter: / majorityfm
Instagram: / majorityreport.fm
Proud to see Joe Rogan joining Dave Rubin, Dennis Prager, Steven Crowder, and Jimmy Dore in The League of Brave Truthtellers Afraid of Debating Sam Seder.
If we're including Jimmy Dore then I think Tim Pool should count too.
Both debated him back in the day but have since realised what a huge mistake it was for them.
Is this comment meant to be ironic? I really can't tell.
@@tilleryinnovations592 defending a millionaire on taxes and we are out of touch with reality 😂😂😂
@@tilleryinnovations592 You speak like a 12 year old.
Well said.
Rogan could have used his standing in society to address inequities in his community, but instead he ran away to Texas and dedicated 85% of his content to talk about how poor people ruined L.A.
How specifically could he have fixed homelessness in Los Angeles? Also, he didn’t cause it. Not really his problem to fix.
@@markislivingdeliberately He could do just about anything other than mindlessly repeating misinformation on his podcast. That might help.
@@markislivingdeliberately LOL! Rogan is just another selfish , arrogant, willfully ignorant Rich guy . Nothing special about him .His success is pure luck / timing . He has NO discernible talent - No one said he could have fixed homelessness. What has been said is he could have ADDRESSED it . Starting with not moving to Texas to avoid paying his fair share of Taxes . Which Rogan - multi- millionaires can easily afford to pay and STILL BE RICH AF .
Unbelievable how accurate this is 😂
@@markislivingdeliberately There’s a wide canyon between doing everything and doing nothing. I’m not rich or famous and I manage to volunteer in my community at least once a month. Lord knows what someone could do in their community with the resources and pull that Rogan has. I’m sure he thinks pointing out the problems is beneficial, but if all you do is point out problems, that is just complaining.
“The greatest economic expansion we had during this country’s history that impacted the most amount of people was when we had those top marginalized tax rates.” - Sam the man.
It's almost what the solution is to "make America great again.
It's legit insane that in response to Sam talking about taxing Personal income, Joe said, 'What about businesses' ability to make iPhones.' The dude has no fucking clue.
Yeah joes right. How is the business expected to produce i phones and not expect the shareholders to make an extra 3 million
@marketingIdeaslol you know what! You're right, as we all know they'd need that extra 3 million.
“We have to do something about economic disparity that doesn’t cost rich people like me anything.” Rogan is so brave. He’s just like us.
Rogan is open to pay more taxes…. He supported Bernie. Just because someone doesn’t want to pay 90% doesn’t mean they don’t want to pay more taxes. Derp.
@@cryptocaesar8972 He supported Bernie for a whole 5 minutes then went of the rightwing cliff.
@@cryptocaesar8972 that was before he moved to Texas lmao
@@cryptocaesar8972 dude rogan doesn't know what the fuck he wants, the guy is so incredibly ignorant it almost breaks my brain
@@cryptocaesar8972 I believe that at the 90% tax rate there were liberal deductions allowed, so it may not have actually been 90%.
Just so everyone is aware, Rogan believed a boxing match between two content creators (one whose stage name is "Dad") was real fight between a father and son. Rogan was on the verge of tears before Jamie told him that he had the story wrong.
I still remember Joe's response "Why did it lie?"
He falsely believes that the vaccine causes myocarditis more frequently and more severely than COVID itself.
@@vietimports you beat me to it lol. The amount of fake stories he's fallen for are really a starting to pile up.
@@vietimports that's not even remotely close to how that story went.
Y'all said there was no litterboxes in classrooms.
We then proved there was in fact, dozens of examples.
So y'all changed it to something about school shootings.
That's what happened.
@@alabamaman5994 " school shootings. " - who would believe that...? never happens..got to be the cat people thing...lol
I've never seen Rogan so emotional as when he's talking about the idea that people on super high incomes might have to pay more tax.
The top 1% already pays 42% of the taxes. What you should be worried about is corporations about to benefit from cheaper labor from an open border. If that doesn't create more income inequality than the government missing out on a lil tax money you're in an alternate dimension.
The more money you give to the government the more they waist it and use it for war.
Liberal progressives are dumb enough to think it'll be used for them.
@@exaltedone2799Yeah man, right man, Big Avocado is screwing the people man, fr man. This is a weed only chat though, you're cool to smoke your crack, just take it outside.
Geez I wonder why that is.
"I want to solve wealth inequality"
"Wait no not like that"
You open to being taxed 90%? Or will you say the same thing
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p you some kind of dumbass? if i make 5 mil and get to keep 3.2 mil then hell yeah that would be fine. especially if we can fix our shitty budgeting then I would do it with a smile on my face.
Are you a billionaire. Stfu
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p do you think terry d makes 3 million?
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p If I made more than 3 million a year, and I truly wanted to help income inequality, yes. Is there another answer?
"If you tax me too much, I'm just gonna stop working." OK, see ya.
Joe's such a hard worker lol
That's what I've always said.
@@TROBassGuitar yeah, he makes such a great contribution to society, boosting the likes of Alex Jones and Ben Shapiro, and doing apologia for them.
You should try to make it less obvious when you didn't understand an argument that was being made then posting it here for all to see.
Ya, Joe Rogan, "working". 😅
Not familiar with this whole thing but “I guess you can call me a nerd cause I’ve read a book” is a fucking quality comeback.
Sam must've read the "wrong book." Probably why he's an idiot LOL
The irony of Rogan calling someone an idiot.😅
I caught that too
Because they are
@@rojayreid908 how do we as a group decide who is right or wrong? Either we use stats or we just ask the group what they feel? The USA is 700th in education so this is actually a hard question for most citizens
@@mattsims95 yes you're right
@@rojayreid908 And Rogan is a textbook m0r0n.
So classic to assume that struggling people don't work hard ("effort equality") when you make millions to sit around stoned with your friends.
People like Rogan and PBD think everyone in the world can be a rich podcaster or insurance scammer and everything still works exactly as it does now. That is way stupider than all of their economic opinions.
Lol are you a minimum wage worker that can't get ahead
@fauxbro1983 why do you read this as jealousy? Honestly, how small does your brain have to be to not understand that somebody has to clean toilets, pick up rubbish, etc etc etc. I am a high income earner but that doesn't mean I can't understand that everybody being rich is theoretically impossible.
@fauxbro1983 Not sure why you asked that. But the comment is accurate. It's a weird world now days. People think everyone can be a millionair. And if your not, your a failure. It's literally mathematically impossible for everyone to be rich. There is a set amount of actual money to be spread out.
@@fauxbro1983absolutely brilliant response dude, we bow before your intellectual prowess
@@fauxbro1983 stop hoarding your brain pills alpha
"These wealthy elites are hoarding all the money and something needs to be done about it... but let's not change any of the systems that allow for that."
What these criticisms of proposed reforms for wealth inequality fail to recognize is that socialism for the wealthy not only exists, but is prevalent throughout our current system of government in the form of corporate socialism.
“Corporate socialism is where we socialize losses and privatize gains. Companies that have failed in the marketplace stick the taxpayers with their losses, but when they make money they get to keep it, and secondly, huge amounts of capital are given to companies by taxpayers,”
@@hagnuj1070 People don’t realise we have been in a class war for the last fifty years and the working class have been gas lighted to believe it’s not actually happening!
I’m so sick of hearing about how the Working Class is a hapless victim, when they’re the ones jerking off to Rogan passing around Elon Musk quotes on Facebook and LinkedIn
@@hagnuj1070your describing capitalism, not Socialism. As an An-Com, I can tell you straight up socialism has nothing to do with government bailouts or checks or healthcare or any of that stuff. I do agree with you but some of you Left Wing Libs in America need to understand your for a well regulated, welfare capitalist state, if you were socialist you would want to work towards evolving out of capitalism and removing the state.
Who says they're hoarding it? Anyone who says that is generally ignorant of how an economy works. While there is a finite amount of money in a system at any one time, more money can be created based on new business and industry. Generally it's people on the left who make this mistake, and additionally people who are failures in life not looking to fix their own mistakes but rather to blame someone because they didn't achieve what they thought they would.
This video should be shown during History and Economics classes in every US high school on a weekly basis.
Damn straight, Sam. The inconceivable arrogance of that fool. It's maddening.
Billionaires should not exist. What can you even realistically do with $5M+ a year? It goes beyond living, surviving. It goes beyond luxury and investing.
It simply becomes hoarding where money that could be spread throughout the hands of millions of people, buying shirts, shoes, coffees, dinners, car washes, etc, etc, is in the hands of one person.
How many shirts can one person wear? How many watches, cars, coffee tables, windows, water heaters can they buy?
The Financial industry is killing this Nation and the World. It accounts for almost 50% of GDP - creating nothing. Improving nothing but the egos of 4 or 5 thousand families in this country.
While hundreds of millions scrape by. Choosing whether to miss another car payment or pay the absurd energy bill.
There is no conceivable way someone can truly "earn" $20M a year. It's a charade.
Furthermore, the CONDITIONS that create the ability for someone to earn so much absurd wealth comes from the _infrastructure and community_ that is maintained with taxes. They benefit the most from roads, bridges, police, etc. Their business is accessible because of them. Streetlights, trash pickup, etc. Workers who can read and write, and beyond that. All built with community dedication and taxes.
I digress - this is a rabbit hole.
Anything over $3M should absolutely be taxes >85%.
The problem is where it’s going after the fact. You can tax them that but are they really going distribute it out fairly? Or at all? Or will they LIE & say oh we have to give it to this war over here or this over here… yet it gets funneled into the those one power. That’s what will happen 💯
Beautifully written.
@justinbergman4288 Why not address both issues simultaneously?
@@justinbergman4288 Weird because it's not what happened when we had those taxes, it wasn't until we lowered them that the corporations you're afraid of being treated unfairly, used the excess profit to secure your government. The money being spent on citizens is what made America great when we had those taxes.
One RUclipsr said it best: I could show up at Rogan's studio in a suit of armor and convince him I'm a time traveler in 2 minutes
Who?
😂😂
"Generally speaking, Chinese people look Chinese."
-Bro Joegan
That's on RUclips!
Weeeeeiiiirrrrdddd
Toiletzzz
Generally speaking!
It’s Slow Rogaine thank you very much.
“ We have to do something about economic disparity”, “As long as I don’t have to pay more taxes”. Joe Rogan.
That's the problem with his show, he actually talks about economic disparity but also gives idiotic answers like "Learn BJJ" or "Work harder". the reality is today's generation works way harder than his generation did while also getting paid way less.
@@robertcharetbois He's owned by Spotify now, so he's basically an employee - employees do what they're told to do, so yeah - he's being paid for at least some of that commentary.
@ROBERT CHARETBOIS I always wondered what else was required from him in that 100 million deal.
He's talking about the government... Aaannndd how he doesn't care about paying taxes as long as he knows where it goes. You know, since California is the most righteous and JUST governor 😂🤣😂🤣 SF is doing greattt, LA is doing great, not like they're using tax money for dumb shit or anything. You clown, evolve please. Lmao
@ROBERT CHARETBOIS he always says "Don't take what I say serious." lmao there are other podcasts clown
I grew up in the 1%. Dad was a lung doctor at a public hospital, mom used to be in geriatric medicine before working on government health care contracts. They were the first and only member of either of their families to go to college-the grandchildren of immigrants, no generational wealth. I was privileged enough to go to the best private school in my state, where I learned what the difference is between being in the 1% and the 0.001%. My family lived in a nice neighborhood, vacationed once a year, never hurt for cash. My classmates’ families had bowling alleys in their basements, second houses in Tahiti and the Swiss Alps, private helicopters, elevators in their basements. Trust fund babies with former trust fund babies for parents. That’s the kind of money Joe Rogan makes for sitting on his ass. The kind he doesn’t actually want to put into fixing economic disparity.
@@yourmother2739 top 1% income in the US is about ~$500k -$800ka year depending on where you get your data from. That's how big the difference is between the decimal earners and the top 1% @Dhampyre may have been a 1%er and their experience would be similar.
Thank you for this perspective, these rich people including rogan will lie until their death bed.
I think he wants to fix economic disparity, but not by taxing people at 90%, that is idiotic and you wouldn't solve anything but get politicians richer. If you think the government has any actual interest in solving economic disparity, you are fooling yourself. They would take the taxes and waste it pork and pet projects like they always do.
@@yourmother2739 During the entirety of a string of social movements across the world, there hasn't been a society void of homeless and destitute. Maybe except Germany for a few years, but that's not because "society" took care of the homeless. The economic distribution of opportunity isn't really part of the homeless problem. They're outsiders of the economy, regardless of where society places the "socialism dial".
@@sloth6765 Do you believe economic inequality might possibly increase the amount of homeless people?
MAGAts: "Make America great again like it was in the '40s and '50s" Opposition: "Ok. We'll increase taxes on the wealthy and corporations." MAGAts: "Oh. Wait. Not that part."
The amnesia that Joe Rogan displays about Sam’s name is because he doesn’t want his audience to find Sam Seder on the Internet. Plain and simple. It’s a “keep your audience ignorant” strategy.
These comments are keeping me going.
Gotta be thee funniest comments section on YT.
Stop it , im dying here. Im even hearing the comments in sams woody allen slapstick voice...
@@armondtanz Yawn..
@@markhepworth ha. The ultimate 'get out of answering' list.
1. Yawn
2. What do you mean
3. Bozo
4. 'Ist or 'phobe
5. Ok whatever.
@@armondtanz cope just oozes from every pore of your being
@@armondtanz 😴
"I'm not a right winger!" -Joe Rogan
"Death to the poor!" -Also Joe Rogan
He didn't exactly say that here. He is concerned about it he just doesn't want to pay any taxes. There's something that we could do (left unspecified) but the one thing that has worked in the past, taxes, is super dumb. Without any wealth you should be able to materialize resources out of the ether through hard work, gumption, and freedumb.
That makes him a corporate democrat
@@grumpydaddy4209 You think he votes democrat? Of course you don't. He belongs to the grifter class of right-wing loonies who are far too chicken to admit they are right-wing loonies, fascists, racists, homophobes...
Got to protect the $$$ Can't afford to slap on the jackboots & goose step all over the shop for fear of loosing that sweet, sweet sponsor cash... Tim Baldy Balls Poole says hello.
@@Cancellator5000 Which is just stupid person language for, "Death to the poor!"
@@grumpydaddy4209 That town of poor Trumpers in Ohio that the rail company nuked all happened because Trump removed the regulations from Obama which had rules for required daily maintenance, number of maintenance workers, and special containers for class 2 chemicals that don't leak or explode in a crash. When Trump removed those the rail company fired 800,000 maintenance works because it wasn't required for safety anymore and then they took the deregulation money and put billions into stock buybacks for CEO's.
Joe Rogan evoking the same logic as people who ask "what movies have you directed?" because you criticized a movie
It's not the same though is it, someone advocating to give other peoples money away at a 90% taxation rate when you're never going to be the one that is doing the same then it's different than not being able to criticise a movie because you didn't direct one
@@Hmmyeah2019 guy who didnt watch the video whatsoever
So do you trust the government with that much tax revenue? Because I don't. I trust that capital in the hands of a private and good willed few rather than the majority of the feds.
Actually, Rogan didn't say making 3 million was a requirement to opine on the tax code. He said it was easy to have that opinion when it won't affect you. What you're referring to was a strawman that Seder propped up.
@@JJ-iu5hl anyone who makes 3 million dollars a year can get bent. no one needs that much money.
You come at the king, you best not miss, Joe. Sam lives for this shit.
the farmer in the dell
Sam just outspends everyone lol
It's amazing how Rogan points out that where you're born is correlated to your financial status in the future, and then talks about how "effort" is the factor. It's really weird that "effort" on the individual level is so easily predicted by your life's economic starting point.
He's dreadfully confused! 🫣
That baby really should've tried harder to be born in a better area
Well that's the thing, I think he's saying that the person born in a ghetto inherently has a habit of giving less effort, and that's why they're in the ghetto. Joe Rogan is fucked
@@patrickcarney6171 I know. What an idiot! 😂😂😂
It's also good that he correctly identifies the cause of economic disparity - people who live in "ghettos" have been setting economic policy in this country for too long, and I for one am glad someone has the courage to say it.
The disparity between Rogans audience size and his intelligence is another inequality that needs to be stabilized.
Love this 💕
Well said 😂👍👍👍
very well put. A bunch of low info crypto frat bros
Nicely done
Haha Amen
I love how Joe Rogan says "We need to fix the ghettos" like they're not a necessary crutch and intentional feature of capitalism and white supremacy. And then to support wage theft and wealth hoarding - A KEY factor in income inequality.
If you're standing in a house that's on fire, you don't need to be an architect to see that the roof is about to collapse.
Joe Rogan: We need to fix the ghettos.
Also Joe Rogan: I don’t want to pay for it.
He pays more taxes than you'll ever make, dork!
One of the times, Ben Shapiro was on Rogan, his solution to”high crime neighborhoods “ was to “flood the area with cops”. The problem is that doesn’t address the root cause of the problem. all that does is increase arrests, which statistically makes the area, a higher crime area, and what’s ben’s solution to that? Send more cops.
@@JustinMoralesTheComposer “brutalize the people!”-said in the squeaky voice of the fascist Ben Shapiro
@@JustinMoralesTheComposer the right has a delusion that cops prevent crime which is unequivocally and completely untrue.
Joe loves to sh*t on people for views and attention. He never adds anything of substance or insight, he just pokes and laughs in diarrhea (caused by his elk-only diet)
Rogan always says, "Don't listen to me, I'm an idiot".
If only all his viewers truly did stop listening to him
If he doesn't want people to listen to him.....why does he have a podcast? I think the answer to that question is self-explanatory. He's not only an idiot....he's also a LIAR.
Who?
I quit yrs ago. He used to be fun when he had wackos on 8-10yrs ago. Now he's a pretend thought leader who hasn't had a coherent thought in years
I'm taken him up on his advice
Rogan is a rich man protecting himself and other rich people like him. Sam, you made that so evident. Thank you.
So you think paying 90% of your earnings to the government is fair? Even if it's above $3M, no one should pay that much. I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't want to give the government 90% of what you earned.
@@chefbigdog1813 That’s creepy.
@Jim H It's absolutely fair if after paying 90% of your income, you'd still have far and away more than the average person, yes. It's not like these people making over 3 million dollars would be destitute or anything resembling it. They'd still be in lives of extreme luxury, like they were in the period of time Sam was talking about.
@@ljgibbs18 No it is not. You are thinking in terms of "this doesn't effect me because I'll never make that much." What if they lowered it to $100k? People could still live comfortably, but the government gets to take 90% of every dollar earned beyond that? Why would anyone work to earn any more? Why is the government owed 90% of your earned dollars ever? Imagine giving away 90% of your paycheck each month because the government just decided to take it? What have they provided? Another rocket? A palate of cash for a foreign war? I hate when people argue for more taxes when they think it won't effect them.
@@chefbigdog1813 Yes, it's fair.
Sam got this perfectly. I’ve been a fan of Joe for years but wealth and ignorance can do a number on a person’s mind. It certainly has to him. Thank you Sam for your content. It is greatly appreciated.
What made you a fan? I always hated Rogan. His whole thing is tough guy does 'x'. And he's not good at it. He's ambitious. I'll give him that.
@@lllazyoli I was somewhat of a fan because initially he just seemed extremely curious and interested in a variety of topics and the conversations were fascinating. But now with his audience and reach and bragging that he has so many people begging to be on his show, his ego is way too inflated.
@@lllazyoli You have to realize, he has been doing long form interviews with a couple thousand individuals for over a decade. It’s true that there is a lot of the “tough guy” blah in there, you are correct, and I’m not into that. However, there has been plenty of quality people in there that otherwise would not have gotten the exposure that it gave them. In those instances Joe is more of an inquisitive interviewer, which was refreshing and a novel approach to the RUclips space. Time and money have influenced things, as I said.
@@Amaryllis-4U that’s fair. He does have good guests.
I found many of Joe’s conversations painful to listen. he is quite a bit older than me, yet extremely less knowledgeable. I just found myself constantly asking “how the fck did you come to believe this obviously incorrect conclusion”. He seems to believe a lot of right wing nonsense without question. Then he repeats the nonsense as if he has first or second hand knowledge.. like the human size litter boxes in classrooms, or an applicant being told he wasn’t picked because he was a white male, or BLM burning down California forests.. etc.
@@majorlazor5058 You make a valid point. And considering the size of his platform, one would hope he would be more responsible with the information shared on his podcast 🤦🏻♀️
The idea of rogan calling sam an idiot is hilarious.
Ya, Sam is a beacon of wisdom...
@@RK79KR compared to bro rogan, he definitely is
@@RK79KR Compared to an ape like Rogan he might as well be a polymath.
@hanswurst5433 not a high bar dude
@RK79 well you obviously can't clear it.
The way he gets hostile everytime he refers to Sam shows that Sam has got under his skin. 😂 Keep up the good work Sam!
Cause Sam is a pathetic gifter that mumbles and stutters when forced to elaborate on his opinions.
Same thing with Pakman's tweet the other day, if it triggers the right, that means you did something good.
@@jackeagleeye3453 In what world are Joe and Pakman "right". Go back to believing mainstream narratives and putting people in boxes. Sam is just an ignorant hack that thinks more money to the government will fix things lol
It’s because Sam is a duech. He does more harm by just being a prick for his ego than actually getting through to people. Rogan actually love Michael Brooks because Michael wasn’t about his ego over everything else
Whenever I hear Rogan nowadays it just makes me extremely concerned for my friends who I know listen to him.
If people making over 3Million a year decide they don't want to do more "work" so they don't have to pay more taxes on that money over 3million. That's great.. maybe then they will stop using their resources to push up and coming out of the market. Then other people can fill those gaps and make more money.
Joe sure does sound pretty scared of getting taxed his fair share haha
Since he brought up the iPhone, Apple and Microsoft were founded when the top tax rate was in the 70s
Notice how well they did when the tax rate dropped…
yup. still gonna innovate no matter what.
@@markislivingdeliberately imagine how much better they would have done if the rates stayed the same.
@Mark is Living Deliberately imagine how better the country would have done if the tax rate was higher
@@markislivingdeliberately notice how only a few corporations did well after the tax drop? Yeah, we noticed.
I'm from UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Ever since i met Mrs Sophia I'm now living big life, she is the best
Wtf, y'all know mrs Sophia too wow, she’s really a good trader, she’s my portfolio manager, her skills are top notch.didn’t take her for the famous type.
I remember friends calling me crazy when I started but i now shut up them with my four
figure weekly returned
@paisleybrooklyn There is really no country restriction in her company,,,I’m investing with her from UK 🇬🇧
@paisleybrooklyn What surprises me about her mostly is she gives her client's access to her trading site whereby they can monitor their trades on
daily basis
It was actually Joe's ignorance on economic issues that broke me out of the alt-right pipeline. I started listening in 2018ish, started binging the backlog. I listened to over a thousand JRE episodes and had branched out to people like Shapiro, Peterson, and Crowder. Then Joe had on an Austrian School Economist named Pete Schiff. I don't know much about economic theory and even less then, but I've been poor my entire life and I knew just from personal experience that dude is full of shit. I started looking for debunk videos and wound up finding videos making fun of people i had been taking seriously, and wound up speedrunning most of breadtube. Today I am an anarchist, and it's all thanks to Joe Rogan not knowing shit about economics.
CEOs made 30 times their average employee. Now they make 300 times their average employee because they don't have to pay taxes on that increase.
@Tony who does the work?
and they are increasing the work load per worker thanks to tech while paying them the same amount
@Tony 30 times more than what employees seems fair, 300 times what the employees that do the work doesn't make sense.
@@Tony-723 oh fuck how did I forget that CEO is an exact synonym for company founder? Good thing you reminded me before I made an embarrassingly stupid argument.
@@Tony-723 why do you lick the boot? Lmao
Sam makes a great point that this isn't about raising revenue, it's about reducing the concentration of power.
Even if it does increase revenue we need it for basic infrastructure, which Rogan thinks is “stealing.”
But your just going to make the government bigger and the government doesn’t help ppl right? You guys always have an issue with the government and representation
How is taxing Steph Curry 90% on everything over $3mm on his $50mm a year contract reducing the concentration of power?
@@thomasdebiasio6103 why does Steph curry need 50 mil?
@@thomasdebiasio6103 the money steph would pay in taxes is literally Pennies on the dollar to what actual wealth hoarding billionaires would provide. Have you seen the roads lately? The schools? Public transportation? There’s a reason our shit is ass, we literally are operating on a fraction of the gdp to actually use for those services
I think Sam Seder is the most put together progressive voice out there right now
i agree dude.
been that way since 17 years now?
Michael Brooks was pretty f-ing put together. :-( @@gwilymyddraig
@@chrissmithdoe2100
ya, Brooks is solid gold MR. nobody said otherwise.
If you look up Dunning-Kruger in the dictionary, you find a picture of Joe.
If $3 mil/ year isn't enough for you, the world can do without your commentary. We'll manage
That's fine, be like me and don't listen to him. But it doesn't give you a right to steal his money
@@williamanthony915stealing his money?……. Dramatic much?
@@royrdze So when I get a paycheck and the government takes half of it to waste it, that's not stealing?
@@williamanthony915 So taxes are theft in your opinion? 😂
@@ari_metal95 Yes, when I make something and I'm forced to give half of it away, that is theft. The government shouldn't be running schools, energy, or healthcare, it doesn't need to steal so much of everyone's money for low quality products.
Joe Rogan is so terrified of Sam that even when he's shadow boxing Sam he can't bring himself to mention his name.
I think of that sphere of people only Tim Pool has actually said Sams name when talking about him, he is their “he who must not be named” boogeyman, they never name him and they never have him as a guest or debate him, and you know what it’s for good reason because I found out who Sam was a few years ago and he totally flipped my perspective… can’t have that happen to more people now can we?
Afraid if they say it three times he'll appear 😂
Terrified of a guy that would move to Texas or Florida in a hot minute if he had Joe Rogan's wealth.
@DavidGorgoroth no amount of money in the world could make anyone with an IQ above that of a goldfish move to Texas or Florida.
@@DavidGorgoroth I think Sam Seder could afford to move to Florida or Texas, I think he's doing alright.
Sam is just too well read, smart, experienced, and empathetic towards the working class for these clowns to even be in the same room with him. It's amazing to me how these talking heads have no idea how taxes work. They only talk about what the government taxes, but they never discuss the other lines of the tax code that help high-income people defer taxes and grow tremendous wealth.
The irony universe collapsed when Bro Jogan called someone stupid.
Sam Sedar is the candyman, they are afraid to say his name.
Oh no what a nightmare!! Sam sedar. Thank you for introducing H3 podcast to me..
Why are they afraid of saying MR. Bucket?
I was thinking Beatle-juice during the live stream. lmao!
@@Hason_Jason Any boogeyman really, these desperately status-quo rich people are very thin-skinned and over-protective of their family's dragon hoards.
🤣 Yep Sam is Pumpkinhead to right-wing cabbageheads. Stay away from Punkinhead unless you're tired of livin', his enemies are mostly dead, he's mean and unforgivin'.
"Red Wave Rogan" back at again with the political predictions!
You’re literally a bot
"Generally speaking, Chinese people look Chinese" - Joseph Robinette Rogan, national embarrassment
@@thepolarphantasm2319 That is…disgusting!
@@RaistlinFF That's on RUclips!
Cannot wait to witness the fall of that F****g idiot who fell for furries litter boxes in schools.
Back when America was great in the 50s, the top marginal rate was in the 90s. Why can't we MAGA?
Sam might not make 3 million in a year but he can throw a softball and remember teammates names.
Whether or not you agree with Sam, he actually proposed a solution, backed it up with historical facts and showed correlation between economic disparity n taxation. Joe Rogan on the other hand: 'I don't know. Something better than what it is right now'. Lazy!
The right grifters are so insultingly lazy and then have the audacity to say things like there will never be equality of effort. Such hypocrisy considering they're on the lazy ass grift train.
Exactly. But who cares about coherent thinking nowadays right?
Except for the historical fact that in practice people avoided the 90% tax rate to the point where the actual tax rate for that tax bracket was more like 45%
The question about Sam is if didn't know that or just didn't let it get in the way of his argument. I think the latter.
@@mudpaddle and what’s the actual rate they pay now? Probably way less than 45% so…
@@mudpaddlehe did address that when he was talking about the effective tax rate at the end. He acknowledged that people would shift their efforts into making less direct income and instead further investing in the business, etc., things people do to decrease their tax exposure (some of which is good, some is bad, I’m definitely open to disincentivizing capital flight and things like that). But as he said, the point is not to get more money for the government (“they could burn it for all I care” as he said), the point is to prevent people’s personal fortunes from growing to the point where they can basically control the entire system and force any other competition out of the market. Hoarding wealth is parasitic behavior.
“There has to be something better than what we’re doing now” but only if it doesn’t cost me money.
F toe rogan
He's so disingenuous & a borderline grifter
@@nolongerblocked6210 he's not on the border. He'll say anything to get more listeners.
We need a world class education system in every school district in the country.
Sam should really hammer on this issue more often. I've never seen him spit facts this much in one video before, and calling this the #1 problem in America (in his opinion) is incredibly based.
"A fundamental misunderstanding" kind of describes Joe Rogan in a nutshell.
Ok lefty lib
Reagan and our govt really shat the bed.
I would love to see you on rogan.. totally respect you for always being willing to debate
Joe Rogan knows about as much about the economy as I care about MMA.
This is hands down the saddest video title anyone will see on YT this year.
No buddy, nobody is talking about you lol 😆
@@alabamaman5994 Is that why you post dozens of comments on his channel EVERY DAY?
You’re high buddy
@@Tony-723 I do post pretty regularly and watch the show because I like it very much. I do not, however, spend all my time posting dozens of comments about a host/channel that I dislike.
Do you see the difference, Jethro?
@@kcolonelx6181 No, there is no difference.
The PBD Podcast with Sam was my first introduction to Sam and I have to say he absolutely destroyed them. Very impressive. All of their arguments fell apart. Sam did a lot better than D. Pakman. Don’t get me wrong, I love Pakman but watching that one was like watching a train wreck. Why does PBD ask all of the same questions and make the same exact points? None of it worked on Sam. Great job, sir!
PBD ran a sleazy MLM insurance company where nearly 95% of the licensed agents make commissions that are less than the federal minimum wage of $7.25hr.
sam seder is very well versed on economics and financial issues, he’s been debating libertarians and these kind of finance guys for like 15 years. and has a lot of guests that are professional economists or are very knowledgeable on the financial system and taxes
He literally said “well if patreon taxed me 90% I’d probably stop” and the interview should have ended immediately.
@@jfk8540 professional economists usually don’t know anything about how business or incentives actually work funny enough. It’s like fat dudes who coach fitness. They have theories, but they’ve never actually put skin in the game to know what it’s like.
@@markislivingdeliberately no. No he didn't.
Rogan needs to stick to talking about space. He’s out of his league in this conversation. Joe Rogan talking about economic policy is like a first grader giving driving lessons.
The 40's and 50's and 60's prove Rogan utterly wrong. The greatest prosperity for REGULAR PEOPLE we've ever had. Of course Rogan, doesn't know that.
Joe does have the vibe of the guy who works out but was never actually good at any sports
He's really not good at anything.
He didn't cut it as a fighter. Didn't cut it as a comedian.
He cut it very well as the forgettable host of Fear Factor.
He has black belts, so your comment is stupid and just wrong.
If you hoard newspapers and magazines, they send you to a therapist. If you hoard money, they put your picture on the cover of magazine.
Damn, good one
That seems strange to you? You know when the rich horde money they don't stack it in their home until there's no open floor space. (unless they are drug dealers) On the other hand libraries do horde newspapers and magazines and they don't get sent to a therapist.
I was loosing it watching it live with the chat! Great job
God I remember when Rogan called out Dave Rubin, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, even Steven Crowder. What the hell happened to the guy?
He overdosed on ego & money & now it's created a feedback loop & it's getting worse by the day.... Rogan's about to jump the shark & I can not wait to watch
He got bought.
Money
Oh stop, Rogan has always been an out of touch frat boy douche
He made money and now his personal wealth can be hurt by fixing this problem
"hey ding dong, that's a business expense"
Love you sam
But how are we going to fund iPhone production if it’s not coming out of the personal checking accounts of the wealthy?
Rogan called Sam a dork (I guess because he's actually smart and well spoken) but I don't see anything dorky about him. He seems to have great social skills, is friendly, et al. Yeah Joe's just the jock trying to make fun of a smart guy as a defensive technique.
Have you watched Seder debate other leftists who don't agree with him? His 'social skills' begin to lack.
There’s economic disparity but we can’t solve it by redistributing money. Another amazing brave take from the Everyman millionaire Joe rogan
Sam doing the Lord's work.
Yessssss!!!!!
By telling everyone it's okay to steal money
@@williamanthony915 It's taking back the money that was stolen.
@@15hmael74 Only the government has stolen my money
@@williamanthony915 Oh the old taxation is theft idiocy. Ok who gives a crap let's pretend for you and patronise you like the child minded fool you are. Taxation is theft. There we go little guy you happy? Now fuck off and pay your taxes and pretend to be a victim. Have a nice life!
it is so obvious that Sam Seder and Michael Brooks got under Joes skin so much that he won't even say their names. Joe would never even entertain the idea of having Sam on the show and debate him. He knows he doesn't stand a chance.
“There must be something better than we’re doing now” …but it can’t be different to what we’re doing now 🙈
Class solidarity at it's finest. Joe Rogan showing where his interest really lies... keeping his tax rates low.
Rogan show: Ppl that are rich work harder
Also Rogan Show: *believes stories about 1st graders pooping in litter boxes*
Someone tell rogan that the guy working 7 days a week at a construction site to afford the new increase in rent is probably working a lot harder than the millionaire landlord.
@@personman8734 I've always found it hilarious when a comic is right wing because that means they either strive for, or have achieved the ability to work 6 hours a week & have the audacity to lecture the public about labor
you know you’ve won the debate when they can’t even mention your name in response.
He actually did mention by name (a fkn dork)
Ah yes...
Genius.
I'll make a note of that.
Fanx
@@armondtanz dude you're working full time defending joe in these comments😂😂
@@kratos3949 Sam won the debate by saying it's okay to steal people's money that they worked for?
@@williamanthony915 I think we both have a different understanding of taxes
The income pyramid in most businesses is backwards. The employees who labor the hardest get paid the least.
Sam said on the PBD podcast that he doesn’t have heroes. Well I hope he reads this, because he is a hero of mine.
Referring to Rogan as Ding Dong is simply spectacular
Yeah he really showed him who’s boss
“America is the greatest country in the world” and “There has to be something better than what we’re doing now”. Joe Rogan, irony impairment at it’s finest.
Both phrases are sentiments of people around him, so he agrees with both. I think people may have a misconception about how some other people think and what drives them. Maybe for you it's intellectually consistent to say the same abstract thing and adhere to the same abstract ideology, but for him it's intellectually consistent to take care of himself and people around him and be in harmony with the things they say
So of course US is number one, and of course there's something better, and of course threatening his own income and wealth is ridiculous. All of it is entirely consistent and has the same disposition behind it
I wonder. Do americans travel outside america? They might live in a bubble.
@@pse2020 the vast majority are simple rural living people who live in all white communities and only experience diversity through Fox News.
@@NJ-wb1cz there is no honest way to say america (or any country for that matter) is the greatest country in the word. The statement is idiotic on its face and automatically renders his following statements moot.
Rogan ONLY hangs around yes-men. Which is why most of em are redpill'ed idiots 😂
Gotta love that argument. “Of course you want higher taxes for $3M+, you’ll never make $3M!” But doesn’t realize the exact same logic applied to him. Of course you don’t want higher taxes for $3M+, you make more than $3M!
It’s a stupid idea. Sam’s proposing that someone making $3 million should take home $300,000 a year, and someone making $2,999,999 should take home $1.9 million. I’m all for raising taxes, but this ain’t it.
Tell me you don't know how taxes work without telling me you don't know how taxes work. Seriously... have you ever done your own taxes? What sam is proposing is that the INCREMENTAL tax rate on any dollar above $3 million is taxed at 90%. That means that someone making $3,000,000 is not taxed 90% on the $3,000,000, but rather any money above that gets taxed at 90%. The 3 million gets taxed at different rates depending on what bucket the money lands in. First 10,000 is taxed at 10% then the next 38,000 or so is taxed at 12% and so on. We use a marginal tax system in the US.
What that system means is that someone who earns one dollar more than another (assuming from the same sources) is always making more money than the one earning less, even if that incremental dollar more earned is taxes higher, you don't get taxed on your entire income based on a new tax rate once you cross that arbitrary line, that would be ridiculous
@@MrNinopinoThis is not even what he is saying and it didn’t work like that in the fifties and sixties.
There are some things called tax brackets. It looks like that you have never paid taxes in your life.
What gets me is how Joe Rogan says that a majority of his viewers aren't willing to work as hard as these rich people and they still find him to be a God.
The idea that rich people are just those who worked the hardest to earn their wealth is classic conservative/libertarian brain rot.
"There's gotta be some way to fix this money problem without money 🤔🤔🤔" 😂😂😂
The craziest part is that Sam and Joe are about the same age, yet Sam looks younger and healthier than the man who pretends doing his best to take care of his body.
Alcohol-its a helluva drug! 😱
Sam's got that beautiful older dude hair, there are few things more impressive than a guy over 50 with a thick hairline
I've seen Sam in person. He's tall, and and would tower over little muscle man.
Hey, it's easy to sit in judgement from the sidelines, but the truth is it's not all fun and games being an anthropomorphic thumb, okay?
@@kgirl310 Joe Rogan: "But my nipples are longer then yours so NNNYYYEEEHHH!!"
Now we know why they didn’t have iPhones in 1950, tax rates were too high.
It’s not even a question of liberal vs conservative. It’s an unsustainable model for maintaining freedom and democracy. Too much power and influence in the hands of a few and one of our two political parties fueled entirely by fear and grievance. These scenarios never end well.
Sam dunking on Joe is my drug of choice rn
Is Rogaine Jogan that mad that Sam laughed at his throwing ability?
Also, is he really 4' 11" ?
Glad you included some graphs. Joe seems like a picture learner.
Comparing Joe to Sam is like comparing a 1956 Studebaker Silverhawk to a 1986 Honda Civic hatchback 🤦♂️
There is no Point to any Beef.
2 completely different flavors.
I know that when I stoop to insults, it’s because I’m feeling upset about something I don’t fully understand. I have little doubt that Joe is any different.
When you have understanding, you can think rationally and rise above your emotions.
Rogan is one of those guys who watches a youtube video about economics and thinks he's an authority on it
He's prob too lazy even to do that
Toe Rogan thinks he is a good stand-up comedian. Has anyone ever quoted one of his bits , like, "Did you hear Rogans bit about this...?"
@@sevensages5279 ha ha right - I've always wondered what exactly his talent is ? Other than being just another willfully ignorant , arrogant , self-centered " bro" ? Really other than being very lucky and the ability to "talk" what is he good at?
He watches a short clip made by bias people and runs with it.
The moron does it with ancient history too. Gets Grahame (nut job) Hancock on and becomes an Oxford scholar. He’s so uninformed about a whole host of topics, yet acts like he knows everything inside out. He’s gone completely right wing now.
Watching Joe try to figure out what the hell he's trying to say is fascinating. He almost gets close to a rational thought that would impress someone other than a 20-year-old frat boy.
Well said! I blame the weed that he can’t quite make the connection. Or genetic disposition to remain a libertarian frat boy forevaaaa. Possibly related 😅
What is this guy’s name? Poe Jogan?
I will never tire when he gets fact-checked, especially by Jamie. And will then state "I can't believe it's not real". And has done this on multiple occasions lol
@@Draxtor Don't blame the weed. Weed is likely the only reason he has any empathy left at all. Weed makes you kinder. Just imagine the bitter chunk of coal he'd be if he didn't have weed...
Like all LOLbertarians he’s sooo close to getting it 😂
So many people are 'liberals" until they get rich. And so many Americans dont care that the rich pay no taxes because we all hope to get rich some day.😂
Walmart gets subsidies for employing people that require government assistance because Walmart doesn't pay enough.
Amazon too!
More than 4,000 warehouse workers at Amazon, the e-commerce giant founded by the world's richest man, depend on food stamps to make ends meet in nine states, according to new U.S. Government Accountability Office data.
A report said 70% of food stamp recipients who work at the United States' second-largest employer and other chain retailers like Walmart work full time.
You should start a business then pay what you think is fair. It be a piece of cake!
@Loggerchad Wake You should start a business as well. It can be a competition of who can get the most tax credits while paying the lowest rates.
Too all I own and built a small cut stock plant and cut to length logging business. I only employ 5 to 6 people normally. So admiddly small but a business nonetheless. Sorry I have been so long getting back I am usually pretty busy I am the tree cutter, sometimes truck driver, marketing agent, tire changer yesterday, mechanic today, lumber stacker tomorrow, so stop crying and go fuck yourself. No shit big donors get favors. VOTE! O and secretary and my wife 💓 is my manager.
“This pencil-necked Pointdexter was saying we need to redistribute the money. He’s completely wrong, and I bet I can do more push-ups than him. He just wants the government to steal all my money. [Looks up into the lights] But there has to be some way… to KEEP my money while giving money to the poor. Without printing more money. Jamie, do you have a joint ready?”
🎯🎯💯🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if Rogan would make the same argument that his $200M contract has no effect on all the artists making .0003 cents per-play in the ghettos of Spotify.
Getting someone as toxic and inane as Joe Rogan to call you names and react like a petulant child is the biggest compliment one can receive. i fucking love seder!!!
Sam is the John Wick of these grifters
They're scared to even talk about him lol
Jealousy is an ugly thing
Blah Blah Yaga. He destroys people who spew bullshit.
@@clarkkent1521 Excuse me. I meant to say that denial and jealousy are ugly things🤣
@@clarkkent1521 the second I read that comment my power went out and now my security guy isn’t answering my intercom calls.
@@clarkkent1521 good one😂
😂😂😂😂 I love Sam he truly is the Beetlejuice for the right they’re so scared of him
The Spotify paycheck clearly has changed Joe. No ifs, ands, or buts. He used to say we needed to throw more money to lift people out of poverty. When his libertarian guest said, "we already do" Joe said, "we need to do a lot more!" He's view have "evolved"