Hey there :) Thanks for the lovely words about Sonic the Hedgehog. I highly appreciate it (I am part of the dev team). Btw if you like Metal Warrior 4 you might love MW Ultra which is a highly polished reboot of that series. One of the best games I have ever played on the C64.
Wow mate, you know I’m a huge Homebrew fan on the C64 and this top 20 blew me away, all awesome game’s and a few I’ve not played but look awesome, Glad Sam made it to the top, I think it’s my favourite C64 game overall!. Good video mate
Sam's Journey reminds me of Kid Chameleon on SEGA Genesis. I really like this game and it's mindblowing that there's similar game on C64. I hope it will get ports for other platforms too.
This is why I prefer good old home computers over consoles. The homebrew scene is insane. There's o many great new games and ports for Commodores/Amigas, Ataris, MSX and Speccys. Holy crap. The scene is exploding with fantastic stuff. 🤯🕹️
Awesome video and great list. I actually still get goosebumps when I see Sam’s Journey. And i am still waiting for the sequel. I do miss Zeta Wing. For me that is the best shoot em up in years. Of course Soul Force is fantastic as well. 🤗😊😊😊
Funny you mention that Prince of Persia has folks thinking they played it on C64 back when, as for me that culprit is Donkey Kong Jr. could have sworn I played that on the old breadbin.
Sorry for commenting so many times during the same video I promise this is the last one, but my jaw dropped when you showed Sonic the Hedgehog... that's without a doubt some of the beautifully done in-game art I've seen on the C64, period.
Boom...wow...now those are some memories unlocked. I remember this game not only because it's a Doom clone (more or less) but also because it was the first C64 game I played that was made by Hungarians.
Wait what this video has been out for 2 days ...... why am i only just seeing this now. Well better late than never haha some class games on this list buddy i will say that, well am off to play on my Amiga mini for a bit b/c it has to be done. Oh loving the insta posts of the new dog shes a pure killer. Keep up the great work and roll on the next one.
All great games, never seen Boom before. I'm one of those who hated Super Bread Box i just got so board with it after a 10 minutes so never got off that first level, and never got into soulless. The two id swap them for would be Bomber land and Briley Witch, i also thought Planet Golf was a bit overlooked. 👍
Some day you need to make a best SEUCK list, 'cause there have to be some good ones coming from the most innovative & easy to use construction kit ever...
I loved that program. Made a few games, mainly 1942 clones. (though my favorite was one I called Blades of destiny, Helicopter and a tank game). Also there was the GAC, Graphic Adventure Creator for adventure lovers. It was Amazing to think you could fit all that in 64k...when you think of how big games are today.
Wow thankyou - so many cool games. ~It blows me away that they managed to do Sonic on a c64 considering the speed required. Mario Bros was also as surprise, but technically a bit easier to pull off than Sonic. So happy the c64 still lives on ! 8-)
1:23 How did they achieve such juicy color red? C64's palette didn't have one. I assume some color blending, but I can't imagine which of the colors would produce that.
I implore you to try the cartridge remake of Ultima IV, with the redrawn intro and all round improvements. Makes it the definitive version of the game!
Some class looking games in this list for sure m8! It's a testament to how capable the C64 was/is after all these years. There's a good few here I've never heard of, Newcomer looks awesome, great animation, will have to check that out. Boom n Soulforce look great too. The top 5 are very impressive and like you stated, you'd be hard-pressed to believe that they was even possible if they had been released back in the day. Great list :)
Some impressive stuff here, even if it's mostly platformers and shoot 'em ups, and a few do need extra hardware. I'd say the Amstrad has a stronger range of homebrew games overall, certainly more varied (Pinball Dreams, Orion Prime, CPC Soccer, Imperial Mahjong etc - not to mention some great scrolling stuff), though Sam's Journey is especially amazing, the Mario port is a great effort and It's Magic 3 has a great cutesy look (probably because there's no red).
Great stuff and loving the content. I cannot remember for the life of me a game I had boxed for c64 on cassette and used to play with my dad. It had an image of a guy (spy) on the front if I recall. It involved typing and the first level was trying to get inside a walled entrance with a gate. I think the character may have had amnesia? Any ideas mate, I’ve spent over 20 years trying to find out.
Hmm I'd say it's more like a noteworthy 20 rather than a best 20, but I agree with most of it. There was actually quite a lot of discussion and updates for Mario Bros during its development. And I think the out-of-the-blue release of Sonic was more just for impact, as it's widely known that Sega has a permissive attitude to fan-made games.
do say that Mario and Sonic-ports are nothing short of programming magic and in Sonic's xase control scheme can be replicated perfectly. Usually only button you need in 2D Sonic-games is for jumping.
SMB 64 supports controllers with two different buttons as well, so with the right joypad it can be played exactly like on the NES, excluding the slowdowns.
I have to ask where that intro soundtrack comes from? I can’t for the life of me remember if it was a c64 or the amiga game, it’s been so long! I would very much like to know. Thx OSG!
I think Hessian and Metal Warrior Ultra are worth a look. Also, it might be worth mentioning that Sonic the Hedgehog requires an expanded C64, as does Sam's Journey for NTSC machines.
you are wrong man!!! SJ cartridge version can run excellent over NTSC machines without REU, only a few minor glitches from time to time are shown out, but isn't a big deal.
@@claudioquintanilla1471 the fact that you're qualifying how excellent Sam's Journey runs on NTSC with "can", and also point out that it has glitches means that I have a point. Sam's Journey runs excellent on NTSC hardware with a RAM Expansion Unit. Without it, it is not quite as excellent, though I'm not saying it's unplayable either.
Briley Witch and Planet X2.1 deserve to be in this top. Both games are triumphs of programming and show that anything is possible on a stock C64. They also are a first, never been done before, the first a JRPG, the second a real-time strategy game in the vein of Dune 2 and Starcraft. On the other hand, I wouldn't include Mario and Sonic, but that's just me. We already had Giana, and Master System Sonic is mediocre. Sam's Journey renders them both obsolete.
@@oldstylegaming Atari 2600 and Neo Geo have them both beat. But that's all console. Home PC wise, the C64 seems pretty unique. Then again, after 1994, almost everything in home PC was a specific family of PC, with millions of variations and upgrade paths between them. It's not the same.
Have you played any modern C64 games? One in particular, Planet X2 is a very good C64 game. Another is Attack of the PETSCII Robots. Both developed by the same bloke.
Obviously ive played modern ones as thats what this list is... i actually play tested a few of these two. I know 8 bit guys games and they pretty good but for me not good enough to get on this list
Its the pre defined RGB settings in Vice. Its like when you turn all the settings up full on your tv. I have my monitor in my gaming room turned up to these settings too.
@@merman1974 C64 color was always an interesting case. The colors were originally chosen based on how they appeared on NTSC televisions, though they ended up appearing a bit more muted on PAL displays, but color saturation could always be adjusted on the TV. The VICE emulator's default palette tends to be more washed-out than people remember from actually owning C64 systems. I remember red being quite vibrant on my NTSC television as a kid, but in VICE, it is totally muted.
@@merman1974 There's a really good page showing the colors captured from C64 PAL vs NTSC. I can't post links in RUclips comments, so Google search for "accurately reproducing the Video Output of a Commodore C64".
Great list. Didn t have the oportunity to play all as some of them are not free, and maybe out of print. I would sure add Joe Gun to the list (One of my top 5 ever c64 games). Also love redrunner, a centipede clone completely frentic with great music, Gameplay and tripy graphics
Atari 7800, commodore 64 and Amiga would have keep going longer if they used a two button or more controllers the sega used the same port and had a three button controllers.
I remember it still bean in when I was kid in the early 1990s because thay put golden axe and street fighter 2 on it rember we couldn't afford a megadrive and got golden axe and street fighter for it and was very disappointed 😆
a street fighter derivative (sort of) is being made right now, you can play a demo / alpha version. check the yt page, it's called snk vs capcom. very good gameplay already!
Uhm... You didn't quite like the searching part of «Hawksmille» due to not knowing where the objects are .. Where's your sense of exploring? Would you rather have flashing arrows pointing to where you have to go? Hehe. I haven't played the game, but I absolutely adored "The Legend of Atlantis" and I imagine the gameplay is somewhat similar.
@@oldstylegaming Sure. If there's more items than in "Atlantis" I can understand the tedious bit. But I will have to play the game myself. Thank you for another great video.
I am sure lots of productions lacked the amount of time in development due to pressure for deadlines (= money). Also, remember that the tools they had back then were nowhere as comfortable as they are today!
Definitely not "lazy" in most cases, just the amount of time allowed, and that is kinda across the board. Say for instance I wanted to work full time developing a game by myself. I could take out a loan, or save up money to do it. That money I had would be my budget. If the game takes longer to develop then expected, I am in trouble. The only money that would be coming in would be for sales for the game, so until it is done, that would be nothing. Same exact thing for even your largest game developers. They set aside a certain amount of money, or take loans, and are in the same exact boat - no money coming in until it is finished. If I am developing a game on the side as a hobby, with no intended release date, that is all out the window. If I want to spend 6 months getting the scrolling just right in a certain section, or squeeze a few more bytes out of the loader, I can.
Your comment about Mayhem in Monsterland got me thinking... I'm not saying it's necessarily the best C64 game, and obviously NO game is going to be 100% unanimously enjoyed, but is there anything closer to a game on the C64 that everyone (who has played it) likes than Mayhem in Monsterland? I don't know anyone who doesn't enjoy that game. What would be some other candidates? Turrican, Maniac Mansion...? You know, games that may or may not be someone's absolute favorite but most C64 fans enjoy it to at least some extent. "Non-polarizing" games.
Sams Journey would be the one i would say everyone would like and its better than mayhem. Honestly its like no other game on the c64 in terms or originality and quality
@@oldstylegaming yep!!! SJ it's far away better than MM, frankly speaking, MM has good Gfx, but its repetitive, typical "floating character" after 5 minutes it turns boring to death...
I honestly can't wrap my mind around the fact that Caren and the Tangled Tentacles is not on this list. Some other omissions like L'Abbaye des Morts, Millie and Mollie or Polar Bear in Space I can understand, because of the overabundance of action platformers on this list - and, incidentally, on the libraries, both old and new, of every 8 bit computer of the era - but something as unique as a game styled after the two Lucasfilm graphic adventures for the C64 that somehow managed to look several orders of magnitude better than them and nearly as good as something running on an Amiga? That's an incredibly glaring oversight, in my opinion...
@@hayesmaker64 Soulless is a great spiritual sequel to one of the very, if not the actual, first metroidvanias in history and a personal fave of mine, The Secret Armour of Antiriad, so I'd kind of spare that one to be honest; but other than that, yeah, there are many games on this video that in no shape or form belong in an all-encompassing "best of" list of this kind when compared with any of Savona's works. The man is nothing short of an artistically gifted genius of game design and his C64 programming abilities are stounding, and I don't tend to give away that kind of praise easily. Not to diminish or undermine, of course, the quality of some of the games on this video and the hard work of the good folks who made them, as there are some genuine great gaming _and_ programming highlights in here, but, objectively speaking and trying to adhere strictly to the theme and title of this compilation, there's also a quite fair amount of filler here that has no business taking spots that should rightfully being occupied by the aforementioned Caren or the incredibly ingenious - and, surprisingly, mind-warpingly playable, specially given the PETSCII gimmick - Monstro Giganto. Savona is one of the greatest talents that's ever graced the C64 scene and yet his many merits, both on the technical and artistic side, are rarely acknowledged accordingly, as this very video proves by ommission.
I am getting really angry that most people seem to overlook WORMHOLE, which I was test player for. It is a massive game, original, with a good story and 15 levels plus end sequence. Very disappointing.
@@oldstylegaming Cool! It's just that I see a game like GUNS'N'GHOSTS and BURGER TIME '97 and you cannot compare these productions with WORMHOLE... It's your channel and your opition so I have to respect that, of course. Cheers.
@@oldstylegaming great vid by the way. Such a great library of post-commercial life releases. Can't say I ever got the fuss over Commando Arcade but great to see some of those imperfect arcade ports given new life. The crazy thing is if you do this top 20 again in 5-10 years there'll be a bunch of new games to take into consideration with amazing looking titles like The Wild Wood, A Pig Quest, Lykia etc.
Hey there :) Thanks for the lovely words about Sonic the Hedgehog. I highly appreciate it (I am part of the dev team).
Btw if you like Metal Warrior 4 you might love MW Ultra which is a highly polished reboot of that series. One of the best games I have ever played on the C64.
Sonic and Mario on the C64 to that standard, wow! Never thought the system would be capable! Would love to see one of these lists for the Amiga!
Im working on that already mate ;-)
Just imagine if some of these games were released back in the early 80s. Mind blown.
I think code was bad back then and could not make justice of the machine full capabilities
Wow mate, you know I’m a huge Homebrew fan on the C64 and this top 20 blew me away, all awesome game’s and a few I’ve not played but look awesome, Glad Sam made it to the top, I think it’s my favourite C64 game overall!. Good video mate
There's something special about the c64 music and will always have a place in my heart 🙏🏽
Sam's Journey reminds me of Kid Chameleon on SEGA Genesis. I really like this game and it's mindblowing that there's similar game on C64. I hope it will get ports for other platforms too.
They are working on a NES port
This is why I prefer good old home computers over consoles. The homebrew scene is insane. There's o many great new games and ports for Commodores/Amigas, Ataris, MSX and Speccys. Holy crap. The scene is exploding with fantastic stuff. 🤯🕹️
I bought Super Bread Box a month or two ago and couldn't believe it was possible in the c64. It just plays so well.
Awesome video and great list. I actually still get goosebumps when I see Sam’s Journey. And i am still waiting for the sequel. I do miss Zeta Wing. For me that is the best shoot em up in years. Of course Soul Force is fantastic as well. 🤗😊😊😊
I was hoping that "You have to win the game" by Kabuto (2012) would make it on the list. I loved it. Great game, even by modern standards.
Its in my hidden gems y video i think
Funny you mention that Prince of Persia has folks thinking they played it on C64 back when, as for me that culprit is Donkey Kong Jr. could have sworn I played that on the old breadbin.
Sorry for commenting so many times during the same video I promise this is the last one, but my jaw dropped when you showed Sonic the Hedgehog... that's without a doubt some of the beautifully done in-game art I've seen on the C64, period.
No need to apologise, thats what the comment section is for
Brilliant video as always and just goes to show we don’t constantly need new hardware.
It's awesome when people keep an old system/computer alive by making new games for it.
Oh, and your new puppy is SO CUTE!
She is :-)
Woah, I did not even know about the Sonic port. That looks amazing. that would look good on the Amiga never mind the c64.
Wow, you’ve unlocked the secret Apple II mode of Prince of Persia… 😂
Boom...wow...now those are some memories unlocked. I remember this game not only because it's a Doom clone (more or less) but also because it was the first C64 game I played that was made by Hungarians.
Top 3 for me: LuftrauserZ, L'abbaye Des Morts and Hessian
Great choices!
I might do a follow up of this video with viewers choices .... i can get away with LuftrauserZ ..great gameplay but the colours give me a head ache
Wait what this video has been out for 2 days ...... why am i only just seeing this now. Well better late than never haha some class games on this list buddy i will say that, well am off to play on my Amiga mini for a bit b/c it has to be done. Oh loving the insta posts of the new dog shes a pure killer. Keep up the great work and roll on the next one.
All great games, never seen Boom before. I'm one of those who hated Super Bread Box i just got so board with it after a 10 minutes so never got off that first level, and never got into soulless. The two id swap them for would be Bomber land and Briley Witch, i also thought Planet Golf was a bit overlooked. 👍
Another great video mate!!
Mind blown. If only these had been around back in the day.
Some day you need to make a best SEUCK list, 'cause there have to be some good ones coming from the most innovative & easy to use construction kit ever...
I loved that program. Made a few games, mainly 1942 clones. (though my favorite was one I called Blades of destiny, Helicopter and a tank game). Also there was the GAC, Graphic Adventure Creator for adventure lovers. It was Amazing to think you could fit all that in 64k...when you think of how big games are today.
Ill look into that mate
So many games I'm going to have to check out now. I'd only heard of a few of these on the C64.
Wow thankyou - so many cool games. ~It blows me away that they managed to do Sonic on a c64 considering the speed required. Mario Bros was also as surprise, but technically a bit easier to pull off than Sonic. So happy the c64 still lives on ! 8-)
1:23 How did they achieve such juicy color red? C64's palette didn't have one. I assume some color blending, but I can't imagine which of the colors would produce that.
Brilliant list! Lots to seek out here!
Another great video release!!! Thank you very much! Always waiting for your next masterpiece ... very enjoyable! :-)
Aw thanks mate
Thanks again OSG. Totally agree with Sam's Jounrney. A phantastic game...but though I love all of the releases ya mentioned :D
Loved this one fella 👍🐣
great list have enjoyed many of these over the years since the great days of c64
Really nice to get a list of newer C64 games 😀
Saw a few in your list that I've been planning to get. Sam's journey does look fantastic but it sure is pricey, nevertheless I need to get it 😆
Another awesome video!
I'm curious about your accent, where are you from exactly? Somewhere in Scotland?
I implore you to try the cartridge remake of Ultima IV, with the redrawn intro and all round improvements. Makes it the definitive version of the game!
Some class looking games in this list for sure m8! It's a testament to how capable the C64 was/is after all these years. There's a good few here I've never heard of, Newcomer looks awesome, great animation, will have to check that out. Boom n Soulforce look great too. The top 5 are very impressive and like you stated, you'd be hard-pressed to believe that they was even possible if they had been released back in the day. Great list :)
Gonna do the amiga one next
@@oldstylegaming Plenty choose from! been a good few released since that fatefull day.... :(
time to add some gems to the c64mini:) tnx for the video, I had no clue such gems were released
Some impressive stuff here, even if it's mostly platformers and shoot 'em ups, and a few do need extra hardware. I'd say the Amstrad has a stronger range of homebrew games overall, certainly more varied (Pinball Dreams, Orion Prime, CPC Soccer, Imperial Mahjong etc - not to mention some great scrolling stuff), though Sam's Journey is especially amazing, the Mario port is a great effort and It's Magic 3 has a great cutesy look (probably because there's no red).
Great stuff and loving the content. I cannot remember for the life of me a game I had boxed for c64 on cassette and used to play with my dad. It had an image of a guy (spy) on the front if I recall. It involved typing and the first level was trying to get inside a walled entrance with a gate. I think the character may have had amnesia? Any ideas mate, I’ve spent over 20 years trying to find out.
Spy vs Spy?
I thought Briley Witch really deserved a spot here or at least an honorable mention...
At 2:20, Outrage worms look like those from Marble Madness.
Hmm I'd say it's more like a noteworthy 20 rather than a best 20, but I agree with most of it. There was actually quite a lot of discussion and updates for Mario Bros during its development. And I think the out-of-the-blue release of Sonic was more just for impact, as it's widely known that Sega has a permissive attitude to fan-made games.
Cool video! I would love to see the same done for Amiga games... or does that video already exist?
No im working on it now
I would have added Pains and Aches (the sequel to Knight n Grail) and Steel Ranger to my list, but overall, a great list
Crackin' good video.
do say that Mario and Sonic-ports are nothing short of programming magic and in Sonic's xase control scheme can be replicated perfectly. Usually only button you need in 2D Sonic-games is for jumping.
SMB 64 supports controllers with two different buttons as well, so with the right joypad it can be played exactly like on the NES, excluding the slowdowns.
the original c64 version of ghosts and goblins had the best music. I don't know why none of the other 8 bit ports didn't use it.
Some amazing stuff here.
Would love to see such list of released games after discontinuation for Amiga
Im on with that list now... but its a hard one to compile
Great video thanks! What emulator you use to get such colours on games?
Its just vice mate but then select rgb setting in the video settings
The first release of ghost and goblins music was the best.
The colour palette reminded me of the cpc
I have to ask where that intro soundtrack comes from? I can’t for the life of me remember if it was a c64 or the amiga game, it’s been so long! I would very much like to know. Thx OSG!
Its a remix of an c64 ocean loader think martin gallway.
@@oldstylegaming thank you brother.. makes sense now. 👍🏼
I wish we had gotten an Amiga version of Project Firestart.
I think that Galencia certainly belongs in the top 20. And personally I also like Wormhole and Powerglove
I think Hessian and Metal Warrior Ultra are worth a look. Also, it might be worth mentioning that Sonic the Hedgehog requires an expanded C64, as does Sam's Journey for NTSC machines.
Steel Ranger (the sequel to Hessian) as well
you are wrong man!!! SJ cartridge version can run excellent over NTSC machines without REU, only a few minor glitches from time to time are shown out, but isn't a big deal.
@@claudioquintanilla1471 the fact that you're qualifying how excellent Sam's Journey runs on NTSC with "can", and also point out that it has glitches means that I have a point. Sam's Journey runs excellent on NTSC hardware with a RAM Expansion Unit. Without it, it is not quite as excellent, though I'm not saying it's unplayable either.
Briley Witch and Planet X2.1 deserve to be in this top. Both games are triumphs of programming and show that anything is possible on a stock C64. They also are a first, never been done before, the first a JRPG, the second a real-time strategy game in the vein of Dune 2 and Starcraft. On the other hand, I wouldn't include Mario and Sonic, but that's just me. We already had Giana, and Master System Sonic is mediocre. Sam's Journey renders them both obsolete.
I enjoyed Steel Ranger even more Sam’s Journey. I’m surprised it didn’t make the list.
Newcomer looks cool but for some reason I can’t find a single review of it
Best off just playing it mate. It is a visual masterpiece on the c64
Mr. Sid well deserving on his title
8:47 are you sure you are showing us footage from C64 and not from some other 8-bit system here?
good work
An astonishing 12-year production run has to be a record for a home pc….
Xbox360 is probably the only one to come close at 11 year
I believe it's also the single best-selling personal computer model of all time, isn't that right?
@@SegaGenesisEvangelion yes, I believe so (Apple Ii & it's multiple iterations was longer however)
@@oldstylegaming that's also impressive considering it's so much more modern and systems nowadays get outdated so fast
@@oldstylegaming
Atari 2600 and Neo Geo have them both beat.
But that's all console. Home PC wise, the C64 seems pretty unique.
Then again, after 1994, almost everything in home PC was a specific family of PC, with millions of variations and upgrade paths between them. It's not the same.
how about Briley Witch Chronicles?
Which game is the music from in your intro mate?
Its a remix of an ocean loader mate.. think 1 or 2 by martin gallway
Have you played any modern C64 games?
One in particular, Planet X2 is a very good C64 game. Another is Attack of the PETSCII Robots. Both developed by the same bloke.
Obviously ive played modern ones as thats what this list is... i actually play tested a few of these two. I know 8 bit guys games and they pretty good but for me not good enough to get on this list
Interesting list - but what is the palette you are using? The brightness is turned way up, the purple in particular looks way too bright.
Its the pre defined RGB settings in Vice. Its like when you turn all the settings up full on your tv. I have my monitor in my gaming room turned up to these settings too.
@@oldstylegaming very odd, looks more like Amstrad CPC default than the C64 :D
@@merman1974 C64 color was always an interesting case. The colors were originally chosen based on how they appeared on NTSC televisions, though they ended up appearing a bit more muted on PAL displays, but color saturation could always be adjusted on the TV. The VICE emulator's default palette tends to be more washed-out than people remember from actually owning C64 systems. I remember red being quite vibrant on my NTSC television as a kid, but in VICE, it is totally muted.
@@SChristianCollins I am a long term fan of the Pepto palette, particularly in VICE. As a PAL user I never saw those "bright" saturated colours.
@@merman1974 There's a really good page showing the colors captured from C64 PAL vs NTSC. I can't post links in RUclips comments, so Google search for "accurately reproducing the Video Output of a Commodore C64".
c-64 still a top machine today without a doubt............
Soul Force and little tiny dog FTW ;)
Great list. Didn t have the oportunity to play all as some of them are not free, and maybe out of print. I would sure add Joe Gun to the list (One of my top 5 ever c64 games). Also love redrunner, a centipede clone completely frentic with great music, Gameplay and tripy graphics
Soul Force and Zeta Wing are obviously the best shmups on C64.
Nah nothing beats Katakis for me
Hey whatsup with the super saturated palette?
Got the RGB turned right up
Sonic looks awesome
Atari 7800, commodore 64 and Amiga would have keep going longer if they used a two button or more controllers the sega used the same port and had a three button controllers.
Wow, how do we go about playing some of these games??
Esse computador não consegue fazer azul sem ser roxo?
I remember it still bean in when I was kid in the early 1990s because thay put golden axe and street fighter 2 on it rember we couldn't afford a megadrive and got golden axe and street fighter for it and was very disappointed 😆
a street fighter derivative (sort of) is being made right now, you can play a demo / alpha version. check the yt page, it's called snk vs capcom. very good gameplay already!
C64 Forever Young
Briley Witch Chronicles?
Is guns n ghosts also for 2 player?
Yes :-)
It would of melted our little heads 😂
Uhm... You didn't quite like the searching part of «Hawksmille» due to not knowing where the objects are
.. Where's your sense of exploring? Would you rather have flashing arrows pointing to where you have to go? Hehe. I haven't played the game, but I absolutely adored "The Legend of Atlantis" and I imagine the gameplay is somewhat similar.
i juat think it breaks up the gameplay too much as there is too much to search. Its not a massive problem but for me makes it a bit tedious
@@oldstylegaming Sure. If there's more items than in "Atlantis" I can understand the tedious bit. But I will have to play the game myself. Thank you for another great video.
Shame these were not released during the C64 original run....
Just shows how fantastic the c64 was when the programmers took the time.
Shame too many lazy attempts back in the the day
I am sure lots of productions lacked the amount of time in development due to pressure for deadlines (= money). Also, remember that the tools they had back then were nowhere as comfortable as they are today!
Definitely not "lazy" in most cases, just the amount of time allowed, and that is kinda across the board. Say for instance I wanted to work full time developing a game by myself. I could take out a loan, or save up money to do it. That money I had would be my budget. If the game takes longer to develop then expected, I am in trouble. The only money that would be coming in would be for sales for the game, so until it is done, that would be nothing.
Same exact thing for even your largest game developers. They set aside a certain amount of money, or take loans, and are in the same exact boat - no money coming in until it is finished.
If I am developing a game on the side as a hobby, with no intended release date, that is all out the window. If I want to spend 6 months getting the scrolling just right in a certain section, or squeeze a few more bytes out of the loader, I can.
Your comment about Mayhem in Monsterland got me thinking... I'm not saying it's necessarily the best C64 game, and obviously NO game is going to be 100% unanimously enjoyed, but is there anything closer to a game on the C64 that everyone (who has played it) likes than Mayhem in Monsterland? I don't know anyone who doesn't enjoy that game. What would be some other candidates? Turrican, Maniac Mansion...? You know, games that may or may not be someone's absolute favorite but most C64 fans enjoy it to at least some extent. "Non-polarizing" games.
Sams Journey would be the one i would say everyone would like and its better than mayhem. Honestly its like no other game on the c64 in terms or originality and quality
@@oldstylegaming I'll have to try it asap!
@@oldstylegaming yep!!! SJ it's far away better than MM, frankly speaking, MM has good Gfx, but its repetitive, typical "floating character" after 5 minutes it turns boring to death...
Surely all C64 games were released after the C64 ;-)
great Giana sister...
That was released during the c64s lifespan
I honestly can't wrap my mind around the fact that Caren and the Tangled Tentacles is not on this list. Some other omissions like L'Abbaye des Morts, Millie and Mollie or Polar Bear in Space I can understand, because of the overabundance of action platformers on this list - and, incidentally, on the libraries, both old and new, of every 8 bit computer of the era - but something as unique as a game styled after the two Lucasfilm graphic adventures for the C64 that somehow managed to look several orders of magnitude better than them and nearly as good as something running on an Amiga? That's an incredibly glaring oversight, in my opinion...
Antonio Savona has more than 10 games alone better than Soulless and Outrage... ignoring any of his games is a big miss imo.
@@hayesmaker64 Soulless is a great spiritual sequel to one of the very, if not the actual, first metroidvanias in history and a personal fave of mine, The Secret Armour of Antiriad, so I'd kind of spare that one to be honest; but other than that, yeah, there are many games on this video that in no shape or form belong in an all-encompassing "best of" list of this kind when compared with any of Savona's works.
The man is nothing short of an artistically gifted genius of game design and his C64 programming abilities are stounding, and I don't tend to give away that kind of praise easily. Not to diminish or undermine, of course, the quality of some of the games on this video and the hard work of the good folks who made them, as there are some genuine great gaming _and_ programming highlights in here, but, objectively speaking and trying to adhere strictly to the theme and title of this compilation, there's also a quite fair amount of filler here that has no business taking spots that should rightfully being occupied by the aforementioned Caren or the incredibly ingenious - and, surprisingly, mind-warpingly playable, specially given the PETSCII gimmick - Monstro Giganto. Savona is one of the greatest talents that's ever graced the C64 scene and yet his many merits, both on the technical and artistic side, are rarely acknowledged accordingly, as this very video proves by ommission.
No steel ranger :/
vvvvv is good on this system also
I am getting really angry that most people seem to overlook WORMHOLE, which I was test player for. It is a massive game, original, with a good story and 15 levels plus end sequence. Very disappointing.
Im gonna do a video with viewers recommendations mate so ill check that out and it might get in
@@oldstylegaming Cool! It's just that I see a game like GUNS'N'GHOSTS and BURGER TIME '97 and you cannot compare these productions with WORMHOLE... It's your channel and your opition so I have to respect that, of course. Cheers.
@@syncrow76
Wormhole is OK, a fun, well designed experience, but it leaves a bit to be desired in the graphics department.
Is the screen resolution of the C64 really so low ? Everything's all blocky ! That's not how I remember it !
Cos you remember it through a crt
sinistro
Wait... wasn't... EVERY C64 game technically released after the C64? 😆
..... you know what i mean... i was gonna put after the c64 died... but it will never die
@@oldstylegaming now I know that's right!! C64 goonies never say die!!
why is Donald Trump in sam's journey? lol
You don't like the 8bit guy's games? Planet x2 and petscii robots?
I dont mind them but they certainty not up to the standard of these games though mate
First?!
you were like lightening
@@oldstylegaming great vid by the way. Such a great library of post-commercial life releases. Can't say I ever got the fuss over Commando Arcade but great to see some of those imperfect arcade ports given new life. The crazy thing is if you do this top 20 again in 5-10 years there'll be a bunch of new games to take into consideration with amazing looking titles like The Wild Wood, A Pig Quest, Lykia etc.
yeah they getting better and better
if I fall asleep, must be boring content
wolf3d for c64
zool for c64
xenon-2 for c64
metroid for c64
alien breed for c64