Building a Model T in 1925: Ford Canada, Windsor, Ontario
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- Опубликовано: 16 апр 2024
- In the summer of 1904, Gordon McGregor, president of the Walkerville Wagon Works, of Walkerville, Ontario, approached an up-and-coming American auto manufacturer named Henry Ford to propose opening a Canadian auto plant. The deal they made launched Canada’s largest and oldest car-building business. Join the CAM’s Exhibit & Project Coordinator Dumaresq to see what car-building looked like at Ford Canada in 1925.
The postcard view of the plant is from the collection of the Southwestern Ontario Digital Archive.
Video from the filmstrips "Your Future Car" and “Across Canada with Ford”, Library and Archives Canada ISN 185644 and 19759.
For more information on Canadian-made Ford cars on display at the Museum, visit www.canadianautomotivemuseum....
The Canadian Automotive Museum is open to the public year-round in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada. www.canadianautomotivemuseum.com
Audio Credits:
"Oh! Sister, Ain’t That Hot! (Que Ardor, Hermana, Que Ardor!)", Charles Dornberger and his Orchestra, Victor Records, 1923. Collection of the Internet Archives.
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"Kitten on the Keys", Frank Banta & Jack Austin, Columbia Records, 1922. Collection of the Internet Archives.
archive.org/details/78_kitten...
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Oh to just go back in time and drive one of those gems off the production line into my garage 👌
Great video. It's interesting how the price dropped on a Model T by about 2/3, while today the prices of new cars just keep getting higher and higher. Those were the days.
For what it's worth, that price drop did come with a cost- you were getting a car with barely any features. If you wanted more than two doors, or a heating/cooling system, or headlights that didn't burn out if you drove too fast, or an electric starter, or rear-view mirrors... Point is that cost was for a car that was so basic as to be actually impractical a lot of the time. There was a gigantic market for third-party Ford upgrade kits and extras.
If you think in real terms most haven't increased really as all the features which are standard now are impressive compared to when a sun visor or a basic radio was a added extra , even heating was a option
Tesla Model 3 is the new Model T.
Back in the early days they were really just learning mass production of major products. They were still developing procedures and very importantly, new machinery. So prices fell. These days, much of that is well behind us and so we don’t see these price drops.
Those were the new style of vehicles in those times, kind of like EVs are now and EVs will drop in price as time goes on.
Amazing the amount of technology 100 years ago, im flabbergasted.
At the time, Ford's factories were absolutely the pinnacle of industrial tech at a grand scale. And the Windsor plant wasn't even close to the company's largest!
Came here just to see the paint process, didn’t disappoint.
The magical world of flow-on lacquers!
in the spring of 1973, my parents bought a new LTD Country Squire station wagon (in Port Huron Michigan) that was built in the Windsor plant, along with the 385-family 400m Windsor produced engine.
This narrator should do VA work. His smooth, sultry, and scintillating sounds are a warm comfort in todays cold world. I even learned something!
"VA work"?
VA=Voice Acting
Veterans Administration 🫡
Love seeing these old videos locking in History
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5:16 getting a good whiff of that old school paint
Lead based no doubt lol
Lead-based, absolutely. From what we've learned there were respirator-type masks available to workers, but wearing them wasn't mandatory and almost no one did it.
As the owner of a Canadian made Model T, this is a fascinating insight into where it came from. Even shows a RHD hogshead at 5:54.
Amazing..people actually having a job😊
Look at that old school guy just spray painting away all day long with no PPE to speak of. I love it.
He probably didn't love the emphysema or lung cancer that went with it...
@@rustyshackleford7082 it's called sarcasm.
@@hankwilliams-hx9ww I get that.
It was just a snarky comment.
@@rustyshackleford7082 I beg to differ. Nothing snarky about it. I like seeing a man of his industry working old school. My father died of esophageal cancer and is annoying as that was he was an old school guy who didn't wear masks or gloves. I wish he did, but it was part of who he was. Old school. I love that fact about this man. I wasn't being snarky about his impending doom from the cancer that could be caused from it. If you interpret it that way you have a snarky mind as a beginning standpoint.
@hankwilliams-hx9ww Look, I'm 66, and worked in the rubber, chemical, and coatings industries for 45 years, and handled nasty stuff in the old days as a matter of course, something young people today take for granted. Sorry about your dad though.
That's how it should be. Efficiency should translate to lower prices not higher profits.
Yes but now big shel game with globalisation
I'll bet nobody realizes the immense earth shaking noise that the forge is making with those poor unprotected men putting hot stock into it. It would literally shake your heart into another beat . Too bad it's a silent film .
Wow, the man at 6:34 putting on the hood, was impressive, not crazy heavy but very "floppy" seems to place it perfect with ease.
Windsor-built V8 engines from the 1950s and 1960s were legendary among hot-rodders in the States.
I'm surprised, and pleased, that Model T era Fords were 100% Canada-built. I wonder how long that continued...
To the best of my knowledge Ford Model As built in Canada were close to 100% Canadian-made, though I don't know how close. Not sure about what followed afterwards.
I wonder how long the painter with no respirator lived?
Not very- though according to period sources, Ford *did* provide something like respirators, in the form of sponge masks that could be worn. They were entirely optional, and almost no one wore them, despite the company and the workers being aware of the health dangers of lead-based paint.
@@CanadianAutomotiveMuseum Oh wow! I forgot the paint was also lead based. I'm thankful I was never one of those kids who ate paint chips because our house was built in 1863. That house had so much lead it could be used as a nuclear shelter.
very enjoyable. enjoyed another not long ago. great to see a Canadian side of things. subscribed
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They ended switch auto production to Oakville in the 50s. Windsor ended up producing engines to date
Canadian Model Ts also had a door on the left side - which were not offered on US vehicles. This enabled Canadian-built cars to be completed as left (as in the US) or right-hand drive variants for the UK and other British Empire markets.
Absolutely correct! The export of Canadian-made Fords and Ford parts around the British Empire was a massive undertaking, one that's probably deserving of its own video or seminar some day.
Indeed. My 1920 T was built at Walkerville and the engine casting confirms that.
5:07 No mask, no downward draft, no nuthin'...
Yeah...I started in the auto body trade at the tail end of the lacquer era and into the acrylic enamel and then base clear era. I see that man spray and I'm immediately remembering my sticky eyebrows and eyelashes LOL.
They neglected personal safety. This is the reason why their goods were that cheap.
The problem is Devil runs the world. He is lier and murderer.
That's why we've got the Gospel about the God's kingdom. Jehovah would put everything in order. The dead will be resurected and we'll meet our beloved ones again! :-)
A very interesting time document! Thank you!
Very interesting indeed. I grew up in Windsor and cannot imagine where a plant this size was located. Many thanks.
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Pretty sure its by the VIA rail station, I've seen whats left of it from the train. Ford Windsor engine plant is currently on that site too.
1000 Henry Ford Centre Dr, Windsor, ON N9A 7E8
we need to start over again, like this. we need new car companies!!
Another great video? Nice it’s Canadian as well!
thanks for the video, the museum in Oshawa is worth the visit
It is, thank you for tuning in and for the recommendation!
Weheee, grinding glass with no protecting googles, wohooo!!! Nice oldey timeys!
Painting with no respirator...good times indeed.
All this, and bear in mind that Ford was a company with an unusually strong emphasis on worker safety- if this was a "safe" plant back then, imagine what the unsafe ones looked like!
Very interesting and (imho) well presented.
Thank you.
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@@CanadianAutomotiveMuseum Thanks for making me glad I did (and subscribe).
Great, informative video. Happy to see you guys have a channel. We visited the Canadian Automotive Museum a few times with our kids. Some real beauties in there. It’s well worth the drive to Canada’s motor city to check it out. Subscribed!
Well thank you! For tuning in, recommending us, visiting *and* subscribing!
@@CanadianAutomotiveMuseum It was our pleasure! I love the beautiful blue/white Amphicar in the collection. The Eaton family cars were a treat to see as well. I think we may be due for another refresher tour. It’s been a while. Keep up the great work!!
Back when an honest days work could support a family
The good old days.. not like now!
It still can. Nobody wants to live within their means anymore.
I saw a 1920s version of a Segway. Cool!
They used all kinds of motorized lifts, hoists and proto-forklifts back then, many of them gas-powered. The warehouse areas of the plant would have been swarming with them.
My man spraying that lacquer with no respiratory protection ☠️
Hell yeah, Brother!
Yyyyup. Respiratory complaints in paint departments were a huge problem, in large part because the protective equipment available was so uncomfortable workers generally chose not to wear it.
@@CanadianAutomotiveMuseum yes, that's why PPE is a last resort and engineering controls or process changes come first.
Impressive.
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forging the crankshaft all day looked like a grueling,hot and laborous job...
From what oral histories we've seen, the metalworks were the least desirable post in the factory, with the upholstery department a close second because of the dust and risk of injury.
5:10 spraying lacquer zero protection.... crazy
This was fun to watch. I’d like to know more about the ford plant that was in Burnaby BC
Thanks for tuning in, and good news- we're running a free public Zoom seminar on Ford plants across Canada tonight, actually- check out www.canadianautomotivemuseum.com/third-thursday-talks.
If you can't make it tonight, no worries, a recording will be up on RUclips tomorrow or Monday.
As the owner of a Canadian-built Studebaker,I found this interesting!
Thanks for tuning in! I hope you've listened to our talk on Studebaker of Canada- it'd very much be of interest.
When Ford made a reliable automobiles.
Nice episode. Do you have a link to the full documentary?
Not yet, but once we get around to putting it up online it will be linked here. We have... plans.
can i order one in green please when can i expect delivery?
You'll have to ask Ford, not us! None of our Model Ts are in green.
As Henry Ford used to Say - " You can have Any Colour you want , as long as It's BLACK " 😂
Right across the border across from Detroit
We need someone to bring back the model A..
No protection whatsoever when spray painting the car!! The workers health was neglected!
Yes and no. At the time, Ford had good to excellent medical support for its workers... by the standard of the 1920s. The goal wasn't so much keeping people healthy, as it was keeping them working productively. There were even programs in place so that bedridden workers could, for instance, assemble parts in-hospital. This is absolutely a time before the hazards of inhaling paint fumes would have been understood and monitored, that's for sure.
You should travel back in time and scold them. Then run before they give you a 1920s reaction.
🖐🫣Henry Ford had no concern for his workers and fought violently to keep out unions. Ford also bankrolled Hitler and is widely known to be one of the world’s biggest anti-semites. Cool cars though and great video!
As basic & simple as the model T was, today they would probably sell it in a wooden crate as a DIY kit.
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Honestly, given how common they are on the collector's market these days, you could probably buy an entire Model T in parts form if you scrounged around hard enough. If you're interested in these kinds of simple cars, strong recommend you check out a vehicle called the Orient Buckboard- it makes a Model T look like a Cadillac by comparison.
Is there one line in the factory for each body style?
I don't believe so, no. Everything we see from the video indicates that, at least in final assembly, everything happened on the same line. Assembly of individual bodies before they were mated to the chassis could well have happened on separate lines, but we don't have any evidence for or against that from the video.
Amazing how workers don’t have safety equipment such as googles, helmets, gloves, masks, etc.
In a lot of cases that kind of equipment was theoretically available, but no one wore it. Car-building was a phenomenally dangerous profession.
Quicker than a giga press.😂😂
Amazing cameras they had back then 😂😂😂
Genuinely, yes! Early film stock can resolve details at resolutions we would now consider to be in the roughly 2K range... if it's used properly and in a very good camera. This is an edit of a 4k digitization, and it shows that Ford could pay for decent camerawork.
5:08 wonder how long painters would last .
Not very. Paint departments had high turnover because most workers chose not to wear the uncomfortable and hot protective equipment available at the time.
ok
325$ I could buy one a week 😂❤😂😂
It works out to about $5,650 Canadian, or $4,100 US at current rates. So maybe not in a week, but still a very reasonably priced car.
"spraying with lacquer all day long, every day". No mask!!
The workers had them... aaaand apparently just didn't use them.
All this with no
Steel toe boots
Hearing protection
Eye protection
Ugly high viz shirt
In USA $
1908 $975 = $33,000 Today
1927 $325 = $5,833 Today
Hey, thanks for the conversions! Though the figures in the video are in CAD.
I don't understand why the colors of the American made Fords was an issue, you could get them in any color you wanted, as long as it was Black!
A logistical decision by Ford that launched the successful careers of an endless number of auto body paint businesses...but only after 1914. Heck, the Museum's collection has a beautiful '09 Model T in fire-engine red.
Spraying laquer without a filtered mask is insane. As a painter they didn't live long and if they did they had severe lung disease
Acrylic enamel and base clear are worse because of isocyanate hardeners...but yeah it was still bad. Mind you, it was nitrocellulose lacquer, not the acrylic lacquer of the 60's-90's.
Notice something.
No Safety Glasses
No Hearing Protection.
No Face shields when using high pressure steam lances, or compressed air hoses.
No Safety Boots.
No Equipment Guards for operating equipment.
Yeah...I guess they just learned to be careful, but I'm sure many of them suffered.
@@markanthony3275 I worked in the start of my career in a Pulp & Paper Mill. The local pub, where many of the fellas stopped off after shift had a photograph.
In it you could see the many men whom had prior industrial accidents.
My father, was also a Pulp & Paper worker. He could point out, each man, missing a finger and what Paper Machine that fella worked on.
There were no guards on pre-1960's equipment. So exposure was often. One missed throw of the Paper sheet into the dryers, and ooops, piece of your finger gone in the blink of an eye.
You work for OSHA? It’s the early 1900’s what do you expect my gramps worked there he lived till his retirement and beyond
@@Less1leg2 I work in mining, and there are lots of older miners missing two or three fingers on each hand...because they rested their hands on top of the guards while drilling straight up with a stoper. Inevitably a piece of rock would come down from the back ( ceiling) and smack right across their fingers! Miners don't work with jack legs and stopers very much anymore.
@@autobody_experience i used some of the very fist editions of the ASME CODE books and charts. during my CHIEF ENGINEERING EXAMS
The music junked another video 👎👎👎👎💩💩😬
What did you want… rap? 🙄
the music of That Time makes perfect sense
@@ScarlettFire341 good videos don’t have music
@@daleolson3506Try MTV.
YOU GUYS HAVE YOUR OWN CHAN ?!? AWESOME!!! 🎉
Thank you! We've had it for years, but only recently have started digging into the archives for interesting videos, as it were.
1:12, That man is driving around an interesting looking cart. Does anyone know what this cart was called?
At the time we're pretty sure it would have been called a platform truck, a compact, electric or gas-powered ancestor of the first forklifts.
Interesting, thank you.
Spraying lacquer paint all day with zero respiratory protection. Those were the good old days😁
Shortened days for sure.