I've always thought of the SDA church as just another denomination that worships on Saturdays. I only started to dig into what they actually believe when my uncle joined them and started exhibiting the most arrogant, cultish behavior I've ever witnessed.
When Jesus said "other sheep have I that I need to bring into the fold"that prophesy was fulfilled from Pentecost onwards when Gentiles and unconverted Jews were brought into the fold and has nothing to do with a cult that was birthed in 1844
Why parade around the stage with the Bible, if you are just going to read from your notes filled with proof texts that you stuck on the front page? It's not the first time I have seen him do this, as if he is trying so hard to prove to the world that his teachings are purely Biblical. This guy is creepy and deceptive.
Doug Bachelor does not have a deceptive bone in his body. It’s clear that some of you have never studied the Bible and know little of Prophecy. But God gives grace, yes?
@@susankane8728 yes, because it's DRUMMED in your heads that only SDA's know the Bible, right? Sorry to burst your bubble but we do know our Bibles, and we do know that John and Ephesians are in the NT, not the front page of the Bible.
Only the Holy Spirit can convict of righteousness, of sin and of judgement. No one can drum anything into our heads, we are not that and gullible, but SDAs have a wonderful plan of daily study and SS class that equips for understanding all the truth of God’s Word. I Never got that in any other church I attended.
@@susankane8728 I'm sorry that you never got that in any church that you attended, but to assume that of every other Christian church is narrow-minded.
I believe Adventists have no idea how other churches work In the Anglican church here in Canberra if a person or family decide to join a Penticostal Baptist or Presbyterian church they are invited to join the minister at the front of the church to say their goodbys and they are encouraged in front of everyone present to continue in the faith in their new church. This will not happen in an Adventist church . Our King is head of the Anglican church but when he visits Scotland he is a Presbyterian
SDA's gospel mission is to save those that worship on a Sunday to come to the true Sabbath Saturday. This is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As Paul stated If anyone else preaches a different Gospel. Let them be a curse. You are saved from faith not works. You cannot serve 2 masters for one will hate the other. I cannot serve Moses and Jesus at the same time. The Law is from the tribe of Levi and it is clear that that you cannot add nor take away from the Law of Moses. Yet Jesus has new Laws that fulfill all other Laws. Jesus is not from the Tribe of Levi, he is from the tribe of Judah, I'm am from the tribe of Judah and not subjected to follow the Laws of Moses as he is from the tribe of Levi. Love you all and God bless you.
Exactly, their mission, just like orher cults, is to get the believers in Christ out of the Churches, the body of Christ. They never to to the Jews, the Muslims, the budhist and others.
You are always on point - as usual. I don't understand how one can deliberately twist the Word of God like this but then EGW has been a Scripture twister and a Liar from the foundation of Her church, the SDA church, so Doug has been taught by the best! In John 10:16, Jesus is referring to the Israelites and the rest of the world; Jews and gentiles. Those of us who would come to know God through Him; Christians who would be called the "people of God," in the New Testament as the Israelites, God's chosen people were called in the Old Testament. John 10:16: "And OTHER SHEEP (Gentiles/non Israelites/non Jews) I have which are not of THIS FOLD (Israel/Jews): them (Gentiles) also I must bring, and they (Gentiles) shall hear MY VOICE; (Jesus' words) and there shall be ONE FOLD, and ONE SHEPHERD." (Both Jew and Gentile would no longer be separated but be as One Body) Jesus would BRING this other sheep to the fold through His Death and Resurrection. Before Jesus Christ, Gentiles were not considered to be God's people in any way. Jews and Gentiles were not ONE under God's First Covenant with Israel; the Old Covenant, the Old Testament - but under the Second Covenant, the New Covenant, the New Testament, things changed. JESUS is the One Shepherd; CHRISTIANS from ALL and ANY church denomination, whether one chooses to worship on a Saturday or Sunday - we make up the One Fold spoken of in this verse making Jesus OUR Shepherd. But OMG! The poor souls in Adventism believe otherwise which in turn makes GOD and JESUS LIARS - according to their theology, of course. Do they realize what they're doing by twisting Scriptures? Obviously not! They have changed the whole Gospel of Jesus Christ - which only their followers believe. CHRISTIANITY came with Jesus Christ - bringing Jews and Gentiles together as followers of Christ for before Christ, Jews and Gentiles were a separate group of people; Israelites were the "people of God" and Gentiles/non-Israelites were classed as "heathens; people who did not know God." The "other nations," or "Israel's enemies" whom God was driving out before the Israelites were Gentiles - yet Adventism's theology claim that WE - Gentiles/non-Israelites/non-Jews were given the Ten Commandments/the Law of Moses/the Law, when Scripture states specifically and explicitly, that the Ten Commandments was given to the Children of Israel. With their theology, it means that Gentiles/the other nations/Israel's enemies were together with them, in the wilderness, on Mount Sinai when God gave Moses the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20! (Adventists, be sure to read verse 22. Again, this makes God out to be a LIAR because, according to Doug, the SDA church was given the "oracles of truth!" My God! 😮😮😮 Paul says in Romans 3:2 - "...because that unto them (Israelites/Jews) were committed the "oracles of God." This means Israel had been given the Word of God - through Moses, and the various prophets who ministered to Israel before Christ came. Note that it didn't say the "oracles of truth" -and it wasn't given to the 'nation of SDA'S' 😁 or the SDA church. Deuteronomy 4:7-8 - "For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for? "And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?" Scripture further states in Samuel 7:23 - "And what one nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, ...which thou redeemedest to thee from Egypt (Gentiles), from the nations and their God's? So we see and know that SDA'S Fundamental Belief #13 is an outright lie and the Scriptures used as evidence, to prove a lie, does not pertain to the SDA church. This 'Remnant and its mission" is EGW'S remnant - not God's remnant - and they are carrying out EGW'S mission - not God's. Neither are SDA'S Jesus' remnant because His remnant includes all people who believe in Him and His Commandments till the end; for when one keeps the Commandments of Christ, one is also keeping the commandments of God. There is no distinction between Jew and Gentile farless SDA'S and other Christians. Revelation 12:17 is not exclusively yours, SDA or else this makes God a LIAR. I should say that YOU make Him out to be a Liar! But I'll say this: if SDA'S think they are special, a "peculiar people," then they really are because no other Christian except one is a follower of EGW, a member of the SDA church understands Scripture as they do.
I pray that many SDA’s will be willing to test their doctrines. Their church is not only teaching them false doctrines, but is also lying to them about Christians and what we actually believe. And I hate lies! It’s time to speak the truth!
@@finaldaylight3804 For 1, that they are from Babylon for not following the False Pharisee sabbath doctrine for instance. 2) That sunday worshipers will end up in hell. Also not found in the Bible. So what else do you want to know about your satanic demon worshiping cult if I may ask?
@@finaldaylight3804 They call Christians Sunday keepers, and that’s a lie. We don’t keep Sunday holy (nor any other day). They say we believe in immortality of the soul. Also, not true. They also say that Constantine changed sabbath to be on Sundays. Also not true. It’s not because of him that we worship together on Sundays, it’s actually because the first church in the Bible did that!! I could go on, but I think for the beginning this is enough. If you are really curious you will look deep into this things.
@@life.after.adventism You are called "Sunday Keepers" because you go to church on Sunday. You do believe in the immortality of the soul because you teach that once one dies, they either go to heaven or hell. Constantine did change the Sabbath to be Sunday..the first church NEVER kept Sunday, even the catholic church acknowledges this that the true day of worship is Saturday, not Sunday
When I talk to people about Christian denominations, I say we have unity on the essentials and liberty on the non essentials. I do not agree with the Adventist essentials, there for we are not in unity.
"For the Word of God is Quick,and Powerful,and is Sharper than any Two-edged Sword,piercing even the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of joints and morrow, and is a Discerner of the thoughts an intents of the heart." Heb.4:12
Thanks for your production with test the prophet. He is an incredible man and a blessing as you are. I have been praying for over a year before you connected with him that you two would work together. The Lord answered my prayers. Being directly related to a former conference president of multiple states and vp of general conference. I participate in praising God that some are set free from the sda cult that my family is currently and was involved in the promotion of the sda doctrines. Praise God for every one that is set free and born again into Jesus Christ and Him crucified alone. Thank you guys.
Doug Bachelor and Shawn Boonstra had their TV 📺 programs and disseminated The 7th Day Adventist Doctrine. They have popularized it and their seed have been sown widely.
This makes my blood boil 🔥 …….every time I watch him, I have to calm myself down and remember that God has everything under control. Doug can keep preaching a false message and lead people to believe a cursed message, but eventually he will have to answer to Jesus. But James, in chapter one, already let us all know about people like Doug. I hope its worth it.
“The church, ENFEEBLED and DEFECTIVE, needing to be REPROVED, WARNED, and COUNSELED, is the only object upon earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard.” EG White
So aptly quoted from John Harris's book "The Great Teacher." Ellen White is not the original author of these words. She stole them from Harris who wrote his book when she was a young girl and before she had a ministry at all. John Harris includes all of God's children in his writing of the statement and Ellen White indicates that only SDAs are God's church.
Disagreed with this even before Batchelor finished his discourse.. utter nonsense to view a denomination in this way. There’s only one church, one Lord, one baptism, and one God.
I belong to a pentacostal church and we dont preach that we are the true church or the remenant church or if you dont join are church you are going to hell its not bibical what the sda church teaches
I watched much of Millennium of Prophecy and printed out all the study guides. More than most of the scripture verses were ripped out of context to prooftext the SDA narrative. In that series only once or twice does Doug mention he's SDA and only in one of the lesson print outs is EGW mentioned. This seemed rather deceptive to me.
@Answering Adventism Thank you, I'm 49 I left SDA back when I was 13-14 lost my way for many years, my father is still in the SDA church and we've been at war with each other over SDA doctrine for more than 3 decades and still are :( but thanks for affirming I made the right choice to tack well clear of them. (X-Chelmsford SDA Church) .. I still care about the old childhood family, just wish they'd understand things from a different point of view and let Jesus do the talking instead of EGW
I love it that D.B. has a suit just like Batman's arch villian, Two-Face. This 'poking and prodding' by my family used to bother me (I am a Baptist now, praise the Lord, praise King Jesus) because I felt defeated, but now, I smile wanly. Such jovial people inside a denomination that preaches "another Jesus" and serves "the queen of heaven" (EGW)
It is said that in the end, the true church will keep ALL the commandments. MANY Christian denominations do not keep all the commandments, they keep them all but then conveniently leave out the 7th Day Sabbath..and instead keep the Roman Catholic "Sabbath"..Sunday.
Not even close. The SDA church teaches a false Christ and a false god which is idolatry, breaking all 4 of the first commandments. You can’t keep the first 4 (which are about God) if you have the wrong God. The SDA church violates the 6th commandment by sanctioning murder in their hospital networks. The SDA church violates the 9th commandment constantly by slandering and bearing false witness about Christian’s. It’s hardcoded into the system of theology. You guys are kidding yourself.
All cults are the same: principally SDA, JW, RC, Mormons. They have quite the same attitude as the Moslems. Either the teach a 'false' Jesus: the Muslims' Jesus never died on the cross, the one of the JW' is the 'angel Michel', the one of the Mormons is the 'brother' of satan, for the RC he is still a little child, without any power or authority...or they have their 'own' prophets who are 'superior to Jesus (Ellen G. White, Muhammad, Charles Russel, Joseph Smith... Pray for the Lord's sheep which are in those cults to come out and be saved.
@@answeringadventism True... But they're so stubborn and proud and blind. I know a lot of them and my own brother and sister are JW... It's not easy to discuss with, but the Lord knows His Owns. Shalom
.."It has often been presented to me that there should be less sermonizing by ministers, acting merely as local pastors of churches, and that greater personal efforts should be put forth. Our people should not be made to think that they need to listen to a sermon every Sabbath. Many who listen frequently to sermons, even though the truth be presented in clear lines, learn but little. Often it would be more profitable if the Sabbath meetings were of the nature of a Bible-class study." 21 LtMs Lt 192
he literally just said as long as you feel like your church is based on truth and preaches truth, its normal to want to invite others. he said something any Church would say. You people just love to hate
That’s all he said? He didn’t abuse John 10, mention the SDA church as the remnant, and misrepresent what the SDA church actually means by being the remnant like we looked at from their own website? Quite the case of selective listening.
...A JESUS, who doesn't break the Sabbath... is A FAKE JESUS. -John 5:16-18 New King James Version Honor the Father and the Son 16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, [a]and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I HAVE BEEN WORKING.” 18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because HE NOT ONLY BROKE THE SABBATH, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. //////////////////////////////// ...A JESUS, who doesn't make wine... is A FAKE JESUS. -John 2:7-10 New King James Version 7 Jesus said to them, “Fill the waterpots with water.” And they filled them up to the brim. 8 And He said to them, “Draw some out now, and take it to the master of the feast.” And they took it. 9 When the master of the feast had tasted THE WATER THAT WAS MADE WINE, and did not know where it came from (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom. 10 And he said to him, “Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!” /////////////////////////////// ...A JESUS, who doesn't speak of the dead in torment... is A FAKE JESUS. -Luke 16:25-28 New King James Version 25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and YOU ARE TORMENTED. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’ 27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to THIS PLACE OF TORMENT.’ ////////////////////////////// ...A JESUS, named MICHAEL... is A FAKE JESUS. -Acts 4:10-12 New King James Version 10 let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that BY THE NAME of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for THERE IS NO OTHER NAME under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” /////////////////////////////// Anything UNIQUE that SDAs teach, is demonstrably UN-TRUE. Don't invite others, to embrace THE LIES... of A FAKE CHURCH. A faithful witness does not lie, But a false witness will utter lies. Proverbs 14:5 NKJV
Only to those who are accusing the man of God of that. I will not argue with people who take a few verses, in the whole Bible, out of context and create their own gospel and their own Jesus. Farewell.
The Roman vhurch were the first to introduce Sunday worship to the world and their catechism states that Saturday is the Sabbath of God. Doesn't any body feel like keeping Saturday the Sabbath of God instead of Sunday the Sabbath of the romans
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv _" actually .. Jesus didn't rise on the first day of the week."_ *WOW* and what BS comic book did convicted you of such non-sense?? "In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sculpture." "And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it." Matthew 28 " *AND WHEN THE SABBATH WAS PAST* ....... And very early in the morning the first day of the week ..." "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week," Mark 16 I suggest that you spend more time between the pages of God s Word before spreading BS doctrines.
@@Moses-o3t I agree about the elderly being insulted. It is insulting to the elderly when people grift them for their money by frightening them with false messages.
Doug Batchelor is too dishonest to be a real Christian who actually knows Christ. Doug strikes me as a lost soul doing his best impersonation of what he thinks a Christian should be, but is empty of the Holy Spirit. That man does not know the truth, the Spirit of truth is clearly not in him.
Sadly true. We need to be in prayer over him and the millions he influences. It’s why we respond to him and other big name SDAs. They influence millions globally.
@@susankane8728 If you are relying on works of the law of Moses for any part of your salvation (like SDA's do) you are not in the truth of Jesus Christ. You need to pray for wisdom and discernment so you can escape that very dangerous cult.
What are the consequences of giving importance to doctrines, dogma &rituals? History gives the answer: Endless disputes, absence of affection & feelings of superiority. There would be no disputation with Adventists if attention was given to those things that Christ emphasized: love, justice, compassion & humility
And the REMNANT OF HER SEED that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have the faith of Jesus Christ. There are Ten commandments not nine.. Rev 18 asks Christians to come out of Babylon. Just like the parable of Matthew 20 . It has a dual meaning both for the JEWS/GENTILES as well as Christians serving God from long time vs the thief on the cross getting the same wages
Yes it is the mission of Christians to call persons out of errors/ BABYLON Rev 18: . If God didn't inject these errors and abominations into the church then it must be the enemy and that same enemy if he can cause 1/3rd of the angels to loose their souls, he certainly know how to cause Christians to stray. Same trickbthat worked in Eden to minimize the solemnity and seriousness of Gods commands. To make sure that you are not fallen focus on Gods word and not the populous
@@jettbaker7690 Which one? In North America there is "The 1858 Great Controversy" her fist one which she actually wrote, and in 1884 she wrote "The 1884 Great Controversy", This one she calls her best work. Also in that same year a committee of 5 conference members were delegated to re-edit and rewrite this book and the original testimonies. In 1888 the committee of 5 published "The 1888 Great Controversy" and put EGW's name on it, with over 200 pages of re-editing from the 1884 version. This prosses was done again in 1911, with more re-editing, this time WW Prescott was a major influence in the writing of "The 1911 Great Controversy". The SDA people are lied to, by the White Estate and the SDA Conference, about her and books. The book "Desire of Ages" was compiled by the White Estate staff secretary Marion B Davis, plagiarizing the work of Samuel J. Andrews, "The Life of Our Lord Upon the Earth". EGW did not write this book, which also has errors in it as do all the EGW books circulating in SDA conference book stores.
Every allegation this man brings against the SDA Church, he needs to point in his own direction. Beware of how Commandment breakers love to refer to Sabbath keepers as Pharisees. It’s almost a joke.
Jesus called the Pharisaical Jews Pharisees. I simply reiterated what he stated. lol "Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things, and said to him, “Are we also blind?” Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains."-John 9:40 That's the end of chapter 9 leading to chapter 10 with Jesus speaking to the same individuals. Take it up with Jesus, Susan.
_"Commandment breakers love to refer to Sabbath keepers as Pharisees. "_ *NO* , its not a joke, we are dead serious when we called you cult followers Pharisees, for that is what you are. Don't be ashamed of your deeds, for you are the ones that believe that sabbath keeping means eternal life and that Jesus works at the cross didn't saved no one of their sins. Yes, both statements was published by your beloved prophet, the witch EGW. So get over your supremacy, you are spiritual blind simple as that
Insults - Jesus took many of these, w/o flinching. Revelation tells us we will come together “from one moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another” to Worship before God’s throne.
The SDA message diverts people from Jesus Christ and the gospel message. If someone thinks that their works can change their character and that they can make themselves 'perfect' ( though the SDA church doesn't understand what perfect means anyhow) then they will be prone to feel entitled to God's gifts as if they earned them and also be judgemental of others who they don't feel are measuring up to their Ellen made rules- kind of like the pharisees. Brings to mind Matthew 22:12 where the man showed up at the wedding banquet not dressed in wedding clothes.
Before y'all go ahead judging Doug u should all remember that God's remnants keep all the ten commandments So try finding out about which actually is th Sabbath
God actually has way more than just “ten commandments”, the greatest of which is to Love God and Love your neighbor. Linguistically, there’s no such thing as “Ten Commandments”, the Hebrew word is “devar” (word) not “miztov” (commandments) in other words it’s the “ten words” or “ten sayings”, that’s why the word “Decalogue” is used, (Deca = Ten) + (Logos = Words) = Ten Words. God did not give “ten commandments” at Sinai per se, he gave a Law which consistent of over 600 Commandments, among which Ten are used as an executive summary representing the whole.
God remnants are those who keep the commandments of the heart (love) NOT what's written on stone. Furthermore SDA cannot be a remnant church when their founders didn't originally recognize a Sabbath but was told about it from someone else. They then monetized on the name "SDA" to make a profit from people like you and used the misinterpretation of the Catholic church to further cement their cause. All SDA members are suckers.
..."All Of Em, Hirelings"! Come Out Of All Of Em, O Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel!!! * Genesis 48 : 15 - 19 * Deuteronomy 4 * 1 Kings 12 * Jeremiah 31 * Romans 11 * Ephesians 2
Interesting that you did not use the Seventh Day Adventist in the different denominations. You seem very angry about the SDA Church. I am new to the Bible and all denominations in the USA coming from Europe, there is catholicism and protestantism, mainly,was when I was young. I heard Doug Batchelor say once on Growing Truth Radio, if there is a denomination closer to the Bible, he will go there. Isn't it true, followers of Christ are a peculiar people, no jewelry, no tatoos, no riches, simple clothes, no alcohol, no cigarettes, no meat, no adultery, no lying and so much more, but one thing very much, to love thy naighbour and to honor God. And isn't Doug Batchelor as well thy neighbour? That is why I like the Seventh Day Adventist Church - it's the 4th Commandment,, Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Read the wonderful book of Ellen G White 'The Great Controversy' God bless you.
NO MEAT???????😮😮😮😮, Woo unto Jesus who gave bread and fish(meat) to over 5000 people. Please read the Bible and let go of extra biblical and cultic teachings of Ellen White. The Bible alone is sufficient
Jettbaker. Spot on, my true brother in Christ. He said, “if you love me, keep my commandments.” He also said, “I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in His love.” Jesus told us to do the same. Doug Bachelor speaks the Truth.
@@susankane8728 Wouldn’t be amazing to actually keep the commandments of Jesus and not the commandments that are the mosaic covenant given to Israel 430 years after Abraham and were to be kept until the Seed, that is Jesus. Read about it in Galatians. Paul explains it very clearly. And yes, the Ten Commandments ARE the mosaic covenant. Exodus 34:28
What is Isaiah 28 verse 10? 10 For precept must be upon precept, aprecept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. Babylon is Fallen - …3All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality. The kings of the earth were immoral with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown wealthy from the extravagance of her luxury.” 4Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. 5For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.… Rev 18: 4 Berean Standard Bible
Doug's point is The SDA church is God's Remnant, not because we are all saved but rather because we hold the oracles of truth (doctrinal purity), just as Israel. The Jewish nation in Christ's day, more than any other religion were safeguarding doctrinal purity or truth. Yet, the vast majority of them were lost, and rejected the Savior. Why? Because they did not experience new birth! So as a convert to this church I agree the SDA church appears doctrinal pure, yet there are those who have not been born again in our ranks, just as in any other church! True doctrine cannot save us, only Jesus can save. Yet God has a Remnant Church, a doctrinally pure church and our mission is to call all men back to sound doctrine. You seem to believe God has doctrinally divided churches with diametrically opposed teachings! You make God the author of confusion, which the Bible teaches He is not! I do appreciate you play the full clips of those you criticize; it makes it easy to respond to your opinions. God bless my friend!
Doug’s “point” is not found in John 10 or anywhere else in the Bible. THAT’s the point! Read John 10 and you’d never come up with Doug Batchelor’s imaginary nonsense. I’ll give you another equally ridiculous interpretation that has nothing to do with SDAs. My mother in law believes that every random thought is Jesus speaking to her because his sheep “ hear his voice”. Now, using the SDA method of Bible proof-texting, tell me why she’s wrong.
@jonasaras Where in the Bible does it say God has multiple churches with diametrically opposed doctrinal beliefs? I'll wait! Doug's point is most definitely found in John 10. His point was there is ONE-fold not many. He also claimed the other sheep were not of His fold now but will be called into the ONE fold. There is a Remnant church (singular). If you do not think you are in it, you should look elsewhere! Now Babylon has a multitude (plurality) of churches. Myles is simply confusing himself by his fine speech. He is quite eloquent but not very reasonable! God bless my friend!
@@BDB-lt5gdThe "one fold" that Christ was speaking of is the Church that He established via the Apostles on the Day of Pentecost 2000 years ago. That Church was established in Jerusalem first, and the Jerusalem Church never disappeared from history. It exists today. So does the Church of Antioch, the Church of Thessaloniki, the Church of Ephesus, in short practically all of the Churches that are mentioned in the New Testament still exist and never disappeared from history. Since those original Churches, established by the Apostles themselves, still exist and worship as they always have, how exactly is the SDA denomination the "one fold" spoken of in John 10 when it didn't come into existence until 1863? Where were the SDAs in the first century AD? I can tell you where the Apostolic Christians were, in the actual Apostolic Churches that were established at that time and still exist today.
Right, you can’t actually address what was in focus. John 10. No, John 10 isn’t about the SDA church. No, you guys aren’t the “one fold.” It’s literally about Gentiles being ingrafted into the single family of God which started with national Israelites. Yet you guys completely ignore that and jump on other things Doug said to ignore what I stated multiple times was the focus. That’s because you know he abused the text and Adventists need to stop using it the same way he does. Which is why we will continue making videos like this.
Like your channel, Satan's goal is to hide the truth. And if you think you're right, explain your place in the end-time church as relates to Rev 14:12. Where it says that saints keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Our love of the truth God is manifested in keeping His commandments, which He enables, and which I'm pretty sure you don't do.
And I am sure by keeping God's command, your church fooled you into BELIEVING this meant keeping the ten commandments especially the fourth commandment. Right?
Ugh. Mike, we have a website with hundreds of articles addressing all the standard fare, run of the mill, SDA proof texts and talking points. Please use it.
@gracejurian6728 The ten commandments are part of the EXPRESSED WILL of God. There's really no interpretation needed. Where in scripture is God’s expressed will, not what you'd like it to be, but what He says, canceled? What commandments do you think Rev14:12 is talking about?
_"..... never insulted Sunday worshpers ..."_ O REALLY?? So to tell people that they are from Babylon, agents of Rome, have the mark of the beast just because they worship God 7 days of a week, including on Sundays, aren't criticizing? You are a special kind of stupid.
Uhh...the remnant church existed before the SDA's. It will exist even if the SDA church vanishes from the Earth. The remnant are those who are not a part of Babylon; either by coming out of it or not joining it. Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. The SDA church believes that the Bible doctrine as understood includes the members within Christ's remnant. There is only one Biblical truth, not many. 41,000 denominations cannot all be right. Other denominations besides SDAs all belive their doctrine is right. Some believe it doesn't matter what you believe, and assuredly that is not right. Therefore, it is not wrong for the SDAs to believe their understanding is the most correct. As an SDA, one who left an evangelical, protestant denomination. I am not married to Adventism, I'm committed to accurate Biblical understanding. I'd drop my membership in a heartbeat if I found a more accurate doctrine. Any truthful believer of any denomination should keep moving to Biblical truth.
Then contact the GC and tell them to amend their teaching, in session, regarding their teaching on the Remnant. You clearly disagree with official SDA teaching as well as Doug Batchelor. So not sure how you can claim you ended up SDA in light of “biblical truth.” Babylon is the lost world, not Protestantism.
I get the passage above and I’m an SDA, and not once to we ever say that we are the true remnant church. We say that we have a special message from God that other dominations don’t preach… which is biblical prophesy. And before you bring madam White into this, she has inspired writings that she in all her books emphasize reading the Bible. She never credits her writings as part of the Bible. She was given the gift of prophecy and with it she shown light for people to read their bible or the last days will be very hard; which is something a good majority of the Christian denominations don’t do these days.
@@fidesuwase313 why do you guys falsely parrot this claim? Ellen white claimed you can’t even understand the Bible without her writings. That if you abandon her writings you’ll end up abandoning the Bible all together and end up in perdition. She claimed that rejecting her writings is an insult to the Holy Spirit. I seriously don’t get it. You’re on the wrong platform. We have addressed all these claims in great detail. It’s sad that you guys still parrot the SDA talking points. It isn’t going to work anymore. I’ve done the homework and people are seeing that. Please, stop. You’re only kidding yourself. We want you guys to come to know the truth. You aren’t fooling us.
From the SDA Church Manual,” In accordance with God’s uniform dealing with mankind, warning them of coming events that will vitally affect their destiny, He has sent forth a proclamation of the approaching return of Christ. This preparatory message is symbolized by the three angels’ messages of Revelation 14, and meets its fulfillment in the great Second Advent Movement today. This has brought forth the remnant, or Seventh-day Adventist Church, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus”.
EG White said this about the church >>>>“The church, ENFEEBLED and DEFECTIVE, needing to be REPROVED, WARNED, and COUNSELED, is the only object upon earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard.”
You stated on Sam's channel @29:50 that fundamental belief No.1 is "AN" authoritative source of truth.. What i read is this, 1. Holy Scriptures The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration. The inspired authors spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to humanity the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the supreme, authoritative, and the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the definitive revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God’s acts in history. (Ps. 119:105; Prov. 30:5, 6; Isa. 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Heb. 4:12; 2 Peter 1:20, 21.) Why did you lie?
Where does it say it's the ONLY infallible and authoritative source? It doesn't. Which means its AN (one of). Why's that? Oh, because you ignored Fundamental Belief #18 which says, in part... "The Scriptures testify that one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and we believe it was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church." What's that? Ellen White's writing speak with PROPHECTIC AUTHORITY. Which means, scripture isn't the only one, it's AN authority. So are Ellen White's writings. Which is why in their official statement of confidence in her writings they state that she "corrects inaccurate interpretations of scripture," making her the infallible interpreter, which we have also shown they openly state this in their Sabbath School Quarterly. Whoops! Why are you now bearing false witness?
@@deusvultelect3389 Right, you bore false witness, got called on it, now you're squirming. I didn't lie. Get over it. How's about you come onto the platform live and we discuss it and see who has and hasn't done their homework and who is and isn't lying. Put up or sit down. We don't play these games. If you want to claim I am lying, we will demonstrate this isn't the case. As I am not a liar.
@@answeringadventism Ellen G. White I exalt the precious Word before you today. Do not repeat what I have said, saying, ‘Sister White said this,’ and ‘Sister White said that.’ Find out what the Lord God of Israel says, and then do what He commands.
Right, you ignore the substance of the video to complain about me and not Doug twisting the scriptures and misleading people. You’ve commented three times on this platform. You couldn’t possibly know how often we preach the gospel. Have you even visited our website? www.answeringadventism.com I proclaim the gospel CONSTANTLY on this platform. Whether it’s in video, on our website, in email with people that reach out privately, etc. You don’t even see a fraction of what we do. You’re just trying to find fault. At least take the time to look into what your criticize first like we have regarding Adventism.
I’m not a church goer but if you used the words Seventh-Day Adventist instead of SDA THIER message is really this. The remnant are all people’s of the world and during the Great Tribulation this true church or group of people known as Jesus followers will be just that not a church of man.
They literally violate the first commandment because they proselytize a false god (an idol). They violate the third commandment by uplifting a woman that bore Gods name falsely repeatedly claiming it was from God. They violate the sixth commandment in their hospitals where they are one of the largest murder mill networks in California. They violate the ninth commandment constantly by bearing false witness against the Christian church (which is hardcoded into their system of theology). But also, congrats! You win the award for first comment that has nothing to do with what the video addresses. 👏
I’m glad you found a Christian church you’re happy with! I’m thinking about attending the SDA church in my town, it’s wonderful they have the alternative baptismal vow.
_"They keep commandments and don’t condemn non-trinitarians."_ Yeah, how can they condemn "NON TRINITARIANS" if their origin was born out of non-trinitarians?
My brother, you can talk and talk about Adventism and gossip more and more to convince and make your brothers and sisters feel good. But Adventism is unique and special who worship on the Bible Sabbath not on Sunday - man made day.
I've always thought of the SDA church as just another denomination that worships on Saturdays. I only started to dig into what they actually believe when my uncle joined them and started exhibiting the most arrogant, cultish behavior I've ever witnessed.
When Jesus said "other sheep have I that I need to bring into the fold"that prophesy was fulfilled from Pentecost onwards when Gentiles and unconverted Jews were brought into the fold and has nothing to do with a cult that was birthed in 1844
Why parade around the stage with the Bible, if you are just going to read from your notes filled with proof texts that you stuck on the front page?
It's not the first time I have seen him do this, as if he is trying so hard to prove to the world that his teachings are purely Biblical.
This guy is creepy and deceptive.
Can you imagine Dr Jay Vernon McGee Thru the Bible series doing this? Face Palm.
Doug Bachelor does not have a deceptive bone in his body. It’s clear that some of you have never studied the Bible and know little of Prophecy. But God gives grace, yes?
@@susankane8728 yes, because it's DRUMMED in your heads that only SDA's know the Bible, right?
Sorry to burst your bubble but we do know our Bibles, and we do know that John and Ephesians are in the NT, not the front page of the Bible.
Only the Holy Spirit can convict of righteousness, of sin and of judgement. No one can drum anything into our heads, we are not that and gullible, but SDAs have a wonderful plan of daily study and SS class that equips for understanding all the truth of God’s Word. I Never got that in any other church I attended.
@@susankane8728 I'm sorry that you never got that in any church that you attended, but to assume that of every other Christian church is narrow-minded.
I believe Adventists have no idea how other churches work
In the Anglican church here in Canberra if a person or family decide to join a Penticostal Baptist or Presbyterian church they are invited to join the minister at the front of the church to say their goodbys and they are encouraged in front of everyone present to continue in the faith in their new church. This will not happen in an Adventist church .
Our King is head of the Anglican church but when he visits Scotland he is a Presbyterian
Exactly. It isn’t seen as apostasy or abandoning the faith. Not so with Adventism.
The only way Doungs ever going to win a debate is against himself!
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Nah, he’d still lose that debate…. On both sides 😂
And when I read such comments I see a very religious spirit!
It’s an ugly spirit of hate.
That clown has brainwashed so many people from the truth.
SDA's gospel mission is to save those that worship on a Sunday to come to the true Sabbath Saturday.
This is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As Paul stated If anyone else preaches a different Gospel. Let them be a curse.
You are saved from faith not works. You cannot serve 2 masters for one will hate the other.
I cannot serve Moses and Jesus at the same time.
The Law is from the tribe of Levi and it is clear that that you cannot add nor take away from the Law of Moses.
Yet Jesus has new Laws that fulfill all other Laws.
Jesus is not from the Tribe of Levi, he is from the tribe of Judah, I'm am from the tribe of Judah and not subjected
to follow the Laws of Moses as he is from the tribe of Levi.
Love you all and God bless you.
Exactly, their mission, just like orher cults, is to get the believers in Christ out of the Churches, the body of Christ. They never to to the Jews, the Muslims, the budhist and others.
You are always on point - as usual. I don't understand how one can deliberately twist the Word of God like this but then EGW has been a Scripture twister and a Liar from the foundation of Her church, the SDA church, so Doug has been taught by the best!
In John 10:16, Jesus is referring to the Israelites and the rest of the world; Jews and gentiles. Those of us who would come to know God through Him; Christians who would be called the "people of God," in the New Testament as the Israelites, God's chosen people were called in the Old Testament.
John 10:16: "And OTHER SHEEP (Gentiles/non Israelites/non Jews) I have which are not of THIS FOLD (Israel/Jews): them (Gentiles) also I must bring, and they (Gentiles) shall hear MY VOICE; (Jesus' words) and there shall be ONE FOLD, and ONE SHEPHERD." (Both Jew and Gentile would no longer be separated but be as One Body) Jesus would BRING this other sheep to the fold through His Death and Resurrection. Before Jesus Christ, Gentiles were not considered to be God's people in any way. Jews and Gentiles were not ONE under God's First Covenant with Israel; the Old Covenant, the Old Testament - but under the Second Covenant, the New Covenant, the New Testament, things changed. JESUS is the One Shepherd; CHRISTIANS from ALL and ANY church denomination, whether one chooses to worship on a Saturday or Sunday - we make up the One Fold spoken of in this verse making Jesus OUR Shepherd.
But OMG! The poor souls in Adventism believe otherwise which in turn makes GOD and JESUS LIARS - according to their theology, of course. Do they realize what they're doing by twisting Scriptures? Obviously not! They have changed the whole Gospel of Jesus Christ - which only their followers believe.
CHRISTIANITY came with Jesus Christ - bringing Jews and Gentiles together as followers of Christ for before Christ, Jews and Gentiles were a separate group of people; Israelites were the "people of God" and Gentiles/non-Israelites were classed as "heathens; people who did not know God." The "other nations," or "Israel's enemies" whom God was driving out before the Israelites were Gentiles - yet Adventism's theology claim that WE - Gentiles/non-Israelites/non-Jews were given the Ten Commandments/the Law of Moses/the Law, when Scripture states specifically and explicitly, that the Ten Commandments was given to the Children of Israel. With their theology, it means that Gentiles/the other nations/Israel's enemies were together with them, in the wilderness, on Mount Sinai when God gave Moses the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20! (Adventists, be sure to read verse 22. Again, this makes God out to be a LIAR because, according to Doug, the SDA church was given the "oracles of truth!" My God! 😮😮😮
Paul says in Romans 3:2 - "...because that unto them (Israelites/Jews) were committed the "oracles of God." This means Israel had been given the Word of God - through Moses, and the various prophets who ministered to Israel before Christ came. Note that it didn't say the "oracles of truth" -and it wasn't given to the 'nation of SDA'S' 😁 or the SDA church.
Deuteronomy 4:7-8 - "For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for? "And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?"
Scripture further states in Samuel 7:23 - "And what one nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, ...which thou redeemedest to thee from Egypt (Gentiles), from the nations and their God's?
So we see and know that SDA'S Fundamental Belief #13 is an outright lie and the Scriptures used as evidence, to prove a lie, does not pertain to the SDA church. This 'Remnant and its mission" is EGW'S remnant - not God's remnant - and they are carrying out EGW'S mission - not God's. Neither are SDA'S Jesus' remnant because His remnant includes all people who believe in Him and His Commandments till the end; for when one keeps the Commandments of Christ, one is also keeping the commandments of God. There is no distinction between Jew and Gentile farless SDA'S and other Christians. Revelation 12:17 is not exclusively yours, SDA or else this makes God a LIAR. I should say that YOU make Him out to be a Liar!
But I'll say this: if SDA'S think they are special, a "peculiar people," then they really are because no other Christian except one is a follower of EGW, a member of the SDA church understands Scripture as they do.
I pray that many SDA’s will be willing to test their doctrines. Their church is not only teaching them false doctrines, but is also lying to them about Christians and what we actually believe. And I hate lies! It’s time to speak the truth!
You can pray as much as you want, maybe it will save a few, for it was God Himself who blinded them because they rejected the truth.
What lie has the SDA church said about other churches?
@@finaldaylight3804
For 1, that they are from Babylon for not following the False Pharisee sabbath doctrine for instance.
2) That sunday worshipers will end up in hell. Also not found in the Bible.
So what else do you want to know about your satanic demon worshiping cult if I may ask?
@@finaldaylight3804 They call Christians Sunday keepers, and that’s a lie. We don’t keep Sunday holy (nor any other day). They say we believe in immortality of the soul. Also, not true. They also say that Constantine changed sabbath to be on Sundays. Also not true. It’s not because of him that we worship together on Sundays, it’s actually because the first church in the Bible did that!! I could go on, but I think for the beginning this is enough. If you are really curious you will look deep into this things.
@@life.after.adventism You are called "Sunday Keepers" because you go to church on Sunday.
You do believe in the immortality of the soul because you teach that once one dies, they either go to heaven or hell.
Constantine did change the Sabbath to be Sunday..the first church NEVER kept Sunday, even the catholic church acknowledges this that the true day of worship is Saturday, not Sunday
That literally speaks of Jews and gentiles.
Yup. Shameful. Total eisegesis on Doug’s part.
@@answeringadventism This film of Doug needs a "Bad lip reading" make over.
@@answeringadventism my friend can we have a talk I have questions
When I talk to people about Christian denominations, I say we have unity on the essentials and liberty on the non essentials. I do not agree with the Adventist essentials, there for we are not in unity.
Spot on! As a former SDA, this is good to know that other churches stand together on the fundamental beliefs. SDA have their own fundamental beliefs.
Jesus told His disciples He would make them fishers of men; the SDA church tells their disciples we will make you fishers in others fishbowls.
"For the Word of God is Quick,and Powerful,and is Sharper than any
Two-edged Sword,piercing even the dividing asunder of soul and spirit,
and of joints and morrow, and is a
Discerner of the thoughts an intents
of the heart." Heb.4:12
Dougie is SDA's comedian. I watch most his presentation to listen to what he used to preach. Myles you nailed this.🙏
If Batman needs a new super villain ,MEET two tone
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No!!! Joker and 2face will be lonely 😂🤣
I am distracted by Doug Batchelor's two-color suit! He looks like a henchman for the Batman villain Two Face.
Which was rather ironic considering the presentation, haha.
Thanks for your production with test the prophet. He is an incredible man and a blessing as you are.
I have been praying for over a year before you connected with him that you two would work together. The Lord answered my prayers. Being directly related to a former conference president of multiple states and vp of general conference. I participate in praising God that some are set free from the sda cult that my family is currently and was involved in the promotion of the sda doctrines. Praise God for every one that is set free and born again into Jesus Christ and Him crucified alone.
Thank you guys.
"There is no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,who walk not
after the flesh,but after the Spirit."
Doug Bachelor and Shawn Boonstra had their TV 📺 programs and disseminated The 7th Day Adventist Doctrine. They have popularized it and their seed have been sown widely.
This makes my blood boil 🔥 …….every time I watch him, I have to calm myself down and remember that God has everything under control. Doug can keep preaching a false message and lead people to believe a cursed message, but eventually he will have to answer to Jesus. But James, in chapter one, already let us all know about people like Doug. I hope its worth it.
Apparently, God doesn't have you under control, brother.
Doug really grinds my gears too.
@@mikejacobson14I think it’s a righteous anger.
@@ejcraig I doubt that.
@@ejcraig Don't watch him if you can't reason.
“The church, ENFEEBLED and DEFECTIVE, needing to be REPROVED, WARNED, and COUNSELED, is the only object upon earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard.” EG White
So aptly quoted from John Harris's book "The Great Teacher." Ellen White is not the original author of these words. She stole them from Harris who wrote his book when she was a young girl and before she had a ministry at all. John Harris includes all of God's children in his writing of the statement and Ellen White indicates that only SDAs are God's church.
"Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect?It is God that justifies.
Who is He that condemneth,?It is
Christ that died."
Disagreed with this even before Batchelor finished his discourse.. utter nonsense to view a denomination in this way.
There’s only one church, one Lord, one baptism, and one God.
I belong to a pentacostal church and we dont preach that we are the true church or the remenant church or if you dont join are church you are going to hell its not bibical what the sda church teaches
I watched much of Millennium of Prophecy and printed out all the study guides. More than most of the scripture verses were ripped out of context to prooftext the SDA narrative. In that series only once or twice does Doug mention he's SDA and only in one of the lesson print outs is EGW mentioned. This seemed rather deceptive to me.
Very good observation!
"He's given him to be the head over all things to the church which is his body the fulness of him who fills all in all."
Doug uses the word deceptively. Poor interpretation.
So they are replacement theology??
Big time. And not the caricatured claim that many are labeled with. The true kind.
Revelation 2:9!
@Answering Adventism Thank you, I'm 49 I left SDA back when I was 13-14 lost my way for many years, my father is still in the SDA church and we've been at war with each other over SDA doctrine for more than 3 decades and still are :( but thanks for affirming I made the right choice to tack well clear of them. (X-Chelmsford SDA Church) .. I still care about the old childhood family, just wish they'd understand things from a different point of view and let Jesus do the talking instead of EGW
I love it that D.B. has a suit just like Batman's arch villian, Two-Face. This 'poking and prodding' by my family used to bother me (I am a Baptist now, praise the Lord, praise King Jesus) because I felt defeated, but now, I smile wanly. Such jovial people inside a denomination that preaches "another Jesus" and serves "the queen of heaven" (EGW)
Dougie did double speak. This is good stuff. You should be able to build off this for years to come
It was as plain as black and white. Stand up comedy at its best.
It is said that in the end, the true church will keep ALL the commandments.
MANY Christian denominations do not keep all the commandments, they keep them all but then conveniently leave out the 7th Day Sabbath..and instead keep the Roman Catholic "Sabbath"..Sunday.
_"It is said that in the end, the true church will keep ALL the commandments."_
And you sucked this BS sda doctrine out of your right or left thumb?
Not even close. The SDA church teaches a false Christ and a false god which is idolatry, breaking all 4 of the first commandments. You can’t keep the first 4 (which are about God) if you have the wrong God.
The SDA church violates the 6th commandment by sanctioning murder in their hospital networks.
The SDA church violates the 9th commandment constantly by slandering and bearing false witness about Christian’s. It’s hardcoded into the system of theology.
You guys are kidding yourself.
The SDA Church has allowed abortion in its hospitals. That’s breaking one of the Ten Commandments. Ergo the SDA Church cannot be the “remnant church”.
@@answeringadventism nice of you to delete my replies to you that expose your hypocrisy and double standard..lol
This Doug is such deceiver
All cults are the same: principally SDA, JW, RC, Mormons. They have quite the same attitude as the Moslems.
Either the teach a 'false' Jesus: the Muslims' Jesus never died on the cross, the one of the JW' is the 'angel Michel', the one of the Mormons is the 'brother' of satan, for the RC he is still a little child, without any power or authority...or they have their 'own' prophets who are 'superior to Jesus (Ellen G. White, Muhammad, Charles Russel, Joseph Smith...
Pray for the Lord's sheep which are in those cults to come out and be saved.
Absolutely. That's why this platform exists-to equip Christians to reach those caught in this dangerous cult.
@@answeringadventism
True... But they're so stubborn and proud and blind. I know a lot of them and my own brother and sister are JW... It's not easy to discuss with, but the Lord knows His Owns. Shalom
Should have been better if his Bible is covered white in front, and the back cover is black....
Lol 😂 true
.."It has often been presented to me that there should be less sermonizing by ministers, acting merely as local pastors of churches, and that greater personal efforts should be put forth. Our people should not be made to think that they need to listen to a sermon every Sabbath. Many who listen frequently to sermons, even though the truth be presented in clear lines, learn but little. Often it would be more profitable if the Sabbath meetings were of the nature of a Bible-class study." 21 LtMs Lt 192
he literally just said as long as you feel like your church is based on truth and preaches truth, its normal to want to invite others. he said something any Church would say. You people just love to hate
That’s all he said? He didn’t abuse John 10, mention the SDA church as the remnant, and misrepresent what the SDA church actually means by being the remnant like we looked at from their own website?
Quite the case of selective listening.
...A JESUS, who doesn't break the Sabbath... is A FAKE JESUS. -John 5:16-18
New King James Version
Honor the Father and the Son
16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, [a]and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath. 17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I HAVE BEEN WORKING.”
18 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because HE NOT ONLY BROKE THE SABBATH, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.
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...A JESUS, who doesn't make wine... is A FAKE JESUS. -John 2:7-10
New King James Version
7 Jesus said to them, “Fill the waterpots with water.” And they filled them up to the brim. 8 And He said to them, “Draw some out now, and take it to the master of the feast.” And they took it. 9 When the master of the feast had tasted THE WATER THAT WAS MADE WINE, and did not know where it came from (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom. 10 And he said to him, “Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!”
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...A JESUS, who doesn't speak of the dead in torment... is A FAKE JESUS. -Luke 16:25-28
New King James Version
25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and YOU ARE TORMENTED. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’
27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to THIS PLACE OF TORMENT.’
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...A JESUS, named MICHAEL... is A FAKE JESUS. -Acts 4:10-12
New King James Version
10 let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that BY THE NAME of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for THERE IS NO OTHER NAME under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
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Anything UNIQUE that SDAs teach, is demonstrably UN-TRUE. Don't invite others, to embrace THE LIES... of A FAKE CHURCH.
A faithful witness does not lie,
But a false witness will utter lies.
Proverbs 14:5 NKJV
These voices of accusation against God’s clear Word, are Not of the Holy Spirit.
@@susankane8728 In other words, scriptural facts... are embarrassing? -and probably evil?
Only to those who are accusing the man of God of that. I will not argue with people who take a few verses, in the whole Bible, out of context and create their own gospel and their own Jesus. Farewell.
The Roman vhurch were the first to introduce Sunday worship to the world and their catechism states that Saturday is the Sabbath of God.
Doesn't any body feel like keeping Saturday the Sabbath of God instead of Sunday the Sabbath of the romans
Sunday worship was introduced by the Apostles with the authority of Christ because Jesus resurrected on Sunday.
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
_" actually .. Jesus didn't rise on the first day of the week."_
*WOW* and what BS comic book did convicted you of such non-sense??
"In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sculpture."
"And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it."
Matthew 28
" *AND WHEN THE SABBATH WAS PAST* ....... And very early in the morning the first day of the week ..."
"Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week," Mark 16
I suggest that you spend more time between the pages of God s Word before spreading BS doctrines.
Dougie boi is about the money and his italian shoes. The lies flow from him like water.
I saw a picture of Doug and his wife online that reminded me of a couple of chipmunks gloating over their harvest of nuts.
How dare u to insult the elderly
@@Moses-o3t
I agree about the elderly being insulted. It is insulting to the elderly when people grift them for their money by frightening them with false messages.
Couldn't help but notice doug batchelors masonic suit....
This is about which denomination (name, corporate) rules- in DB's eyes and believes it is Ellen often known as Seventh Day Adventist religion.
Doug Batchelor is too dishonest to be a real Christian who actually knows Christ. Doug strikes me as a lost soul doing his best impersonation of what he thinks a Christian should be, but is empty of the Holy Spirit. That man does not know the truth, the Spirit of truth is clearly not in him.
Sadly true. We need to be in prayer over him and the millions he influences.
It’s why we respond to him and other big name SDAs. They influence millions globally.
Wrong
Wrong, that they are in error and Yes, they influence thousands for the Truth of Jesus Christ.
Ah, yes “millions” is actually right.
@@susankane8728 If you are relying on works of the law of Moses for any part of your salvation (like SDA's do) you are not in the truth of Jesus Christ. You need to pray for wisdom and discernment so you can escape that very dangerous cult.
What are the consequences of giving importance to doctrines, dogma &rituals? History gives the answer: Endless disputes, absence of affection & feelings of superiority. There would be no disputation with Adventists if attention was given to those things that Christ emphasized: love, justice, compassion & humility
2nd corinthians 3 6 for christ have made us able ministers of the new covenant not the letter which killeth but of the spirit which gives life
And the REMNANT OF HER SEED that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have the faith of Jesus Christ. There are Ten commandments not nine.. Rev 18 asks Christians to come out of Babylon. Just like the parable of Matthew 20 . It has a dual meaning both for the JEWS/GENTILES as well as Christians serving God from long time vs the thief on the cross getting the same wages
Yes it is the mission of Christians to call persons out of errors/ BABYLON Rev 18: . If God didn't inject these errors and abominations into the church then it must be the enemy and that same enemy if he can cause 1/3rd of the angels to loose their souls, he certainly know how to cause Christians to stray. Same trickbthat worked in Eden to minimize the solemnity and seriousness of Gods commands. To make sure that you are not fallen focus on Gods word and not the populous
Ellen White's oracle of LIES😂
Have you read 'The Great Controversy' You should.
@@jettbaker7690U MEAN ONE OF THE BOOKS UR FALSE PROPHET PLAGERIZED THE MOST? U PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP FROM UR INDOCTRINATION
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv oioioi, one can truly say you are somewhere out there.
@@jettbaker7690 Which one? In North America there is "The 1858 Great Controversy" her fist one which she actually wrote, and in 1884 she wrote "The 1884 Great Controversy", This one she calls her best work.
Also in that same year a committee of 5 conference members were delegated to re-edit and rewrite this book and the original testimonies.
In 1888 the committee of 5 published "The 1888 Great Controversy" and put EGW's name on it, with over 200 pages of re-editing from the 1884 version. This prosses was done again in 1911, with more re-editing, this time WW Prescott was a major influence in the writing of "The 1911 Great Controversy". The SDA people are lied to, by the White Estate and the SDA Conference, about her and books.
The book "Desire of Ages" was compiled by the White Estate staff secretary Marion B Davis, plagiarizing the work of Samuel J. Andrews, "The Life of Our Lord Upon the Earth". EGW did not write this book, which also has errors in it as do all the EGW books circulating in SDA conference book stores.
Am I the only one who is flabbergasted by the black and white suit reminiscent of Freemasonry symbolism? It's like hidden in plain sight.
Dough just a trumpet!!!!
Every allegation this man brings against the SDA Church, he needs to point in his own direction. Beware of how Commandment breakers love to refer to Sabbath keepers as Pharisees. It’s almost a joke.
Jesus called the Pharisaical Jews Pharisees. I simply reiterated what he stated. lol
"Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things, and said to him, “Are we also blind?” Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains."-John 9:40
That's the end of chapter 9 leading to chapter 10 with Jesus speaking to the same individuals. Take it up with Jesus, Susan.
_"Commandment breakers love to refer to Sabbath keepers as Pharisees. "_
*NO* , its not a joke, we are dead serious when we called you cult followers Pharisees, for that is what you are.
Don't be ashamed of your deeds, for you are the ones that believe that sabbath keeping means eternal life and that Jesus works at the cross didn't saved no one of their sins.
Yes, both statements was published by your beloved prophet, the witch EGW. So get over your supremacy, you are spiritual blind simple as that
Yes, as we all must.
Insults - Jesus took many of these, w/o flinching. Revelation tells us we will come together “from one moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another” to Worship before God’s throne.
The SDA message diverts people from Jesus Christ and the gospel message. If someone thinks that their works can change their character and that they can make themselves 'perfect' ( though the SDA church doesn't understand what perfect means anyhow) then they will be prone to feel entitled to God's gifts as if they earned them and also be judgemental of others who they don't feel are measuring up to their Ellen made rules- kind of like the pharisees.
Brings to mind Matthew 22:12 where the man showed up at the wedding banquet not dressed in wedding clothes.
They not his fold, how come they listen to him!!!
Before y'all go ahead judging Doug u should all remember that God's remnants keep all the ten commandments
So try finding out about which actually is th Sabbath
God actually has way more than just “ten commandments”, the greatest of which is to Love God and Love your neighbor.
Linguistically, there’s no such thing as “Ten Commandments”, the Hebrew word is “devar” (word) not “miztov” (commandments) in other words it’s the “ten words” or “ten sayings”, that’s why the word “Decalogue” is used, (Deca = Ten) + (Logos = Words) = Ten Words. God did not give “ten commandments” at Sinai per se, he gave a Law which consistent of over 600 Commandments, among which Ten are used as an executive summary representing the whole.
God remnants are those who keep the commandments of the heart (love) NOT what's written on stone. Furthermore SDA cannot be a remnant church when their founders didn't originally recognize a Sabbath but was told about it from someone else. They then monetized on the name "SDA" to make a profit from people like you and used the misinterpretation of the Catholic church to further cement their cause. All SDA members are suckers.
The Mormons say the same thing using that same verse the only true church are the ones that continue in teachings of Jesus and the apostles
..."All Of Em, Hirelings"! Come Out Of All Of Em, O Lost Sheep Of The House Of Israel!!!
* Genesis 48 : 15 - 19
* Deuteronomy 4
* 1 Kings 12
* Jeremiah 31
* Romans 11
* Ephesians 2
Interesting that you did not use the Seventh Day Adventist in the different denominations. You seem very angry about the SDA Church. I am new to the Bible and all denominations in the USA coming from Europe, there is catholicism and protestantism, mainly,was when I was young. I heard Doug Batchelor say once on Growing Truth Radio, if there is a denomination closer to the Bible, he will go there. Isn't it true, followers of Christ are a peculiar people, no jewelry, no tatoos, no riches, simple clothes, no alcohol, no cigarettes, no meat, no adultery, no lying and so much more, but one thing very much, to love thy naighbour and to honor God. And isn't Doug Batchelor as well thy neighbour? That is why I like the Seventh Day Adventist Church - it's the 4th Commandment,, Remember the Sabbath Day, to keep it holy. Read the wonderful book of Ellen G White 'The Great Controversy' God bless you.
Can you show from the Bible that Christians today should not wear jewelry, should not drink alcohol and so on? Show me from the Bible!
NO MEAT???????😮😮😮😮, Woo unto Jesus who gave bread and fish(meat) to over 5000 people.
Please read the Bible and let go of extra biblical and cultic teachings of Ellen White. The Bible alone is sufficient
Jettbaker. Spot on, my true brother in Christ. He said, “if you love me, keep my commandments.” He also said, “I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in His love.” Jesus told us to do the same. Doug Bachelor speaks the Truth.
@@susankane8728 Wouldn’t be amazing to actually keep the commandments of Jesus and not the commandments that are the mosaic covenant given to Israel 430 years after Abraham and were to be kept until the Seed, that is Jesus. Read about it in Galatians. Paul explains it very clearly. And yes, the Ten Commandments ARE the mosaic covenant. Exodus 34:28
@@susankane8728 So do yourself a favor and start studying the Bible in context to find out what does Jesus commands the new covenant believers.
he's right about the peculiar people lol
In SDA BELIEVE OTHER CHRISTIAN IS NON BELIEVER, yes they are arrogant. What the said is not what they mean!!! HE LIE !!!
What is Isaiah 28 verse 10? 10 For precept must be upon precept, aprecept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Babylon is Fallen - …3All the nations have drunk the wine of the passion of her immorality. The kings of the earth were immoral with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown wealthy from the extravagance of her luxury.” 4Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or contract any of her plagues. 5For her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities.… Rev 18: 4 Berean Standard Bible
Pastor Barney won that debate.😅
Doug's point is The SDA church is God's Remnant, not because we are all saved but rather because we hold the oracles of truth (doctrinal purity), just as Israel. The Jewish nation in Christ's day, more than any other religion were safeguarding doctrinal purity or truth. Yet, the vast majority of them were lost, and rejected the Savior. Why? Because they did not experience new birth! So as a convert to this church I agree the SDA church appears doctrinal pure, yet there are those who have not been born again in our ranks, just as in any other church! True doctrine cannot save us, only Jesus can save. Yet God has a Remnant Church, a doctrinally pure church and our mission is to call all men back to sound doctrine. You seem to believe God has doctrinally divided churches with diametrically opposed teachings! You make God the author of confusion, which the Bible teaches He is not!
I do appreciate you play the full clips of those you criticize; it makes it easy to respond to your opinions.
God bless my friend!
Doug’s “point” is not found in John 10 or anywhere else in the Bible. THAT’s the point! Read John 10 and you’d never come up with Doug Batchelor’s imaginary nonsense.
I’ll give you another equally ridiculous interpretation that has nothing to do with SDAs. My mother in law believes that every random thought is Jesus speaking to her because his sheep “ hear his voice”. Now, using the SDA method of Bible proof-texting, tell me why she’s wrong.
@jonasaras Where in the Bible does it say God has multiple churches with diametrically opposed doctrinal beliefs? I'll wait! Doug's point is most definitely found in John 10. His point was there is ONE-fold not many. He also claimed the other sheep were not of His fold now but will be called into the ONE fold. There is a Remnant church (singular). If you do not think you are in it, you should look elsewhere! Now Babylon has a multitude (plurality) of churches. Myles is simply confusing himself by his fine speech. He is quite eloquent but not very reasonable!
God bless my friend!
@@BDB-lt5gdThe "one fold" that Christ was speaking of is the Church that He established via the Apostles on the Day of Pentecost 2000 years ago. That Church was established in Jerusalem first, and the Jerusalem Church never disappeared from history. It exists today. So does the Church of Antioch, the Church of Thessaloniki, the Church of Ephesus, in short practically all of the Churches that are mentioned in the New Testament still exist and never disappeared from history. Since those original Churches, established by the Apostles themselves, still exist and worship as they always have, how exactly is the SDA denomination the "one fold" spoken of in John 10 when it didn't come into existence until 1863? Where were the SDAs in the first century AD? I can tell you where the Apostolic Christians were, in the actual Apostolic Churches that were established at that time and still exist today.
@@BDB-lt5gd SDA Church is God's "Remnant Church." Not Biblical. No denomination is called the Remnant.
Right, you can’t actually address what was in focus. John 10. No, John 10 isn’t about the SDA church. No, you guys aren’t the “one fold.” It’s literally about Gentiles being ingrafted into the single family of God which started with national Israelites.
Yet you guys completely ignore that and jump on other things Doug said to ignore what I stated multiple times was the focus. That’s because you know he abused the text and Adventists need to stop using it the same way he does. Which is why we will continue making videos like this.
What a clown suit Doug Batchelor Batchelor is wearing, it seems to represent good and bad combined.
Just follow Christ and ignore all the RUclips “experts” no matter what they claim
Like your channel, Satan's goal is to hide the truth. And if you think you're right, explain your place in the end-time church as relates to Rev 14:12. Where it says that saints keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Our love of the truth God is manifested in keeping His commandments, which He enables, and which I'm pretty sure you don't do.
And I am sure by keeping God's command, your church fooled you into BELIEVING this meant keeping the ten commandments especially the fourth commandment. Right?
Ugh. Mike, we have a website with hundreds of articles addressing all the standard fare, run of the mill, SDA proof texts and talking points. Please use it.
@gracejurian6728 The ten commandments are part of the EXPRESSED WILL of God. There's really no interpretation needed. Where in scripture is God’s expressed will, not what you'd like it to be, but what He says, canceled? What commandments do you think Rev14:12 is talking about?
Amen. God’s Ten stand forever. Even in Heaven they will be His Law- for they are a transcript of His character.
@@answeringadventism Why would I refer to your website for truth when all I've found there so far is error?
Where did you find in the Bible a collective believers. Stop 🚫 fool yourselves.
And Doug never insulted Sunday worshpers but u are all criticizing him
Doesn't that sound like profecy unfolding
_"..... never insulted Sunday worshpers ..."_
O REALLY??
So to tell people that they are from Babylon, agents of Rome, have the mark of the beast just because they worship God 7 days of a week, including on Sundays, aren't criticizing?
You are a special kind of stupid.
Uhh...the remnant church existed before the SDA's. It will exist even if the SDA church vanishes from the Earth.
The remnant are those who are not a part of Babylon; either by coming out of it or not joining it.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
The SDA church believes that the Bible doctrine as understood includes the members within Christ's remnant.
There is only one Biblical truth, not many. 41,000 denominations cannot all be right. Other denominations besides SDAs all belive their doctrine is right.
Some believe it doesn't matter what you believe, and assuredly that is not right. Therefore, it is not wrong for the SDAs to believe their understanding is the most correct.
As an SDA, one who left an evangelical, protestant denomination. I am not married to Adventism, I'm committed to accurate Biblical understanding. I'd drop my membership in a heartbeat if I found a more accurate doctrine.
Any truthful believer of any denomination should keep moving to Biblical truth.
Then contact the GC and tell them to amend their teaching, in session, regarding their teaching on the Remnant.
You clearly disagree with official SDA teaching as well as Doug Batchelor. So not sure how you can claim you ended up SDA in light of “biblical truth.”
Babylon is the lost world, not Protestantism.
Come out of her my people !that's referring to SDA!! coming out of SDA! so they get the real Jesus)!! they still don't have the real Jesus!
I get the passage above and I’m an SDA, and not once to we ever say that we are the true remnant church. We say that we have a special message from God that other dominations don’t preach… which is biblical prophesy. And before you bring madam White into this, she has inspired writings that she in all her books emphasize reading the Bible. She never credits her writings as part of the Bible. She was given the gift of prophecy and with it she shown light for people to read their bible or the last days will be very hard; which is something a good majority of the Christian denominations don’t do these days.
@@fidesuwase313 why do you guys falsely parrot this claim? Ellen white claimed you can’t even understand the Bible without her writings. That if you abandon her writings you’ll end up abandoning the Bible all together and end up in perdition. She claimed that rejecting her writings is an insult to the Holy Spirit.
I seriously don’t get it. You’re on the wrong platform. We have addressed all these claims in great detail. It’s sad that you guys still parrot the SDA talking points. It isn’t going to work anymore. I’ve done the homework and people are seeing that.
Please, stop. You’re only kidding yourself. We want you guys to come to know the truth. You aren’t fooling us.
From the SDA Church Manual,” In accordance with God’s uniform dealing with mankind, warning them of coming events that will vitally affect their destiny, He has sent forth a proclamation of the approaching return of Christ. This preparatory message is symbolized by the three angels’ messages of Revelation 14, and meets its fulfillment in the great Second Advent Movement today. This has brought forth the remnant, or Seventh-day Adventist Church, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus”.
The comment section is full of judgment and criticism. Let God decide…
Possibly because Adventism might be one of the most judgmental and critical of others movements out there.
slick willie dougie!!!!!
EG White said this about the church >>>>“The church, ENFEEBLED and DEFECTIVE, needing to be REPROVED, WARNED, and COUNSELED, is the only object upon earth upon which Christ bestows His supreme regard.”
You stated on Sam's channel @29:50 that fundamental belief No.1 is "AN" authoritative source of truth..
What i read is this,
1. Holy Scriptures
The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration.
The inspired authors spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to humanity the knowledge necessary for salvation.
The Holy Scriptures are the supreme, authoritative, and the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the definitive revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God’s acts in history.
(Ps. 119:105; Prov. 30:5, 6; Isa. 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Heb. 4:12; 2 Peter 1:20, 21.)
Why did you lie?
Where does it say it's the ONLY infallible and authoritative source? It doesn't. Which means its AN (one of). Why's that? Oh, because you ignored Fundamental Belief #18 which says, in part...
"The Scriptures testify that one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and we believe it was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church."
What's that? Ellen White's writing speak with PROPHECTIC AUTHORITY. Which means, scripture isn't the only one, it's AN authority. So are Ellen White's writings. Which is why in their official statement of confidence in her writings they state that she "corrects inaccurate interpretations of scripture," making her the infallible interpreter, which we have also shown they openly state this in their Sabbath School Quarterly.
Whoops! Why are you now bearing false witness?
@@answeringadventism what's your real agenda? Pull up the original from 1872
@@answeringadventism 🤯
Proverbs 14:5 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.
@@deusvultelect3389 Right, you bore false witness, got called on it, now you're squirming. I didn't lie. Get over it.
How's about you come onto the platform live and we discuss it and see who has and hasn't done their homework and who is and isn't lying. Put up or sit down. We don't play these games. If you want to claim I am lying, we will demonstrate this isn't the case. As I am not a liar.
@@answeringadventism
Ellen G. White
I exalt the precious Word before you today. Do not repeat what I have said, saying, ‘Sister White said this,’ and ‘Sister White said that.’ Find out what the Lord God of Israel says, and then do what He commands.
Bro it seems like you always go against de Adventist, so please canyou preach de gospel to save save souls and direct people to Christ
Right, you ignore the substance of the video to complain about me and not Doug twisting the scriptures and misleading people.
You’ve commented three times on this platform. You couldn’t possibly know how often we preach the gospel. Have you even visited our website? www.answeringadventism.com
I proclaim the gospel CONSTANTLY on this platform. Whether it’s in video, on our website, in email with people that reach out privately, etc. You don’t even see a fraction of what we do. You’re just trying to find fault.
At least take the time to look into what your criticize first like we have regarding Adventism.
😂😂😂 seems like someone had a bad experience with the SDA's to want to create a whole channel for them and against them, what a looney...
That's right. His goal is to harm truth, not lead people to Christ.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Sister, you don't understand the sanctuary service and its implications (shadow) in the heavenly sanctuary.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv You make no sense, and I'm tired of your 'loud' accusations. You're wasting my time.
I’m not a church goer but if you used the words Seventh-Day Adventist instead of SDA THIER message is really this. The remnant are all people’s of the world and during the Great Tribulation this true church or group of people known as Jesus followers will be just that not a church of man.
SDA seems like they have a lot of good things going for them. They keep commandments and don’t condemn non-trinitarians.
They literally violate the first commandment because they proselytize a false god (an idol). They violate the third commandment by uplifting a woman that bore Gods name falsely repeatedly claiming it was from God. They violate the sixth commandment in their hospitals where they are one of the largest murder mill networks in California. They violate the ninth commandment constantly by bearing false witness against the Christian church (which is hardcoded into their system of theology).
But also, congrats! You win the award for first comment that has nothing to do with what the video addresses. 👏
Yes, SDAs are a wonderfully honest, Biblically sound Church. Glad I became one of them🙏🏻❤️
I’m glad you found a Christian church you’re happy with! I’m thinking about attending the SDA church in my town, it’s wonderful they have the alternative baptismal vow.
I was expecting you unscriptural response but, like before, you won’t respond back when I refute you biblically.
_"They keep commandments and don’t condemn non-trinitarians."_
Yeah, how can they condemn "NON TRINITARIANS" if their origin was born out of non-trinitarians?
My brother, you can talk and talk about Adventism and gossip more and more to convince and make your brothers and sisters feel good. But Adventism is unique and special who worship on the Bible Sabbath not on Sunday - man made day.