It's funny even as it derails the whole war is hell theme, which is present in many Kubrick movies. Thanks to Ermey, Kubrick actually ends up with a comedy, something he hadn't done since Dr. Strangelove
I used to watch his show on the Military History channel. Mail call I think it was called. I look back now and feel so fortunate that we couldn’t afford cable and I was able to find that show because of it.
R. Lee Ermey suddenly shouting “PRAY!” is one of my favorite parts about that. I feel like he yelled that as he scored a bayonet kill in active duty. 😂
As a former USMC officer, I can tell you that's not the full text of the Rifleman's Creed (originally written by USMC Maj. Gen William H. Rupertus). It is an abridged version Hollywood put into this scene because having the actors recite the full version was probably something the writers figured the audience would find offensive or boring or both. Otherwise, this is a very real portrayal of USMC bootcamp in the 1960s. I know because my dad served in the Corps from 1966 thru 1996 and he thought this movie nailed the bootcamp experience perfectly.
@Cardboard Cape This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than the enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. My rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, or the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit. My rifle is human, even as I am human, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy.
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned the beautiful symmetry in these shots? Kubrick’s cinematography is so pleasing to the eye, it makes you feel like something bad is coming soon and you anticipate it while watching
The symmetry doesn't come from Kubrick's eye, it comes from the Marine Corps. All Kubrick had to do was set up the camera. The Marine Corps is built on discipline, they understand symmetry.
"My rifle is my best friend." Pile refused to abandon his best friend in the bathroom. "Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless." Pile took this one literally, he refused to relinquish his rifle, because he did not want to be useless. "I must fire my rifle true" Pile sure did, managed to kill SGT Heartman with one shot. "We are the masters of my enemy." In the bathroom, Pile came to believe Heartman was his enemy, and mastered him. "We are the saviors of my life." Also true, his rifle allowed Pile to take his own life, saving him from a life in prison for committing murder. "Until there is no enemy." Pile removed the twin enemies of Heartman and himself. Amazing movie. RIP Gunnery Sergeant.
Very dark but I wonder what the common people are supposed to make of this movie's message. It's better to trust your team and go to war and kill the enemies or die trying?
@@sorenvc the movies message is very clear. The sublet messages hidden throughout are different but the main message is loud and clear. I saw this at 5 and understood it's message...
The "this is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for fighting, this is for fun" line goes back to "Battle Cry" by Leon Uris, who was a Marine himself and probably heard it used by his own DI.
@@stephenbyrne2170it means there are two meanings possible, one 'the only enemy is peace', and two, the better and real meaning 'until there is no enemy there is no peace', which means you'll fight every enemy to reach peace
We knew Lee personally. He had a Rancho near Palmdale, California. We had a landscape company that maintained his lawn and 100 rose bushes. A great to B.S. with....RIP Gunny
Watching from Navy Seal combat base Coronado CA, Rest easy to SGT Dominic Vaca who loved this movie and served as SGT in US Army infantry Bradley tanks, He took a bullet bravely protecting a pregnant woman in the line of duty as a Sheriff SGT leaving a 3 month old baby girl, a 10Yr old girl, new wife and brand new house. I now carry his firearm daily in remembrance of him and took a self oath to protect his daughters and others with my own life. I pray you all know the Lord before you enter your next battle, God bless
@@curtrod “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” Sure turn the other cheek if you can, but will you watch woman and children get murdered and not step in and lay down your own life in need be? This is the honor we speak of
The other one I've seen: "lord, Make me fast and accurate, Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who seek to destroy me, Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and my brothers and sisters, And lord... If today be the day you call me back home... Then please, Let me die with an empty magazine, in a pile of brass"
The real marines who actually had Ermey as their DI probably never thought he'd be as famous as he was. Must be pretty cool for them looking back. If anyone was actually in his platoon before he died, did you run into him years later? Did he remember you?
I would have been absolutely okay with that, the 2nd half of the move ain’t bad but the first half until Pyle dies will always hold a special place in my heart
I dont know if he ever got told how important he was to the fans of Fallout... where in Fallout 2, He played a Drill Instructor for the Enclave, The fictional post globalthermoniclear war US of A Army. As a kid i watched FMJ, And it was very special to me, As both of my parents served the Crown in the NZ Armed Forces. When i stumbled across him in my second playthrough of Fallout 2, well... it was the most ecstatic a videogame has ever made me
@@warlaker Snowball is not seen again after boot camp. Pyle took his own life after seeing the monster he became. Cowboy was shot in the back over the carelessness of others. Joker continues to fight the fight, losing bits of his sanity with every battle.
Reminds me of the Wonderful days at North Fort Polk LA... became known as the Parris Island of the US Army, and South Fort as Little Vietnsm. Welcome Home to my Brothers and Sisters who made in back to the World.
True because all gun owners have organized days when they go out and have a fucking open season in the local mall. Instructions are actually engraved on the right side of every gun detailing the proper procedure and times (older guns will use something like 'town hall' or 'library' as substitutes for 'mall').
Aram Meymarian IKR! My older 1911 says "Public gathering halls", but my new Walther PPQ says "Any place where the innocent gather". Fuck, I hate being stereotyped! I am independent, left of center politically, a teacher, don't hunt, (I have nothing against RESPONSIBLE hunting/conservation practices). I PRACTICE with my two (NOT 200!) carry sidearms. Defensive shooting is a PERISHIBLE skill and the burden is on ME to attain and maintain proficiency with these weapons. I carry for the protection of my two and four legged loved ones, any innocent whom might need protection and protection of self. My Second Amendment RIGHTS come with the price of RESPONSIBILITY. Those rights and responsibilities were paid for in blood, sweat and tears by my ancestors, upheld by the quiet, indomitable valor of my grandfathers and are maintained by my cousins and brothers who wear the uniform and go in harm's way, so that we may all sleep soundly.
Can't do it, the USMC boot camp is going "coed" and the girls might get offended, not to mention the gays and the transgenders. Our military is a woke joke!
@crampons101 Pistols have rifling too. The purpose of rifling is that it makes the projectile pass through the barrel in a spiral-motion giving it extra speed and velocity towards the target.
In basic (76) ARMY,FT Lost in the woods, if you drop your weapon,you get down with it ,and knock out 20..ya kiss your weapon,and say.."I'M SORRY WEAPON..I LOVE YOU WEAPON.🇺🇲🇺🇲👍
It was seeing this movie that made me Enlist, my Father who is an 80 year old Vietnam Veteran would not watch it with Me; Several Vietnam Veterans walked out during it. Semper Fi!
When there is something, what the US-Americans among many things can, then definitely especially shows, an army and films - sometimes recombined like during ww II and in Vietnam - for the american sense of life. Best wishes and greetings from Germany 🇺🇳🇬🇧🇺🇸🇪🇺🏳️🌈♾️ True and official counter-terrorists win! As (in)side note: Mr Lee Ermey won not the Oscar as support actor, but finally a military promotion from St. Sgt. to a Gun. St. Sgt. like he played in the film. Omen and amen.
I used to say "This is my rifle this is my gun!" when I jog around in the gym with my friends and they would reply "this is for fighting, and this is for fun!" :P
Unlike most of you? I met Gunny, got his Autograph and he was a Marine Drill Instructor, I was not a Marine, we do not name our Weapons and we do not pray with them
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The choice of Ermey and letting him run free-reign on the script was invaluable.
Nothing better to play a drill instructor than a former drill instructor
The whole movie could have been him just being him, and it would still be a gold mine.
Even more remarkable when you consider what a control freak Kubrick was.
It's funny even as it derails the whole war is hell theme, which is present in many Kubrick movies. Thanks to Ermey, Kubrick actually ends up with a comedy, something he hadn't done since Dr. Strangelove
I used to watch his show on the Military History channel. Mail call I think it was called. I look back now and feel so fortunate that we couldn’t afford cable and I was able to find that show because of it.
R. Lee Ermey suddenly shouting “PRAY!” is one of my favorite parts about that. I feel like he yelled that as he scored a bayonet kill in active duty. 😂
He's in heaven right now training gods angels...RIP gunny!!
Yes, he is now in Valhalla training the Æsirs forces against Ragnarok.
Praise to the gods 🙏
Urah!
You joke but it could happen like THAT
Armageddon is going to be a slaughterhouse and the birds are the ones dining
@@LisaAnn777I mean if you believe he’s doing that then he could be lol
this is my comment, there are many like it but this one is mine
Without me, my comment is useless.
Without my comment, I am useless.
I must post my comment true.
I must comment straighter than my enemy who is trying to post me
I must post him before he posts me. I will. Before God I swear this creed. My comment and myself are defenders of this video.
We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviours of my life. So be it.
R. Lee Ermey will always be the Gunny to me. RIP & thank you for your service. Full Metal Jacket wouldn't be anything without you. Semper Fi.
As a former USMC officer, I can tell you that's not the full text of the Rifleman's Creed (originally written by USMC Maj. Gen William H. Rupertus). It is an abridged version Hollywood put into this scene because having the actors recite the full version was probably something the writers figured the audience would find offensive or boring or both. Otherwise, this is a very real portrayal of USMC bootcamp in the 1960s. I know because my dad served in the Corps from 1966 thru 1996 and he thought this movie nailed the bootcamp experience perfectly.
@Cardboard Cape Google
Cumulatively, what was the net effect?
Went through in '75. This was close, though they don't show the Pit or Happy Valley
@@sofakingonmynuts1438 dude just fucking say it
@Cardboard Cape
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than the enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. My rifle and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, or the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit.
My rifle is human, even as I am human, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strengths, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will keep my rifle clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other.
Before God I swear this creed. My rifle and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy.
Why hasn’t anyone mentioned the beautiful symmetry in these shots? Kubrick’s cinematography is so pleasing to the eye, it makes you feel like something bad is coming soon and you anticipate it while watching
It almost feels like a fever dream
The symmetry doesn't come from Kubrick's eye, it comes from the Marine Corps. All Kubrick had to do was set up the camera. The Marine Corps is built on discipline, they understand symmetry.
RIP GUNNY
GOD HAS ALL OF THE BEST MARINES
"My rifle is my best friend." Pile refused to abandon his best friend in the bathroom.
"Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless." Pile took this one literally, he refused to relinquish his rifle, because he did not want to be useless.
"I must fire my rifle true" Pile sure did, managed to kill SGT Heartman with one shot.
"We are the masters of my enemy." In the bathroom, Pile came to believe Heartman was his enemy, and mastered him.
"We are the saviors of my life." Also true, his rifle allowed Pile to take his own life, saving him from a life in prison for committing murder.
"Until there is no enemy." Pile removed the twin enemies of Heartman and himself.
Amazing movie. RIP Gunnery Sergeant.
Very dark but I wonder what the common people are supposed to make of this movie's message. It's better to trust your team and go to war and kill the enemies or die trying?
@@sorenvc the movies message is very clear. The sublet messages hidden throughout are different but the main message is loud and clear. I saw this at 5 and understood it's message...
Dumb
@@kevingarth6682 so what's the message
@@sorenvc that war is hell
The "this is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for fighting, this is for fun" line goes back to "Battle Cry" by Leon Uris, who was a Marine himself and probably heard it used by his own DI.
They were saying"fun"? I thought they were saying "fuck". Either way it makes sense
Better novel than film.
Sad news to learn R.Lee Ermey has passed away at 74. RIP Gunny
"No enemy, but peace!"
Love the double meaning there.
“Amen!”
What do you mean?
@@stephenbyrne2170it means there are two meanings possible, one 'the only enemy is peace', and two, the better and real meaning 'until there is no enemy there is no peace', which means you'll fight every enemy to reach peace
We knew Lee personally. He had a Rancho near Palmdale, California. We had a landscape company that maintained his lawn and 100 rose bushes. A great to B.S. with....RIP Gunny
Watching from Navy Seal combat base Coronado CA, Rest easy to SGT Dominic Vaca who loved this movie and served as SGT in US Army infantry Bradley tanks, He took a bullet bravely protecting a pregnant woman in the line of duty as a Sheriff SGT leaving a 3 month old baby girl, a 10Yr old girl, new wife and brand new house. I now carry his firearm daily in remembrance of him and took a self oath to protect his daughters and others with my own life. I pray you all know the Lord before you enter your next battle, God bless
May he go to hell. Amen
turn the other cheek?
@@curtrod “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” Sure turn the other cheek if you can, but will you watch woman and children get murdered and not step in and lay down your own life in need be? This is the honor we speak of
The other one I've seen:
"lord,
Make me fast and accurate,
Let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who seek to destroy me,
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and my brothers and sisters,
And lord...
If today be the day you call me back home...
Then please,
Let me die with an empty magazine, in a pile of brass"
Is this from SPR?
Not Andres Bonifaco I thought so too.
Seraph Blitz isn't that from saving private Ryan?
Rifleman's creed
omg very very nice
It's called the riflemans creed.
theres an extended version of this film in which the creed is longer
But that wasn't the entire creed.
Hartman looks so proud hearing that prayer.
The real marines who actually had Ermey as their DI probably never thought he'd be as famous as he was. Must be pretty cool for them looking back. If anyone was actually in his platoon before he died, did you run into him years later? Did he remember you?
RIP Ermey. Soldier and actor.
*Marine We're not soldiers, we're Marines.
The whole movie could've been entirely about bootcamp and nobody would complain
If Pyle hadn’t fired at Hartman, maybe it’d be possible!
I would have been absolutely okay with that, the 2nd half of the move ain’t bad but the first half until Pyle dies will always hold a special place in my heart
He deserved an Oscar for this
Damn it's not like a movie it's like real footage.
It was meant to have the feel of a documentary. Great movie.
@@mindybunny The actors are amazingly passionate about their respective roles and the creography is very structured.
This was my boot camp.
I love this movie, watch it everytime it comes on
The Rifleman’s Creed is a real thing in the Marine corps
I dont know if he ever got told how important he was to the fans of Fallout... where in Fallout 2, He played a Drill Instructor for the Enclave, The fictional post globalthermoniclear war US of A Army. As a kid i watched FMJ, And it was very special to me, As both of my parents served the Crown in the NZ Armed Forces. When i stumbled across him in my second playthrough of Fallout 2, well... it was the most ecstatic a videogame has ever made me
"Without my rifle, I am useless!"
Tell that to Desmond Doss...
Edit: Jesus Christ, people, it was just a joke!!
*_Get sent to jail._*
Exactly
Isn't it a bit different since all marines are riflemen and Doss was in the army.
Legit Gaming *gets charges dropped by congress, saves 75 people and gets medal of honor*
killer92173 i
What an Iconic role. no one could have done it better.
Sgt. Hartman: What's this weapon's name, Private Pyle?
Pvt. Pyle: Sir, the private's weapon's name is Mary Jane Rottencrotch, Sir!
*GySgt
It never dawned on me until recently that only four privates have any lines in the bootcamp sequence.
These four will remain: Joker, Cowboy, Pyle, and Snowball
@@warlaker
Snowball is not seen again after boot camp.
Pyle took his own life after seeing the monster he became.
Cowboy was shot in the back over the carelessness of others.
Joker continues to fight the fight, losing bits of his sanity with every battle.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.
Incredible dialogue!
Good Ole days. Love it
You won't see a movie like this today.... the Good times of entertainment....
Still a famous line when I was a Marine Lt: “I am in a world of shit. But I’m alive” funny how that quote lived
This is my favorite movie, there are many like it but this one is mine. My favorite movie is my best friend.❤
RIP GUNNY
GOD HAS ALL OF THE BEST MARINES
R.I.P Legend, Greetings from India.
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We said the rifle prayer every night at rifle range, before lights out!Semper Fi
ahhh, the masculinity in this movie. I miss the macho 80s sometimes. You just couldn't have a movie like this today.
You sound gay as hell
Masculinity will return as they say weak men make hard times and hard times create strong men and strong men make good times
@@Johnlindsey289 Y'all realize that the point of this movie is to critique this sort of masculinity, right?
@@brokensilence3268
Toxic masculinarity is a myth
Greatest movie ever made ❤
THIS IS MY RIFLE, THIS IS MY GUN! THIS IS FOR FIGHTING, THIS IS FOR FUN!
R.I.P Gunny!
Love this movie especially this scene
Reminds me of the Wonderful days at North Fort Polk LA... became known as the Parris Island of the US Army, and South Fort as Little Vietnsm. Welcome Home to my Brothers and Sisters who made in back to the World.
❤
Rest in peace Sgt. Gunny.
What if my rifle cheats on me? Do I still have to be loyal?
Rene Serpas
*ARE YOU TALKING BACK, MAGGOT?! WE OUTTA THROW YOU IN THE TRENCH WITH THE RAIN AND MUD!!*
I can talk to whoever I want berry...i don’t need permission from you or your boyfriend I’m a grown ass man with a rifle who likes to cheat
Your comment to me was at least funny, your reply to him really sounds like he hurt your feelings, it's a joke, relax lad.
Stas Twinkleton yea whatever i don’t talk to bacon im leaving now have fun trying to upset me
Well, IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A JOKER HERE
With so many girls in the Corp nowadays one wonders if what they have is considered a "gun"....
Al Fin lol
It’s called an WMD. LOL
True because all gun owners have organized days when they go out and have a fucking open season in the local mall. Instructions are actually engraved on the right side of every gun detailing the proper procedure and times (older guns will use something like 'town hall' or 'library' as substitutes for 'mall').
Dildo bayonette
Aram Meymarian IKR! My older 1911 says "Public gathering halls", but my new Walther PPQ says "Any place where the innocent gather". Fuck, I hate being stereotyped! I am independent, left of center politically, a teacher, don't hunt, (I have nothing against RESPONSIBLE hunting/conservation practices). I PRACTICE with my two (NOT 200!) carry sidearms. Defensive shooting is a PERISHIBLE skill and the burden is on ME to attain and maintain proficiency with these weapons. I carry for the protection of my two and four legged loved ones, any innocent whom might need protection and protection of self. My Second Amendment RIGHTS come with the price of RESPONSIBILITY. Those rights and responsibilities were paid for in blood, sweat and tears by my ancestors, upheld by the quiet, indomitable valor of my grandfathers and are maintained by my cousins and brothers who wear the uniform and go in harm's way, so that we may all sleep soundly.
RIP Sargent Gunny
Been there done that 1967!
Sarge and The troops practicing this prayer before Andy goes to bed
Best movie ever!!!!
i can just feel my calloused feet on those wool blankets
😅
Thats how we consecrated our Axe.
“Without my Rifle, I am useless!”
Tell that to Yujiro Hanma, hahahah
Said it many many times while in bootcamp.. those were the days!
I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!!!!!
When we're all out of enemies, we have to create enemies
We need this back on our military NOW!!
Damn right.
are you in the military? because if not then just shut up kid
Can't do it, the USMC boot camp is going "coed" and the girls might get offended, not to mention the gays and the transgenders. Our military is a woke joke!
But without the whole suicide thing
What? Blanket party's
The most American prayer ever 😂
@crampons101 Pistols have rifling too. The purpose of rifling is that it makes the projectile pass through the barrel in a spiral-motion giving it extra speed and velocity towards the target.
0:18 Spider-Man Reference
She’s the only one who won’t out live me, hymelich
In basic (76) ARMY,FT Lost in the woods, if you drop your weapon,you get down with it ,and knock out 20..ya kiss your weapon,and say.."I'M SORRY WEAPON..I LOVE YOU WEAPON.🇺🇲🇺🇲👍
This looks exactly like my squad Bay in San Diego in 77. Down to the red deck
❤
After the gunnery sergeant was shot to death, his soul was in the graveyard and his rank was promoted to Master sergeant
😂❤
It is poetry!!
greatest Vietnam movie ever
R I P Gunney St Pete knows the gates of Heaven are well guarded by the Few the Proud the " Marines" Ooo Rah!!!!
I remember having the prayer and the 11 general orders memorized lol.
So much had to be memorized...quickly.
The only movie I have found to have more vulgarity than Pulp Fiction
Have you ever seen The Big Lebowski?
NoiseTheory. Ever see Blue Velvet?
Have you ever seen Casino?
The Departed, the Wolf of Wall Street, and In Bruges.
Goodfellas
It was seeing this movie that made me Enlist, my Father who is an 80 year old Vietnam Veteran would not watch it with Me; Several Vietnam Veterans walked out during it. Semper Fi!
Why
@@uuuultraPTSD perhaps
Private Pyle: (recites the same prayer in the bathroom)
Hartman: *WHAT IS THIS MICKEY MOUSE CRAP?!*
When the drill instructor (DI) wasn't around we used to say, "Birdie birdie in the sky, please do a turd on my DI".
Sew blankets longer to serve like my coat as pillow Dorothy
This movie was so good my father got disturbed
and I am 57
Thank you
Can't wait for a remake of this reimagined through the "Modern" bootcamp.
Explain
@@uuuultra Take movie....remake for "modern audience"
When there is something, what the US-Americans among many things can, then definitely especially shows, an army and films - sometimes recombined like during ww II and in Vietnam - for the american sense of life.
Best wishes and greetings from Germany
🇺🇳🇬🇧🇺🇸🇪🇺🏳️🌈♾️
True and official counter-terrorists win!
As (in)side note: Mr Lee Ermey won not the Oscar as support actor, but finally a military promotion from St. Sgt. to a Gun. St. Sgt. like he played in the film. Omen and amen.
"This is my rifle, this is for fun."
I guess gal marines can yank on their clits.
Iconic scene
Parris Island 71. I love this.
THIS SHOULD TEACH THIS IN EVERY SCHOOL RIGHT AFTER I PLEDGE ALLENENCE
Personally, I’d never take a gun to bed.
Unless with safety
5th graders gamble for food, too. At least tell that to the town kids, I got bussed.
2:10 which rifle are they talking about 😂
Welcome to the USMC!!!!
Hartman's thoughts at 1:44
"...these pukes make me proud."
Outstanding
Betsy comes to mind..
they ROD & STAFF.
I wil be faithful to my “rifle”, she wouldn’t leave me 💪💯
I used to say "This is my rifle this is my gun!" when I jog around in the gym with my friends and they would reply "this is for fighting, and this is for fun!"
:P
Awesome 🇺🇸 To bad we lost that fight so many lost
A few iconic songs used clips from this little scene 😂😊
Mary-Jane Rottencrotch! 😂😂
Classic
Without me, my TEC9 is useless. Without my TEC9, I am useless.
boy i love the armed forces prayers your way right on!!!!!!!!!!
Ryan Penland Right On BRO/amen
This is the only marine Corona I told you again this is the only Marine Corps united states Marine Corps that we believe in
Unlike most of you? I met Gunny, got his Autograph and he was a Marine Drill Instructor, I was not a Marine, we do not name our Weapons and we do not pray with them
minister of death praying for war😂
How is that funny?