This firewood BUCKING/CUTTING rack has hidden design features.
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2024
- From concept to model to working prototype and final product.
This rack has met all my expectations.
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Very cool idea. Cant wait to actually spend a whole day cutting over there with this thing
Plan on it! 😁
If you are open to suggestions,
You might want to consider making the bottom of the out ramp 18 " off the ground, instead of ground level.
And put a stop or catch basin there.
If you lift a cord of rounds per day off of the ground or off of an 18" table,
Your back arms and shoulders are going to notice a huge difference.
Even if you are using tongs.
Nice vid tiday, good initial concept .
Sawing at hip or belly height will most likely be easier on a guys back.
But even if the cut rounds are only 16 lbs. ,
A cord of them adds up to a lot ,eventually
Along with that as soon as the log drops I see it stand on end. Try a longer drop to the out feed table might encourage rolling out naturally. But kick ass!
Son of a Dougified Bucker! I've always been amazed at your mastery of the scale model in testing a concept. I love seeing your creativity and your willingness to share it with others.
Thank you very much!
Doug is not a Jack of all trades, he is the Master of all trades! 🙂
It broke.
Finally catching up on videos Doug. I like your design. It appears to work great!
Thank you!!
Doug, what a great idea. Even if you can't find a company to make them out of metal you can still sell plans for this thing to make them either out of wood or out of metal for people that know how to weld. Anyway, stay safe, healthy and warm. Bill H from Cranberry Township
Thanks Bill!!
That's a great idea Bill, a few great you tubers such as Pask Makes , sells online plans for their projects.
Doug - most ingenious, as always. No one on YT remotely approaches your foresight. The only drawback I see is that you still need to pick up the rounds after bucking. I only bring it up in the interest of saving your back when you’re faced with much bigger rounds. Have you seen “Sawing with Sandy” with his particular setup?
Perhaps a modification of some kind (such as raising the height of the platform to match the level of the splitter)?
Just a thought.
I like the friend of Back 40 who has a bucking table that keeps the rounds up off the ground so there isn’t any bending over to pick them off the ground.
Very nice concept!
👍Great concept and prototype model. Luv ur videos.
Thanks! 👍
If you plan on making this make sure you build it to a cutting height that is comfortable for you. Great idea
Cup holder Doug.....Where's the cup holder? Great concept, great build, great demo. 👍
It does have a saw holder.
Buck. Drop. And Roll. Very cool seeing the life size version of it...would definitely need some beefing up for the bigger logs. Nice job, looking forward to seeing where things go with this. Can you build another small one for my mini wood? 😆🤣🍻
I’m on it!!!
Great concept, thank you for sharing!
My pleasure!
Wonderful concept to make it easier, especially when your back is a bit sore, and safety too.😊
Awesome concept Doug, something I need so I’m not always bent over with a 20lb saw in my hand. Cheers outstanding idea.
Great Idea! What about a log stop on the top that would be activated by a foot pedal. That way the you could cut one log at a time and the pressure of the logs touching the one your cutting wouldn’t keep the rounds from falling through plus give your saw ample room to work. It would also be a safety issue to keep the tip of the saw from hitting a higher log and kicking back at you. You wouldn’t need much room, maybe 2 to 3 inches. Also I am sure you already thought of this for the final version, but making the feet of the bucking station adjustable. So not only it could be leveled on uneven ground but you could raise it up for people 6’5” like Adam. Everyone teases him about his height. I thought I’d join the fun. lol. I will watch for this to go into production.
Good concept, Doug. You might want to include a couple of mounting brackets for a pickaroon or similar type tool.
Great idea. I like the wood prototype ,makes modifications easier.
Just an idea from a 66 year old baby boomer with a bad back, make the whole table about 28” higher and have Adam cut you a 12 x 12 cant to act as a stop out from the bottom. Then built a walkway along the cutting side to get back up to comfortable height. Your tractor can easily put the logs up higher and you won’t have to lean over to pick up the finished rounds. 27:08
Pretty good proof of concept. I bet if the angle was a bit more and made of sheet metal the logs would slide right down it!
Nice idea. I would try and have the end of the table at the same height as the splitter so you do not have to pick the wood up from the ground
Since 16" is the optimal length, see what works best for the top ramp board interval is. It's screwed together. Move the boards around. 34" or 40" might be the ticket. Glad you built a working prototype.
I would like the bucking table about a foot lower, for bigger logs. Maybe have more uprights, as a fence between you & the rounds.
I believe many will build this now. Great concept.
Here is some very useful advice. I bought two Fiskars Pickaroons to pick up my wood round so I didn't have to bend over. I will never split wood with out them now. They are fantastic back savers😊 Get 2 if you buy one you will be getting another anyway they work that good. At least here in Montana 😁
Hey Doug, I think you have a really good concept here, as you said you will have to come up with something for the logs rolling away, maybe you could use some square stock and crusher screen . It will be much stronger when made from steel and it won't break while dropping logs on it. Can't wait to see where this goes, hopefully one of the manufactures will work with you on the final product.
Nice build anytime you improve comfort and lessen the amount you have to handle firewood your winning
Very nice concept Doug. I commented on whatever FB page it was this morning (Aussie time) when you asked about whether it's okay to post on there. I saw that you'd shared this and now I've knocked off worked I'm soaking up my YT videos.
A couple of suggestions. I would think that instead of being a rectangle (looking from top down) you could actually taper the back in so that it funnels the blocks into a smaller area. I would also be very surprised if 1 or 2 vertical posts would get in the road if they were used to support the back of the rack. I'd also consider putting in a bar/barrier across the bottom of the ramp so that the initial blocks didn't roll off everywhere. It might actually be beneficial to work with the barrier in place when splitting as all of the blocks would be at a fixed distance and wouldn't be under your feet.
Hello Doug!Pretty simple but clever design! Somebody had to think about it first!Awesome!
It’s all about the back baby!!!
I'm thinking on the bottom, "Leave it like it is." It's like grizzly bars, so junk and trash fall through. A solid surface would create more work, having to clean it all the time. Another thought is to build it in 4' segments too pin or bolt together, would make it easier to transport if needed.
I absolutely love this. This is exactly the type of stuff I would build to make things easier. I will likely be buying a tractor next year...finally. I like splitting and stacking wood but i hate bucking it. This would make me love bucking it to length.
The back support would need to be a 2x10 I think, maybe doubled up. You could also do a metal frame with mostly wood since metal is expensive. You could have multiple different iterations. I would totally buy a set of plans if you published them.
Winner, Winner, chicken dinner!
Awesome!! I'm making one!! Thanks for the idea!!
yep, I'm making one too
Great idea, I’ve got a small dump truck, and an outdoor wood boiler, would be cool to have them roll right into a truck using a hill and a retaining wall somehow…since I don’t have to split my round small
Very nice concept, planning/design, and execution. If you're open to suggestions, I'd raise the bottom off the ground and add a lip to keep from having to bend over to pick up the rounds. My rounds are hardwood and mostly over 18" in diameter, and mine are 24" long for my wood stove and very heavy.
This looks close to sawing with Sandy’s . Yours is more complicated. But general function is the same Cool
Conveyor rollers and pivoting chainsaw, look that concept.
I like the concept of the table, best I have seen. one correction I might make is having the roll off area at less of an angle with a lip on the end to catch the logs. This way you wouldn’t have to bend over to put the logs on the splitter.
Like the idea - if made of steel and with some modifications (chains, vibrating motor) it could also be used as topsoil sifter in summer :)
Your idea works well.
Another idea. On your log splitter the tray seems lower on the out feed right side and leaves a mess.
Now can you design a receptacle to collect the the refuse to keep it from going all over.
- I think you’ll find I guessed a sloped decked of sorts for cutting logs. After watching so many log cutting videos I’ve always thought there was a more efficient means of cutting and positioning cutoffs.
- Your engineering / tool and die back ground and thought process spot on
Thank you!!!
Good design. Should space the area when cutting so that the round drops straight down, and they can be easily sized to fit the user. Perhaps some adjustment pins for the one built from steel. Keep at it!
My husband and I felt it was a great idea. Guess you need to beef up some of the boards but hey, it works well.
You Dougified it right on up there, good work! Hybrid design with some angle iron lagged to the wood along the long stretches, possibly?
Interesting idea. 40 years ago I built a quick single log bucking stand out of wood and used it for decades. It eventually fell apart but worked great. Your version is a great improvement and is giving me cause to finally build a replacement. One advantage of my wooden version was that there wasn’t anything that would blunt a chain if you accidentally nicked it. I would look at trying to use (sacrificial) wood in areas within range of the cutting chain.
Thanks, but in the video I explain about the sacrificial boards I used. You may have to watch it again, I think you missed that part.
GREAT CONCEPT!! When you go into production consider a 5-foot-long rack for the "average" weekend warrior with a subcompact tractor. The 12-foot-long would be great for serious firewooders. If you can get some "grade" OAK (not select grade) it would be MUCH stronger for wood construction. PLEASE keep making this type of videos
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Sweet idea, I’m on the short side of tall so I would make a little bench along the side you cut from so you don’t have to hold the saw so high.
Excellent work! For working with . manufacturers you might consider starting with logs 1/2 current length. Automatically reduce material cost by 50% without a big hit to productivity.
Sawing waist high is not only great for the back it also keeps my chain sharp longer. Great job.
A 4x run of galvanized steel across right under where the round falls should give them some slide momentum to exit better. Great concept. Blessings brother
I think it was a pretty smart idea. Like it alot. It will be quicker for cutting and save the back for sure. Awesome.
Doug awesome bucking station great idea put in front of Chris at Wolfe Ridge to team up on this product
That would be cool
I did like your design though, looks like plans you could sell. The right kind of practicality for sure.
Neighbor Doug, as a retired science teacher, I’ve just witnessed a perfect lab experiment. You came up with a concept (a hypothesis) and you tested to see if it worked. Your hypothesis failed but your experiment is valid. A failed hypothesis as Edison said is a success because it tells you what doesn’t work, as he had 10,000 failed hypothesis before coming up with a lightbulb that worked. So you’ll go back you will build up the weak areas of your structure you’ll test it again you might make more changes each one of those hypothesis will be proven or disproven and once you find what works satisfactorily. You will have a successful completed lab experiment. As usual, terrific video. Terrific concept for those that need it. Looking forward to the improvements.
You are exactly correct!!!
Edison made 10,000 different before making a workin light bulb seems so impossible
@@Spaltyslife Additionally, I visited the Thomas Edison library in 1993. It is a national park historical site, and the docent explained to us and showed us the filing cabinets in the library with the 10,000 different lab reports done prior to a successful lightbulb being produced.
Really enjoyed the proof of concept process. Would love to see it in steel. Would be neat if it could be broken down into steel sections that could fit into the back of a pickup. Maybe have the pieces pinned together for easy disassembly. Thank you.
Great idea, Doug!
Thank you!!
Alright.
I'm buulding one of these.
Thanks doug!
Right on!! Use 2x8 and 2x10 for the main supports.
It needs to be redesigned to keep the rounds up high. Also the drop when cut is not enough for the rounds to get clear of the top rack. The basic concept is good but needs development.
An elevated walkway would be needed to give the whole thing an elevation. The walkway could be tipped up for loading logs. The walkway could have a counterweight to make it move easily. The only part of the walkway that would need to be movable is the center part.
Seems like the splitter was backwards. I am not sure.
There is a need in the industry for these type of splitter accessories. Because everyone makes their own, there are none to purchase.
That's Great !
Great concept...minor tweaks and it will be perfect.
Very good idea! If the roll out surface was diamond plate or just straight sheet metal, rounds probably wouldn’t get stuck vertically like they were on the slats.
However, trash build-up on a solid surface might not work as well. His design is like grizzly bars. Junk can fall through and not have to stop and clean all the time.
Cattle fence panels.
From design to execution - nice work Doug! Looks like a nice height to work at, keeps the chainsaw out of the dirt, and directs the rounds away from your feet and to the next stage of the firewood operation. 👍
Thanks Bob, appreciate that!!!
Nice job my suggestion for a tweak would be fix a 2x6 along the bottom edge of the round ramp, this would stop the rounds at a better height to load on the splitter ( less bending ) the angle of the round ramp could be altered by fitting a pair of leg extentions to the bottom of the round ramp. this should eliminate bending to the ground to load the splitter... good luck !
I know the feeling of tripping over rounds while I'm bucking logs, very dangerous.
Couple of ideas for those that might build this out of wood.
1. If using 2x4, put a center support on the round discharge side, use a 4x6 or put a piece of sheet metal the length of the 2x4 to give it support.
2. Where the logs sit on, maybe make those at about 18 inches or maybe 32 inches apart, this gives the ability to gauge the round size if looking to get that 16 inch round, but that might be too close, maybe 36 inches to have a place to saw.
3. Also where the logs sit, make those 4x4's or 4x6's and they should be able to handle the abuse.
Great idea, I think I'll mill and build one of my own as my back hurts too when cutting.
I think that table could be reduced to 8 ft wide, to keep it manageable for the smaller 24 hp tractors with limited lifting capacity. I also think That making that table in metal might make it expensive, but like you said there may be solutions for that. I do like the idea.
It's a very cool invention. I hope it works out.
Doug ,when you have time ,look up "sawing with Sandy" . He's a Canadian lad who built a table a bit differently than yours and it saves his back as well .Maybe a combination of the two would work ?
Great Job. Clickety Click. Mind always in motion. Love the channel since its inception.
Yes! Thank you!
I don't have a woodyard but this is one of those concepts that you won't ever want to go back to before you had one of these.👍🏼
Nice work Doug. It does certainly help the back! A head board on the side to align the logs to the cutting widths may also help. Acts as a stop when loading. Nice work.
Hey boss, Really like the concept! I can help you with the design and prototyping in steel get you to a metal prototype and proper drawings to send out for mass production. Its hard to have one shop design and fabricate. But with a proper cad file and drawings you can send them out to anyone and get the best pricing/lead time for you. Our main focus is a design and helping folks like yourself get to production, however we keep enough tools todo prototyping in house so we can bring the customer faster turn arounds.
What is the label for the type work you do?
Functional idea that can be tweaked to an individual’s needs. I like it
Works pretty good.
Good morning Doug!
It's always great when your proof of concept works as it should. Very nice design.
For shipping this, you would want to have it bolt together.
Definitely saves the back and the chain.
We be like 'in it Doug.....a good back saver for sure!!
I like how you are always thinking.. just retired last year and have to program my brain to switch gears lol.great video
Enjoy you new “free” time! Thanks!
Looks good!
Doug, great idea. I have seen something very similar on a hay wagon with a catch bason, so the rounds are at waist height ready for any splitter.
Fantastic idea for a super efficient workflow. One thing I noticed was that Adam still had to pick up the logs from the ground to the height of the splitter. You could dig a hole for the log splitter or elevate the table so that the out feed ramp is at the same height as the splitter. There'd be no lifting at any point of the process
Then you’d end up going up and down from the hole, rather how about they roll down and then onto an elevated tray. Maybe a smooth tray so it’s super easy to pickaroon onto the log lift that is snugged up close to the tray.
Eli Goldratt, I mean Doug! Love this 'thoughput' concept. I appreciate you sharing how this is a test subject and proto type. I am saving this vid for future reference. Thank you O' Great One! Keith
2"×4"'s are just "LINCOLN LOGS" for adults!
Sweet "BUCK RACK" Boss
You’re a genius Doug! Works great👍 Love the scale model 👍👍
It’s great! Good concept. I have seen a couple flat tables for cutting and then you roll or pickaroon the cut logs over to the splitter. Keeps the wood at the same height as the splitter. Your way adds some automatic movement but then you have to pick up the logs. Either saves a lot of time.
For those without a log lift on their splitter, perhaps have that tray raise and lower with a boat trailer winch. Instead of screwing in at the other side, use through bolts to allow it to pivot at the cutting end of the table.
Bucking tables seem to be the thing these days. I've done 3 vids on the subject recently. Very nice build. You 3D modeled that thing with real wood, I would have turned to SketchUp! Couple of thoughts. I think you could lessen the slope of the top deck. As you probably found with a deck full of logs, the log you want to cut, you will be unable to manipulate it's location - thinking if you want to adjust the log location a bit to line up with your marks, or make the most effective cuts, there might be a need to move the log left or right. On my flat top table, I actually can load almost a half a cord of wood on it and cut and split the whole lot from that one load. Every log unless huge, I'm able to slide left and right to adjust where it starts, either with my hand or pickaroon.
My only thought with this overall design concept is that the rounds still end up on the ground, requiring someone to bend over and pick them up. It's nice though, that you are eliminating touches. Have a great day!
Great concept Doug! You're a smart fella!
Solid idea! Thanks
You bet!
My back approves!
Great concept! My 2c, the main beams obviously like you mentioned, heavier, but the lower roll out, sheet metal, teflon/uhmw anti friction sheets, or what about bearing rollers in segments. Obviously material cost and maintenance to be considered, ultimately the end result, you were standing at a comfortable place, and the wood ended up in a reasonable pile at the next platform, which could be on its own catch platform that could be raised hydraulically if someone really wanted to take it to the next step. Thanks for sharing all the great ideas.
Many of these guys are discarding large amounts of sheet plastic from IBC totes.
Making a hard chore easy and far safer! Good stuff! Love it!
It’s a great concept!
Thought it worked awesome!
Just makes it easier, safer, and faster especially if you’re doing it solo!
Absolutely crushed it!
Glad you like it!
Early on in the video I was thinking, when it’s made out of steel to put a skid steer plate on it for moving it. Then you said about the forks. Which makes sense you already have them on the machine, maybe. A guy could be loading it with a grapple. So maybe a plate and box tube fork pocket combo.
Great Job Doug! Maybe adding some of those polypropylene sheets (from your perfect yard trailer video) to the top of the log slide would keep the logs moving/sliding easier at the top of the slide. just a thought! Cheers, --J.Andre. / Old Iron Acres
Prevent rot.
Doug, or should I now call you 'Smarty Arty'. Great idea ya have, and it works! A few modifications and you'll be 'rockless and rollin' !
Good stuff.
Hi Doug- Very nice design 👍. I look forward to watching the progress of this bucking table.
Since you went through all the hard work to set this up, a simple fix would be to reduce the log loading section to about 3 logs maximum to prevent the upper 2x4s from breaking. This also would give you ergonomic breaks in your work. Load 3 logs, buck 3 logs, repeat. This way you get to spread the work load of different muscles over shorter bursts of usage, then a relaxation period. It will help you a lot.
Great point!
Good concept. I'd buy/make one.
Looks good 👍
Thanks 👍
I like your concept, have you thought about researching Lean Concepts and Theories of Constraints. I'm a certified Black Belt in Lean Six Sigma with my employer and some of the ideas you mentioned are industry standard today. I like how you brought these methods to the wood yard. Continue to refine your design and the concept on how you would incorporate this link into the entire chain process as you've got something pretty special here. Take care and great job.
I am also certified in Sux Sigma and lean. It was a major part of my career and business!
Excellent concept Doug , works great and saves the back. Well done on another excellent idea.
Thanks 👍
Hey bud how are you doing I'm good I'm Rob from Pennsylvania and I like the video I love what you build that great idea
I’ve built bucking wagon out of an old hay wagon running gear. I love your idea but I don’t have a log lift on my antique home built splitter, & my back won’t let me pick anything up from ground level more than a cpl dozen times. I used 2x6 & 4x6 lumber spaced at 8” (to keep rounds at waist height after cutting) the table is pitched roughly 10 degrees toward the splitter so I don’t crowd the cutting area with logs rolling towards me, but they are plenty easy to roll by hand!
I’ll build em for ya if needed