@@jamespaul2587 I was curious too, so I did some digging. Can’t find first generation minivan, but second generation is 3300 lbs. Countryman is 3777 lbs.
Great Reviews as always guys, As an owner of the 2023 mini countryman All 4 S, The new interior I think is a step down,playing either that center stack while driving is a distraction for sure plus the lack of knobs and that lack of gear shifter is a cheap upgrade on the interior. Plus after a few years how to you clean that fabric interior after it gets dirty ! Hard plastics on the dash with the out of touch pricing might make this a hard sell for past mini buyers. All the best to you both& jack, let’s keep the subscribers coming! Evan, From NY
As a recent owner, it’s form over function in the interior. Maybe it will improve in refreshes. I disagree with Zack, I like the shape of it. Beauty. Beholder. It looks odd to North American eyes.
Traded my 2017 Countryman S for the 2025. Drives a lot different with the size increase but still better than most compact SUV and loving the extra power with the 7 speed DCT. Certain color combinations look better than others, black roof helps. I'm surprised no mention of the massage seats, that is what sold me. I really enjoyed watching.
For the price they are asking, they should have resolved the wind noise problem from the prior generations. Not a fan of the slab side look for this. It's more Range Rover, especially from the hatch view. MINI is supposed to not take itself seriously. This one does.
We were looking for a car. We randomly stopped at MINI. We didn’t think much of it..THENNNN WE DROVE IT!!!! OMG IT WAS AMAZING!… The price? Not so amazing with an 8.49%APR. 😬 Terrible storage. But it’s a MINI. ❤
For some reason, I am not comfortable to drive it because of the size but it’s perfect on city driving that was it. Interior is not bad. I feel maybe the electric would help. Great show Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
Totally agree with you guys regarding the look. Mini has totally lost their idendity with the new design language. The old countryman and clubman were such a pretty cars, but this one is just ugly!
Oh Zack I had a blue interior with a matching roof on my silver Porsche Boxster beauty! And I just remembered 80 something white Mustang had a blue interior. 😁
While it doesn’t embody the original Mini ethos, it is relatively agile and quick and can function as a family vehicle. We have the related X1 which we find to be fun and functional.
You two are always so good at coordinating with car / cloths for the cast. Was just thinkin there might a "mini " ...this time ! Sumpthin in Scottish plaid ? but....no not you ..Zack P S ...guess that would make the cabin shot a lil'tricky...
It's like Mini design team were seating in a meeting and discussing: "Ok, guys. Too many people find our current Countryman and Clubman models very beautiful, and even those who aren't Mini entusiasts react positively when they see our cars in the streets. So the challenge now is HOW we can make our cars uglier so that even Mini entusiasts run away from our brand?!?" I mean seriously, most of the car design in decades become better and better. But Mini and BMW go the opposite direction. Their design chiefs must be fired if they haven't yet! Because it has gone too long when even the Mini and BMW entusiasts hate the new design language, and that should be the most important parameter (or WARNING) for a company to learn from! And NO, you can not get used to a ugly car. I have never understood this sense. You cannot force yourself to like something new, just because you use to like the previous ones!
Great review. I have very mixed feelings about the look of the dash. Usually, I think a Mini dash is childish looking, not whimsical. Besides the cheap looking heads-up and the gimmicky round lcd, it’s an improvement here as far as “form”/looks. BUT, no hard buttons/toggles. The “function” quotient is a big fail.
I just traded in my Countryman S All4 after 4.5 months. The seats are initially comfortable but after an hour is nor so much because you feel every wrinkle in the road. On shorter trips not much of an issue. After 6000 miles of driving, the ride became more harsh so, after several hours driving, it got very tiring. I don’t know how long you drove it. The all important software in the “big eye” is still very glitchy and, in my case, subject to shutting down while driving at the most inappropriate times. MINImUSAvwere not very helpful. I wanted to love this car, but maybe in a year or two it will be better, but also even more expensive!
People love to cry and or love to complain. Personally I like the fresh gen and this gen. The second gen just looked awful but anyways it's opinions right
I've actually seen a couple versions of the JCW that I actually like the exterior styling, not sure if you could spec a S model somewhat similar. Was also hoping for a PHEV version.....maybe that's coming?
@@lolotus4borderless Yeah I like the red roof with red door mirror caps but I can't seem to get that spec (in Canada at least). Only way is if I have red on red, which I don't want.
I agree the exterior is bland. The interior is a triumph of style over function. At nearly 3800 lbs, this Mini has just gotten too big. At this price and size, there are better alternatives.
It’s not boring at all. That’s the point. The competitor cars they showed are all boring design wise, with the possible exception of the Volvo. This gen Countryman is just a bigger and more practically sized version of the previous gen. It does have some downsides though, as a recent owner. Sad 😞
A couple things...the HUD is worthless.....I have the same HUD in my Mazda CX 3....totally worthless. Mini should have put in a doggy window on the rear hatch. Finally, Mini made a horrible mistake killing the Clubman.....huge mistake!
My friend just bought the 2024 x2, she loves it. I’m curious what you think of the x2’s CR average reliability, same as the 25 countryman, do you know of it being problematic? Is it because of the IBS recall !?!
Own one JCW trim. I would have never purchased it on a test drive, it takes 150 miles to comprehend the vehicle. NOT FOR NEw DRIVERS. What it is - fast and nimble - quirky but funny - infotainment takes a learning curb but well designed overall - rather practical, well packaged - be ready to experience 1st generation teething - if it comes with summer tires invest in a winter set or pass winter in a garage. What it is not - plush and comfy - boring 😊 - cheap😢 - logical and comparable to other vehicle, just start from ground zero with an open mind or buy a reasonable car, they have plenty out there. - comparable to former Minis, looks like those are now looking for a completely different clientele. Hope this helps
That is NOT a Mini anymore! I hate their new interior design language. Especially the Mini itself. Interior looks cheap! Chrome and leather traded for cloth and plastic! Especially the cloth dashes and seats. Miss the rich leather seats with the thick oval headrest that were super comfortable. And dont get me started on the rolling arcade of a cartoon disk in the middle now! 🤮
Nothing cheap about the head a display. The reason it has a small screen is due to the upright windscreen, it makes it impossible for BMW to put a conventional head up display in. I’m sure once you know the reason for it you will get over your hang up about it. I’ve been using it my wife’s car for about 5 years, mine has a conventional one and I have no problem with the Mini’s set up. It’s actually a very clever solution…
This review disappoints me. I know you don’t like giving negative reviews and at the start I thought you were going there on this - ugly, strange interior and controls, bad infotainment, jerky transmission, noisy, too big for a Mini. Yet around halfway through you do a 180 on it and seem to love things that are problematic and praise them as features. I do not like this vehicle at all because it’s weird for the sake of being weird. But in the questions you pick it over the XT4. Really? They are totally different classes of vehicles that don’t seem to compete. I don’t get it. I’m very confused by this review.
The exterior size of this mini got me thinking…. Mini dimensions L175” W72” H65”, 1984 Chrysler Minivan L176” W70” H64”. Thanks for the review team! 👍
Lol, sounds more like a Maxi 😊 I wonder how the weights compare?
🤣Good catch. That's really funny.
@@jamespaul2587 I was curious too, so I did some digging. Can’t find first generation minivan, but second generation is 3300 lbs. Countryman is 3777 lbs.
@gregholloway2656 thanks, that's quite scary, and I guess it reflects how much "more robust" people are now 😊
You guys put a lot of effort in these videos. Highly appreciated!
Great Reviews as always guys, As an owner of the 2023 mini countryman All 4 S, The new interior I think is a step down,playing either that center stack while driving is a distraction for sure plus the lack of knobs and that lack of gear shifter is a cheap upgrade on the interior. Plus after a few years how to you clean that fabric interior after it gets dirty ! Hard plastics on the dash with the out of touch pricing might make this a hard sell for past mini buyers. All the best to you both& jack, let’s keep the subscribers coming! Evan, From NY
As a recent owner, it’s form over function in the interior. Maybe it will improve in refreshes. I disagree with Zack, I like the shape of it. Beauty. Beholder. It looks odd to North American eyes.
I really like the way this looks
The size is a winner. An adventure trim would work well with the countryman.
Traded my 2017 Countryman S for the 2025. Drives a lot different with the size increase but still better than most compact SUV and loving the extra power with the 7 speed DCT. Certain color combinations look better than others, black roof helps. I'm surprised no mention of the massage seats, that is what sold me. I really enjoyed watching.
For the price they are asking, they should have resolved the wind noise problem from the prior generations. Not a fan of the slab side look for this. It's more Range Rover, especially from the hatch view. MINI is supposed to not take itself seriously. This one does.
I have a 2024 Countryman, and don't have any wind noise problems.
Man I just saw an original Mini drive by me in downtown Toronto. I think this thing is 2 minis maybe more. LOL. IT’S HUGE.
The teenage description is perfect. It's like it wants to be a 'real' SUV but it just looks like a hatchback that lifted weights and took steroids😅
We were looking for a car. We randomly stopped at MINI. We didn’t think much of it..THENNNN WE DROVE IT!!!! OMG IT WAS AMAZING!… The price? Not so amazing with an 8.49%APR. 😬 Terrible storage. But it’s a MINI. ❤
For some reason, I am not comfortable to drive it because of the size but it’s perfect on city driving that was it. Interior is not bad. I feel maybe the electric would help. Great show Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
Totally agree with you guys regarding the look. Mini has totally lost their idendity with the new design language. The old countryman and clubman were such a pretty cars, but this one is just ugly!
FUGLY more like it!
It's no longer a Mini, it's just a straight up BMW
@@calebwany8422 So true! 😢
It sure is UgLy 😂. I had a 2016 Countryman for 8 yrs. That was a FuN MINI! Drove it all over the USA.
Been looking forward to this video, if to see why it's so big and what it's got going for it too? 🎉
Mini ? Maybe they should call it the Maxi
@@copaloadofthis Pad? 🤣
😂😂😂
Previous Gen look much more Mini. This looks like an 80’s computer game 16 bit design.
Oh Zack I had a blue interior with a matching roof on my silver Porsche Boxster beauty! And I just remembered 80 something white Mustang had a blue interior. 😁
While it doesn’t embody the original Mini ethos, it is relatively agile and quick and can function as a family vehicle. We have the related X1 which we find to be fun and functional.
You two are always so good at coordinating with car / cloths for the cast. Was just thinkin there might a "mini " ...this time ! Sumpthin in Scottish plaid ? but....no not you ..Zack
P S ...guess that would make the cabin shot a lil'tricky...
Good info here. Friend is contemplating this or Q3
I saw one not that long ago. I really liked the look. Would never buy the smaller Minis. Would consider this one though.
B48 engine for the win. Have it in our 21 BMW 330i Xdrive M-sport. Underrated power because it's BMW.
it still sounds like a rattly 4 cylinder. no getting around that. decent mileage though. just too much to pay for this.
Engine sound is synthetic.
Thanks for sharing. It doesn't look like MINI to me anymore... Btw, the new XC90 is coming and it does look so pretty will you review it?
We will review it for sure!
The screen should use the Eye of Sauron for a screen saver
The JCW is the best. More horse power and torque. Black with a red roof.
2022's sell for about $33K on Autotrader, Considering this about $50-55K plus tax, i don't like the resale value proposition on this vehicle.
I think you guys are great when you do the 123 model choice call out. I got a lot out of this video but still wondering how young are you guys?
It’s fugly. I drive a 2010 Mini. No bells or whistles. It’s great. One thing about BMW, they sure know how to mess up a brand.
The Center circle thingy….naw…just ruin the inside of the car. The designers missed it on that one.
It's like Mini design team were seating in a meeting and discussing: "Ok, guys. Too many people find our current Countryman and Clubman models very beautiful, and even those who aren't Mini entusiasts react positively when they see our cars in the streets. So the challenge now is HOW we can make our cars uglier so that even Mini entusiasts run away from our brand?!?"
I mean seriously, most of the car design in decades become better and better. But Mini and BMW go the opposite direction. Their design chiefs must be fired if they haven't yet! Because it has gone too long when even the Mini and BMW entusiasts hate the new design language, and that should be the most important parameter (or WARNING) for a company to learn from!
And NO, you can not get used to a ugly car. I have never understood this sense. You cannot force yourself to like something new, just because you use to like the previous ones!
Why do car manufacturers get rid of a traditional shifter?
I just can't get past the looks of this thing. I guess if you like the unique look of the AMC Pacer, you'll like this?
Great review. I have very mixed feelings about the look of the dash. Usually, I think a Mini dash is childish looking, not whimsical. Besides the cheap looking heads-up and the gimmicky round lcd, it’s an improvement here as far as “form”/looks. BUT, no hard buttons/toggles. The “function” quotient is a big fail.
None of these cars should have screens replacing buttons and knobs that can be operated without looking at them.
I just traded in my Countryman S All4 after 4.5 months. The seats are initially comfortable but after an hour is nor so much because you feel every wrinkle in the road. On shorter trips not much of an issue. After 6000 miles of driving, the ride became more harsh so, after several hours driving, it got very tiring. I don’t know how long you drove it. The all important software in the “big eye” is still very glitchy and, in my case, subject to shutting down while driving at the most inappropriate times. MINImUSAvwere not very helpful.
I wanted to love this car, but maybe in a year or two it will be better, but also even more expensive!
I was bewitched by the design and, for sure, it’s fun to drive, but there is a lot of form over function.
I ordered the same car in the same colors. The motormouth's will get used to the design.
Love me a dual clutch transmission. When done right, they simply can’t be beat in my book.
Gets awful crowded under the dash with two clutch petals
@@billurban1581 🤣
They lost me with the turbo engine and dual clutch transmission.
Why? It's an excellent engine and transmission. Ultra smooth with perfect shifts
It sounds nice!
The engine sound is thru the speakers. BMW did a good job with it though.
@@angusmacdonald5300 A lot of cars have piped in sound. It is nicer than most though.
Andrea, Green and Blue shirt IS Teal color ❤😊 Better Have the Cadillac CT4😊, instead 😉 🇺🇸🇨🇦.
People love to cry and or love to complain. Personally I like the fresh gen and this gen. The second gen just looked awful but anyways it's opinions right
I've actually seen a couple versions of the JCW that I actually like the exterior styling, not sure if you could spec a S model somewhat similar. Was also hoping for a PHEV version.....maybe that's coming?
Yes you can spec it 98% similar without the engine and badge however
@@lolotus4borderless Yeah I like the red roof with red door mirror caps but I can't seem to get that spec (in Canada at least). Only way is if I have red on red, which I don't want.
I agree the exterior is bland. The interior is a triumph of style over function. At nearly 3800 lbs, this Mini has just gotten too big. At this price and size, there are better alternatives.
The Mini was a cool little fun car. This is an angry appliance. Boring. What is the point.
It’s not boring at all. That’s the point. The competitor cars they showed are all boring design wise, with the possible exception of the Volvo. This gen Countryman is just a bigger and more practically sized version of the previous gen. It does have some downsides though, as a recent owner. Sad 😞
Should I trade in my 2018 Clubman for this ??? !!!
The exterior is fine. The interior is a deal breaker. Someone was trying way too hard. No thanks.
Is it really a 5 adult seater ?
More like a 2 1/2
Hate the cloth all over the interior.
A couple things...the HUD is worthless.....I have the same HUD in my Mazda CX 3....totally worthless. Mini should have put in a doggy window on the rear hatch. Finally, Mini made a horrible mistake killing the Clubman.....huge mistake!
"Park by feel" 🤣
I should say i dont understand that for a 2025 we still have these …… yesterday’s hud technology
there is a lot they cheaped out on in this version. Pity. They seemed to be heading in a better direction with the last gen.
unfortunately only the name is now Mini 😂
👍👍👍👍👍
My friend just bought the 2024 x2, she loves it. I’m curious what you think of the x2’s CR average reliability, same as the 25 countryman, do you know of it being problematic? Is it because of the IBS recall !?!
Hummm, looks like a BMW motor...just saw a X2 review and everything is the same except the badging.
Same platform
I don't like the round screen
No Buy
Own one JCW trim.
I would have never purchased it on a test drive, it takes 150 miles to comprehend the vehicle. NOT FOR NEw DRIVERS.
What it is
- fast and nimble
- quirky but funny
- infotainment takes a learning curb but well designed overall
- rather practical, well packaged
- be ready to experience 1st generation teething
- if it comes with summer tires invest in a winter set or pass winter in a garage.
What it is not
- plush and comfy
- boring 😊
- cheap😢
- logical and comparable to other vehicle, just start from ground zero with an open mind or buy a reasonable car, they have plenty out there.
- comparable to former Minis, looks like those are now looking for a completely different clientele.
Hope this helps
That is NOT a Mini anymore! I hate their new interior design language. Especially the Mini itself. Interior looks cheap! Chrome and leather traded for cloth and plastic! Especially the cloth dashes and seats. Miss the rich leather seats with the thick oval headrest that were super comfortable. And dont get me started on the rolling arcade of a cartoon disk in the middle now! 🤮
BMW Group should get a new head designer a.s.a.p. this looks horrible!!! 🧐😵💫
I’ll pass, not my style, great review
The screen is so laggy
Nothing cheap about the head a display. The reason it has a small screen is due to the upright windscreen, it makes it impossible for BMW to put a conventional head up display in. I’m sure once you know the reason for it you will get over your hang up about it. I’ve been using it my wife’s car for about 5 years, mine has a conventional one and I have no problem with the Mini’s set up. It’s actually a very clever solution…
Right on
Too big to be called a Mini.
This review disappoints me. I know you don’t like giving negative reviews and at the start I thought you were going there on this - ugly, strange interior and controls, bad infotainment, jerky transmission, noisy, too big for a Mini. Yet around halfway through you do a 180 on it and seem to love things that are problematic and praise them as features. I do not like this vehicle at all because it’s weird for the sake of being weird. But in the questions you pick it over the XT4. Really? They are totally different classes of vehicles that don’t seem to compete. I don’t get it. I’m very confused by this review.
Naaaa, I'll pass
very ugly indeed!
My wife wants to know what shoes you’re wearing?
I bought them in New York, they are Steve Madden.
This is biggie
It tends to be glitchy
Absolutely not.
Not liking this and Mini reliability is terrible. I would never buy a Mini.
Bently and range rover combined😅
This car is so ugly, you could push the front end in dough and make gorilla cookies
Beauty. Beholder.
Nope!