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You pointed out the cycle of abuse that plagued his family and he broke that. He raised 3 well adjusted kids, 2 of which he adopted, and took custody of his brother to get him away from their mom and get him out of foster care. Music aside, dude is an incredible family man.
I met Marshall in 2002 during a layover in Charlotte. It was a late night flight, 1:40am departure so the terminal was essentially empty. I was watching some ripped Family Guy episodes on my laptop. The area of seats of I sitting was empty, at first. Then this dude moves from his row his seats and sits three seat to the left of me and he's giggling. I didn't look up but I could tell he was kinda vibing off the show and I offered to put my laptop on the little table thing so he could share in watching. He responded, "that would be dope, thanks". When I finally looked up I immediately recognized him. I proceeded to act normally and we got through about three eps before they started boarding. He was, of course, in first class so I knew we wouldn't be sitting anywhere close on the plane. I very casually asked for an autograph --- he did so without hesitation. "To [D], thanks for the support - nice to 2 meet you. MM." It was amazing to see one of the biggest stars in the world enjoy something as simple as having some quiet time watching a cartoon.
That's so cool!!!!! I live by that airport...which is the closest I will ever get to the legend. (Although I did a nice comment from Dr Dre after my daughter was killed by DUI homicide). xoPam, still Kelli's mom
Eminem was indicted in the rock and roll hall of fame just 2 years ago. To think that he cares what gen z thinks of him is completely missing the point of the album. I can understand lines being corny but its far from garbage or trash music.
I agree. Its really ironic how he criticizes peoples music literacy and analyzation of not getting the point, and they proceed to demonstrate that exact pitfall. The album spelled out the narrative pretty clearly.
if he didn't care he wouldnt make an entire album about being cancelled by them. if he didnt care what people thought about him, he wouldnt have made kamikaze which was entirely a rebuttal to critics lol.
I listened to his new album one time. Hoping for a return to form. On the second (or third) track he literally says “the f word”. Couldn’t even say the word when he was in slim shady character. That’s when I knew he was gone forever and it was gonna be weak af
I cant fathom how stupid people are. The point of the album is not “ Try to cancel me GEN Z.” He is using this point from shady’s prospective to show you how annoying , offensive, corny , Slim shady would be in today’s world. Thats why you should listen to GC2 and realize the point. Then the album transit into Em in his current state of mind. Listening to it backwards tells a different story as well.
the more i go on in the video the more i ask myself You are kidding right? The history side of your video is ok The commentary and personal input in your video are bottom tier at best
"He's still one of the most streamed rappers despite putting out garbage for 20 years" Sounds like its something there you're missing. You should rename this video "Why I think Eminem sucks"
@@HempBraum😂 I guess @anokacity hurt yours! My boy, Did *you* make this video? You didn’t come to make a comment on the actual video… you came to make a comment.. *on another comment* Lemme guess, You think reaction videos are the best huh 😅
@@LilBipperwhat are you, the youtube comment hall monitor? what's it to you what comments people respond to if they were posted publicly in an open forum? do you know what discourse is? apparently not. 😅
It kinda is tho. If u think about it, the album sounds like if Slim Shady came back and tried being controversial again which even I'll agree wouldn't really work and doesn't really work if Eminem actually means it
@@bojanglesmusic To me it's really more on how he's trying to burry his old habbits but they keep coming back to get him, which is why it ends with Somebody Save Me and Starts with Renaissance.
It definitely is part of the album but there's a way bigger picture that literally every bias ass hater is missing. Since they jus spew hate tho I won't entertain the idiots. They can grow a brain and figure that shit out by actually genuinely listening to the album.
@@JustFollowingOrders12 Crazy dumb take. The album is about how dumb it would be to complain about cancel culture instead of just considering the criticism, which is basically what the character of Slim Shady was on MMLP in 2000. He's complaining about cancel culture as the character because that's what the character does. Complaining about people getting mad IS one of the habits that he's killing.
@christianayy I'm not even that big of an eminem fan, but that shit counts for less than nothing considering somebody else wrote it. It's like having a professional painter paint something for you and then showing it to somebody to prove you're a better painter than them. It's honestly more sad than anything; I hate that biting is becoming normalized.
@@fullmetal929 you actually prefaced all that with “i’m not even that big of an eminem fan” only to proceed to show you dk about him or his work LMAO just say you a hater n we could all get on tha same page 😌
I am 52 and will always love Eminem! If all his albums are so bad why is he still so popular! He is an icon, keep making your cute jewelry and leave Em the fuck alone
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 - I know what you mean but at his height he was quasi omnipresent. I believe he is one of those acts who never lost his original fans and that will likely never change. Plus, EM sure gained some younger ones as well. Therefore, the album sales are not surprising. But compared to his glory days he is but a shadow in terms of relevance. Whereas the internet is also responsible, not just in Em's case.
from the same dude that calls future a “misunderstood genius”. Eminem has definitely stayed within a style, approach and persona. He’s also definitely had some shitty albums after his insane initial run. That however doesn’t make his music bad, or “straight garbage” over the last 20 years. The way he’s able to maintain the numbers, the approach, the lyricism and skill at 52 years old is something a lot of our favorite rappers of this generation won’t be able to do. Shit, all of the artist from his generation weren’t able to stay relevant. That just goes to show his impact, quality and skill. It’s obviously not for everyone, but to simply come to the general conclusion that “he is now trash” is far from the reality. Love your videos and your work, but need to disagree from you on this one - even though I’m not a huge Eminem/ slim shady fan.
Yeah, if one looks closely, he basically has repeated styles of making his music each 3 albums Each trilogy (excluding encore and Revival) is a Slim esque type of album, Marshall type of album and eminem type of album. Is crazy how someone can apply that formula that many times and somehow have at least, a decent output for many years.
stan can't handle criticism, as expected. comes up with COPE excuses that basically say "anybody who doesnt lick em's boots is just a hater". meanwhile em is still mocking dead people.
@@HempBraum Did you hear the álbum Escribir en inglés es agotador Dicen " a la generación z no le importa" pero pierden el tiempo diciendo que Eminem ya no es respetado y que está viejo y la chingada... Wey se arden bien gacho Y yo también soy Z que es peor pero no estoy tan pendejo como ustedes
@@HempBraum Nah the vid is good, and he is right in most of his points. But Relapse, MTBMB and especially his new album Death of Slim Shady is generally amazing. His recovery era is also very popular, though mostly to non-hiphop heads. Relapse is Tyler the Creators favourite album, and Tyler even said he owes Em an apology for shitting on recovery. And even tho he is half-praising it, it's clear that Volksgeist obviously didn't get the point of Death of Slim Shady. He's saying that the album/ or Slim Shady doesn't work in 2024. But THAT'S LITERALLY the whole point of the album, and why Em kills Slim off midway through and why the latter half of the album is pure Eminem/Marshall. The "What are you gonna do? GEN Z me bruh." that is entirely satire on Ems part. All the Slim songs are SUPPOSED to sound out of touch and like he's yelling at the clouds, because slim shady hasn't been relevant for like 15 years. And again, you have Kendrick, being asked in interviews" What about Marshall, I mean you're always supposed to believe that you are the best" and Kendrick answering "Hmm, I dunno man, I don't think anyone can match Em" and Dot saying in another interview that "He learned how to rap and storytelling by studying the Marshall Mathers LP". And these interviews are all well into his recovery/Kamikaze Era. Same with Cole who said time and time again, that Em is his biggest inspiration, and "that he literally started off on his first few songs just biting Em and Nas." I mean people trash Ems Recvery Era, but it literally spawned a whole entire genre of white rappers like Token and NF who sounds like a copy paste version of that, and even tho they're annoying as hell, they're still like hugely successful. Especially NF, I had no idea he was so big, performing in stadiums and shit, till I looked him up. So I say again, the video is amazingly produced, most of it is great and correct, but to say that Eminem hasn't had a single good album since The Eminem Show is just straight cap. Relapse is a cult classic, MMLP2 is way better than ppl credit it for, Kamikaze made LeBron go crazy when it came out, tho only have the album was good imo, MTBMB was a solid 7/10 and got pretty good ratings with critics iirc. And TDOSS is hus jest album since Relapse. And lastly, I will def trust the taste of the likes of Jay-Z, LeBron James, Kendrick Lamar, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Chris Brown, Metro Boomin, Snoop Dogg, Fat Joe and many many more when it comes to whether an Eminem album is good or not, over some random youtube channel. And every name I mentioned just now have highly praised the Death of Slim Shady album, like Rihanna saying "Wheres my feature??", Chris Brown saying "Def your best album in a while, this great 🔥🔥" or Metro Boomin tweeting "Someone tell Eminem I'm trying to lock in". And Neither Metro nor Chris Brown has ever made a song with Em or are friends with him, so you can't make that argument either.
Volksgeist sounds way too petty in this video. Eminem's discography after 2002 is trash? Have you listened to Not Afraid, Bad Guy, Beautiful, My Darling, Love The Way You Lie, Darkness and more? He has made plenty of great songs after 2002.
yeah it is but ofc he had good albums after 2002, Relapse and especially MMLP2 are albums that are still considered good. But the rest is pretty trash or mid be honest.
This vid is painful to watch because I only became a fan of Em because Kamikaze, and this vid is calling all of that trash. Man, that's just wild to me.
Eminem got cancelled so hard fir Revival he released 3 albums in 6 year on major labels. Similar to how Dave Chappelle got.cancelled and made 10 Netflix specials after that.
True, it was the same thing in both cases, just from different ends of the political spectrum. The conservative right tried to "cancel" (before it was called "cancelling") rappers, especially Eminem, with stuff like PMRC stickers, and lobbying Target and other big retailers to not carry his stuff (back when CD sales mattered)... but they failed, the almighty dollar won out, and Eminem was too popular to "cancel". And 20 years later, the same thing happened to Chappelle, expect it was the left, instead of the right, trying to censor him... but it still failed, because Chapelle was too popular to "cancel", and 90% of normal people agree with everything he said. But that doesn't mean that there WASN'T a bunch of authoritarian ideologues, gleefully bragging that they'd "cancelled" Chapelle in 2018, or Eminem in 1999... it just means those authoritarian zealots FAILED, in these two instances. But it doesn't make the authoritarian zealots, who try to control our speech, and silence anyone they disagree with, any less of authoritarian zealots, just because they FAILED at their (ongoing) attempt to silence Chappelle, for his refusal to PRETEND to believe that a man in a dress is somehow "a woman"... It just means they're authoritarian zealots... who are ALSO useless and incompetent...
I feel a lot of people missed the entire point of his last album. He's literally criticizing his past self and likening it to his drug addiction and alcoholism at the time. The idea is Slim Shady comes back to haunt him in a dream and its a dialogue about if Slim Shady tried to cancel him in 2024, it'd be stupid and ridiculous -- because it is. You can't cancel Eminem, he's already cemented. Every song on that album is focused in a unique way, though some being repetitive in their assault -- but even that is to display how 'Shady' is in reality stuck in the past and has only old, limited methods of attack. This excerpt from Guilty Conscience says it pretty firmly: (Context: Shady is speaking to Eminem) But I helped you get your stacks higher That's diamond sales like sapphires Rap buyers, admires pack lines of admirers Now they say you lack ire That's why your satire backfires Flat tires, no longer that guy you were prior to this Yeah, and I scare you 'cause I'm who you used to be The you who didn't crumble under the scrutiny When it was you and me I gave you power to use me as an excuse to be evil You created me to say everything you didn't have the balls to say What you were thinking but in a more diabolic wayYou fed me pills and a bottle of alcohol a day Made me too strong for you and lost control of me I took over you totally You were socially awkward 'til you molded me You was a loner, a nobody 'Cause of me, you didn't take shit from nobody Now look at you And then Eminem proceeds to refute everything wrong about Shady, and then literally MURDERS HIM, showing how stupid and manipulative part of that personality needs to be put down. It's not out of touch at all -- its the total opposite.
I love your work, have since the beginning. I subscribed due to your genuine takes and style. They seemed to make me see some artists in a different light. Enough to consider their artistic merits on grounds I hadn’t known or given much thought to. This particular video comes off as vitriolic and biased in tone and argument against the artist. While I’m all for contextual critique, small things like calling the music “irritating” in a way that comes off as speaking objectively gives the impression that video is less about “the rise and fall of Eminem” and is more of a “why I don’t like Eminem anymore” video. I’ve listened to Eminem over the last 20 years, and I also have issues with the last 10, so I get it. I watch all of your pieces, I think they’re well thought out and produced. I couldn’t finish this one though. This is just general thoughts of the video, not your views. Looking forward to the next one! Safety
Diddy, Lizzo, JK Rowling, DaBaby? Also, I don’t think anyone can really ever be cancelled because most of them have enough money already or continue having an audience
I'm a huge Relapse fan. Everyone complained about the accents when it came out, but in hindsight, after putting out so many albums that all sound the same, I can really appreciate what he was doing on Relapse in terms of going into different characters and sounds to explore morbid subjects that go cartoonishly over the top. Love it or hate it, it's definitely one of the albums where he sounds the most inspired.
I dont think u get the album, the death of slim shady is a concept album, the gen Z fights are over exaggerated because its happening mainly in the world that was built for the album its not supposed to be taken literally, and in regards to his words, he's saying this stuff to prove Slim Shady shouldn't exist anymore, he literally says in the album to Slim Shady, "Just immature, and literally, you're still mentally 13 and still thirsty for some controversy" so all the stuff he did say to "start stuff" was first off supposed to be done in the world of the album and was said from the perspective of Slim Shady. (BTW take this from someone that is from Gen Z).
Also Gen Z has tried to come after this guy in the past for things he's said in like the past as Slim Shady, so its not one sided Gen Z just doesn't want to admit that they lost the fight to cancel him for saying bad stuff.
Not only that, but the exact same reaction of a well amount of critics that feel like it is cheap to fall back on those exact "shock value" lyrics and him being out of touch of today's world basically tells You why Slim shady can't exist on this time no more. That and what the dude in the video said that it reached to a point where the line between his rap career and his life was all the same. Sadly, Slim is/was a product of it's time.
I guess we didn’t listen to the same album. In TDOSS, there’s a deeper meaning than just be "offensive" and it shows that you didn’t even try to analyse the album. He’s talking about the fact that his Slim persona want to come back so he can stay "relevant" to his found glory (even 20+ years later). He’s not talking to anyone except himsef. He’s mad about himself for saying fkd up sht and that it have to end, TDOSS. The two mentality clashes and only one can emerge as victorious. In Renaissance, Habits, Trouble, Brand New Dance & Houdini, he’s showing all the stuff Shady still have to offer, but with Evil, All You Got, Lucifer and Antichrist, Marshall is telling to himself that this may be not the path to take. All he did bite him right back and now he exposes it to him/slim with Breaking news and Guilty Conscience 2. He don’t care about anything or anyone more than his sanity and family stability. In Breaking news, he explicitly says (via a anchorwoman) that he want to cancel HIMSELF, he want to cancel Slim so that he can be Marshall forever. In Trouble, He doesn’t give a fk about Gen Z, he’s playing with words when he says "Gen Z me bruh", because Gen Z culture is Cancel culture. So, "Cancel me, bruh" Slim talking to Em. Then you have the rest of the album where he take the control back and klls Slim. In Tobey, he undertsand that he’s the spider-man of his own life and that the mask his not the person. Peter Parker have all his power even without his suit on, and that’s why he’s saying "Tobey Maguire got bit…" and not "Spider-Man got bit…". Afterwards, we have more emotional songs with deep meaning between him and his family. This could be his final album and he would have made full circle with Em and Slim so he can finally, only be, Marshall. He’s not a old man screaming at a cloud like y’all said, he’s screaming at himself and you can’t see it. Trans jokes in Houdini are slim’s. "Yeah, but Slim is just a name, it’s Marshall either way." He’s only showing what could’ve been his answer to trans in early 2000’s. It’s funny because in a track, he’s saying that he’s pro trans rights and I see none of y’all highlighting this, only the negative side. This is my take. I think you really went hard for nothing on him and Kamikaze and MTBMB are good albums. Y’all criticized him for offensive lyrics, but for exemple, I don’t like XXXTentation and I’m not saying shit on him for clicks. He was abusive with his girlfriend at the time but y’all praising him, just to highlight one thing. You can try to cancel Em like you want, he already did it.
This turned from a respectable doc to you shittin on him in the 2nd half like Relaspse, Recovery, Kamikaze, MTBMB and TDOSS wasn't fire. You using words like "trash" and "garbage" to describe the 2nd half of his career shows you either dislike Em, or you've never really listened to his recent albums. Very unprofessional.
You're allowed your opinions on Eminem's work but saying that everything after the Eminem Show was bad is ridiculous and saying that Eminem hasn't released a good album in 20 years is total BS to me. His discography has never been consistent but he's had his fair share of great albums and songs in his discography post-TES (I think MMLP2 and MTBMB are truly underrated albums of his) and many would argue that Relapse is a underrated masterpiece. I don't think even Eminem was taking the "Gen Z is trying to cancel me" narrative seriously and was mostly using that point to make Slim Shady look as cringey as possible. But while I disagree with a lot of your points here, I think you brought up some good points in this video.
The thing with Em is he used to just make music and that offended some people. Now it seems the intent is to make people mad opposed to writing focused songs and varying his delivery. Edit: Em trashed Candace Owens on this album, it can't be Crowder over a beat. Em is a old school liberal the left has just changed.
I said this in another comment, but you literally missed the entire point of his last album, then. He's literally criticizing his past self and likening it to his drug addiction and alcoholism at the time. The idea is Slim Shady comes back to haunt him in a dream and its a dialogue about if Slim Shady tried to cancel him in 2024, it'd be stupid and ridiculous -- because it is. You can't cancel Eminem, he's already cemented. Every song on that album is focused in a unique way, though some being repetitive in their assault -- but even that is to display how 'Shady' is in reality stuck in the past and has only old, limited methods of attack. This excerpt from Guilty Conscience says it pretty firmly: (Context: Shady is speaking to Eminem) But I helped you get your stacks higher That's diamond sales like sapphires Rap buyers, admires pack lines of admirers Now they say you lack ire That's why your satire backfires Flat tires, no longer that guy you were prior to this Yeah, and I scare you 'cause I'm who you used to be The you who didn't crumble under the scrutiny When it was you and me I gave you power to use me as an excuse to be evil You created me to say everything you didn't have the balls to say What you were thinking but in a more diabolic wayYou fed me pills and a bottle of alcohol a day Made me too strong for you and lost control of me I took over you totally You were socially awkward 'til you molded me You was a loner, a nobody 'Cause of me, you didn't take shit from nobody Now look at you
It's the other way around, when he was young, he was writing stuff with the intention of offending. Going after Pam Anderson, Tommy Lee, Britney Spears, and all of the boy bands were a calculated move to offend and get more ears onto his music. Now is the time that he's writing for himself and just playing around lyrically. For godsakes, one of the songs on the album is him having a rap battle with himself, that isn't an easy feat to pull off.
Mostly garbage music is a pretty messy generalization of his recent work. Some of it may not be for everyone but lyrically, technically and even conceptually it can blow my mind. There’s always gems to pick from his albums. I don’t need him to be going through it to enjoy or understand the music, I fuck with new em, he’s still pushing the pen and challenging himself. Death Of Slim Shady has to be one of my favorites of all time from em. He’s tapping into what made him famous to begin with while bringing his sharpened skill set. Evil, Lucifer, anti christ, fuel, road rage, bad one. These tracks are hitting, you don’t have to bump it but I’m jamming so hard to these.
What is he saying lyrically that he hasn't said in the last 20+ years? Even he admitted that he has nothing left to rap about. It's the same old shit only now it sounds tired and try hard. From a technical perspective tho he is still incredible.
Eminem had some lyrical songs but is that the majority of his catalog? No. If you think that you were tricked by the flow and skin color. Eminem has always been a simple minded rapper. There's nothing deeper there
@@SKULLKR3W I’m not hearing most rappers casually drop songs like guilty conscience 2. HELL no, Even somebody save me where it’s a what if scenario. I’m not saying this album blew my mind conceptually I’m saying his songs still can. I’m not gonna discount his new shit and call it garbage when a lot of new shit I’m hearing sounds like everything else, or more consumed by melodies and production than the actual LYRICS. This is my opinion though so take it as you will
@@JustFollowingOrders12 I’m not tricked by nothing, it’s a simple acknowledgment. You try and come up with the rhyme schemes and punch lines this man is dishing out casually like it’s fries at a diner. I’m over the boggling down of dope shit. Have your opinion, I have mine
Yeah idk why he didn't even mention relapse at all. If your a fan of hip hop as a craft than that shit is so good. He has certain pockets of cadences you can ONLY find on that album. "Stay wide awake" fucking fire.
@@Dover55 yessir, if someone like Nas would have dropped Revival his career would have been over instantly, on the other side if Eminem would have dropped The Big Day most people would say that it's forgettable but not carrier-ruining
It's a CONCEPT ALBUM MEANING IT'S A CONCEPT LIKE A MOVIE even Eminem knows Gen Z isn't actually trying to cancel him it's supposed to play like a film and you're all reaching too far into it.
@@JustFollowingOrders12 so a video that details a persons early life, rise to fame and other turning points in relation to his current life and album is not a biography in anyway. Got it 👍🏾
Exactly 😂 Em literally has only missed once and it was with revival. Every album has either been classics or solid projects. Even the numbers he did on revival could argue this.
i would say encore was a bit shakey and relapse was a bit hit or miss depending on when you joined the em train. Ogs tend to hate that one more than those who first discovered it so thats a factor. But yeah nothing about this mans career could be considered him falling off a cliff with bad music lol
Eminem basically has nothing left to rap about. And that's been the case for over 10 years now. He is no longer the underdog and it's not like there is uproar over his music either like there was back when he started.
There's a youtube channel that started a series about eminem called "Eminem sucks" where they pretty clearly prove that record label MADE him into the controversial figure he was. People were ignoring him until then
@@JustFollowingOrders12 He channeled his personal struggles through Slim Shady and by Eminem Show he was starting to outgrow it to a large extent. Its unfortunate that he could not really grow artistically because there are lots of artists who outgrow their pre-fame self and still manage to make good music,
I'm 21 years old I love the death of Slim Shady The people who hate the album don't listen to the album Like this guy who pretends to be an intellectual Man this new critics are lame as fuck And they are reason of why the older people make fun of the gen z
I like how he spends tons of time talking about how Em hasn’t made anything good since 02, then says that Em foresaw that happening, then Ems quote goes on to basically not mention his level of creating, but how stupid and wishwashy fans are. You couldn’t pay me enough to be a famous musician today. With the internet giving every know nothing jackass the ability to vomit their personal opinion about everything, whether they know about it or not and all over everyone, you’d have to be fairly masochistic to want to be in the public’s eye at this point. I mean, look at how big Em’s new album is and Volkswagen here has been shitting all over his career through most of this video.
Dave is a complete sell out, he used to be one of the funniest people alive but now it’s just sad to watch. He realized the “offensive” jokes get him more attention and money and he leaned into it and it got stale fast. He can’t come up with new material so he just says the same shit over and over and if anyone dares to say it’s boring and not funny he and his fans whine about being “cancelled”.
Eminem sucks now because he doesn't have that drive and hunger anymore. No one wants to listen to some old billionaire screaming on beats you can get off Pexel. Also his new music video of Tobey is not something a billionaire cannot make by pouring money into it. In my opinion, this the problem with "Band that grew too big". I loved Mr Beasts early content when he was in bedroom and relied on pure talent and genius. Now he just dumps millions into production. Same with David Blaine. Blaine came from the street now became a sell out to feature the "popular" RUclipsrs in his cringeshow "Ascension". Like Eminem, David lost his main brand and regurgiates the SAME two-card monte trick over and over and over again like a comedian repeating same old stale "funny" material part of his routine.
@@eSxExcellenceexactly smh ppl just be spewing the dumbest shit. Em still has the passion, drive and love for what he does that's literally why he's 52 and still fkn doing it lol He dead ass has no reason to or point to prove. He's forever one of the greatest to ever do it. I hate this whole stigma that's around Em rn. Shits so wrong and hip hop today doesn't deserve him shita crazy.
Hot take to call all of his music of the last 20 years trash. Evolving past Slim Shady was him truly embracing his pen and transcending the artform. I won't disagree that an album like Relapse (he even admitted it himself) was mid and he had some songs throughout the years that just didn't hit. But to completely disregard bodies of work like Kamikaze & MTBMB is... well, a hot take. Kamikaze had purpose in trying to evoke competition within the game while Em showed why he is Mr. Big Iron. A challenge to step up and prove him wrong that he wasn't still at the top of the game skill wise. MTBMB was him offering commentary on various relevant topics of that time period & another flex to remind people that he was still around and hadn't lost his sharpness. I think it's nice to see a conceptual work on this most recent album. It tells a story in a very unconventional manner & narrates the evolution of him as an artist. People said they wanted Shady back and obviously in 2024 Shady just kinda comes off corny. That was the point. He still obviously made sure to put in work with the pen, but it was an album that follows him from giving the fans what they asked for (Slim Shady) to being Marshall Mathers, his literal truest self. A father & family man, first & foremost. In a way, especially when in reference to a song like Brand New Dance, it's him literally picking up where he left off with Slim in 2004. We even see him adopting his Eminem persona, a fusion of Slim & Marshall. That's the person we've come to know for 20 years now. The lyrical miracle who says off the wall stuff that seems "cringy". But that's the unapologetic Slim with the raw talent & craftsmanship of Marshall. This work was personal business for him; to prove that Slim is better off in the past. That Em will still say edgy, offensive stuff because he just doesn't care & will make jokes at anyone's expense because he finds it funny. But he'll also push the culture to try to dethrone him. He wants to see someone better than him rise to the challenge. And he'll even, occasionally, make moving bodies of work purely from Marshall's perspective. Like a song for his daughter, a letter to her for after he passes. A follow up to expand on When I'm Gone. His ultimate point is he just wants to be him, whatever that is on a particular day. He wants to continually push his craft & speak his mind. And he wants hip-hop to have another Renaissance. This is the theme I think alot of Gen Z miss because they're not generally old enough to have appreciated the golden era for rap. They're not generally old enough to be parents (or young parents who can't really conceptualize the feelings he portrays in his more emotional songs). And that does, in some ways, unfortunately alienate that crowd. But he'll even say himself that you can't make everyone happy and he's not going to compromise his art for anyone. It's take it or leave it.
I’m sorry but it’s not a hot take encore,revival, and kamakazi are all horrible listens. They sonically are horrible. Lyrically are technically complex but lack any actual depth or actual point. As well as the most overused annoying,repetitive and choppy flows anyone has ever heard. Plus him trying to do the rapping fast=better makes it sound like another “death to mumble rap” rappers. He has 3 amazing albums 1 pretty good albums a bunch of mediocre albums and then 3 of the worst albums I’ve heard in a while.
It’s also not really a hot take among music fans to say that. It is a hot take among Eminem fans. To be fair though those are mostly people who don’t listen to rap.
All this biographies are entertaining but don't forget that all this famous artists are just actors, in the world stage, creations to manipulate the masses
Weirdly enough I bought what appears to be an authentic Eminem infinite album in BANGLADESH in the early 2000s. Wish I had it still…that’s how I heard it. Not a downloads at the time I was a kid listening to Eminem and Dre. Saw infinite in a cd shop and bought it. I wonder what the origin of that was.
Based on the comments, hardly anyone has actually watched the video. Anyway, this is extremely good - gave me insights into his career that I had no idea about. I would consider myself far from a fan of his, but I can admire his journey as an individual.
@@PoppyJr11 they actually do tho. You don't get the masses to listen album after album if the album before you bought was shit. Em consistently tops charts for a reason.
A couple minutes in and there’s a contradiction. Many of today’s artists were inspired by him, and the next sentence is he’s the most disrespected rapper. I mean, he’s consistently put in the top 5 by the greats. He has an Emmy, Oscar and some Grammies. He’s the biggest selling rapper of all time and in the top 5 streamed - and streaming wasn’t even a thing until years after he started. Music is subjective. Maybe you didn’t like some of his later stuff but millions of people did. There is a difference between Em the man and Slim Shady. He’s not trying to be relevant with this album. He IS relevant. He’s just bringing back what fans have been asking for. Plus he still writes and produces. So no one is really cancelling him, but it was a hell of a marketing scheme because everyone is talking about him. I’d say he’s a genius. And the only haters giving it a bad review is GenZ like why? I’ve seen a million reviews and the only bad ones are from people under 30. So maybe not canceling but certainly not understanding the origins of hip hop storytelling and lyricism. I don’t think younger people get his deadpan sarcastic humor, but that’s one of the reasons we love him. And again, subjectively, TDOSS may be boring to you, but artists old and new think it’s one of his best. You do have to know a lot of his personal and professional history to get it though.
One can be respected by some and hated by others, there's no absolute. He is respected by some of the newer rappers or their fans, keyword "some" and the other seeing him as a "comical culture vulture" So him saying that Eminem is an inspiration to some is true while also being one of the most disrespected person in rap nowadays by the other half can also be true.
That wasn’t the concept of the album tho that was just a poke at cancel culture, to show how hypocritical and fucked up it is. He can get away with saying that stuff but people have lost their jobs over tweets they made when they were younger and those tweets barely being offensive
the storytelling of his childhood and his life as a young man is one thing. it's factual. the rest is just opinion and in no way an absolute truth presented as such. if some RUclipsrs need Eminem to exist...Eminem doesn't. A life and musical trajectory worthy of mythology. Total respect to him!
The fall I'd say would be the bet awards wtf would he be doing back in the late 90s and early 2000s hanging out with him the problem is he was totally not pc and controversial what i mean is sure there were some conservatives that didn't like it because of his humor then i noticed that then the left started going crazy and they pushed cancel culture and then he joins the side of the people that wants to cancel him so he tries to sell out only to the wrong crowd as a conservative I've liked his early work but i stopped listening to him because he got political and he said fuck you to not just his fans but to trump supporters/conservatives so I've been doing what Eminem said not to listen to his music because he hates his country that he lives in and is ungrateful for the life he gets he's like Taylor Swift in a way
@@bojanglesmusic He is already 51 years old. It doesn't matter even some people try to cancel him. His whole career is already the legendary. How many rappers and singers still do the music in their 50s? Only Em can do these high level songs and writing even in his 50s. Most rappers didn't even live long enough to reach their 50s.
I just asked myself why em won’t just go in and do a nas type mixtape and the feedback for infinite explains why. He got noticed off slim so it’s hard for him to be himself and just rap. He also got compared to nas a lot too when he dropped that tape.
So he grew up, started to beat his anger, made less angry music and it's bad music? I do agree the latest album is a bit weird. But I'm disconnected, so I didn't know people are still calling him offensive. I do know there are a lot of people calling him boring, now that he's matured... Which is real mature.
super interesting that you put in the superhero part, love the detail that goes into these second part was confusing tho cause you were hella hating on the death of slim shady and then said it was one of his best albums
to be fair though when he went the route of making more heartfelt music, Spacebound for example he got shitted on critically. It's almost as if no matter what on the critical side he can never win.
😂 growing up in the 00s doesn't make you old 😂 and btw I'm 30 and don't listen to Eminem. His music appeals to a certain fan base in general. Most people I know don't listen to him 😂
As someone who grew up secretly listening to his dad's The Slim Shady LP in the car whilst growing up, it's sad to see how he's viewed now. You've made some good points and I largely agree, his music doesn't hit the same anymore and it's probably time to hang up the mic. As I am on the cusp of being a Gen Z or Millennial it's interesting to see the difference in perception between the two generations of him. Whilst I agree with most Millennials that he is probably the greatest rapper of all time, I also agree with Gen Z in their notion that the sound of hip hop has changed and he doesn't fit the scene anymore. Hip hop and rap now isn't as two dimensional as it used to be back in the late 90's earlier 2000's. There's multiple sub genre's which appeal to a wider demographic and the importance of being just a good lyricist doesn't hold the same weight that it used too.
em made 97 bonnie and Clyde, rock bottom, the way I am, Haileys song, mockingbird, role model etc I can care less what he does now hes solidified and certified one of THE GREATEST MCESS OF ALL TIME
Imo mmlp2 definitely does come close to his older albums. Lyrically it's arguably his best album, it may have some questionable beat choices, but they all add to the concept of the album, being the modern 2013 album where everyone was experimenting with different sounds while simultaneously trying to feel nostalgic and take you back to earlier days around the time he used to make his older music. It has a lot of amazing songs and song concepts, it recaptures everything that has happened to him since he made mmlp with top tier songs like bad guy, legacy, headlights, evil twin, brainless etc, it was not just the lyrical miracle stuff even tho it definitely is his most lyrical album.
I find it odd that people call Eminem's new music boring but praise artist like Tekashi 69 or these other newer rappers. My take is that Eminem fans still rock with him for what he brings to the table in terms of creative and talented styles and delivery. He's an acquired taste. This is why rare pure talents like Kendrick, Cole, Joyner and even NF are idolised or respected. People like Eminem are needed for the genre. Someone to shout at the new rappers (new kids) to stay true to the art form.. listen to Fall by Eminem and really see how he respects the artists that really put in the work.
Artist here ,5 minutes in and i love your content man and the jewlrey line is magnificent gonna cop some and rep it when i get where im headed. Im inspired thank you.
Eminem never has had a “real downfall“ I mean, sure, you can like him less then the older Eminem, but Eminem’s net worth in 2024 is $250 million. The Death Of Slim Shady made supposedly 1 Billion Streams on Spotify. He is the kind of rapper to inspire generations, and continues to.
Saying he "fell off" is crazy, he only "fell off" compare to his own peak, you gotta remember he isnt compared to his best but his best is some of the best in hiphop so ofc he fell off but compared to other artists he still doing better so saying he fell off doesnt really make sense
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Eminem: *canceled*
Christina Aguilera: Music to my ears. 😊
@Volksgeist can you find some time to do Rod wave?
you did good on this video but you didnt go into cage beef that i saw
You pointed out the cycle of abuse that plagued his family and he broke that. He raised 3 well adjusted kids, 2 of which he adopted, and took custody of his brother to get him away from their mom and get him out of foster care. Music aside, dude is an incredible family man.
Thank you!! Very true
More than just: 2 of which he adopted… they’re Kim’s (his ex) kids. That energy is so damn healed!!!
All three of his daughters graduated from college Haley just got married and is having a baby yeah he broke that curse
I admire this man for his family values.🤓🤩
I met Marshall in 2002 during a layover in Charlotte. It was a late night flight, 1:40am departure so the terminal was essentially empty. I was watching some ripped Family Guy episodes on my laptop. The area of seats of I sitting was empty, at first. Then this dude moves from his row his seats and sits three seat to the left of me and he's giggling. I didn't look up but I could tell he was kinda vibing off the show and I offered to put my laptop on the little table thing so he could share in watching. He responded, "that would be dope, thanks". When I finally looked up I immediately recognized him. I proceeded to act normally and we got through about three eps before they started boarding. He was, of course, in first class so I knew we wouldn't be sitting anywhere close on the plane. I very casually asked for an autograph --- he did so without hesitation. "To [D], thanks for the support - nice to 2 meet you. MM." It was amazing to see one of the biggest stars in the world enjoy something as simple as having some quiet time watching a cartoon.
Yo how cool! Must have been a great experience. Good for you I wish I could meet the man I love his music.
That's so cool!!!!! I live by that airport...which is the closest I will ever get to the legend. (Although I did a nice comment from Dr Dre after my daughter was killed by DUI homicide). xoPam, still Kelli's mom
Bruh I clicked this video and the suicided hot line came up
"since age twelve i've felt like i was someone else," as they say
Same here 😂
Same here😂. What is going on!!!!
Same man 😮🔫
😂😂Same!
Eminem was indicted in the rock and roll hall of fame just 2 years ago. To think that he cares what gen z thinks of him is completely missing the point of the album. I can understand lines being corny but its far from garbage or trash music.
I agree. Its really ironic how he criticizes peoples music literacy and analyzation of not getting the point, and they proceed to demonstrate that exact pitfall. The album spelled out the narrative pretty clearly.
if he didn't care he wouldnt make an entire album about being cancelled by them. if he didnt care what people thought about him, he wouldnt have made kamikaze which was entirely a rebuttal to critics lol.
@@HempBraum Except, that's exactly what you would do to pander to existing fans.
@@ryanellis2502. That’s so true! People fail to realize how they prove people points all the time!!
I listened to his new album one time. Hoping for a return to form. On the second (or third) track he literally says “the f word”. Couldn’t even say the word when he was in slim shady character. That’s when I knew he was gone forever and it was gonna be weak af
I cant fathom how stupid people are. The point of the album is not “ Try to cancel me GEN Z.” He is using this point from shady’s prospective to show you how annoying , offensive, corny , Slim shady would be in today’s world. Thats why you should listen to GC2 and realize the point. Then the album transit into Em in his current state of mind. Listening to it backwards tells a different story as well.
doesn’t make it good
@@kiddkeyzbut it is good
This must be one of those fantano types
the more i go on in the video the more i ask myself
You are kidding right?
The history side of your video is ok
The commentary and personal input in your video are bottom tier at best
Guy let he's emotions get involved after the first half 😂
Facts 👏🏼
Did you start crying?
@@WatchingyouWatchingme-p5s Never cried for a bottom tier girl, will not start for a pappi drinking cooler nor someone who is in denial
@@madinkdough9871 Sounds like you got a bit emotional in that comment there batty boy about your bottom tier girl Feminine the pop rapper😂
"He's still one of the most streamed rappers despite putting out garbage for 20 years" Sounds like its something there you're missing. You should rename this video "Why I think Eminem sucks"
did he hurt your wittle feewings?
@@HempBraum😂
I guess @anokacity hurt yours!
My boy,
Did *you* make this video?
You didn’t come to make a comment on the actual video…
you came to make a comment..
*on another comment*
Lemme guess,
You think reaction videos are the best huh 😅
@@LilBipperwhat are you, the youtube comment hall monitor? what's it to you what comments people respond to if they were posted publicly in an open forum? do you know what discourse is? apparently not. 😅
@@LilBipperyep probably creator’s burner 😆
TDOSS is not about cancel culture
It kinda is tho. If u think about it, the album sounds like if Slim Shady came back and tried being controversial again which even I'll agree wouldn't really work and doesn't really work if Eminem actually means it
@@bojanglesmusic To me it's really more on how he's trying to burry his old habbits but they keep coming back to get him, which is why it ends with Somebody Save Me and Starts with Renaissance.
@@nottog3119Two things can be true at once. The concept was both what you said, and one last excuse to complain about cancel culture
It definitely is part of the album but there's a way bigger picture that literally every bias ass hater is missing. Since they jus spew hate tho I won't entertain the idiots. They can grow a brain and figure that shit out by actually genuinely listening to the album.
@@JustFollowingOrders12 Crazy dumb take. The album is about how dumb it would be to complain about cancel culture instead of just considering the criticism, which is basically what the character of Slim Shady was on MMLP in 2000. He's complaining about cancel culture as the character because that's what the character does. Complaining about people getting mad IS one of the habits that he's killing.
one sided beef
@@Mochi1818 fr
he’s number one on BB n across all DSP’s worldwide, if it is actually a “one sided beef” it’s one he’s winning handedly anyhow 😎
@christianayy I'm not even that big of an eminem fan, but that shit counts for less than nothing considering somebody else wrote it. It's like having a professional painter paint something for you and then showing it to somebody to prove you're a better painter than them. It's honestly more sad than anything; I hate that biting is becoming normalized.
@@fullmetal929 you actually prefaced all that with “i’m not even that big of an eminem fan” only to proceed to show you dk about him or his work LMAO just say you a hater n we could all get on tha same page 😌
I am 52 and will always love Eminem! If all his albums are so bad why is he still so popular! He is an icon, keep making your cute jewelry and leave Em the fuck alone
👏
Lmaooo the ending of this video sounds like personal grudge
The Fall of Eminem? You sure buddy? Really didn't expect these garbage ass takes from such a high quality youtuber
It's not a fall but a fading from public relevance.
He definitely has fallen, in terms of notoriety, relevance, edginess and authenticity.
@saymyname2417almost 900 albums sold back in October for last album…I’d say that’s pretty relevant lol
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 - I know what you mean but at his height he was quasi omnipresent. I believe he is one of those acts who never lost his original fans and that will likely never change. Plus, EM sure gained some younger ones as well. Therefore, the album sales are not surprising.
But compared to his glory days he is but a shadow in terms of relevance. Whereas the internet is also responsible, not just in Em's case.
Infinite aged like fine wine, in my personal opinion. Never understood why it was so badly received.
from the same dude that calls future a “misunderstood genius”.
Eminem has definitely stayed within a style, approach and persona. He’s also definitely had some shitty albums after his insane initial run. That however doesn’t make his music bad, or “straight garbage” over the last 20 years.
The way he’s able to maintain the numbers, the approach, the lyricism and skill at 52 years old is something a lot of our favorite rappers of this generation won’t be able to do. Shit, all of the artist from his generation weren’t able to stay relevant.
That just goes to show his impact, quality and skill.
It’s obviously not for everyone, but to simply come to the general conclusion that “he is now trash” is far from the reality.
Love your videos and your work, but need to disagree from you on this one - even though I’m not a huge Eminem/ slim shady fan.
Yeah, if one looks closely, he basically has repeated styles of making his music each 3 albums
Each trilogy (excluding encore and Revival) is a Slim esque type of album, Marshall type of album and eminem type of album. Is crazy how someone can apply that formula that many times and somehow have at least, a decent output for many years.
This gotta be a benzino burner account 😂😂😂
Or MGK.
stan can't handle criticism, as expected. comes up with COPE excuses that basically say "anybody who doesnt lick em's boots is just a hater". meanwhile em is still mocking dead people.
@@HempBraum
Did you hear the álbum
Escribir en inglés es agotador
Dicen " a la generación z no le importa" pero pierden el tiempo diciendo que Eminem ya no es respetado y que está viejo y la chingada...
Wey se arden bien gacho
Y yo también soy Z que es peor pero no estoy tan pendejo como ustedes
@@HempBraum Nah the vid is good, and he is right in most of his points. But Relapse, MTBMB and especially his new album Death of Slim Shady is generally amazing. His recovery era is also very popular, though mostly to non-hiphop heads. Relapse is Tyler the Creators favourite album, and Tyler even said he owes Em an apology for shitting on recovery. And even tho he is half-praising it, it's clear that Volksgeist obviously didn't get the point of Death of Slim Shady. He's saying that the album/ or Slim Shady doesn't work in 2024. But THAT'S LITERALLY the whole point of the album, and why Em kills Slim off midway through and why the latter half of the album is pure Eminem/Marshall. The "What are you gonna do? GEN Z me bruh." that is entirely satire on Ems part. All the Slim songs are SUPPOSED to sound out of touch and like he's yelling at the clouds, because slim shady hasn't been relevant for like 15 years.
And again, you have Kendrick, being asked in interviews" What about Marshall, I mean you're always supposed to believe that you are the best" and Kendrick answering "Hmm, I dunno man, I don't think anyone can match Em" and Dot saying in another interview that "He learned how to rap and storytelling by studying the Marshall Mathers LP". And these interviews are all well into his recovery/Kamikaze Era. Same with Cole who said time and time again, that Em is his biggest inspiration, and "that he literally started off on his first few songs just biting Em and Nas."
I mean people trash Ems Recvery Era, but it literally spawned a whole entire genre of white rappers like Token and NF who sounds like a copy paste version of that, and even tho they're annoying as hell, they're still like hugely successful. Especially NF, I had no idea he was so big, performing in stadiums and shit, till I looked him up.
So I say again, the video is amazingly produced, most of it is great and correct, but to say that Eminem hasn't had a single good album since The Eminem Show is just straight cap.
Relapse is a cult classic, MMLP2 is way better than ppl credit it for, Kamikaze made LeBron go crazy when it came out, tho only have the album was good imo, MTBMB was a solid 7/10 and got pretty good ratings with critics iirc. And TDOSS is hus jest album since Relapse.
And lastly, I will def trust the taste of the likes of Jay-Z, LeBron James, Kendrick Lamar, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Chris Brown, Metro Boomin, Snoop Dogg, Fat Joe and many many more when it comes to whether an Eminem album is good or not, over some random youtube channel. And every name I mentioned just now have highly praised the Death of Slim Shady album, like Rihanna saying "Wheres my feature??", Chris Brown saying "Def your best album in a while, this great 🔥🔥" or Metro Boomin tweeting "Someone tell Eminem I'm trying to lock in". And Neither Metro nor Chris Brown has ever made a song with Em or are friends with him, so you can't make that argument either.
@@xErasmus The only good albums post 2002 are MMLP2 and Relapse stop lying 😭😭😭🙏🙏
Great video but I won’t stand for recovery slander.
Lol
What do you mean by ‘recovery slander?’
@@Crevy1467 there are better hip-hop albums from 2010, recovery slander is deserved
@@keinname157 hell no. Good album
@@Historicutuber I can name you 15 albums around that time that are better than Recovery easily
Volksgeist sounds way too petty in this video. Eminem's discography after 2002 is trash? Have you listened to Not Afraid, Bad Guy, Beautiful, My Darling, Love The Way You Lie, Darkness and more? He has made plenty of great songs after 2002.
yeah it is but ofc he had good albums after 2002, Relapse and especially MMLP2 are albums that are still considered good. But the rest is pretty trash or mid be honest.
Benzino must've got to the guy
most of the songs you mentioned are a 4/10 at best bro, except for darkness
He also called dave chapelle boring lol
@@dimes5905 many people have said that.that's why he was getting booed off stage at one point a few years back.
This vid is painful to watch because I only became a fan of Em because Kamikaze, and this vid is calling all of that trash. Man, that's just wild to me.
Are the opinions from the guy who did the video
Not a fact
Its popular now to hate Eminem
Why? idk
50 min Volksgeist video dropping at 3:20am?! You already know im watching the whole thing
Right!? I got the alert and was hoping a few thousand other sickos would be here w me.
Eminem got cancelled so hard fir Revival he released 3 albums in 6 year on major labels.
Similar to how Dave Chappelle got.cancelled and made 10 Netflix specials after that.
another thing they have in common tho: both sucked after the "cancellation"
@@erin4now did they suck after the "cancellation", or did they resort to "cancellation" as a crutch for their writer's block?
@@andrewkoster6506 both.
True, it was the same thing in both cases, just from different ends of the political spectrum.
The conservative right tried to "cancel" (before it was called "cancelling") rappers, especially Eminem, with stuff like PMRC stickers, and lobbying Target and other big retailers to not carry his stuff (back when CD sales mattered)... but they failed, the almighty dollar won out, and Eminem was too popular to "cancel".
And 20 years later, the same thing happened to Chappelle, expect it was the left, instead of the right, trying to censor him... but it still failed, because Chapelle was too popular to "cancel", and 90% of normal people agree with everything he said.
But that doesn't mean that there WASN'T a bunch of authoritarian ideologues, gleefully bragging that they'd "cancelled" Chapelle in 2018, or Eminem in 1999... it just means those authoritarian zealots FAILED, in these two instances.
But it doesn't make the authoritarian zealots, who try to control our speech, and silence anyone they disagree with, any less of authoritarian zealots, just because they FAILED at their (ongoing) attempt to silence Chappelle, for his refusal to PRETEND to believe that a man in a dress is somehow "a woman"...
It just means they're authoritarian zealots... who are ALSO useless and incompetent...
@@erin4nowfalse ! Em is still killn it and currently has the #1 album in every country haters eat 💩.
I feel a lot of people missed the entire point of his last album. He's literally criticizing his past self and likening it to his drug addiction and alcoholism at the time. The idea is Slim Shady comes back to haunt him in a dream and its a dialogue about if Slim Shady tried to cancel him in 2024, it'd be stupid and ridiculous -- because it is. You can't cancel Eminem, he's already cemented. Every song on that album is focused in a unique way, though some being repetitive in their assault -- but even that is to display how 'Shady' is in reality stuck in the past and has only old, limited methods of attack.
This excerpt from Guilty Conscience says it pretty firmly:
(Context: Shady is speaking to Eminem)
But I helped you get your stacks higher
That's diamond sales like sapphires
Rap buyers, admires pack lines of admirers
Now they say you lack ire
That's why your satire backfires
Flat tires, no longer that guy you were prior to this
Yeah, and I scare you 'cause I'm who you used to be
The you who didn't crumble under the scrutiny
When it was you and me
I gave you power to use me as an excuse to be evil
You created me to say everything you didn't have the balls to say
What you were thinking but in a more diabolic wayYou fed me pills and a bottle of alcohol a day
Made me too strong for you and lost control of me
I took over you totally
You were socially awkward 'til you molded me
You was a loner, a nobody
'Cause of me, you didn't take shit from nobody
Now look at you
And then Eminem proceeds to refute everything wrong about Shady, and then literally MURDERS HIM, showing how stupid and manipulative part of that personality needs to be put down. It's not out of touch at all -- its the total opposite.
Thank you for getting it. Perfectly stated.
I love your work, have since the beginning. I subscribed due to your genuine takes and style. They seemed to make me see some artists in a different light. Enough to consider their artistic merits on grounds I hadn’t known or given much thought to.
This particular video comes off as vitriolic and biased in tone and argument against the artist. While I’m all for contextual critique, small things like calling the music “irritating” in a way that comes off as speaking objectively gives the impression that video is less about “the rise and fall of Eminem” and is more of a “why I don’t like Eminem anymore” video.
I’ve listened to Eminem over the last 20 years, and I also have issues with the last 10, so I get it. I watch all of your pieces, I think they’re well thought out and produced. I couldn’t finish this one though. This is just general thoughts of the video, not your views.
Looking forward to the next one! Safety
Gen z dont have the attention span to cancel someone
Diddy, Lizzo, JK Rowling, DaBaby? Also, I don’t think anyone can really ever be cancelled because most of them have enough money already or continue having an audience
we don't care lmao one-sided beef head ahh
It's time to cancel Gen Z
@@najeefilms 🤓☝️
@@emmanuelcruz4003aight but can we be honest those are some pretty awful ppl 💀
Eminem has staying power. He really is a rap-god.
I'm a huge Relapse fan. Everyone complained about the accents when it came out, but in hindsight, after putting out so many albums that all sound the same, I can really appreciate what he was doing on Relapse in terms of going into different characters and sounds to explore morbid subjects that go cartoonishly over the top. Love it or hate it, it's definitely one of the albums where he sounds the most inspired.
I dont think u get the album, the death of slim shady is a concept album, the gen Z fights are over exaggerated because its happening mainly in the world that was built for the album its not supposed to be taken literally, and in regards to his words, he's saying this stuff to prove Slim Shady shouldn't exist anymore, he literally says in the album to Slim Shady, "Just immature, and literally, you're still mentally 13 and still thirsty for some controversy" so all the stuff he did say to "start stuff" was first off supposed to be done in the world of the album and was said from the perspective of Slim Shady. (BTW take this from someone that is from Gen Z).
Also Gen Z has tried to come after this guy in the past for things he's said in like the past as Slim Shady, so its not one sided Gen Z just doesn't want to admit that they lost the fight to cancel him for saying bad stuff.
Em attacks cancel culture but there's a deeper message and story on the album.
Not only that, but the exact same reaction of a well amount of critics that feel like it is cheap to fall back on those exact "shock value" lyrics and him being out of touch of today's world basically tells You why Slim shady can't exist on this time no more. That and what the dude in the video said that it reached to a point where the line between his rap career and his life was all the same. Sadly, Slim is/was a product of it's time.
Guys did you hear the new Eminem album? I found it really offensive we need to cancel him now!!! ✊
Not happening we've been listening to him since 1999😂😂
@@realboy24dude this is satire nobody actually cares 🤦🏿♂️
😂
@@realboy24imagine falling for satire 😂😂 gen x and millennials be fighting air 💀
😂😂😂😂😂
I guess we didn’t listen to the same album. In TDOSS, there’s a deeper meaning than just be "offensive" and it shows that you didn’t even try to analyse the album.
He’s talking about the fact that his Slim persona want to come back so he can stay "relevant" to his found glory (even 20+ years later). He’s not talking to anyone except himsef. He’s mad about himself for saying fkd up sht and that it have to end, TDOSS. The two mentality clashes and only one can emerge as victorious.
In Renaissance, Habits, Trouble, Brand New Dance & Houdini, he’s showing all the stuff Shady still have to offer, but with Evil, All You Got, Lucifer and Antichrist, Marshall is telling to himself that this may be not the path to take. All he did bite him right back and now he exposes it to him/slim with Breaking news and Guilty Conscience 2.
He don’t care about anything or anyone more than his sanity and family stability. In Breaking news, he explicitly says (via a anchorwoman) that he want to cancel HIMSELF, he want to cancel Slim so that he can be Marshall forever. In Trouble, He doesn’t give a fk about Gen Z, he’s playing with words when he says "Gen Z me bruh", because Gen Z culture is Cancel culture. So, "Cancel me, bruh" Slim talking to Em.
Then you have the rest of the album where he take the control back and klls Slim. In Tobey, he undertsand that he’s the spider-man of his own life and that the mask his not the person. Peter Parker have all his power even without his suit on, and that’s why he’s saying "Tobey Maguire got bit…" and not "Spider-Man got bit…". Afterwards, we have more emotional songs with deep meaning between him and his family.
This could be his final album and he would have made full circle with Em and Slim so he can finally, only be, Marshall.
He’s not a old man screaming at a cloud like y’all said, he’s screaming at himself and you can’t see it. Trans jokes in Houdini are slim’s. "Yeah, but Slim is just a name, it’s Marshall either way." He’s only showing what could’ve been his answer to trans in early 2000’s. It’s funny because in a track, he’s saying that he’s pro trans rights and I see none of y’all highlighting this, only the negative side.
This is my take. I think you really went hard for nothing on him and Kamikaze and MTBMB are good albums.
Y’all criticized him for offensive lyrics, but for exemple, I don’t like XXXTentation and I’m not saying shit on him for clicks. He was abusive with his girlfriend at the time but y’all praising him, just to highlight one thing. You can try to cancel Em like you want, he already did it.
Album is fire- Slim ain't dead!
Jenzimibra? 😓
This turned from a respectable doc to you shittin on him in the 2nd half like Relaspse, Recovery, Kamikaze, MTBMB and TDOSS wasn't fire. You using words like "trash" and "garbage" to describe the 2nd half of his career shows you either dislike Em, or you've never really listened to his recent albums. Very unprofessional.
Fr, so reductive.
thanks for saving me 50 mins
bruh music is subjective. neither volks nor you are wrong. he mentioned a falloff in the title, I don’t know why you’d expect him to glaze for 50 min.
@@bentimme1792 There's a difference between glazing and professionalism.
Yeah you was cooking for like the first 30 minutes and then you started spewing your own rhetoric 😂
Facts.
found the angry old head
@@glitchy_gamer092 you're right you're watching it.
Yeah I wasn’t gonna comment but then he started to just talk shit 😂 20 years of mostly garbage is a little too much.
@@Thegangsta00711 I swear he was cooking and then he started roasting 😂 which hey he's entitled to his opinion but don't speak for us 💯
You're allowed your opinions on Eminem's work but saying that everything after the Eminem Show was bad is ridiculous and saying that Eminem hasn't released a good album in 20 years is total BS to me. His discography has never been consistent but he's had his fair share of great albums and songs in his discography post-TES (I think MMLP2 and MTBMB are truly underrated albums of his) and many would argue that Relapse is a underrated masterpiece. I don't think even Eminem was taking the "Gen Z is trying to cancel me" narrative seriously and was mostly using that point to make Slim Shady look as cringey as possible. But while I disagree with a lot of your points here, I think you brought up some good points in this video.
The thing with Em is he used to just make music and that offended some people. Now it seems the intent is to make people mad opposed to writing focused songs and varying his delivery.
Edit: Em trashed Candace Owens on this album, it can't be Crowder over a beat. Em is a old school liberal the left has just changed.
It's like when people would wonder if Michael Jackson could still moonwalk years after not performing.
I said this in another comment, but you literally missed the entire point of his last album, then. He's literally criticizing his past self and likening it to his drug addiction and alcoholism at the time. The idea is Slim Shady comes back to haunt him in a dream and its a dialogue about if Slim Shady tried to cancel him in 2024, it'd be stupid and ridiculous -- because it is. You can't cancel Eminem, he's already cemented. Every song on that album is focused in a unique way, though some being repetitive in their assault -- but even that is to display how 'Shady' is in reality stuck in the past and has only old, limited methods of attack.
This excerpt from Guilty Conscience says it pretty firmly:
(Context: Shady is speaking to Eminem)
But I helped you get your stacks higher
That's diamond sales like sapphires
Rap buyers, admires pack lines of admirers
Now they say you lack ire
That's why your satire backfires
Flat tires, no longer that guy you were prior to this
Yeah, and I scare you 'cause I'm who you used to be
The you who didn't crumble under the scrutiny
When it was you and me
I gave you power to use me as an excuse to be evil
You created me to say everything you didn't have the balls to say
What you were thinking but in a more diabolic wayYou fed me pills and a bottle of alcohol a day
Made me too strong for you and lost control of me
I took over you totally
You were socially awkward 'til you molded me
You was a loner, a nobody
'Cause of me, you didn't take shit from nobody
Now look at you
It's the other way around, when he was young, he was writing stuff with the intention of offending. Going after Pam Anderson, Tommy Lee, Britney Spears, and all of the boy bands were a calculated move to offend and get more ears onto his music. Now is the time that he's writing for himself and just playing around lyrically. For godsakes, one of the songs on the album is him having a rap battle with himself, that isn't an easy feat to pull off.
Mostly garbage music is a pretty messy generalization of his recent work.
Some of it may not be for everyone but lyrically, technically and even conceptually it can blow my mind.
There’s always gems to pick from his albums. I don’t need him to be going through it to enjoy or understand the music, I fuck with new em, he’s still pushing the pen and challenging himself.
Death Of Slim Shady has to be one of my favorites of all time from em.
He’s tapping into what made him famous to begin with while bringing his sharpened skill set.
Evil, Lucifer, anti christ, fuel, road rage, bad one.
These tracks are hitting, you don’t have to bump it but I’m jamming so hard to these.
What is he saying lyrically that he hasn't said in the last 20+ years? Even he admitted that he has nothing left to rap about. It's the same old shit only now it sounds tired and try hard. From a technical perspective tho he is still incredible.
if this concept blows yo0ur mind you dont listen to much music
Eminem had some lyrical songs but is that the majority of his catalog? No. If you think that you were tricked by the flow and skin color. Eminem has always been a simple minded rapper. There's nothing deeper there
@@SKULLKR3W I’m not hearing most rappers casually drop songs like guilty conscience 2.
HELL no,
Even somebody save me where it’s a what if scenario.
I’m not saying this album blew my mind conceptually I’m saying his songs still can.
I’m not gonna discount his new shit and call it garbage when a lot of new shit I’m hearing sounds like everything else, or more consumed by melodies and production than the actual LYRICS.
This is my opinion though so take it as you will
@@JustFollowingOrders12 I’m not tricked by nothing, it’s a simple acknowledgment.
You try and come up with the rhyme schemes and punch lines this man is dishing out casually like it’s fries at a diner.
I’m over the boggling down of dope shit.
Have your opinion, I have mine
Hol up, Relapse, most of Recovery and MTBMB, along with MMLP2 and TDOSS are anything but trash they’ve got some of my favourite material from the man
Yeah idk why he didn't even mention relapse at all. If your a fan of hip hop as a craft than that shit is so good. He has certain pockets of cadences you can ONLY find on that album. "Stay wide awake" fucking fire.
if anyone BUT eminem woulda dropped Recovery or MTBMB their careers would have been over.
@@keinname157 Not at all.
@@Dover55 yessir, if someone like Nas would have dropped Revival his career would have been over instantly, on the other side if Eminem would have dropped The Big Day most people would say that it's forgettable but not carrier-ruining
@@keinname157Kanye dropped vultures 2
It's a CONCEPT ALBUM MEANING IT'S A CONCEPT LIKE A MOVIE even Eminem knows Gen Z isn't actually trying to cancel him it's supposed to play like a film and you're all reaching too far into it.
Someone gets it!
Someone with brain
Warning: Must be able to THINK CRITICALLY to enjoy the album. Eminem is a legend and nothing will ever change that and your faves could NEVER.
also , it is funny how Houdini kinda predict the opinions found in this video, everything was in it so amazing
You missed his frequent collabs with The Outsidaz from NJ. He didn’t just jump from infinite to Slim Shady LP.
This isn't a biography lol. It's not important to the video
Real fans know know!
Real ones know
@@livingbreathingperson I do. Which is why I said what I said. That's how words work.
@@JustFollowingOrders12 so a video that details a persons early life, rise to fame and other turning points in relation to his current life and album is not a biography in anyway. Got it 👍🏾
Eminem has had legit like one lackluster album in revival lol why we acting like he hasn't done anything since the Eminem Show
Exactly 😂 Em literally has only missed once and it was with revival. Every album has either been classics or solid projects. Even the numbers he did on revival could argue this.
i would say encore was a bit shakey and relapse was a bit hit or miss depending on when you joined the em train. Ogs tend to hate that one more than those who first discovered it so thats a factor. But yeah nothing about this mans career could be considered him falling off a cliff with bad music lol
Eminem basically has nothing left to rap about. And that's been the case for over 10 years now. He is no longer the underdog and it's not like there is uproar over his music either like there was back when he started.
There's a youtube channel that started a series about eminem called "Eminem sucks" where they pretty clearly prove that record label MADE him into the controversial figure he was. People were ignoring him until then
@@JustFollowingOrders12 He channeled his personal struggles through Slim Shady and by Eminem Show he was starting to outgrow it to a large extent. Its unfortunate that he could not really grow artistically because there are lots of artists who outgrow their pre-fame self and still manage to make good music,
@@chaosinorderrr agreed
I’m 17 and as “gen z” this is a banger of a album I loved it
Youre so real for this
turn out not all gen z are the losers we see on tiktok
I'm 21 years old
I love the death of Slim Shady
The people who hate the album don't listen to the album
Like this guy who pretends to be an intellectual
Man this new critics are lame as fuck
And they are reason of why the older people make fun of the gen z
@@Mr_unkn0wn1-r1m on god bro
Saying Recovery is bland makes me question your taste in music. SMH
right it was TRASH
It hasn’t aged well bro even Relapse aged better than it.
@@dmercy8477 facts
@@dmercy8477 hell no! Relapse has aged like shit
I like how he spends tons of time talking about how Em hasn’t made anything good since 02, then says that Em foresaw that happening, then Ems quote goes on to basically not mention his level of creating, but how stupid and wishwashy fans are. You couldn’t pay me enough to be a famous musician today. With the internet giving every know nothing jackass the ability to vomit their personal opinion about everything, whether they know about it or not and all over everyone, you’d have to be fairly masochistic to want to be in the public’s eye at this point. I mean, look at how big Em’s new album is and Volkswagen here has been shitting all over his career through most of this video.
You’re a weirdo for that Dave Chapelle comment. Dave is on top of his game
That’s what I was thinking, Dave Chapelle out of all people catching a stray is mad
I almost disregarded the entire video
Dave is a complete sell out, he used to be one of the funniest people alive but now it’s just sad to watch. He realized the “offensive” jokes get him more attention and money and he leaned into it and it got stale fast. He can’t come up with new material so he just says the same shit over and over and if anyone dares to say it’s boring and not funny he and his fans whine about being “cancelled”.
@@scarpalms22 tell me your political affiliation without telling me your political affiliation😭
@@Priestah203no dave just fell off bc all his material is reused bs abt "cancel culture"
The Death of Slim Shady/ The Death of Marshall is FIRE and a classic
Nostalgia bias and unresolved trauma. Eminem will never be what he was to you as a kid.
exactly! he became something different and that's why he's still here
i mean he's 50 now and evolved as an artist, why would he lol
Eminem sucks now because he doesn't have that drive and hunger anymore. No one wants to listen to some old billionaire screaming on beats you can get off Pexel. Also his new music video of Tobey is not something a billionaire cannot make by pouring money into it. In my opinion, this the problem with "Band that grew too big". I loved Mr Beasts early content when he was in bedroom and relied on pure talent and genius. Now he just dumps millions into production. Same with David Blaine. Blaine came from the street now became a sell out to feature the "popular" RUclipsrs in his cringeshow "Ascension". Like Eminem, David lost his main brand and regurgiates the SAME two-card monte trick over and over and over again like a comedian repeating same old stale "funny" material part of his routine.
@@OMEGAMAN-v5i completely disagree. You don’t fire off a verse like the one on Fuel without having any drive to show you got shit
@@eSxExcellenceexactly smh ppl just be spewing the dumbest shit. Em still has the passion, drive and love for what he does that's literally why he's 52 and still fkn doing it lol He dead ass has no reason to or point to prove. He's forever one of the greatest to ever do it. I hate this whole stigma that's around Em rn. Shits so wrong and hip hop today doesn't deserve him shita crazy.
EM Goated forever
Hot take to call all of his music of the last 20 years trash. Evolving past Slim Shady was him truly embracing his pen and transcending the artform. I won't disagree that an album like Relapse (he even admitted it himself) was mid and he had some songs throughout the years that just didn't hit. But to completely disregard bodies of work like Kamikaze & MTBMB is... well, a hot take. Kamikaze had purpose in trying to evoke competition within the game while Em showed why he is Mr. Big Iron. A challenge to step up and prove him wrong that he wasn't still at the top of the game skill wise. MTBMB was him offering commentary on various relevant topics of that time period & another flex to remind people that he was still around and hadn't lost his sharpness. I think it's nice to see a conceptual work on this most recent album. It tells a story in a very unconventional manner & narrates the evolution of him as an artist. People said they wanted Shady back and obviously in 2024 Shady just kinda comes off corny. That was the point. He still obviously made sure to put in work with the pen, but it was an album that follows him from giving the fans what they asked for (Slim Shady) to being Marshall Mathers, his literal truest self. A father & family man, first & foremost. In a way, especially when in reference to a song like Brand New Dance, it's him literally picking up where he left off with Slim in 2004. We even see him adopting his Eminem persona, a fusion of Slim & Marshall. That's the person we've come to know for 20 years now. The lyrical miracle who says off the wall stuff that seems "cringy". But that's the unapologetic Slim with the raw talent & craftsmanship of Marshall. This work was personal business for him; to prove that Slim is better off in the past. That Em will still say edgy, offensive stuff because he just doesn't care & will make jokes at anyone's expense because he finds it funny. But he'll also push the culture to try to dethrone him. He wants to see someone better than him rise to the challenge. And he'll even, occasionally, make moving bodies of work purely from Marshall's perspective. Like a song for his daughter, a letter to her for after he passes. A follow up to expand on When I'm Gone. His ultimate point is he just wants to be him, whatever that is on a particular day. He wants to continually push his craft & speak his mind. And he wants hip-hop to have another Renaissance. This is the theme I think alot of Gen Z miss because they're not generally old enough to have appreciated the golden era for rap. They're not generally old enough to be parents (or young parents who can't really conceptualize the feelings he portrays in his more emotional songs). And that does, in some ways, unfortunately alienate that crowd. But he'll even say himself that you can't make everyone happy and he's not going to compromise his art for anyone. It's take it or leave it.
So long I ain’t got time to read that😂
Nah it was all trash after The Eminem show
I’m sorry but it’s not a hot take encore,revival, and kamakazi are all horrible listens. They sonically are horrible. Lyrically are technically complex but lack any actual depth or actual point. As well as the most overused annoying,repetitive and choppy flows anyone has ever heard. Plus him trying to do the rapping fast=better makes it sound like another “death to mumble rap” rappers. He has 3 amazing albums 1 pretty good albums a bunch of mediocre albums and then 3 of the worst albums I’ve heard in a while.
It’s also not really a hot take among music fans to say that. It is a hot take among Eminem fans. To be fair though those are mostly people who don’t listen to rap.
"Transending the artform" is literally one of the most delusional Stan takes I've ever heard. He didn't transend anything. He's an average pop rapper
MGK fan made this shit
The fall of Eminem? I don’t think we’re living on the same planet buddy
All this biographies are entertaining but don't forget that all this famous artists are just actors, in the world stage, creations to manipulate the masses
Weirdly enough I bought what appears to be an authentic Eminem infinite album in BANGLADESH in the early 2000s. Wish I had it still…that’s how I heard it. Not a downloads at the time I was a kid listening to Eminem and Dre. Saw infinite in a cd shop and bought it. I wonder what the origin of that was.
I think the out of touch part of the death of slim shady is on purpose to show how out of touch the character slim shady is in 2024
What great editing, started the video at 1am thinking I’d just start a few minutes, but ended up watching the whole thing 🔥
Based on the comments, hardly anyone has actually watched the video. Anyway, this is extremely good - gave me insights into his career that I had no idea about. I would consider myself far from a fan of his, but I can admire his journey as an individual.
Nah from the title alone it's triggering and click bait I'm good lol Em has gone platinum in 4 fkn decades fell off where ? 😂😂😂
@@joestats7612numbers don’t mean everything, if they did than every Drake album is a classic.
@@PoppyJr11 they actually do tho. You don't get the masses to listen album after album if the album before you bought was shit. Em consistently tops charts for a reason.
36:34 the only thing thats bad after 2002 is ur mother
A couple minutes in and there’s a contradiction. Many of today’s artists were inspired by him, and the next sentence is he’s the most disrespected rapper. I mean, he’s consistently put in the top 5 by the greats. He has an Emmy, Oscar and some Grammies. He’s the biggest selling rapper of all time and in the top 5 streamed - and streaming wasn’t even a thing until years after he started. Music is subjective. Maybe you didn’t like some of his later stuff but millions of people did. There is a difference between Em the man and Slim Shady. He’s not trying to be relevant with this album. He IS relevant. He’s just bringing back what fans have been asking for. Plus he still writes and produces. So no one is really cancelling him, but it was a hell of a marketing scheme because everyone is talking about him. I’d say he’s a genius. And the only haters giving it a bad review is GenZ like why? I’ve seen a million reviews and the only bad ones are from people under 30. So maybe not canceling but certainly not understanding the origins of hip hop storytelling and lyricism. I don’t think younger people get his deadpan sarcastic humor, but that’s one of the reasons we love him. And again, subjectively, TDOSS may be boring to you, but artists old and new think it’s one of his best. You do have to know a lot of his personal and professional history to get it though.
One can be respected by some and hated by others, there's no absolute. He is respected by some of the newer rappers or their fans, keyword "some" and the other seeing him as a "comical culture vulture"
So him saying that Eminem is an inspiration to some is true while also being one of the most disrespected person in rap nowadays by the other half can also be true.
They didnt. The whole point of Slim Shady this time around was tryna get canceled tho.
You should maybe try watching the video
you obviously didn't watch the video. just read the title lol
Fuck watching the video listen to the fkn album. It's much deeper than just tryna get cancelled smh
goofy ass concept for a album
That wasn’t the concept of the album tho that was just a poke at cancel culture, to show how hypocritical and fucked up it is. He can get away with saying that stuff but people have lost their jobs over tweets they made when they were younger and those tweets barely being offensive
I was behind the whole video until 43 minutes in when you said Dave Chappelle stand ups are boring. L take
his new one are
You are giving Em exactly what he wanted :D
How exactly did he give em exactly what he wanted
the storytelling of his childhood and his life as a young man is one thing. it's factual. the rest is just opinion and in no way an absolute truth presented as such. if some RUclipsrs need Eminem to exist...Eminem doesn't. A life and musical trajectory worthy of mythology. Total respect to him!
Finally someone who gets that it was Eminems storytelling that made him great 👏🏻
fantastic analysis!
The gentleman from Detroit is many things but I don't believe boring is one of them.
If you are a eminem fan button ---->
I'm Gen Y. Born in '88. I've been a Stan since 2000.
And I agree, after The Eminem Show it's not the same caliber, unfortunately.
This channel is a so underrated
The fall I'd say would be the bet awards wtf would he be doing back in the late 90s and early 2000s hanging out with him the problem is he was totally not pc and controversial what i mean is sure there were some conservatives that didn't like it because of his humor then i noticed that then the left started going crazy and they pushed cancel culture and then he joins the side of the people that wants to cancel him so he tries to sell out only to the wrong crowd as a conservative I've liked his early work but i stopped listening to him because he got political and he said fuck you to not just his fans but to trump supporters/conservatives so I've been doing what Eminem said not to listen to his music because he hates his country that he lives in and is ungrateful for the life he gets he's like Taylor Swift in a way
you never fail to deliver, man
Eminem is not counter-cultural anymore and he should stop trying SO hard to be.
Hopefully he will be after this album since especially this album, he sounded like as if Slim Shady was still here and trying to be controversial
@@bojanglesmusic He is already 51 years old. It doesn't matter even some people try to cancel him. His whole career is already the legendary. How many rappers and singers still do the music in their 50s? Only Em can do these high level songs and writing even in his 50s. Most rappers didn't even live long enough to reach their 50s.
I just asked myself why em won’t just go in and do a nas type mixtape and the feedback for infinite explains why. He got noticed off slim so it’s hard for him to be himself and just rap. He also got compared to nas a lot too when he dropped that tape.
So he grew up, started to beat his anger, made less angry music and it's bad music? I do agree the latest album is a bit weird. But I'm disconnected, so I didn't know people are still calling him offensive. I do know there are a lot of people calling him boring, now that he's matured... Which is real mature.
super interesting that you put in the superhero part, love the detail that goes into these
second part was confusing tho cause you were hella hating on the death of slim shady and then said it was one of his best albums
to be fair though when he went the route of making more heartfelt music, Spacebound for example he got shitted on critically. It's almost as if no matter what on the critical side he can never win.
Did you just say Eminem is 53? You can’t do a quick google search to see he’s 51?
0:46 it's actually okay to say kendrick is bigger than drake now he's 12th in the world on spotify while drake is 14th
I don't think anyone cancelled the guy, he's just irrelevant and his music appeals to old people who grew up in the 00's
Hey, I'm only 29😂😂😂
Imagine being old and growing up in the 2000's?
@@anokacity Exactly😂😂😂
I know, right? They don't play his music in the club anymore.
😂 growing up in the 00s doesn't make you old 😂 and btw I'm 30 and don't listen to Eminem. His music appeals to a certain fan base in general. Most people I know don't listen to him 😂
As someone who grew up secretly listening to his dad's The Slim Shady LP in the car whilst growing up, it's sad to see how he's viewed now. You've made some good points and I largely agree, his music doesn't hit the same anymore and it's probably time to hang up the mic. As I am on the cusp of being a Gen Z or Millennial it's interesting to see the difference in perception between the two generations of him. Whilst I agree with most Millennials that he is probably the greatest rapper of all time, I also agree with Gen Z in their notion that the sound of hip hop has changed and he doesn't fit the scene anymore. Hip hop and rap now isn't as two dimensional as it used to be back in the late 90's earlier 2000's. There's multiple sub genre's which appeal to a wider demographic and the importance of being just a good lyricist doesn't hold the same weight that it used too.
The thing is his day 1 fans are not angry kids anymore. I dont listen to him anymore and thats fine with me
That was my jam 😂 19:15
em made 97 bonnie and Clyde, rock bottom, the way I am, Haileys song, mockingbird, role model etc I can care less what he does now hes solidified and certified one of THE GREATEST MCESS OF ALL TIME
If he’d just hung it up in 2003, his legacy (artistically) would have been almost flawless.
What AI program are you using for the Eminem voice?
Imo mmlp2 definitely does come close to his older albums. Lyrically it's arguably his best album, it may have some questionable beat choices, but they all add to the concept of the album, being the modern 2013 album where everyone was experimenting with different sounds while simultaneously trying to feel nostalgic and take you back to earlier days around the time he used to make his older music. It has a lot of amazing songs and song concepts, it recaptures everything that has happened to him since he made mmlp with top tier songs like bad guy, legacy, headlights, evil twin, brainless etc, it was not just the lyrical miracle stuff even tho it definitely is his most lyrical album.
I find it odd that people call Eminem's new music boring but praise artist like Tekashi 69 or these other newer rappers. My take is that Eminem fans still rock with him for what he brings to the table in terms of creative and talented styles and delivery. He's an acquired taste. This is why rare pure talents like Kendrick, Cole, Joyner and even NF are idolised or respected. People like Eminem are needed for the genre. Someone to shout at the new rappers (new kids) to stay true to the art form.. listen to Fall by Eminem and really see how he respects the artists that really put in the work.
Artist here ,5 minutes in and i love your content man and the jewlrey line is magnificent gonna cop some and rep it when i get where im headed. Im inspired thank you.
Such a stan you can't even say INSANE CLOWN POSSE.
Didn't get the memo proof squashed the beef?
And Em even gave J props in a verse.
What fall?
I feel ya bro
I think the best is still yet to come…
43:49 "who is he talking to !" 😭😭😭
He's obviously talking to him 😂
Ayyy wiki mentioned
Eminem never has had a “real downfall“ I mean, sure, you can like him less then the older Eminem, but Eminem’s net worth in 2024 is $250 million. The Death Of Slim Shady made supposedly 1 Billion Streams on Spotify. He is the kind of rapper to inspire generations, and continues to.
Em's a real, raw, lyrical genius, ....and a human being.
hmm... as a member of this Gen Z, i dont recall doing such a thing 😮!
Saying he "fell off" is crazy, he only "fell off" compare to his own peak, you gotta remember he isnt compared to his best but his best is some of the best in hiphop so ofc he fell off but compared to other artists he still doing better so saying he fell off doesnt really make sense
People thought Kanye was being ironic, and he was serious. I definitely thought EM was a bit disturbing like Stan. Stan just blew me.
Eminem is my favorite rapper of all time G.O.A.T Legend Rap God the best that ever did it lyrical genius 💯💥💣🔥🏆👑 been listening 2 em since the 90s yo