Video Corrections: - Most members of the Spawn Masons actually had coordinates to base rather than just the "higher ranking" members. - carpo0 is actually supposed to be spelled "karpo0"
........NOPE,IT WAS WELL KEPT FOR ONE REASON----IT COULD'VE BE REAL INSULT TO MASONS,JUST ABOUT HOW WELL IT WAS KEPT .....SO,NOW WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND STRONGEST GROUPS ON 2B2T THAT WAS *_REALLY_* PISSED OFF TWICE IN A SHORT TIME....NOW,AND THAT BOAT TP INCIDENT .....SO....MASONS NOW WILL WAGE A WAR THAT WILL SHADOW EVEN RUSHER WAR BY IT'S INTENSITY
What if I told you there is a real 1 block wide base? its ungriefable. because its 1 block wide and long, so the moment its greifed its replaced again.
@@Pigeon_Moment I didn't specify how tall BTW, its full height except its a whole base, with every essential stacked ontop of one another, with the exception of a bed and some other 2 block essentials
@@go-xn8ow that "drama" that got some members so angry that they leaked the base was an actual discord grooming ring the creators built. Basically using their Minecraft clout to groom children (which obviously are quite abundant in Minecraft and are easily impressed).
this base is the embodiment of what my computer science teacher once told me about security: "the weakest link in any security system is the human user". The spawn masons really did go as far technologically to conceal the coordinates of their base as possible, developing a proxy server with a whitelist and patching just about any coordinate exploit. But what they couldn't patch up was common rookie mistakes made when hiding a base on 2b2t - leaving chunk trails behind (they made this mistake twice lol), disclosing base coordinates to untrustworthy players and of course... building a humungous base close enough to spawn such that the odds of it being found simply by accident were too high.
to be fair I think the player was probably trustworthy when they were first given the co-ords, it's just when they found out about the evidence of grooming in spawnmasons they didn't want to just do nothing.
video creator is a pussy who didn't say it cuz he wants ads but they leaked the coords becasue the owners were actual pedophiles who used their status on the server for easier access to kids soooo yeah I think they did something good
Ngl this would be a great lesson in terms of security. One can easily overengineer a component in the system, but in practice, the weakest part that gets overlooked is usually the point of entry leading to a full compromise.
Up until windows 10 all systems could be accessed because of how windows archived files. It was so simple yet was a major cause of multiple hacks, simply because you could run any file with administrative privileges. In most cases its always the most simple things.
@@barodrinksbeer7484 I guess you're talking about the ZipSlip attacks. It is an issue but I've never got hit by it. Not even close. I personally deploy multiple layers of defense on my devices, from using non-privileged accounts to running (properly setup) virtual machines; and have been using them for years. Never rely on UAC and you'll generally be safe from primitive ZipSlip "escalation" attacks like what you mentioned.
More specifically, the weakest link is always the weakest human in an organization. This is why social engineering is so successful at compromising organizations. As seen here, it wasn't the technology, it was the human factor that caused the downfall of that base.
fitmc talked about it in his video on skymasons, but the stashes the masons used were made by Lesurv, lead dev of baritone and the main contributor of nocom. The stashes owned by the masons were full of randomized shulkers and arranged in a special pattern to enable players to walk through the stashes a website recorded the contents and locations of items within the stashes. that, coupled with a unique fork of baritone enabled bots to retrieve items from those stashes, while greifers would struggle due to the randomness of the items the baritone bots also double as sentries, and were connected to discords to ping spawnmason members in case an unknown account ever came in range of the stash the masons held hundreds of thousands of items in stashes like these, most of them obtained using nocom coordinates in theory, those stashes could be used to rebuild elsewhere
I know it's just a game, and it's on 2b2t so it was inevitable, but there's always something heart wrenching seeing people's bases get destroyed, especially ones of this scale.
Eh, they probably have ones just as cool on their personal servers. And if they really were gr00ming children, I say blow it to hell. Feel bad for the person who leaked it though, they likely put a lot of effort into it as well.
My base is about a million blocks away from spawn(About 300,000 from the nearest highway). It amazing the amount of people who have come and left signs and yet the only griefing that has taken place is my beacons were stolen, not a huge deal. I think the whole part is mine is a solo base of just a sea city with a light house and a few buildings, nothing truly amazing compared to other builders.
Trying to build a base on 2B2T is like trying to set up a house of cards in the eye of a storm. It’s pretty much guaranteed it’ll get destroyed at some point.
Survivorship bias. We only hear about the ones that get griefed. There could be 100s out there still intact and we’d never know about it until they get destroyed.
@@imrevig7261 honestly. These builds are only impressive because of the scale, the reality is 95% of those blocks were placed by bots, not people, so it’s kind of soulless
Yeah, this always struck me as weird. Why make anything on 2b2t if the chances of your work getting destroyed is so high? I guess I just don't get the mindset of either person. As you say, if I wanted to build a big structure or something so creative, I'd just make a private server.
@@ChronicNOTAG Builds are made on 2B2Ts of making milestones of not getting destroyed for certain period of time. The spawn mason structure was made with bots to accomplish something that will remain for years:A gigantic structure that would grab everyone's attention and respect. There would be no reason for it to be done on a private server as who's gonna see it? I dont know how to explain this but 2B2T was the reason all these builds were made. From what I know, they definitely wouldnt make it so that it gets destroyed by griefers.
My guess is the base was already being abandoned. They have moved onto a new base much further from spawn with much more attention to detail and keeping the base safe. That's why the base was left undefended despite it taking 30 hours to grief.
Seriously a spectacular build. I have to commend the griefing teams too. It's interesting how they took serious measures to prevent leakage inside but forgot or neglected arbitrary ways random players could find it and not make sure every member understood risks. Either way, amazing dedication.
They need to have bot choose the initial base coordinates and then make every builder build through proxies. That way literally no one would know the coords.
That's what I thought was going to be the case when initially hearing that no one knew the co-ordinates. The main issues they'd have to have an initial clean up tnt duper thing completely automated, which would be very hard indeed.
This reminds me of a lesson in cybersecurity I once had where the lecturer explained that no matter how secure and impenetrable your defences are, the weakest link will always be the humans that are in charge of those defences.
The fact that there are entire groups just about griefing makes me laugh. Imagine being such an unlikable person that not only do you enjoy destroying the hard work of others, you *organize* it.
Making a name of yourself through infamy is just as cool as through good. At the end of the day both are a waste of time on a block game, but still. It’s not evil it’s just what people enjoy to do
Yeah when he said "Team Avolition" it took me back a decade to when I was an active fan of theirs. I have no idea if Avo is still a thing at this point, or if life responsibilities and such have split the team.
Best way to protect your base: Play alone and don't trust anyone. Although it becomes almost like singleplayer then. I did something like this a while ago on 2B2T, travelled over a million blocks away from spawn and set up a base. After almost a year, my base still hasn't been found by anyone.
The best way to protect a base is to have better people in general. You need to be a certain kind of spiteful and jealous pillock to actually want to grief other person's creation. It's like the US meddling in the Middle East, China screwing over its people and Putin masturbating over Ukraine. And the fun part is should something catastrophic happen on this planet I'm more afraid of the people than the catastrophe to be honest because death comes anyway and it's at least impersonal.
I’m a total noob of Minecraft to the point where at the 7 minute mark I realized the avatar you were using was actually you instead of B-roll 🤦♂️ I love this video. For the first time in all the years since Minecraft has been out, you gave me an understanding that it’s a bunch of people coming together on one infinite map. Sounds so cool, I think I’ll check Minecraft out now :) btw a lot of terms, made no sense to me. Like b2bt, hopefully I can look back at this video when I’m more experienced and appreciate it a lot more when I know better
2b2t (abbreviation of 2 builders 2 tools) is simply the name of the server he was playing on. just a heads up, this is not the typical minecraft server, its an anarchy server where there are pretty much no rules, hacking and exploting are expected and lets just say the chat is "an experience".
@@user-10021 they are actually people who hate child groomers the whole reason it was leaked was because all the spawnmasons defended and supported child grooming
I would really like to see someone try something like this again, that is further from spawn and with no chunk trails. Wonder how long it could survive...
I know this guy is friends with FitMC but Sal's videos are so much better in every way. There's just some sort of touch that Sal puts in these that make them great. Wish he'd upload more but that would probably conflict with his process.
I would love to know the reason the insider leaked the base coords, my mind goes to the worst places for what those members could have done for the insider to make that decision
Honestly, it likely WAS something like that, as I'm sure the insider also built at the base, which means he choose to destroy all the effort he put into building the place. To be willing to destroy something you put many real life days into, you must have a good reason.
Yeah it was likely one of those really bad things and if so, good on the leaker. The balls to not only ruin hundreds to thousands of hours of your own work but to also risk angering such a powerful group to stand up for what is morally right.
I love all these 2b2t videos, i find it absolutely fascinating that something so anarchic exists. But one question I've had for a while: if the stuff was griefed info oblivion or something doesn't exist anymore, where do you get such great footage of these builds for your video?
@@joshuadalton6063 Because world downloads are huge and no one will have the capability (at least at home) to download the whole server and other methods to find bases are easier than downloading a certain part of the world. But there is a huge spawn area world, i think Fit made a video about it and it's a goldmine for grifers
People on 2b2t who make bases like this have balls of steel. Hundreds of hours go into these bases, and they are built in a server where everybody wants to just destroy.
@@unknowndev392 It still takes a massive amount of effort though. The bots aren't magic "click one button for cool megabase" you still need to do a lot of setup and desing. Plus there was definitely a bunch of handbuilt stuff there.
@@yayayayayaya8140 i do not play on smps, because i do not enjoy either griefing, nor getting griefed. also i didnt say i was mad, people may enjoy whatever they like, doesnt bother me. and for the watching part, i can watch whatever i like, what the hell ? why cant i inform myself about stuff without... consuming it ? the only thing my comment shall reflect is my misunderstanding of the joy derived from griefing other players. thats just beyond me, but again, if people enjoy it, all power to them.
@@911WASanINSIDEjob420 How is it bad behavior? Builders know they're on an anarchy server. If they didn't want their things to be targeted, they wouldn't play on such a server. Half the fun of building on an anarchy server is knowing someone can destroy it at any point - seeing how long your build can last.
It's crazy to think that somewhere out there in 2b2t there is just a massive base that will never be found because those people just built like 3mil blocks from spawn and covered their tracks and just don't tell anyone about it.
i think if you have a proxy like this, its not too hard to modify it to work with multiple accounts on 2b, so everything you build is built on multiple locations at the same time
I respect you so much for putting "attack on tarir" from gw2 in your videos, your like one of the only people who uses guild wars 2 music and I respect the hell out of it!
I love hearing hollow knight music in completely unrelated videos hollow knight music is so good it reached the ranks of “IDK what that game is but I’m gonna use it’s music”
Perhaps not quite. At that distance you may be able to measure the imperfections of floating point numbers to figure out where you are. Circumventing this would require re-writing the code of the client completely to obfuscate the actual position of the player. Doable, and not really all that difficult, but I'd be surprised if they actually did it.
Despite all means of jamming a person's instruments in preventing it to be found, they still couldn't jam the most important part, the human eyes, which well is funny, to say the least, and the classic betrayal in 2b2t.
i always find these videos so entertaining and funny because its crazy to me how huge the minecraft community is lmaooo here i am thinking playing solo on survival is cool, and then there are ppl like this with whole ass lore LMAOO i love it
I wonder if it would be possible to essentially have a single player control two proxy accounts from the proxy server at the same time That way they'd be building the same base in two different locations on 2b2t
That's actually a good idea! But you would have to think about some edge cases, for example if a mob is there, it would be just at one base. Or if something gets griefed or destroyed by flame, explosion or other random situations that cause the bases to be out of sync
@@whythosenames Yeah, you'd also basically need the near exact starting environment and starting resources to prevent issues Maybe having some of those baritone ai / bot accounts to farm stuff and keep monitor of stock would help with that resource issue to prevent it from ever coming out of sync Could also be used to interact with mobs for the gathering of resources such as wool from sheep, however the players on the proxy server just wouldn't be able to
Appreciate u mentioning the dark forest theory. The thought never crossed my mind and the similarities are insane, 2b2t is practically a dark forest universe.
tbh, the thing about slimes doesnt seem that great, someone could probably still get knockbacked or damaged by slimes which could eventually reveal slime chunks
me neither so dumb how people want to just destroy what others put hours into making, plus it just looks so sick they must get enjoyment out of it or something
Kinda shows that Hermetilock's plan to finally end the Spawn Masons unfortunately failed. He was the original founder with his buddy D_Loaded but just got so sick of all the Minecraft fanatics that had flooded the Masons that he wanted to end them for good by destroying their last known base, Donfeur 18. The Masons' ideologies of Minecraft haven't changed it would seem, using a proxy to fully disguise their base as somewhere else, sheesh, in the words of FitMc, "It's just a block game!".
Dude I swear these 2b2t players can make a program powerful enough to pose as an international security risk and then use that program to "haha exploit child block game"
Honestly the tech behind this was, as you said, pure genius. And it almost worked, only reason it didn't was cus of messy handling and foul play. So really, as far as we know the system's still full proof! Well, nothing's full proof, and griefers always find a but. But still, randomizing and changing everything down to bedrock patterns and block rotations is awesome. They clearly thought through everything they could. Are clouds disabled too? In all of the pre-leak footage I saw there were no clouds, and they can be used to reverse engineer coordinates sometimes too.
Video Corrections:
- Most members of the Spawn Masons actually had coordinates to base rather than just the "higher ranking" members.
- carpo0 is actually supposed to be spelled "karpo0"
So.... The whole story is basically some random person in the group gave it out. CrAzY sToRy BrO
Correction: You would have been given real coords on your main if you actually participated in the masons
@@TheTodarac I enjoy my time touching grass on occasion.
@@SalC1 W
@@SalC1 u can literally put grass on ur keyboard.. i did that too
There's nothing stopping them (and others) to just do it again. After all, the tech wasn't the reason why it failed.
Yeah, it'd be fascinating to look at their proxy code but I doubt it's open source or will be
@@Bezopasan omg im SUCH a big fan
@@Bezopasan hahaha nice
........NOPE,IT WAS WELL KEPT FOR ONE REASON----IT COULD'VE BE REAL INSULT TO MASONS,JUST ABOUT HOW WELL IT WAS KEPT
.....SO,NOW WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND STRONGEST GROUPS ON 2B2T THAT WAS *_REALLY_* PISSED OFF TWICE IN A SHORT TIME....NOW,AND THAT BOAT TP INCIDENT .....SO....MASONS NOW WILL WAGE A WAR THAT WILL SHADOW EVEN RUSHER WAR BY IT'S INTENSITY
@@Bezopasan this man deserves to be YT famous! His 2b content is some of the best out there!
At this point, I won't be suprised if someone found a hidden 2b2t base that is only a block in width and length.
What if I told you there is a real 1 block wide base?
its ungriefable.
because its 1 block wide and long, so the moment its greifed its replaced again.
@@igameidoresearchtoo6511 Uhhh...
@@_ZeroMaximum_ He does have a point...
@@Pigeon_Moment I didn't specify how tall BTW, its full height except its a whole base, with every essential stacked ontop of one another, with the exception of a bed and some other 2 block essentials
@@Bezopasan Yas queen!
Ah, so the base's weakness was that it has more than one member and therefore vulnerable to drama.
Well, drama is one way to call it.
Grooming ring is another.
new plan, nerve staple all the members so none of them can start drama
@@LoisoPondohva wait what
@@go-xn8ow that "drama" that got some members so angry that they leaked the base was an actual discord grooming ring the creators built. Basically using their Minecraft clout to groom children (which obviously are quite abundant in Minecraft and are easily impressed).
@@ovencake523 I haven't heard that term in 20 years...
this base is the embodiment of what my computer science teacher once told me about security: "the weakest link in any security system is the human user".
The spawn masons really did go as far technologically to conceal the coordinates of their base as possible, developing a proxy server with a whitelist and patching just about any coordinate exploit. But what they couldn't patch up was common rookie mistakes made when hiding a base on 2b2t - leaving chunk trails behind (they made this mistake twice lol), disclosing base coordinates to untrustworthy players and of course... building a humungous base close enough to spawn such that the odds of it being found simply by accident were too high.
to be fair I think the player was probably trustworthy when they were first given the co-ords, it's just when they found out about the evidence of grooming in spawnmasons they didn't want to just do nothing.
We will hear this from AI when it starts lining us up next to a wall...
It was literally hundreds of thousands blocks away
@@werewolfwebsite There was no evidence of grooming. I saw their video. It is incredibly pathetic excuse to be trash....
"I'm such a badass, I spent more than a day of my life to destroy a humongous building from someone that did absolutely nothing to me"
“Did absolutely nothing to me”
Bro is forgetting the Ihop incident
What is the ihop incidente
@@sowth_music
@@juliagalvaomendes4489 I don’t know the details but some of skymasons did bad things relating to an ihop.
@@juliagalvaomendes4489 Jared from subway
video creator is a pussy who didn't say it cuz he wants ads but they leaked the coords becasue the owners were actual pedophiles who used their status on the server for easier access to kids soooo yeah I think they did something good
Ngl this would be a great lesson in terms of security. One can easily overengineer a component in the system, but in practice, the weakest part that gets overlooked is usually the point of entry leading to a full compromise.
Up until windows 10 all systems could be accessed because of how windows archived files. It was so simple yet was a major cause of multiple hacks, simply because you could run any file with administrative privileges. In most cases its always the most simple things.
@@barodrinksbeer7484
I guess you're talking about the ZipSlip attacks. It is an issue but I've never got hit by it. Not even close. I personally deploy multiple layers of defense on my devices, from using non-privileged accounts to running (properly setup) virtual machines; and have been using them for years. Never rely on UAC and you'll generally be safe from primitive ZipSlip "escalation" attacks like what you mentioned.
A lock is as good as it's weakest chain.
More specifically, the weakest link is always the weakest human in an organization. This is why social engineering is so successful at compromising organizations. As seen here, it wasn't the technology, it was the human factor that caused the downfall of that base.
@@skybirdprojects5489 It also helps if the group you're targeting is a pedo ring with members who actively want to see it fall
The determination of the one guy to spend 30 hours just to remove a base by himself is insane
yep
Bro must have nothing else going on for him IRL
Bro could have just got some friends on 💀💀💀
@@beanbagburrito do you really think that someone who spends 30 hours on a kids game ruining some strangers base has any friends?
@@sadthomas5067 no💀💀💀💀
fitmc talked about it in his video on skymasons, but the stashes the masons used were made by Lesurv, lead dev of baritone and the main contributor of nocom.
The stashes owned by the masons were full of randomized shulkers and arranged in a special pattern to enable players to walk through the stashes
a website recorded the contents and locations of items within the stashes. that, coupled with a unique fork of baritone enabled bots to retrieve items from those stashes, while greifers would struggle due to the randomness of the items
the baritone bots also double as sentries, and were connected to discords to ping spawnmason members in case an unknown account ever came in range of the stash
the masons held hundreds of thousands of items in stashes like these, most of them obtained using nocom coordinates
in theory, those stashes could be used to rebuild elsewhere
I know it's just a game, and it's on 2b2t so it was inevitable, but there's always something heart wrenching seeing people's bases get destroyed, especially ones of this scale.
Eh, they probably have ones just as cool on their personal servers. And if they really were gr00ming children, I say blow it to hell. Feel bad for the person who leaked it though, they likely put a lot of effort into it as well.
It was funny
I liked it
@@wabc2336ok kid
@@wabc2336the reaction can be the funny part, there isn’t anything actually funny about the destruction itself
My base is about a million blocks away from spawn(About 300,000 from the nearest highway). It amazing the amount of people who have come and left signs and yet the only griefing that has taken place is my beacons were stolen, not a huge deal. I think the whole part is mine is a solo base of just a sea city with a light house and a few buildings, nothing truly amazing compared to other builders.
thanks for the invite
Coming to grief it rn
time to grief
Catch ya at your base :) maybe get a dinner ready
Tracking location now
Trying to build a base on 2B2T is like trying to set up a house of cards in the eye of a storm. It’s pretty much guaranteed it’ll get destroyed at some point.
Haha, Storm
but why dont they simply save it in litematica and make a bot rebuild it
Survivorship bias. We only hear about the ones that get griefed. There could be 100s out there still intact and we’d never know about it until they get destroyed.
@@imrevig7261 honestly. These builds are only impressive because of the scale, the reality is 95% of those blocks were placed by bots, not people, so it’s kind of soulless
Grown men griefing 💀💀
Man, at that point they were better off making a private server 😂
Yeah, this always struck me as weird. Why make anything on 2b2t if the chances of your work getting destroyed is so high? I guess I just don't get the mindset of either person. As you say, if I wanted to build a big structure or something so creative, I'd just make a private server.
@@ChronicNOTAG Why start a business if it might go bankrupt? It’s less of the actual thing existing and more of the fun of building it.
@@ChronicNOTAG maybe the base inevitably being destroyed one day added to the fun of having built it at all
@@hel2727 this
@@ChronicNOTAG Builds are made on 2B2Ts of making milestones of not getting destroyed for certain period of time. The spawn mason structure was made with bots to accomplish something that will remain for years:A gigantic structure that would grab everyone's attention and respect. There would be no reason for it to be done on a private server as who's gonna see it? I dont know how to explain this but 2B2T was the reason all these builds were made. From what I know, they definitely wouldnt make it so that it gets destroyed by griefers.
My guess is the base was already being abandoned. They have moved onto a new base much further from spawn with much more attention to detail and keeping the base safe. That's why the base was left undefended despite it taking 30 hours to grief.
The test server base took 30 hours to grief because it was a 1-man job. it wasn't protected because it was just the test server
you cant defend a base from being blown up
Pretty sure the non-test server base was being defended.... The test server no one really used so that probably didn't expect it to be griefed
Seriously a spectacular build. I have to commend the griefing teams too. It's interesting how they took serious measures to prevent leakage inside but forgot or neglected arbitrary ways random players could find it and not make sure every member understood risks. Either way, amazing dedication.
That base was something to see in person.
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@@SyndicateNA erp
@@maksitaxi ;3
@@SyndicateNA AwA
@@SyndicateNA GO AWAYYY
They need to have bot choose the initial base coordinates and then make every builder build through proxies. That way literally no one would know the coords.
Get a Baritone bot to pick a random location far from spawn and literally noone would know. Not even the owners xD
@@oblivion_2852 ever heard of a chunk trail?
That's what I thought was going to be the case when initially hearing that no one knew the co-ordinates. The main issues they'd have to have an initial clean up tnt duper thing completely automated, which would be very hard indeed.
@@Roescoe maybe a couple of trusted players could do the initial cleanup via proxy
How do you do that? the issue is that in order to do the cleanup you need to know the specifics of the lava and certain terrain patterns.
You know things are legendary when Storm Surge comes back
This reminds me of a lesson in cybersecurity I once had where the lecturer explained that no matter how secure and impenetrable your defences are, the weakest link will always be the humans that are in charge of those defences.
The fact that there are entire groups just about griefing makes me laugh.
Imagine being such an unlikable person that not only do you enjoy destroying the hard work of others, you *organize* it.
2b2t wouldnt be 2b2t without griefers
Look as much as I hate them for destroying my base there's NO POINT for 2b2t if they never existed
Making a name of yourself through infamy is just as cool as through good. At the end of the day both are a waste of time on a block game, but still. It’s not evil it’s just what people enjoy to do
2b2t is an anarchy server griefing is its main thing
This is how Cartels works
The fact that Storm joined in on the griefing is pretty insane
maybe it's just a ploy to ascend the ranks of The Fifth Column and destroy it from within
For real. I watched him early on and still am subbed to this day. He helped bring down a p2w server earlier this year with some others. Actual Legend.
fr hearing that name unlocked some core memories I completely forgot about
Yeah when he said "Team Avolition" it took me back a decade to when I was an active fan of theirs. I have no idea if Avo is still a thing at this point, or if life responsibilities and such have split the team.
@@shawntco last time I checked most of the guys (not storm) were streaming gta v online
Im 50% certain that there is a base somewhere thats like 10 years old and nobody has found it yet.
I'm 100% certain there is one. There's no way there isn't with a world as big as minecrafts.
There likely is but its definitely not active or it would have been found by some exploit or leak.
@@nafinbong9222 depends on the type of exploit. im pretty sure nocom wouldnt ping chunks that far out
@@ItIsJan It would track players moving over there through. So if you had your friend travel outwards, there you go
@@wernerderchamp you could use the 1.12 enerpearl teleportation exploit
the base was built so close to spawn because spawn masons
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YOOOO MLG GAMINGGG
Best way to protect your base: Play alone and don't trust anyone. Although it becomes almost like singleplayer then. I did something like this a while ago on 2B2T, travelled over a million blocks away from spawn and set up a base. After almost a year, my base still hasn't been found by anyone.
The best way to protect a base is to have better people in general. You need to be a certain kind of spiteful and jealous pillock to actually want to grief other person's creation. It's like the US meddling in the Middle East, China screwing over its people and Putin masturbating over Ukraine. And the fun part is should something catastrophic happen on this planet I'm more afraid of the people than the catastrophe to be honest because death comes anyway and it's at least impersonal.
What are the coords. I wanna check it out
then why not just play singleplayer?
@@lieutenanteclipse9975 because u can refill on ur base and then go to spawn?
@@blight1636bruh
I’m a total noob of Minecraft to the point where at the 7 minute mark I realized the avatar you were using was actually you instead of B-roll 🤦♂️ I love this video. For the first time in all the years since Minecraft has been out, you gave me an understanding that it’s a bunch of people coming together on one infinite map. Sounds so cool, I think I’ll check Minecraft out now :) btw a lot of terms, made no sense to me. Like b2bt, hopefully I can look back at this video when I’m more experienced and appreciate it a lot more when I know better
2b2t (abbreviation of 2 builders 2 tools) is simply the name of the server he was playing on. just a heads up, this is not the typical minecraft server, its an anarchy server where there are pretty much no rules, hacking and exploting are expected and lets just say the chat is "an experience".
It is not one map. It is one server in the video. Most people play on their own in there own servers.
It’s been a year since I posted this and have not played Minecraft once. Safe to say I probably won’t play it again
"OMG I just blew up this guys work I’m so cool"
pretty much 😂 im so cool for that tbh
100% those griefer guys are reddit/4chan neckbeards that never touched grass
@@user-10021 umad 🤣
the guys who got their base griefed were protecting a known pedophile, just saying
@@user-10021 they are actually people who hate child groomers the whole reason it was leaked was because all the spawnmasons defended and supported child grooming
I would really like to see someone try something like this again, that is further from spawn and with no chunk trails. Wonder how long it could survive...
Wow, the bots are strong today. Can't wait for them to get banned for impersonation.
Once the server actually updates, it will leave behind chunk trails again
so many complex systems for defense, but in the end it was simple mistakes that doomed them.
My jaw dropped when you said that Storm Surge was brought on to grief it. I can't believe AVO's still around doin' their same ol' schtick
I know this guy is friends with FitMC but Sal's videos are so much better in every way. There's just some sort of touch that Sal puts in these that make them great. Wish he'd upload more but that would probably conflict with his process.
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I would love to know the reason the insider leaked the base coords, my mind goes to the worst places for what those members could have done for the insider to make that decision
They were recorded admitting to being pedophiles, trying to justify themselves
Honestly, it likely WAS something like that, as I'm sure the insider also built at the base, which means he choose to destroy all the effort he put into building the place. To be willing to destroy something you put many real life days into, you must have a good reason.
Yeah it was likely one of those really bad things and if so, good on the leaker. The balls to not only ruin hundreds to thousands of hours of your own work but to also risk angering such a powerful group to stand up for what is morally right.
So these dudes murder a baby or something?
Pedophilia/child grooming/just inappropriate behaviour around underage members
I love all these 2b2t videos, i find it absolutely fascinating that something so anarchic exists. But one question I've had for a while: if the stuff was griefed info oblivion or something doesn't exist anymore, where do you get such great footage of these builds for your video?
Most of the footage I believe is from prior world downloads by the members.
I use world downloads for all the b-roll.
@@SalC1 How come people don't use world downloads to find bases, or they do?
@@joshuadalton6063 Because world downloads are huge and no one will have the capability (at least at home) to download the whole server and other methods to find bases are easier than downloading a certain part of the world. But there is a huge spawn area world, i think Fit made a video about it and it's a goldmine for grifers
@@joshuadalton6063because Minecraft is almost 8x the size of earth. In order to take a world download, you have to load the chunks
It's really insane build it's like finding the needle in haystack
People on 2b2t who make bases like this have balls of steel. Hundreds of hours go into these bases, and they are built in a server where everybody wants to just destroy.
@@unknowndev392 It still takes a massive amount of effort though. The bots aren't magic "click one button for cool megabase" you still need to do a lot of setup and desing. Plus there was definitely a bunch of handbuilt stuff there.
so dumb how people want to just destroy what others put hours into making, plus it just looks so sick they must get enjoyment out of it or something
@@schqrr hilarious to me how these griefers organize official groups like what they're doing isn't incredibly stupid and childish
the fact that there are dedicated "griefing groups" giving themselves names and all, makes me question humanity all over again
It’s a block game chill
if ur gonna get mad at griefing groups why even play or watch 2b2t content? thats the whole point
@@yayayayayaya8140 i do not play on smps, because i do not enjoy either griefing, nor getting griefed. also i didnt say i was mad, people may enjoy whatever they like, doesnt bother me. and for the watching part, i can watch whatever i like, what the hell ? why cant i inform myself about stuff without... consuming it ?
the only thing my comment shall reflect is my misunderstanding of the joy derived from griefing other players. thats just beyond me, but again, if people enjoy it, all power to them.
@@s0resucks don't back down. you said nothing wrong. people just want to rationalize their bad behaviour
@@911WASanINSIDEjob420 How is it bad behavior? Builders know they're on an anarchy server. If they didn't want their things to be targeted, they wouldn't play on such a server. Half the fun of building on an anarchy server is knowing someone can destroy it at any point - seeing how long your build can last.
Back at it again with 2b content man
The dedication they have to both griefing and preventing bases from getting griefed...
Shut up, bot
It took me a min to realise what ”unfindale” meant lol
It's crazy to think that somewhere out there in 2b2t there is just a massive base that will never be found because those people just built like 3mil blocks from spawn and covered their tracks and just don't tell anyone about it.
Awesome base to be a guest of, wish I got to build more there.
it's insane that those such interesting and exiting stories exit due to a block game. no other game have those as far as I know..
good video as usual!
The fact you can find a base just by the ROTATION OF THE BLOCKS is insane. 2b2t players are a different breed, or maybe I’m just a noob.
Storm Surge joining in on the grief is akin to David Brent's cameo on The Office USA.
Loved that Hollow Knight music at the beginning! Makes me want to go back and finish it
you should, banger game
Hearing the name "Storm Surge" involved with Minecraft Griefing was a blast from the past.
That's insane, i never thought they would find the unfindale base
dude i don't even play on 2b2t and even my base is more than a million blocks out lmfao, can't believe how close theirs was to spawn
great video :)
They're called the SPAWNmasons for a reason I guess. 😂
@@SalC1 lmao true
@@kurtisvandermiller4507 cap, minecraft worlds only go 30 million blocks out
i think if you have a proxy like this, its not too hard to modify it to work with multiple accounts on 2b, so everything you build is built on multiple locations at the same time
You could record every action taken through the proxy, and then replay the entire construction via bots later too maybe?
grieving is what makes this server memorable. only ppl who were their to see these bases and experience it have a story to tell that others can’t
6:04 That's the Tomb of Raithwall music from Final Fantasy 12, very nice choice!
I was looking if someone else noticed😂 best game ever made
THE KING HAS RETURNED
STORM SURGE????? Please, please let there be a Team Avolition upload. A Team Avolition video delivering griefing-style justice would be so nostalgic
Me having two tests tomorrow:yea what a good way to spend my time.
I respect you so much for putting "attack on tarir" from gw2 in your videos, your like one of the only people who uses guild wars 2 music and I respect the hell out of it!
I love hearing hollow knight music in completely unrelated videos hollow knight music is so good it reached the ranks of “IDK what that game is but I’m gonna use it’s music”
i still sometimes get blown away by what people build on 2b2t its just so incredible damn
I'm glad there's someone making these kind of 2b2t videos without saying "the oldest anarchy server in minecraft" every 2 minutes. Great video
Really liking the attac on tarir theme from gw2 at 7:20
The engineers who set up the proxy thought of everything. I'm amazed. Great work programming it as well.
Perhaps not quite. At that distance you may be able to measure the imperfections of floating point numbers to figure out where you are. Circumventing this would require re-writing the code of the client completely to obfuscate the actual position of the player. Doable, and not really all that difficult, but I'd be surprised if they actually did it.
ngl this is the first video of salc1 ive ever watched and when the vid started i was expecting to hear fit lmao still a great vid
How Griefers on 2b2t feel like "Im gonna rip you apart." finding out it was a friends base "I want to apologize."
Finally a video. I can finally get updated again
Despite all means of jamming a person's instruments in preventing it to be found, they still couldn't jam the most important part, the human eyes, which well is funny, to say the least, and the classic betrayal in 2b2t.
I came here after seeing the Team AVO vid, crazy to see Storm_Surge join in on this. Maximum nostalgia
i always find these videos so entertaining and funny because its crazy to me how huge the minecraft community is lmaooo
here i am thinking playing solo on survival is cool, and then there are ppl like this with whole ass lore LMAOO
i love it
your security is only as strong as its weakest link,which most of the case is human
Always letting anything aside when you download something.
So thanks!
I wonder if it would be possible to essentially have a single player control two proxy accounts from the proxy server at the same time
That way they'd be building the same base in two different locations on 2b2t
That's actually a good idea! But you would have to think about some edge cases, for example if a mob is there, it would be just at one base. Or if something gets griefed or destroyed by flame, explosion or other random situations that cause the bases to be out of sync
@@whythosenames Yeah, you'd also basically need the near exact starting environment and starting resources to prevent issues
Maybe having some of those baritone ai / bot accounts to farm stuff and keep monitor of stock would help with that resource issue to prevent it from ever coming out of sync
Could also be used to interact with mobs for the gathering of resources such as wool from sheep, however the players on the proxy server just wouldn't be able to
this is why physical security is just as important as every other security component in a network
The situation at 2b2t is similar to the novel The Three-Body Problem, when the moment your civilization's coordination is leaked, you are doomed.
Appreciate u mentioning the dark forest theory. The thought never crossed my mind and the similarities are insane, 2b2t is practically a dark forest universe.
7:00 Is this referring to the inside job in your new video?
Absolutely love use of Hollow Knight ost. Recognized it immediately
This proxy tech could be useful for so many bases.
tbh, the thing about slimes doesnt seem that great, someone could probably still get knockbacked or damaged by slimes which could eventually reveal slime chunks
@@AnEnderNon can have a bot hunting the slimes or something similar
@@zhell true, wot if the bot gets dced tho
@@AnEnderNon have 2 bots ;)
how the unfindable base on 2B2T was found:
"People found it"
Hearing "Storm_Surge" actually gave me goosebumps. Such a nostalgic channel.
They just released the video of the base grief too
I don't understand griefers
me neither so dumb how people want to just destroy what others put hours into making, plus it just looks so sick they must get enjoyment out of it or something
I suggest ask jared2013.
It's like post nut clarity to them.
It gets them aroused
If youre worried about griefers then 2b2t isnt the server for you.
The part where you said AVO was at the grief hit me like a truck, what year is it
The biggest known base for now , i wonder what else is out there...
Kinda shows that Hermetilock's plan to finally end the Spawn Masons unfortunately failed. He was the original founder with his buddy D_Loaded but just got so sick of all the Minecraft fanatics that had flooded the Masons that he wanted to end them for good by destroying their last known base, Donfeur 18. The Masons' ideologies of Minecraft haven't changed it would seem, using a proxy to fully disguise their base as somewhere else, sheesh, in the words of FitMc, "It's just a block game!".
I'm honestly more interested in what the irl influence was that cause someone to turn like that
Boredom
I can imagine if the base never existed on the server
It would be mind boggling if the REAL skymason base was millions of blocks away from spawn, and the base that was found was just a decoy
Hollow knight music hits hard🔥🔥🔥
My base is impossible to stop since it's a replica of the normal minecraft world, people often walk on it but doesnt realize it's my base
2b2t is the community that will make anything impossible, possible
i still don’t understand how griefing is fun to people
Biggest plot twist: it was a fake decoy sky mason base and the real one still exists somewhere
I'm in Network Admin in college, and we were taught that basically 9/10 it's the users/humans that causes security issues, not the actual systems
your channel is the go-to place for reliable info!
Dude I swear these 2b2t players can make a program powerful enough to pose as an international security risk and then use that program to "haha exploit child block game"
For real. It’s crazy how seriously they take it lol. They can definitely use their skills elsewhere given the amount of effort and skill they put in.
what was that rl drama that led to the leaking of the base?
Child grooming
child grooming/ sexual abuse
10:22 and i wouldnt be surprised if they are working on a new one with all those prerequisites xD
BABE WAKE UP NEW SALC1 POST
god I love 2b2t base vids. They're like true crime stories mixed with dark web mysteries
Imagine how the members must've felt logging on and seeing their base gone
the whiplash from the mention of “storm_surge” goddamn
1:22 engineer gaming
the fact that team avolition and the fifth column took them so long it just show how big the base was
Honestly the tech behind this was, as you said, pure genius. And it almost worked, only reason it didn't was cus of messy handling and foul play. So really, as far as we know the system's still full proof! Well, nothing's full proof, and griefers always find a but. But still, randomizing and changing everything down to bedrock patterns and block rotations is awesome. They clearly thought through everything they could. Are clouds disabled too? In all of the pre-leak footage I saw there were no clouds, and they can be used to reverse engineer coordinates sometimes too.
Why do people grief?? It was such a nice base I just don't understand why you would grief that
To answer your question in general: Why? Because it's fun as hell and the kick is well worth it.
What better a way to assert conquest or triumph?
What better way to punish child groomers then to ruin what they protect so dearly almost as much as they defend grooming
ihop
Yeah, I don’t get it either personally.