Michael Jacksons Recording Secrets
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In todays video I go over michael jacksons recording studio/ recording secrets. I go over how engineer bruce swedien recorded michael and his band using a variety of stereo miking techniques. If you are intersted in michael jackson in the studio footage and studio footage watch this video. I go over michael jacksons vocal chain and some of the outboard gear combos him and bruce used.
I suspect you could have recorded Michael Jackson with a toy microphone, and he would still have managed to become the King of Pop.
Even Bruce said this himself. He said Michael was unique in the fact that he new how to work a microphone well and his voice was already amazing … so putting his mic on your voice isn’t gonna make magic happen 😂
haha, true
@@messybuttons7525 I heard MJ waved his head around so much while singing that they had to come up with ways of compensating for his weird behaviour.
@@onesong2001 Maybe. But I dont think so. Bruce Swedien has gone on record many times saying Michael's voice was easy to record because he knew how to work a mic properly. He'd been doing it since 6 years old.
Bruce did mention he had a setup just to record his dancing, snapping, and clapping when he sang. It bled into the mix and gave the songs more long (really apparent in billie jean)
I mean if you know what you doing or the sound that you want to acquire anything is possible bro with this music shit it’s crazy !
I like how Bruce loves EQ more than compression. Most newbies don’t know how to use compression correctly. But you can be taught how to eq without ruining a instruments sound. Most of the time. Lol. Bruce was a real one. Good engineer so to speak.
so what happened with MJ is, he was born in an era with perfect ears and vocals and had an obsession with music and manged to get the best ever engineer and best ever producer, composer quincy and they all made masterpieces. its no wonder when i listen to MJs albums they all sound amazing even the songs i dont particularly like, there's nothing wrong with the sound or production!
Exactly, perfect description
"...he was born in an era with perfect ears and vocals..."
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Bruce is a legend, but he was more of a workhorse. They would spend years in the studio for a single album. you better find a way to make things sound good lol.
@@Jaburu...Thriller was made in 8 weeks ....
@@onesong2001 nah he right autotune and pitch correction in mixixng came later in 2007 so to sing liike that without sllight pitch correction is pure talen bro so yes perfect singers
MJ was the Bruce Lee of recording artists.
Guess that makes Prince the Jackie Chan .
@@ericanderson7059jakie looks up to Bruce
@@ericanderson7059good one
Bruce's and MJs working partnership was legendary. From 1978 til MJ died in 2009. 30 years. Deep respect and love. Bruce even became co-producer on some of MJs recordings. I've noticed MJs engineers all talk about MJ with the highest respect and much much love. And my guess is they spent the most time with him. Their tales of MJ are always real, mostly funny, the best reflection of the man. Certainly better than the media portrayal...
With you
One important note about the Shure SM7 is that it is NOT the same SM7B microphone you see so many modern producers, podcasters etcetera use. The SM7 mentioned in this video is the "original" version.
Such a big difference
Hence the B! Never even thought about that
It still is very similar, and both SM7 are variations of the SM57 without a transformer inside. Therefore the off-axis rejection is tremendous and the level of self noise extremely low for a microphone able to sustain this kind of SPL from his most powerful performances. The SM7B really is virtually the same microphone as far as I know, and none of those are particularly high-end nor do they have any particular coloration really. It was used for practical reasons. The only downside of this kind of microphone is the kind of gain you need : you will not be able to feed it enough gain with a regular USB powered interface.
I find the SM7B distorts the sibilance. Maybe because people aren't powering it properly
Exactly. And they sound very different
2 important things to note. Michael could really fuckin sing and Bruce could really fuckin engineer
Facts!!
Michael marketed like no other
Slap a compressor and a limiter on your own vocal dude.. way too dynamic!!
Just decades of unparalleled genius...
His voice was natural whithout autotune he was king ❤
anyone using autotune should not be categorized as a singer. bullshit plugins are for children. it became a 'rapper' effect because rap needs effect to lull market into buying garbage.
His voice was thin and tinny.
He still is, he'll stay the king forever
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777michael literally used auto tune in his later years get smart please.
@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777plus michael worked with many rappers. get smart u r3t4rd
I really appreciate how your videos emphasize the philosophy of engineering
Likewiseee frrr.
Michael took his craft seriously and always had the best musicians, writers and engineers to give us the fans the best music possible. Respect to all the legends behind Michael 🙏🏾 ❤
This is the first video I’ve ever seen about Michael Jackson gear and for that you have my eternal thanks this is automatically awesome
The "choir technique" is M/S. I used this once recording a live session in a long but narrow room with everything bleeding into the drum mics and placed overheads in M/S (vocals and keys) in order to minimize faze issues but still have good stereo. X/Y I use almost always on drums to get a nice wide mix.
Bruce Swedien is All Time Greatest engineer.
I'm pretty sure Quincy Jones had all the recording secrets
I am sound technician and the recording space doesn’t matter to me. With the right technique you can record anywhere and you won’t tell the difference from a real or home studio. Knowledge is the key.
😂 ' real or home studio' so why do you even differentiate them in your rhetoric? 'won't' or 'can't' your grammar is hilarious as well you should be a stand up .
Yes, but one of the most used techniques at the time of recording on 2-inch tape was natural compression, which was achieved by injecting a signal with more volume into the recorder.
not really, if you try to use hos techniques in a bad space it will not work the same way
Ill take MJ and his team bro
Of course it matters ,I personally wouldn't care as I don't like perfect music but there's no way you can get the overproduced MJ stuff in any room
Brilliant dude.
I did a lot of these stereo techniques in film audio recording. Most productions thought I was crazy, until they heard what I’d turn in.
your voiceover could have used some level balancing with the videos and some compression....just sayin
MJ and Bruce are both legends ❤
They were both scientists when it came to recording music.
The title should be Bruce Swedien's recording secrets.
and i likely would not have clicked great introduction to the man you mention
Wow, “the way you make me feel” was an old school SM7, huh? That’s really interesting but it makes total sense. Gear is one thing and picking the right gear is occasionally *very* important but there are a few major takeaways here. Above everything, these guys worked at getting top notch performances from world class musicians…the importance getting an inspired performance worthy of documenting can’t be overstated. Secondly, their recording techniques and engineering skill levels were off the charts. If you want anything approaching this, you need to become absolutely immersed in the world of audio engineering. Something as simple as gain staging is often overlooked but it can make or break the performance of your dreams.
Please do some levelmatching, some of the clips are very quiet while others loud.
bro. are yo
Ironic that you've made a video about recording secrets (a good one albeit), and your own video's audio seems to lack normalization.
for a video about sound production about the greats, YOUR AUDIO LEVELS ARE ALL OVER THE GOD DAMN PLACE IN THIS VIDEO! I keep have to adjusting the volume, damn this is really frustrating my watching experience
Entitled spoilt brat!
Why you were talking about audio levels, you might want to consider getting your own audio level, more loud and clear
This video is enlightening, thanks a lot to share.
Excellent video. It would be interesting to compare these recording techniques to what he was using as a kid with the Jackson 5 recording for Motown; plus the recording techniques used for their one album with Gamble & Huff.
love the information Bruce shared about the early reflections. i thought the exact same thing, its often the "dirty" recorded songs that are the most interesting
This videos incredible. Thanks a million for sharing this man!
MJ's music was always a level above his peers in terms of the depth of the sounds. So immersive and dynamic. I think that's why it's aged so well.
BS
@@onesong2001 bro has a wole page hatibg on mj get a life bro
@@StevenHombessa He’s on Videos where MJ isn’t even mentioned hating on him on some weird shit bro
Wow, loads of the stuff this guy did for recording and techniques I taught myself by feel to do pretty much the same way with my band's music! The only things I have not tried that this video gave me an idea to try out is the wooden foam coated board to isolate the snare microphone from the hi hat to minimise bleed, great idea!! Same with the kick bass drum isolation and such. I must try that out!
every millennium kid knows this crap now, no more secret BS, grab the same stuff in native plugins with UAD or softube and your set, no room acoustic flaws involved
Yeah, would be great to be born back when all of this was just starting. Back when you could get an internship at a studio instead of having to know someone, or paying to build a studio yourself.
I am fortunate enough to have acquired the 4-way Ashly crossovers that MJ had in his home studio monitoring system. Two of them are sequential in serial number and have the warranty paperwork still. What really isn't mentioned, is much is how much effort they put into just his monitoring system. A 4-way crossover is unheard of these days, and an analog one from the 90's was crazy, but not out of hand. Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it. When I first started doing sound, a 3-way crossover was semi common still, I didn't even know a 4-way existed until I got a hold of MJ's.
Oh
This is such a great documentary! To be a fly on the wall in one of those sessions
This is Golden stuff! Thanks. Just awesome tidbit, love the idea of using the room sound in everything and avoiding compression. Got me interested in finding out more about Bruce's work..
My favourite recording engineer - you did great Bruce !
This is some good info. Makes me wanna look more in depth into my own own sound equipment. Big ups
it was the sm7 that made thriller great, not michaels outstanding voice, performance and energy or bruces mixing or quincys producing
Yes, and EVH provided emotional support 😂
NO - only the preamp matters
As a matter of fact. It was a combination of all those different elemets you've posted in your comment
😂😂
@@BrendanMiranda The sm7 is of no use to you if you don't have an excellent singer and performer like Michael, a good sound engineer like Bruce and one of the best producers in history, Quincy Jones.
Always love some MJ content on the channel!
Super dope. Thanks for uploading.
Omg when he started singing
🥺❤❤❤❤
Even without any instrument, the magic is here in his voice, in its beauty and intensity... Michael was incredible ! He was gorgeous, his soul was wonderful, his voice was exceptionally beautiful, the way he sang was unique, the way he danced was supernatural, he was a gift for our world, but too good for it
@@elodie2404 interesting bit, he did have instruments, finger snaps and stomps. Incredible.
George doing all the research so I don’t have to. My man!
Thanks!
It was an awesome video and thank you for sharing, but I'd love to get my hands on the original full length video(s) and watch those too !! :-)
Wow he was a great producer❤❤❤
Can we stop and talk about this goatee MJ is rocking at 11:00 min in?
BRUCE SWEDIEN GOATED ENGINEER
The sound level of the dialog in this video varies so much as to be very difficult to listen to.
The editing / merging of sentences sucks too, sorry... (had to stop the video for how annoying it was)
2024 sign of the times. The content is what's valuable. Sheesh.
Wow is that Dave Pensado now ? Man someone introduce him to David Sinclair!
...Dave Pensado ...
hes lost weight!!
Yeah he looks sicker and older every year. Don’t know what’s going on with him but I hope he’s ok.
We need a bag that can carry hundreds of Mics..and know when to use it
8:03 PERFECT Street Fighter
In other words we were deceived it wasn't Michael Jackson's real voice
It was just a voice altering mic
co za szmira, nic nie wnosi, to co było nagrywane w tamtych czasach ma sie nijak do dziś, jak by Michael nagrywał dziś to pewnie użył by całkowicie czego innego
Amazing video, especially for engineers
Amazing! I respect the true old analog sound engineers... genius
He’s really a musical genius
🤣
In one of the videos they showed it said September 26th 1993. Today is September 26th 2023. Wow!! Thirty years later on today.
important thing is that they used SM7 mic not SM7B, here is why:
ruclips.net/video/56ASws38Hxw/видео.html
Thanx for your clarification, Bro. School these So Called “Sonic Wizard’s”
THANK GOD YOU'RE BACK
Yea two weeks turned into a month unfortunately
Keep up the good videos man!
great video. I learned some things. But please please please -- stop cutting out space in the narration. whatever that style of narration is it is terrible to listen to. I watched the video despite it, but dang. why are we doing that??
You’re channel is fantastic
bruce mom and dad is from my small villige in sweden stöde ive have meet bruce
Sounds like this guy did a lot of the work I assumed Quincy Jones did and got credit for...
Quincy's true gift was assembling the Avengers in the studio. When he had a song idea he knew exactly who to call to get the job done.
@@willieboyland3180yeah Quincy a producer mainly
grew up in the midst of his greatest works, in sheer awe and amazement.
Bruce taught us - up and coming engineers - to not mix the life out of a record
but to transfer as much of its essence and emotion, to the listener, as possible.
He was and forever will be an engineering God.
Thank you so much for this great video and would you be so kind to like and follow. Co' 🙏🏽
the dynamics and tone of the different audio is all off
jeez...impressive
funny how absolutely terribly this video's audio is mixed - volume levels wildly variable, cut to cut.
Bruce was a master and he deserves a ton of credit, MJ was drawn to Bruce's talent and they both prospered because of it. If you see when they're working on Jam, Bruce had recorded like 20 different approaches to the chorus that Michael had to choose from, all subtly different but TWENTY!! This was just one small part and then multiply that by 30 years.
Saudoso Bruce, companheiro de longas datas do
MICHAEL..
SOOOOOOOOOO DOPE!
Mann Michaels voice is natural auto tune
Это видео просто шедевр! Я уже несколько раз смотрю его без усталости. Я помню те времена, когда ходили разного рода слухи , что Майкл Джэксон пишет музыку не так как остальные. Что у него самая крутая аппаратура. Но у него, оказывается, еще был звукорежиссер-волшебник.
Wish prince would have better sounding music i imagine because hes a maniac and wants to control everything
Love how a video on mixing is so poorly mixed in the most basic way. I think you need to rewatch the course on mixing that you’re selling.
I find it weird that your video is about recording techniques while your own voice out sounds like it's not recorded well. There is background noise. The dynamics aren't great either. You should record in a quiet area, use noise removal software when mixing, use some EQ to fix clarity and then some compression to even out the sound. You can even use side-chain compression to push down the music a tad to let your voice over have space.
Nowadays many are so called engineers . Genius at work
I will forever be in love with Michael. Forever.
The Greatest of All Time
Very interesting but the mix of this video could be better. Voices are not well balanced...
"Compression is for kids. I hate compression. I'm a NUT about not using compression."
How did you get around the Copyright issue for this video?
That's what you get when true masters sit at the same table
The guy who can't edit a horribly recorded vo is telling us that our rooms (and therefore our mixes) suck.
Cool.
You’re on RUclips watching videos for advice I’m dead go fix ur room bud
So much learning in this short video needed more
Why the eerie tone to the video? Lol cool info though.
now this is the reason for yotube to exist 😊
good video
4:09 where is this footage from? would like to watch the whole lecture
u have to type " bruce swedien conference or something " on school its on youtube
Shame. Dave is not looking good. Hope hes ok
Bruce Sweden’s recording secrets applied by Michael Jackson should be the title
Ç DOMMAGE QU'IL N'Y EST PAS de SOUS TITRAGE EN FRANÇAIS 😢.
Good content but horrible voice and way of talking 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Excellent video 👍🏾
Glad you enjoyed it
Was Bruce a protogee of Quincy Jones or no connection at all. ? OK @10:00 - Quincy is discussed.. :) I never really looked into his work - he's got very similar ethics and approach to my own. You know the guy could capture a record with very few pieces of gear and get amazing results. Less is more is always a great approach and needed in 2023... oh and more analog all this digital is giving me a headache.
amor mío mi niño mi hombre detrás del teclado que tanto amo y extraño Vuelve ven conmigo llévame contigo ven por mi pronto nos amamos mucho y merecemos ser felices son 9 años que no se pueden tirar por la borda así no más. Mucho tiempo sin que te comuniques conmigo por la via que sea eso es cruel y sin darme una explicación así sea dolorosa. Yo te amo no necesito nada solo estar juntos para casarnos y vivir felices hasta que la muerte nos separe. Yo te espero el tiempo que sea necesario pero no me abandones no me dejes no te vallas de mi luchemos por nuestro amor por nosotros por nuestros sueños juntos yo trabajaré para ayudarte y nos casamos con bienes separados para que no hayan problemas. Comunícate conmigo por favor amor nos amamos somos llamas gemelas. Quiero a mi hombre detrás del teclado que conocí en el 2014 conmigo juntos por siempre. Amén
I appreciate you so much bro
i used to be huge MJ fan ,but i don't follow his works any more ,i can't enjoy his songs any more ,i can not support his behavior any more and i can't defend him against comin allegations any more too.
I can't even remember all the many times when, in my little home studio, I pulled out a half dozen Neuman U87 microphones to mic the drums. I mean, who *doesn't* do that? 😜
very good video thanks!!