Michael Jacksons Studio Secrets

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  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast Год назад +106

    Bruce was an incredible engineer. Michael Jackson was insanely talented and on top of that, he surrounded himself with men of genius like Bruce.

  • @abracaroguearcane1484
    @abracaroguearcane1484 Год назад +44

    CRAZY ENGINEER ! He took It as far as he could ! Which is so f impressive, all the mics variations ect. He dedicated his whole life for that knowledge you can feel. Respectable.

  • @digitaldesigner5284
    @digitaldesigner5284 Год назад +33

    Mr Bruce Swedien is one of the greatest sound engineers of all time.

  • @lordcron
    @lordcron Год назад +9

    He made history with Mike. His knowledge of studio work can't be matched.

  • @lebcaleb8692
    @lebcaleb8692 Год назад +53

    He passed away some years ago bro. You didn't mention it. Such a great engineer.

  • @greensleeves32
    @greensleeves32 Год назад +24

    I appreciate this video, and love Bruce. Such a legend. That said, learning compression is right next to EQ as the most important thing you can learn to hear and utilize in mixing and music production. And obviously in live sound too. Controlling the transients and knowing when (and when not) to do things is the key

  • @bassinblue
    @bassinblue Год назад +12

    Times have changed a LOT. Especially mixing and mastering in the box. With parallel compression and the crazy detailed automation that's possible today, you can glue your track, while recovering the transients.

  • @Barncore
    @Barncore Год назад +201

    Avoiding compression is all well and good when you're going through a beautiful console and tape machine, you get that euphonic glue through those anyway. His "compression is for kids" statement doesn't really apply to the modern era studio setup imo

    • @jeremyformerlyknownastoken8218
      @jeremyformerlyknownastoken8218 Год назад +4

      Just depends on the song

    • @somedood6621
      @somedood6621 Год назад +24

      Use a subtle amount of tape emulation instead. Transients is what makes people dance! If it made Michael Jackson dance it's definitely good enough for anyone else lol

    • @strangerbeats___
      @strangerbeats___ Год назад

      @user-cs6f7dd6w distance to the micro

    • @strangerbeats___
      @strangerbeats___ Год назад +1

      ?

    • @Geeztown
      @Geeztown Год назад +15

      Just listen to "Bad", or "Invincible" even, then compare it to the stuff released after he passed on "Michael", "Xscape", or any of the remasters. Totally different sound. Especially the vocals. Much more realism that compression destroys. It takes skill, but also takes guts not to listen to certain people that always want the vocal louder and louder until you have no choice but to compress it to death to make it that loud. Also takes a great consistent singer for that to work.

  • @EricBlair-jg2ux
    @EricBlair-jg2ux Год назад +18

    He's coming from the analog world, recording to the best multi track Reel to Reels and going through analog desks, it is much more forgiving and when hit hard saturate and tame transients in a pleasing manner . In todays world of digital DAWs it is a lot less forgiving and raw transients can sound harsh and lifeless.

  • @TitusAndronicusTheBand
    @TitusAndronicusTheBand Год назад +1

    You gotta love how as soon as he says “the personality of the music is in the transience” (~3:53) he’s interrupted by that horrible cell phone interference noise

  • @krnflks
    @krnflks Год назад +9

    So you push the levels when recording to tape, which pushes the peaks up against the max volume the medium can support and it squashes the peaks. Sure you get sweet analog distortion and drive some of the less audible sounds in the recording, but you're basically still compressing/limiting.

    • @Geeztown
      @Geeztown Год назад +2

      Read Bruce's books. He went to great lengths to preserve transients on tape and created a whole system for it. He wasn't using tape saturation, he was avoiding it.

    • @Oliver-ty7xu
      @Oliver-ty7xu 11 месяцев назад

      The idea that people used "tape compression" as a tool back then is really misunderstood. Sure maybe a few records were cut really hot but most engineers tried to avoid distortion as much as possible. The idea that you should overdrive tape is a modern thing.

    • @krnflks
      @krnflks 11 месяцев назад

      @@Oliver-ty7xu I guess the Sun Sessions were just really ahead of their time
      ruclips.net/video/TL0DzHsjaBY/видео.html

  • @AllenMichael
    @AllenMichael Год назад +7

    Digital recording sounds harsh…. Although it’s so easy to do stuff on it, I find im better off working on my 24 trk. Definition is outstanding on tape.

  • @breezyoakk
    @breezyoakk Год назад +3

    Bruce Swedien - In The Studio with Michael Jackson
    If you want to read more about Bruce's Philosophy and Equipment

  • @asleepydude5941
    @asleepydude5941 Год назад +24

    Bruce was a genius. A man of talent and amazing ears for sounds. Whenever I hear an MJ song, i always seem to hear just the smallest sounds that makes the song come together smoothly like butter. The GOAT

  • @nujaz
    @nujaz Год назад +8

    I have Always Hated compression!! And fought over many projects over compression!! Its possible to work without it and I agree with Bruce, it changes the character of the sound.

  • @prodbytytaan
    @prodbytytaan Год назад +15

    he keeps levelling up with every video he makes

  • @schance1666
    @schance1666 Год назад +10

    Great vid and some terrific tips! Love getting these insights. But eventhough Bruce didn't like compresion/limiters on music, you should definitely try some on your videos - the volume levels from clip to clip are sometimes pretty bad, (mainly, your narration is too low). I had to 'ride the fader' for it! Just a thought. Keep up the killer content!

  • @scottnelle
    @scottnelle Год назад +21

    3:49 - Back when speakers could predict an incoming call on a cell phone. What an era.

    • @FatherWave
      @FatherWave Год назад +6

      They still do

    • @Ali_Seraj
      @Ali_Seraj Год назад

      i reached out for my phone 🤣

  • @zachmcintire2189
    @zachmcintire2189 Год назад +6

    What nobody talks about is during the time of tape if not cassette 4 tracks … essentially compression is running the dials up and down.

  • @jaxclifton7492
    @jaxclifton7492 Год назад +4

    Hey George, you should make a video about how to have your speaker monitors setup and, certain engineers monitor steps. I know some have them horizontally and some don’t etc.

  • @Dane_Riazer
    @Dane_Riazer Год назад +4

    That is so true. If you take those transients out, it takes out the energy, was cool about today is we can do a lot of parallel processing lol. 😂

  • @simmermusic3894
    @simmermusic3894 Год назад +7

    I have two books by Bruce Swedien about recording, 1. The recording method and 2. In the studio with Michael Jackson. Highly recommended if you want to take a deep dive!

    • @georgetmusic
      @georgetmusic  Год назад +1

      Read booth unfortunately from what I could find they are not available online

    • @1939lb
      @1939lb Год назад +2

      I have the latter..it’s definitely a must have

    • @lartisan6274
      @lartisan6274 Год назад +2

      there is documentary about Bruce " sonic sound "

    • @Swimthenatator
      @Swimthenatator Год назад

      Pls send the PDFs to me

    • @simmermusic3894
      @simmermusic3894 Год назад

      Im not sure if they exist, I have physical copies@@Swimthenatator

  • @YFEmaxi
    @YFEmaxi Год назад +5

    U always come up with fyee videos its crazy bruh !! ❤

  • @joeyf808
    @joeyf808 Год назад +6

    Great Work George, Keep em coming!

  • @micro1603
    @micro1603 Год назад +3

    All-time top engineer!

  • @steveanimatrix3887
    @steveanimatrix3887 Год назад +49

    Michael didn't have any studio secrets. These are all Bruce's secrets.

    • @karukerabeats
      @karukerabeats Год назад +1

      Je suis musicien les chanteur impose leurs micro préférés 😊

    • @iamfemo
      @iamfemo Год назад +18

      I guess we wouldn't be here if the title was Bruce's studio secrets lol

    • @KevinConwell23
      @KevinConwell23 Год назад +4

      His secret was choosing the right producers and engineers

    • @lartisan6274
      @lartisan6274 Год назад +8

      Michael Jackson ' secret : rythm, snap, dance, in same time to sing. Michael started from the " Motown studio ", watched " Key of life " steevy wonder, and had a studio to him house " encino " , and had 50 % of Sony Mtv. So i think he knew what he wanted.

    • @5xjosee566
      @5xjosee566 Год назад +3

      yet bruce called michael the ultimate musician

  • @bobstaurovsky3506
    @bobstaurovsky3506 Год назад +6

    Great engineers still use analog boards and analog outboard equipment, it takes a maestro to make a great recording !!!

  • @tjrox
    @tjrox Год назад +4

    What would he think about today’s music where everything is compressed while recorded then compressed at mixdown and then again at mastering?

  • @alexandreprudent2870
    @alexandreprudent2870 Год назад +14

    Bruce is a legend 🙌
    highly recommend his books, humbling stuff.

  • @JulesMugisha
    @JulesMugisha Год назад +6

    Damn, with all the compressors I use. I feel personally attacked😂

  • @ElectronicMusicOpenMic
    @ElectronicMusicOpenMic Год назад +1

    I have to agree about compression @4:20

  • @LeiB
    @LeiB Год назад +1

    GRACIAS, thank you for spreading knowledge like this. I appreciate you and your contribution to art❤❤

  • @GgWhyfye
    @GgWhyfye Год назад +1

    Thank you for this one. Certified hood classic

  • @StrongEye
    @StrongEye Год назад

    Got to meet Bruce at AES in NYC. He was an amazing engineer that I practiced a lot of his techniques.

  • @ruderuda
    @ruderuda Год назад

    Great video, I loved reading Swedien's books, this goes well on the top of that.

  • @PickettMusic
    @PickettMusic Год назад

    The 're-amping' idea, to capitalize on room sound and warmth, really impacted us in the 90s.

  • @marcito12345
    @marcito12345 Год назад

    I know this is kind of off topic, but is there any chance you can reupload the josh gudwin tracking video? curious on how he uses the cl1b

  • @tritonecrisantemo649
    @tritonecrisantemo649 Год назад +2

    More videos on how to mix without compression.

  • @sabretooth717
    @sabretooth717 Год назад +2

    Damn Mike was smart enough to get the best

  • @tprs_ita
    @tprs_ita Год назад

    4:04 What a tag team finish!

  • @robertgibbs1308
    @robertgibbs1308 Год назад +1

    RIP to both! Good Research on this one.

  • @saintkevinofficial
    @saintkevinofficial Год назад

    Thank you so much for this! Just incredible!

  • @chandeleerjet5637
    @chandeleerjet5637 Год назад

    3:35 i almost unsubscribed but luckily you have a very useful channel. I did a paper on all this in high school and forgot almost all of this until now.

  • @nickjones3068
    @nickjones3068 Год назад

    Totally agree with him on transients.

  • @micbeatz1280
    @micbeatz1280 Год назад

    definetely would like to see more of this content

  • @themoregoodmusicstudio3294
    @themoregoodmusicstudio3294 15 дней назад

    4.03 Al talks to...great footage!

  • @RemyRAD
    @RemyRAD Год назад +1

    It's also very funny. Talking about, Re--Amping. The speakers he's using. The same, JBL 4311, control room monitor speakers. He actually used. For recording and mixing, Michael's greatest hits, originally. They are great sounding speakers. I had 6 pairs of them! All over my house and studio. In both locations. Can't live without those! I still like them better than lots of newer stuff. Newer stuff sounds cool, sure. These just sound so real and solid and fat and punchy. Everything you want in a speaker sound. No need to use anything else. Better is not necessarily, better. The same speakers also recorded and mixed, Earth Wind & Fire. And so many others. I've been using them since 1978, myself. I heard them in 1968. When they first came out. And I knew I would have to own a pair one day. Later I had 6 pairs. And similar bigger and smaller versions. They all sound fabulous. And I discovered. They are out of phase or rather out of polarity. To every other speaker manufacturer out there in the world. Why did they do it backwards? I figured that out in 1978, also. Try it on your own speakers. Reverse both connections on the left and right speakers. Take another listen. It's way different. You can do this with any speaker. And I realized why they did it. Everybody else makes a common mistake. They cannot think it through, properly. When you do it's very funny. And everybody ends up with dumbfounded looking egg on their face. When someone clues you in on this like I just have. It's very funny. It is tragically professionally, funny. Because everybody makes a mistake. And believes they are correct and can prove it! LMAO! No they really cannot. I get them every time.
    Once you've figured this out. It's a game changer. It changes everything. Your recording and mixing will go so much easier. You'll hear everything so much better. You won't need surround speakers. You will be surrounded from only 2 speakers. It's an amazing psycho acoustic phenomena. Called, connecting your speakers, Correctly! Not both inverted, negative polarity backwards. Everybody makes that mistake. With their electrical engineering degrees and their acoustic engineering degrees. It's very funny. No it is not funny.
    No I consider this to be the biggest technical audio faux pas FUCK up. In Pro Audio History. And nobody was to accept the fact. They've all gotten this backwards. They are, adapt. That they are correct! But it doesn't sound correct.. In your monitoring environment. And hey. Spoiler Alert!!
    It's not your acoustics. Even, if it is. Because what your speakers are both in negative polarity wiring. And you think it's positive. You really don't know what the FUCK. You are listening to. You don't know how it's supposed to sound. Your speakers are effectively, sucking.. They are not punching out toward you. Even if you can prove they are. LOL. No. They are wired to mimic the motion of the microphone diaphragms. And are those moving out toward you? No they are not. The joke is on you.
    And! There you have it! How to monitor like Bruce Swedien and Quincy Jones. And hey. I worked with Quincy Jones for an entire television season as an, Audio Engineer. On a show he was Executive Producer, on. And I know Bruce Swedien.. Or used to. I'm not quite as old. I'm only 67. I'm a youngster. But in the industry for over 50 years LOL. Yes I got a very early start. And so everything I'm telling you is 100% true. For anybody who is actually reading this. And you know who you are. You are the ones seeking knowledge and information. You just got some of the best information ever!
    You can flip the polarity on both of your speakers. With the cheapest of hi-fi's.. And you will be pleasantly amazed. You'll freak! I turn all my friends onto this. They have learned the way. To,, pure monitoring nirvana.
    Try it and enjoy. With your stereo and passive speakers of any brand except JBL. Those are already connected correctly. If you have them/any. But all others this pertains to. On that you can depend. I fix control room monitoring. The electrical engineers and acoustic engineers can't fix.. Because they think they got their math right. They didn't they made a fundamental error. A beginners error.
    It's tragically and pathetically, funny.
    RemyRAD

  • @niozikpro5812
    @niozikpro5812 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the video. This is exactly what I was looking for (minute 03:23min)

  • @KhanyisileMngadi
    @KhanyisileMngadi 3 месяца назад

    Oh my goodness. This is all science to me. And to think I actually have to learn this one day

  • @superpayaseria
    @superpayaseria Год назад

    This is why I hate when people comment he's the best blah blah blah. They never give credit to any of the producers, or theatrics. The simple truth is if a lot of great musicians out there had millions of dollars, and producers at hand that Michael had they also would be putting out way higher level content. The simple fact is yes Michael was talented, but money and top notch production was literally half of it. I know u hate me for saying it but it's simply true. Poor artists simply are already way way way more disadvantaged.

  • @prodbykun5733
    @prodbykun5733 Год назад +2

    Great video

  • @RickRijuanaPro
    @RickRijuanaPro Год назад

    3:45 Damn
    "The Personality of the music is in the transients"

  • @JeffEllisWorldwide
    @JeffEllisWorldwide Год назад +4

    Sick. Hates compassion like me. Also you been in that first studio where they recording strings :p

    • @prodbytytaan
      @prodbytytaan Год назад +4

      damn bro why do u hate compassion ?

    • @JeffEllisWorldwide
      @JeffEllisWorldwide Год назад

      @@prodbytytaan for the same reasons listed in the video

    • @DRANKWORLD
      @DRANKWORLD Год назад +1

      @@JeffEllisWorldwidecompression *

    • @prodbytytaan
      @prodbytytaan Год назад +1

      @@JeffEllisWorldwide lol aren't u the engineer that mixes for frank ocean ? if so that is crazy. I am a fan

  • @CoOlTy3000
    @CoOlTy3000 Год назад +1

    Brilliant!

  • @TonyLFisher
    @TonyLFisher Год назад

    Great! Please share more videos.

  • @RobRuffMusic
    @RobRuffMusic Год назад +1

    Dudes an OG... I couldnt imagine what editing must have been like without computerd... Vocal Comping would be almost totally off the table. You really need a talented singer to get a good take.

  • @peezyy3
    @peezyy3 Год назад +1

    How tf does a finish on a mic grill affect the sound??? Lol idk about that.

    • @Reggi_Sample
      @Reggi_Sample Год назад +1

      The material used in front of the microphone would obviously affect the sound. He was referring to the material not the color

  • @fw.jordey3852
    @fw.jordey3852 Год назад +2

    More of these

  • @forsure2283
    @forsure2283 Год назад +2

    Title should be Micheal Jacksons Producers Studio Secrets

  • @Jerrylumdegaard
    @Jerrylumdegaard Год назад

    As an assistant I used to love aligning tape machines.

  • @Skrenja
    @Skrenja Год назад +1

    Really irks me when people mix up the SM7 and SM7B. The SM7 is a totally different mic that is leagues above the SM7B.

  • @davidclarkson3066
    @davidclarkson3066 Год назад

    Brucie!!! ❤️ What a guy! 😎😎

  • @SamadSaVage
    @SamadSaVage Год назад

    Pls pls PLEASE do Stevie Wonder’s engineer next

  • @sleonse
    @sleonse Год назад

    Now we’re talking

  • @princetonaudio
    @princetonaudio Год назад

    Thanks so much!

  • @tommyaudio
    @tommyaudio Год назад

    12:1? that's light? guessing that means a very tame threshold then

  • @karljunglist
    @karljunglist Год назад +1

    quite a few spots where your voice audio cuts in too quickly over other voice audio, heard it a few times while watching.
    i liked the info but watch your vid a few times before you post so you can fix stuff like that.

  • @amanmoroney
    @amanmoroney Год назад +1

    Bruce used Westlake Audio BBSM series as well - got to know that from Ashish Manchanda, who worked with Bruce closely.
    ruclips.net/video/P7e5yncRrhc/видео.html

  • @thejacoshow1
    @thejacoshow1 Год назад +2

    Rip to the 🐐

  • @Shamanicjourney7
    @Shamanicjourney7 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing

  • @heathsledger
    @heathsledger 4 месяца назад

    epic content bro thanks

  • @TeezyK
    @TeezyK Год назад

    Whats Bruce full name?

  • @maetzchenmusik
    @maetzchenmusik Год назад

    One of the most prolific or is of all time - what's that?

  • @SANMUSIC369
    @SANMUSIC369 Год назад

    Yes compressor was change the dinamic efect

  • @anthonydempsey7693
    @anthonydempsey7693 Год назад +1

    It's better to split the mic's and not compress them but rather filter the sound on a diamond regulator.

  • @ReeWebster
    @ReeWebster Год назад

    4:06, think he needs one more bass trap.

  • @HaileyWC.One.-lg1sp
    @HaileyWC.One.-lg1sp Год назад

    Beautiful 😍❤️

  • @axatheoriginalbiitch
    @axatheoriginalbiitch Год назад

    You know what I can just use parallel compression and make everybody happy

  • @muffinman4353
    @muffinman4353 Год назад +3

    Mike had a lot of secrets.

  • @joshi_young
    @joshi_young Год назад +3

    Lol. I noticed the bad, forward-leaning posture of many engineers as well. In Dave Pensado videos for example. Also noticed in some barbers, how their shoulders and necks stick forward.
    To combat, I got myself a (gaming) chair with neck support, and an adjustable stand for my Laptop, to increase height and change angle.
    I would say: "Kids...be smart and don't become a Pensado" ... but that is kinda what we are striving for 😅

    • @superpayaseria
      @superpayaseria Год назад

      After I felt I did damage to my back I simply always stand now. And it only took about 1 year and a half or so of that all day producing. It can happen quick. It's super bad. If only I knew sooner. I simply pray and trust God to heal me.

  • @ProdJbrenz
    @ProdJbrenz Год назад

    George T to the fucking moon!

  • @Yarden.
    @Yarden. Год назад

    Legend

  • @scophylio1
    @scophylio1 Год назад

    George, are you a studio engineer?

  • @romance27
    @romance27 Год назад +1

    Rip Bruce. Surprised you said he "still uses "

  • @dex7378
    @dex7378 Год назад +1

    final cut boys

  • @ageeblue752
    @ageeblue752 Год назад

    yes do more vids

  • @demolishbeatz3796
    @demolishbeatz3796 Год назад

    I use compression. it depends on how well you use it. it's all about learning how to hear. Not seeing what works!

    • @dr.darkroom
      @dr.darkroom Год назад

      LOL clown comment - don't remember your album next to Bad.

  • @mill3370
    @mill3370 Год назад

    Al Schmitt just chilling in the background

  • @DJOZER5
    @DJOZER5 Год назад

    Great Vidéo!!👀🎶✨🙏🏿

  • @LarryLeeMoniz
    @LarryLeeMoniz Год назад

    You edit your vocal breaks a bit too close together. At times almost overlap. It doesn't sound natural. Outside that, I really enjoyed this video.

  • @doctorhagglefester7199
    @doctorhagglefester7199 Год назад

    Cliff Clavin with Michael Jackson

  • @trentonbates3114
    @trentonbates3114 Год назад

    I love me some michael

  • @GgWhyfye
    @GgWhyfye Год назад +5

    People like me and michael who have brutally powerful voices . Need mics like the the sm7 because we can literally blow up a condenser microphone. Thats why the sm7 has always been, and still is such a critical and intricate piece in rock production. The sm7 can accurately record a strong wailing singing voice. If you have ever worked with one im sure you know how low it takes in audio, and it needs a lot of power to produce sound. This is why its able to collect the full range and dynamics of an intense gutteral performance... A lot of condenser mics will just overdrive, and simply cant capture all the nuances and frequencies of a belting vocal take . It will literally leave stuff out and fail to represent the singers actual tonality .
    Not to mention what will also happen during the a to b digital conversion in our interfaces and daw systems . In a lot of cases a condenser mic is just inadequate and lackluster to certain situations. Thats why in my opinion the SM7 is a mandatory for your studio if you are a serious musician . ( It does more than just vocals) its just a very good piece for handling a Hot input or Loud high frequency instruments.. I got one and i also have the usb one they started making (i forget the model number but its an SM7 USB Mic) The 57 and 58 are also great for your arsenal as well. You can seriously get it all done with those 3 mics ... Sorry for the nerd out ... Actually no im not, go get you an SM7...

    • @montysharma2813
      @montysharma2813 Год назад +7

      You ain’t Michael

    • @GgWhyfye
      @GgWhyfye Год назад

      @@montysharma2813 no I am not that nigga is dead

    • @utilitydisk
      @utilitydisk Год назад +1

      you ain’t michael

    • @utilitydisk
      @utilitydisk Год назад

      (michael jackson was technically perfect, with a fully developed range and resonance. What you call “powerful” is just and effect of perfect technique.)

    • @GgWhyfye
      @GgWhyfye Год назад +1

      @@utilitydisk Michael was definitely flat sometimes. But at far as technique I feel you on that sentiment

  • @batmandestroys1978
    @batmandestroys1978 Год назад

    A human voice, Piano Flute Veena Drums Mridangam Violin Guitar Triangle Trumpet Saxophone Mouth organ Cello Xylophone Clap box Electric guitar Bass guitarBugle HarpHarmonium Oboe Maracas Cymbal Accordion Bongo drums Bell French horn Banjo Conga drums Keyboard Long Pipe organ Comet Tambourine Trombone Ukulele Electronic drums Drum pad Clarinet Harmonica Tuba Bass drum Snare drum Euphonium Piccolo Flute Marimba Bassoon Cornet Celesta Spinet Oud Yueqin Dholak Tabla Damru Sarangi Sitar Gu-zheng Ektara Shehnai Sarod Pungi Gramophone Tubular chimes are all analog instuments.

  • @esotericmissionary
    @esotericmissionary Год назад +2

    God, yes, finally somebody else, a True Master Recording Engineer, no less, that also hates compression! #Huzzah

  • @DruDilly
    @DruDilly Год назад +1

    Appreciate you for this!! Also, retitle the post to Michael not Micheal ;)

  • @rom4486
    @rom4486 Год назад +1

    He destroyed my world , no compressor ?? 😩😩😭😭

  • @thurstonmurru
    @thurstonmurru Год назад

    I love compression

  • @jonasbarbosa7188
    @jonasbarbosa7188 Год назад

    Traduz em português ou coloque legenda

  • @marcuswilliams7640
    @marcuswilliams7640 Год назад

    make more like this