Being a professional machinist/foreman for 30 years now retired I was thinking of getting back into the game with a small lathe and vertical mill in my large garage/shop. I have been hunting some videos and reviews on various medium size lathes and came across your video. This is a very good review in my opinion and has helped me narrow down the featured lathe I am looking for in this particular size category. So yes, in my professional opinion, Matthew’s has chosen very well in partnering with you as evidenced from your outstanding video. Take care!
I purchased the PM1340-GT lathe about 2 yrs ago and LOVE it. Gets used regularly. One trick I learned long ago for tightening Jacobs-style scroll chucks is to go around and tighten all three key locations. You find that tightening only one location places an off-center strain on the chuck scroll. This can lead to drill bits spinning in the chuck when drilling metal. The same procedure is recommended for tightening material in the lathe three jaw scroll-chuck. You get better alignment, and holds the material more positively to prevent loosening or spinning, without using excessive force on the tightening key.
I'm 17 and currently in a vocational school for precision machining. I'm also job shadowing at a local gun Smith shop. Hopefully one day I'll have my own.
Man at 17 i was chasing tail, smoking weed and going away to college, now at 40 still paying off my 100 stack loans and wish i listened to my dad who was a bad ass machinist and model maker for the navy., im growing into loving machinist trade so much in the last cpl years. i really could kick myself for not getting into it when i was a kid. still learned a ton from my old man, that and us germans,there something in our genes thatt draws us towards tools and measurements i really think.
This guy talked me into buying a PM-1440BV lathe. Questions that I have had are serviced quicker by these people than any other source. Twice now on Sundays I sent an e-mail with questions and received answers on Sunday. With this kind of service and attitude these people will be my source for all machine tools.
Gavin, not sure if you read these, I know how busy you are... but I took delivery of my PM1440GT today. I'm so excited! and greatful for all you do. You have been a true inspiration in reloading, machining and gunsmithing. I retired from a 34 year IT career last month and have started Indian Creek Armory LLC, an 07 FFL/02 SOT business in Oxford OHIO. Thanks again- I can't wait to uncrate this beast and make some chips fly. PS. I just sent a note to Matt and John at Precision Matthews letting them know it was totally because of you that I decided on this machine (vs that other brand named after some kind of bear.) Have an awesome day.
Hi Gaven. I literally just bought a LD1340GHE lathe after doing a LOT of research and after watching this video. It is a Liang Dei made in Taiwan. I believe the PM lathe is made in the same factory. My lathe has most of the features your has but mine only has a 40mm through bore. Yours is the next level. I didn't need that precision. I learned a lot from your video. They don't supply a lot of information when you buy the lathe. They assume you know how to drive one. I'm looking forward to learning more from you. Cheers from Aussie.
Hi and thank you. I just bought his little brother Al-960B 305x925, I can't be any happier. I am 65 years old and anthill now I have only pinch learning lathe from workshop to workshop on different machines.
I purchased a PM-1236 lathe and PM-949 mill from Mat about 10 years ago when I retired. I've made hundreds of of precision gauge plugs for airgun bench rest on the lathe. I ordered both with 3 phase 220v motors and run them with Huanyang VFD's. The preferred equipment option is highly recommended. Both machines have been flawless with no issues to report.
well it's a lathe ruclips.net/user/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
One of the MOST informative videos regarding lathes and accessories I have watched. I can't wait to go make some of those holders and using the tips I learned from your video. 10/10! Thanks!
I am shopping right now for my 1st lathe. Almost sold on the G0776 then started looking at PM 1236 PEP. Now I am even starting to convince myself on the PM 1440 GT.
If you Google precision Matthew's, after the adds, and after precision Matthew's own home page this is the first search result. Gavin, I think that you are winning the internet.
Good morning sir. Thank you for the video. One thing I appreciate is that you made your accessories and holders. Yes you could purchase them, but the more work you perform, the better your skill. You obviously understand this well. You can also create tools to meet your exact needs. Well done.
Awesome video. I have the little brother to this. The PM-1340GT. I've upgraded the motor and control system so I have the ability to run down to near zero RPM for threading. Have had this lathe for 2-1/2 years and love it. I also have their PM-940M-CNC mill. Also a nice machine.
I also purchased the 1340GT about 8 months ago and love it! No regrets. Also have the PM-45CNC and will be upgrading the steppers to ClearPath servos very soon. Great machine.
Looking for something else on this rainy morning and found you. I must say you are amazing, Sir. Your video editing and clarity is head and shoulders of most on youtube. I am 70, retired and bought a Grizzly G0824 a couple of years ago and have been thoroughly happy with my purchase too. I am just a beginner metal worker so I will not comment on the equipment. What I am most impressed with beyond your machining and video skills is your ability to keep your lathe clean!
Thank you for the demonstration. My PM1440 is scheduled to arrive mid next month. Your enthusiasm for this lathe has played a large part in my decision to purchase the PM1440.
Which version did you get?.. The 1440 GT in this video is the ultra high precision unit but is a step up in precision and cost it looks like compared to the PM 1440 LB
I’m looking to get my first lathe. Zero lathe experience. Trying to decide if I want to start small with something like a 10x22 or jump right in with something like the G4003G or PM1236. Edit: I ended up finding a used ENCO 12x40 Gearhead from a local machine shop. 3.2 hp 3 phase motor. Excited to get it up and running.
@@Ultimatereloader I am a retired PE based in Oregon After emigrated from the UK some 12 years after graduating Mechanical Engineering in the UK. Similar to yourself, I got to do 6 months of training on lathes/mills and welding at the start of University training. I have never stopped using those skills in my hobbies, even though as an engineer I never got to touch a tool in my professional life. Funny how the need to do stuff with one's hands never leaves you. This will be my first "high end" machine..:)
excellent series i've always hope someone on youtube would do something like this for people who would like to get into gunsmithing and chamber their own barrels, etc. Not much info around the internet
Great review. I picked up a PM-1236T lathe and a PM-835S mill as my first machines setting up a hobby shop in my garage. I've been very pleased with both and highly recommend Precision Matthews!
I have ran two different branded lathes that are the same casting design and got to say I love them for doing small delicate work. Hopefully will get a chance to use a PM someday.
Fantastic review, you convinced me, I've ordered the same model equivalent here in Australia as Liang Dei 1440ET, only difference RHD carriage wheel, metric lead screws, 240v 50hz power.
I am currently taking a course in gunsmithing and we are dealing with the lathe and milling for this course. You video put into perspective all of the pictures and text that I have read. Keeping in mind that I have no machining experience. It put a visual to the text and was kind of the ah ha moment. It also addressed another concern in terms of tolerances. I get the idea that you want to have the best equipment you can afford, but I can't afford the best equipment. This seems like a great alternative for the small business gunsmith. I subscribe and will be watching your other videos. Nice.
This hobby is addictive and constantly requires another gizmo. I've got the PM1440HD that I've had for several years. Very sturdy machine weighing in at about 2600#s with its cast iron base. Plenty of power, I'm on 3 phase. I'd like to have the bigger bore but mine came with the D1-4 spindle. In addition to the nice accessory kit I got the taper attachment and the collet chuck with a set of collets from PM. The collet chuck is very nice but is the type that requires considerable turning to close on a different collet. I do repair work on mostly metric equipment so often need to change the gears, kind of a PIA. I do a lot of turning between centers so I can take the work off and trial fit. I've gone to straight-in threading, works fine . No fooling around with two adjustments. I've got a Shars (Deckel knock off) single point tool grinder and I've found that I can regrind carbide inserts for both the lathe and mill. 2 & 4 flute end mills both HSS & carbide can be easily end sharpened. Been playing around making gears with a 8" rotary table, time consuming! As it turns out the lathe is just a minor part of this entire scheme.
Heck, one can't buy what one wants now days. You have to make it. I went to the site which makes these machines while you were demonstrating your lathe. Wonderful tools. You mention that you machine rifle barrels; I saw the taper attachment which was very nice.
Fantastic video. I've been interested in learning machining for several years. I have been trying my hand in this for a few years as well, making small parts and tools. I really want to move to the next level by learning the proper way to use lathes and mills. Am really looking forward to your next series. Thanks/
Gavin, thank you for the in depth review and info on the PM1440 GT. I purchased this exact lathe and PM14x49 mill a couple of years ago for hobby machining. The alignment features were great and hope you can cover oil changes on the lathe in the future. Best regards, Luis
Absolutely excellent demonstration and the most in depth review of this lathe. Thank you. Changed my mind over the Grizzly GO824 with the accessories PM sells. Hope to get one soon!
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I spotted PM tools about a year ago. I was gonna drive up this summer and look them over because, honestly, for less than the cost of a used car I can equip a "complete" shop with their stuff. But IS it any good? I'm a hobbyist, not a production shop, but after seeing these in action I know I could run them every day and they'll last longer than will. You videos saved me a nasty drive up to Pittsburgh. THANK YOU. KEEP DOING IT.
Looks like a really high-value unit for $9k. A lathe like the PM-1440GT is on my wishlist for setting up my post-retirement gunsmith shop. Keep up the great work!
I’m actually impressed with that little Lathe. I regularly use a Monarch Model K and 10EE for precision work at the shop. It’s really starting to make the home shop idea pretty attainable.
I love the video! I am a gunsmith and I recently bought the PM 1340 GT. I would love to see a video on how you installed the DRO. I am looking to pick up a PM mill in the near future, so your videos are a great resource, thank you!
Really enjoyed the video, one thing entered my mind, keeping collet out in the open in trays makes them susceptible to dust imo, I keep mine in a toolbox drawer. Just wondered if my concern is over thinking things
nice video- great info, you should use cut foam shadow boards for the drawers with tools and tooling, its even considered a Kaizan principle within lean manufacturing / TPS
gavintoobe, I appreciate the time you took in coordination with Precision Matthews to put this very detailed vid together. I have been in contact with Matt at PM, but on the fence between the PM1440E-LB and the 1340GT. Not exactly the same as what you are showing but from what I see, minuscule differences in some size areas - and nothing more. Based on your vid, I will be taking a closer look before I purchase the China made lathe. Thx.
Very nice machine. I can see rifle barrels being cut on that machine. With the outboard spider and JGS floating reamer holder you are ready to thread and chamber. Great video!
Very nice Gavin well-organized. I was a Millwright shop lead man and I love to organize and I had people laughing at me. But when we needed a part and the lines are down we could go right where we kept them and get things back going. We made aluminum beverage cans at 2000 cans per minute they did not like to see the machines stopped.
Great review. I've had my PM1340GT lathe for about 5 years now and still love running it every time, the PM1440GT was not available yet when I purchased mine but still haven't been up against the work envelope yet although I've been close a couple of times. You are right about Matt, he is great to deal with and very hands on. Love the custom touches, that was one of the first things I did to mine as well was to add custom accessories to make it my own and tailored to my use. Mike
I know it’s a 2 year old comment but maybe you’ll see this, how often do you find the 1340s 1-9/16” bore restricts you and this 1440 with the 2” spindle bore would have worked?
@@omgwtfits7612 personally I have not encountered anywhere that the 1-9/16" through bore has been a restriction. Would a 2" bore be better? Absolutely, but I have not been unable to machine what I've needed to on my PM1340GT. Hope that is helpful. Mike
nice lathe I just retired from Caterpillar after over 44 yr of running machines. The last machine was a G&L 1 meter lathe. It would be nice to run a lathe like that one after running cnc for so long. might look into one myself.
Comparing the 1340gt to the 1440gt, are there a lot of jobs that come to mind that the 1-9/16” bore won’t fit but the 2” will? Are we talking only custom 50 BMGs or is it pretty common that 2” barely gets the job done?
Yes, sir I will. I am waiting for the check to arrive from my bank, I'll deposit and turn around in a cashiers check to PM. Have been corresponding with Nicole there regarding pre-shipping inspection of both machines. The response and willingness to work with customers is refreshing in todays' society. It'll be about 90-days before they will arrive. The machines will travel to Seattle, then on Alaska Marine Lines for shipping to Western Alaska via oceangoing barge. I will have my shop ready for them, and the electrician will be kept up to date so once they're here he can wire my place quickly. I bought the 3-phase 1440GT so I can use a VFD. Your set-up looks ideal regarding collets and workholding. I bought another rollaway toolchest just for this occasion. Really looking forward to this. :) @@Ultimatereloader
Hey Gavin, like I said three months ago; it'd be 90-days. Should be here by next week. Will be a big deal getting them into my shop. Not impossible, but tough. @@Ultimatereloader
I'm no expert but I've seen many tailstock alignment tests & yours is the first where the cross slide is moved after the first cut & then moved back to zero. Seems better as a test for the DRO than for tailstock alignment. You must have seen video's where material is removed between the 2 test cut points so the cross slide is not moved & the test is done just by moving the carriage & turning the 2 major diameters.
Did you ever get a chance to do video on how you mounted the tool trays that you made? I’m getting ready to build some and wanted to see how you had them mounted.
Looks like an awesome lathe. I prefer KDK toolholders over Aloris style if you can find a set. When I thread I never use the compound anymore only on difficult materials.
Good review. You are correct about the improvement of surface finish switching from a single phase to a three phase motor. The single phase motors cog, or accelerate and decelerate somewhat during rotation, and this can transfer to the workpiece when running fast, say 1:1 ratio from motor to workpiece. Also , the reversing function for metric threading on an imperial machine is much better. Have fun with your new purchase.
I really like this lathe. I am busy looking at buying my first lathe and Milling machine. However here in South Africa, I don't think this machine is available. Everything is super pricy here as well. Well that been said I still like the PM Lathe. Thank you for the demo. I liked it.
Great video! You are answering so many questions I've had for a long time. Fantastic setup and manufacturing or your own tools. Looking forward to watching the fundamentals videos!
Thanks for sharing this video. I've been eyeballing this lathe for quite some time now. The ways and carriage look really small for a 14-40 lathe. It's really tough to make a decision when you've been running Hardinge toolroom lathes for 35 years. They will spoil you.
It is noteworthy that some individuals utilize lathes that are 50 to 60 years old, which are significantly less expensive than contemporary machinery, yet they consistently produce superior workmanship. The rifles crafted by these experienced gunsmiths often exhibit a higher level of accuracy compared to those produced using advanced machines like the Precision Matthews 1440GT. This observation underscores a fundamental truth in manufacturing: the quality of the output is not solely determined by the machine itself but also by the expertise and craftsmanship of the operator. Consequently, extensive investment in equipment is not always necessary to achieve exceptional results. Precision Matthews PM-14401440GT nevertheless is a wonderful piece of equipment
Would I be crazy to get into a 1340GT as a first lathe? I have no experience with machining, but have said to myself "If only I had a lathe" hundreds of times. It is quite a hefty investment, but I don't want a machine that I will outgrow in a few years, and there is always money to be made with the proper equipment. Appreciate the quality of the video.
Nice lathe and presentation but I have to poke you just a bit Gavin. When you start an operation please face the piece. I break out in hives when you don't. :-)
15:22 Wind the tailstock barrel out - does it have a slot in the side for ejecting tapers without having to wind the barrel all the way in ? - YES - seen later in the vid.
Hi. Just found this. Very nice review. I am looking for a new lathe. I’m curious - have you been able to break chips on this lathe - i.e. C’s and 6’s? I only saw birds nests in your review. What surface finishes have you achieved? Edit: that .200 cut was pretty nice. Looks like it ate that up no probs - could maybe have broken the swarf up with a slightly higher feed? Nice finish too. 👍
Gavin. Please continue demonstrating how to set up & correctly use the lathe from a beginners perspective. I signed up for Gordy Gritter's rifle building & AR Accurizing classes. I'm not suggesting that you reproduce Gordy's material. What I need from (& would like to see on the channel) is a better working knowledge of how to run the lathe from someone with the same aspirations. I hope to purchase the same lathe in the future and have a lot of learning in front of me, so any content demonstrating how to set it up and run it correctly would be especially helpful. I.e. Gordy can teach the gunsmithing, but I'm hoping you can help teach me how to correctly run the lathe. Thank you.
Being a professional machinist/foreman for 30 years now retired I was thinking of getting back into the game with a small lathe and vertical mill in my large garage/shop. I have been hunting some videos and reviews on various medium size lathes and came across your video. This is a very good review in my opinion and has helped me narrow down the featured lathe I am looking for in this particular size category. So yes, in my professional opinion, Matthew’s has chosen very well in partnering with you as evidenced from your outstanding video. Take care!
Thank you Austin, that means a lot coming from a seasoned pro like yourself!
What other lathes were you considering?
Art from Ohio
I purchased the PM1340-GT lathe about 2 yrs ago and LOVE it. Gets used regularly.
One trick I learned long ago for tightening Jacobs-style scroll chucks is to go around and tighten all three key locations. You find that tightening only one location places an off-center strain on the chuck scroll. This can lead to drill bits spinning in the chuck when drilling metal. The same procedure is recommended for tightening material in the lathe three jaw scroll-chuck. You get better alignment, and holds the material more positively to prevent loosening or spinning, without using excessive force on the tightening key.
Thanks Jim!
I'm 17 and currently in a vocational school for precision machining. I'm also job shadowing at a local gun Smith shop. Hopefully one day I'll have my own.
Happy you found your path at such a young age. I'm 56 and looking to start a gunsmithing course this summer. Good luck in your career. 🔫👍😊
Thank you!
sounds to me like youre on your way.
Man at 17 i was chasing tail, smoking weed and going away to college, now at 40 still paying off my 100 stack loans and wish i listened to my dad who was a bad ass machinist and model maker for the navy., im growing into loving machinist trade so much in the last cpl years. i really could kick myself for not getting into it when i was a kid. still learned a ton from my old man, that and us germans,there something in our genes thatt draws us towards tools and measurements i really think.
sounds like you're already on your way, when i was 17 i was pathetic.. sort of
This has got to be one of the sweetest set ups for a man cave lathe
This guy talked me into buying a PM-1440BV lathe. Questions that I have had are serviced quicker by these people than any other source. Twice now on Sundays I sent an e-mail with questions and received answers on Sunday. With this kind of service and attitude these people will be my source for all machine tools.
this is the most organized ,efficient and valuable video for lathe enthusiasts . thank you so much .
Stan
Hard to believe this was only 3yrs ago. You’ve made huge progress in such a short period of time! Congrats
Gavin, not sure if you read these, I know how busy you are... but I took delivery of my PM1440GT today. I'm so excited! and greatful for all you do. You have been a true inspiration in reloading, machining and gunsmithing. I retired from a 34 year IT career last month and have started Indian Creek Armory LLC, an 07 FFL/02 SOT business in Oxford OHIO. Thanks again- I can't wait to uncrate this beast and make some chips fly. PS. I just sent a note to Matt and John at Precision Matthews letting them know it was totally because of you that I decided on this machine (vs that other brand named after some kind of bear.) Have an awesome day.
Hi Gaven.
I literally just bought a LD1340GHE lathe after doing a LOT of research and after watching this video. It is a Liang Dei made in Taiwan. I believe the PM lathe is made in the same factory. My lathe has most of the features your has but mine only has a 40mm through bore. Yours is the next level. I didn't need that precision.
I learned a lot from your video. They don't supply a lot of information when you buy the lathe. They assume you know how to drive one. I'm looking forward to learning more from you.
Cheers from Aussie.
Excellent and thorough review young man, I am very impressed. PM did good partnering with you.
Art from Ohio
Hi and thank you. I just bought his little brother Al-960B 305x925, I can't be any happier. I am 65 years old and anthill now I have only pinch learning lathe from workshop to workshop on different machines.
This is as good as it gets... this is just what I needed... Im sticking with you gavintoobe! You are my instructor!!!
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I purchased a PM-1236 lathe and PM-949 mill from Mat about 10 years ago when I retired. I've made hundreds of of precision gauge plugs for airgun bench rest on the lathe. I ordered both with 3 phase 220v motors and run them with Huanyang VFD's. The preferred equipment option is highly recommended. Both machines have been flawless with no issues to report.
This video is exactly what I needed. I have been eyeballing that lathe for a while now.
I've had this same machine for several years how and it's excellent, very happy with the purchase.
well it's a lathe ruclips.net/user/postUgkxN9zrzkkhnjUF5PQbuA_B1gYdsfCu9k6z but it wasn't what i would have anticipated. Headstock, tailstock, carriage apron are manufactured from aluminum now not cast iron. The spindle diameter for the bearings is too small allowing for a few play in the spindle so I am using some blue Loctite to take out the play.
That's disconcerting considering they were bragging about their casting abilities they should probably change that
If I was ever fortunate to own a lathe this would undoudtedly be my # 1 choice ,I would look no further.Thanks for the great in-depth walkthrough.
Thank you Rusty!
It has been a long time since I have obtained this much knowledge while watching a video! Thank you sir! Great setup by the way.
Assume you got me hooked !Great job Gavin
Great sound, great visuals, great narration - real passion for the subject. WIN. Cheers, Bud!
Your never too old too learn a new trade!
I'm 61 years old and going to start clambering my own competition rifles!
Thanks too the Ultimate Reloader!
One of the MOST informative videos regarding lathes and accessories I have watched. I can't wait to go make some of those holders and using the tips I learned from your video. 10/10! Thanks!
Thanks Joshua!!!! I had fun putting it together!
What a nice machine. Appreciate the tour !!
I am shopping right now for my 1st lathe. Almost sold on the G0776 then started looking at
PM 1236 PEP. Now I am even starting to convince myself on the PM 1440 GT.
If you Google precision Matthew's, after the adds, and after precision Matthew's own home page this is the first search result. Gavin, I think that you are winning the internet.
AWESOME!!!!!!
Gavin, thank you for sharing - your videos on the 1440 have answered a lot of questions. Well done video.
Good morning sir. Thank you for the video. One thing I appreciate is that you made your accessories and holders. Yes you could purchase them, but the more work you perform, the better your skill. You obviously understand this well. You can also create tools to meet your exact needs. Well done.
Okay, you got me hook, line and sinker. I’m calling Matthews tomorrow to order a lathe. Awesome video. Thank you.
Awesome video. I have the little brother to this. The PM-1340GT. I've upgraded the motor and control system so I have the ability to run down to near zero RPM for threading.
Have had this lathe for 2-1/2 years and love it. I also have their PM-940M-CNC mill. Also a nice machine.
Rad- I'm super-curious to try a PM-1340GT. I've heard they are great as well!
I also purchased the 1340GT about 8 months ago and love it! No regrets.
Also have the PM-45CNC and will be upgrading the steppers to ClearPath servos very soon. Great machine.
Looking for something else on this rainy morning and found you. I must say you are amazing, Sir. Your video editing and clarity is head and shoulders of most on youtube. I am 70, retired and bought a Grizzly G0824 a couple of years ago and have been thoroughly happy with my purchase too. I am just a beginner metal worker so I will not comment on the equipment. What I am most impressed with beyond your machining and video skills is your ability to keep your lathe clean!
Thanks Dennis! Hope you are having fun with you lathe. What a great way to spend your time during retirement!
I like this model. will possibly order it soon.
Thank you for the demonstration. My PM1440 is scheduled to arrive mid next month. Your enthusiasm for this lathe has played a large part in my decision to purchase the PM1440.
Which version did you get?.. The 1440 GT in this video is the ultra high precision unit but is a step up in precision and cost it looks like compared to the PM 1440 LB
GT
@@johnferguson2728 Nice
@@johnferguson2728 I just ordered mine this morning!..:)
When are you expecting delivery?
Great video. I sure wish that the lathe had a moving shield to protect the lead screw from the swarf.
I’m looking to get my first lathe. Zero lathe experience. Trying to decide if I want to start small with something like a 10x22 or jump right in with something like the G4003G or PM1236.
Edit: I ended up finding a used ENCO 12x40 Gearhead from a local machine shop. 3.2 hp 3 phase motor. Excited to get it up and running.
Yes from comments below this video was the clincher for me.. I just ordered a GT for arrival in Jan/Feb 22.
Congrats!!!
@@Ultimatereloader I am a retired PE based in Oregon After emigrated from the UK some 12 years after graduating Mechanical Engineering in the UK. Similar to yourself, I got to do 6 months of training on lathes/mills and welding at the start of University training. I have never stopped using those skills in my hobbies, even though as an engineer I never got to touch a tool in my professional life. Funny how the need to do stuff with one's hands never leaves you. This will be my first "high end" machine..:)
excellent series i've always hope someone on youtube would do something like this for people who would like to get into gunsmithing and chamber their own barrels, etc. Not much info around the internet
Looking forward to the lathe series.
Great review. I picked up a PM-1236T lathe and a PM-835S mill as my first machines setting up a hobby shop in my garage. I've been very pleased with both and highly recommend Precision Matthews!
I have ran two different branded lathes that are the same casting design and got to say I love them for doing small delicate work. Hopefully will get a chance to use a PM someday.
Great review and demo, You can never go wrong with a PM machine from Matt, you partnered up with a winner!
Fantastic review, you convinced me, I've ordered the same model equivalent here in Australia as Liang Dei 1440ET, only difference RHD carriage wheel, metric lead screws, 240v 50hz power.
I am currently taking a course in gunsmithing and we are dealing with the lathe and milling for this course. You video put into perspective all of the pictures and text that I have read. Keeping in mind that I have no machining experience. It put a visual to the text and was kind of the ah ha moment. It also addressed another concern in terms of tolerances. I get the idea that you want to have the best equipment you can afford, but I can't afford the best equipment. This seems like a great alternative for the small business gunsmith. I subscribe and will be watching your other videos. Nice.
After 50 years in machining it is easy to tell by how quiet that machine is it is well made.
This hobby is addictive and constantly requires another gizmo. I've got the PM1440HD that I've had for several years. Very sturdy machine weighing in at about 2600#s with its cast iron base. Plenty of power, I'm on 3 phase. I'd like to have the bigger bore but mine came with the D1-4 spindle. In addition to the nice accessory kit I got the taper attachment and the collet chuck with a set of collets from PM. The collet chuck is very nice but is the type that requires considerable turning to close on a different collet. I do repair work on mostly metric equipment so often need to change the gears, kind of a PIA. I do a lot of turning between centers so I can take the work off and trial fit. I've gone to straight-in threading, works fine . No fooling around with two adjustments. I've got a Shars (Deckel knock off) single point tool grinder and I've found that I can regrind carbide inserts for both the lathe and mill. 2 & 4 flute end mills both HSS & carbide can be easily end sharpened. Been playing around making gears with a 8" rotary table, time consuming! As it turns out the lathe is just a minor part of this entire scheme.
Heck, one can't buy what one wants now days. You have to make it. I went to the site which makes these machines while you were demonstrating your lathe. Wonderful tools. You mention that you machine rifle barrels; I saw the taper attachment which was very nice.
Fantastic video. I've been interested in learning machining for several years. I have been trying my hand in this for a few years as well, making small parts and tools. I really want to move to the next level by learning the proper way to use lathes and mills. Am really looking forward to your next series. Thanks/
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What a fantastic thorough video! very helpful...saving my money for this one for sure
Another great video Gavin. I purchased the PM1236PEP last year and some of the tips and methods you showed, I will go put to use on my lathe. Thanks!
Gavin, thank you for the in depth review and info on the PM1440 GT. I purchased this exact lathe and PM14x49 mill a couple of years ago for hobby machining. The alignment features were great and hope you can cover oil changes on the lathe in the future.
Best regards, Luis
Wow. Well done. Your video was a huge help. Will be giving Matt a call soon!
Outstanding, This is one of your best....for me as a amateur machinist,.... thanks!
Absolutely excellent demonstration and the most in depth review of this lathe. Thank you. Changed my mind over the Grizzly GO824 with the accessories PM sells. Hope to get one soon!
I think you'll like the PM-1440GT- the quality and precision is excellent, and Matt is great to deal with- he personally takes care of his customers.
@@Ultimatereloader It's interesting that Colchester advises turning the leadscrew off nless actually threading - but you can't on this PM !
thanks for the tour Gavin.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I spotted PM tools about a year ago. I was gonna drive up this summer and look them over because, honestly, for less than the cost of a used car I can equip a "complete" shop with their stuff. But IS it any good? I'm a hobbyist, not a production shop, but after seeing these in action I know I could run them every day and they'll last longer than will. You videos saved me a nasty drive up to Pittsburgh. THANK YOU. KEEP DOING IT.
Your work area is always spotless!
Cant wait for the series I love learning this stuff!
same here. Heck, I better look, he might have worked on it by now.
Looks like a really high-value unit for $9k. A lathe like the PM-1440GT is on my wishlist for setting up my post-retirement gunsmith shop. Keep up the great work!
Good video. I bought the 1340GT. Got the premium tooling.
Congrats, keep me posted on how you like it!
Most certainly will!
I'm definitely ready for the fundamentals video! Thank you for taking the time to put all this together!
Joe pi or Mr Pete
I’m actually impressed with that little Lathe. I regularly use a Monarch Model K and 10EE for precision work at the shop. It’s really starting to make the home shop idea pretty attainable.
I have a 16 inch model k in my garage. It's a real work horse for me.
I have a 16x54 model k lathe in my garage. It's a real work horse. Would like to have a EE, or a series 50.
Your video was AWESOME thanks for taking the time to produce this.
Wow this was a great review. I learned a bunch and I am looking for the upcoming content.
I love the video! I am a gunsmith and I recently bought the PM 1340 GT. I would love to see a video on how you installed the DRO. I am looking to pick up a PM mill in the near future, so your videos are a great resource, thank you!
Really enjoyed the video, one thing entered my mind, keeping collet out in the open in trays makes them susceptible to dust imo, I keep mine in a toolbox drawer. Just wondered if my concern is over thinking things
nice video- great info, you should use cut foam shadow boards for the drawers with tools and tooling, its even considered a Kaizan principle within lean manufacturing / TPS
Thanks for a fantastic tour!
gavintoobe,
I appreciate the time you took in coordination with Precision Matthews to put this very detailed vid together. I have been in contact with Matt at PM, but on the fence between the PM1440E-LB and the 1340GT. Not exactly the same as what you are showing but from what I see, minuscule differences in some size areas - and nothing more. Based on your vid, I will be taking a closer look before I purchase the China made lathe. Thx.
Very nice machine. I can see rifle barrels being cut on that machine. With the outboard spider and JGS floating reamer holder you are ready to thread and chamber. Great video!
Very nice Gavin well-organized. I was a Millwright shop lead man and I love to organize and I had people laughing at me. But when we needed a part and the lines are down we could go right where we kept them and get things back going. We made aluminum beverage cans at 2000 cans per minute they did not like to see the machines stopped.
Nice, good work Robert- if you can't place your hands on your tools, you'll waste time, every time! :)
i would like to see you demo the micrometer stop with the inbuilt clutch . ??? :)
Great review. I've had my PM1340GT lathe for about 5 years now and still love running it every time, the PM1440GT was not available yet when I purchased mine but still haven't been up against the work envelope yet although I've been close a couple of times. You are right about Matt, he is great to deal with and very hands on. Love the custom touches, that was one of the first things I did to mine as well was to add custom accessories to make it my own and tailored to my use.
Mike
I know it’s a 2 year old comment but maybe you’ll see this, how often do you find the 1340s 1-9/16” bore restricts you and this 1440 with the 2” spindle bore would have worked?
@@omgwtfits7612 personally I have not encountered anywhere that the 1-9/16" through bore has been a restriction. Would a 2" bore be better? Absolutely, but I have not been unable to machine what I've needed to on my PM1340GT.
Hope that is helpful.
Mike
nice lathe I just retired from Caterpillar after over 44 yr of running machines. The last machine was a G&L 1 meter lathe. It would be nice to run a lathe like that one after running cnc for so long. might look into one myself.
Comparing the 1340gt to the 1440gt, are there a lot of jobs that come to mind that the 1-9/16” bore won’t fit but the 2” will? Are we talking only custom 50 BMGs or is it pretty common that 2” barely gets the job done?
It is because of this page I just ordered a PM1440GT and 1054TV mill.
AWESOME! You'll love them! Can you send me pictures when you get them? My email can be found here: ruclips.net/user/gavintoobeabout
Yes, sir I will. I am waiting for the check to arrive from my bank, I'll deposit and turn around in a cashiers check to PM. Have been corresponding with Nicole there regarding pre-shipping inspection of both machines. The response and willingness to work with customers is refreshing in todays' society. It'll be about 90-days before they will arrive. The machines will travel to Seattle, then on Alaska Marine Lines for shipping to Western Alaska via oceangoing barge. I will have my shop ready for them, and the electrician will be kept up to date so once they're here he can wire my place quickly. I bought the 3-phase 1440GT so I can use a VFD. Your set-up looks ideal regarding collets and workholding. I bought another rollaway toolchest just for this occasion. Really looking forward to this. :) @@Ultimatereloader
Hey Gavin, like I said three months ago; it'd be 90-days. Should be here by next week. Will be a big deal getting them into my shop. Not impossible, but tough. @@Ultimatereloader
Nice video. I have been interested in the 1440 GS. Maybe this is the direction I should take...
I'm no expert but I've seen many tailstock alignment tests & yours is the first where the cross slide is moved after the first cut & then moved back to zero. Seems better as a test for the DRO than for tailstock alignment. You must have seen video's where material is removed between the 2 test cut points so the cross slide is not moved & the test is done just by moving the carriage & turning the 2 major diameters.
Did you ever get a chance to do video on how you mounted the tool trays that you made? I’m getting ready to build some and wanted to see how you had them mounted.
Definitely my dream lathe too! Also, amazing job go the tour. This is the first video I’ve seen of yours and I’m definitely subscribing! 🤙
Looks like a nice machine. Would like to have seen the compass marks up close for the compound slide
Looks like an awesome lathe. I prefer KDK toolholders over Aloris style if you can find a set. When I thread I never use the compound anymore only on difficult materials.
Good review.
You are correct about the improvement of surface finish switching from a single phase to a three phase motor. The single phase motors cog, or accelerate and decelerate somewhat during rotation, and this can transfer to the workpiece when running fast, say 1:1 ratio from motor to workpiece. Also , the reversing function for metric threading on an imperial machine is much better. Have fun with your new purchase.
I really like this lathe. I am busy looking at buying my first lathe and Milling machine. However here in South Africa, I don't think this machine is available. Everything is super pricy here as well. Well that been said I still like the PM Lathe. Thank you for the demo. I liked it.
Great video! You are answering so many questions I've had for a long time. Fantastic setup and manufacturing or your own tools. Looking forward to watching the fundamentals videos!
Loved my old Logan 11",still working to this day! irony was i didnt get a steady rest with my logan either! lol
Awesome!
i`v been waiting too long to pull the trigger on this lathe... this video pulled it for me
thank you so much.
Good deal! I'm sure you'll love the lathe. What do you plan to do with it?
Thanks for sharing this video. I've been eyeballing this lathe for quite some time now. The ways and carriage look really small for a 14-40 lathe. It's really tough to make a decision when you've been running Hardinge toolroom lathes for 35 years. They will spoil you.
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The tool holder are so great.
Excellent video. Great information and insight. Thank you!
Would I be crazy to get into a 1340GT as a first lathe? I have no experience with machining, but have said to myself "If only I had a lathe" hundreds of times. It is quite a hefty investment, but I don't want a machine that I will outgrow in a few years, and there is always money to be made with the proper equipment. Appreciate the quality of the video.
Guna have to come back to this, but wow, your so much more than a reloader and a man with a gun build, you really know your shit. Super impressed!!
Thanks man!!!
How much does it weigh? I want to use it as a bench top. It will be my first lathe
Nice lathe and presentation but I have to poke you just a bit Gavin. When you start an operation please face the piece. I break out in hives when you don't. :-)
15:22 Wind the tailstock barrel out - does it have a slot in the side for ejecting tapers without having to wind the barrel all the way in ? - YES - seen later in the vid.
Have there been any changes to the 2023 models from this video ?
I was wondering the differences between this and the Grizzly 14x40 gunsmith lathes.
@gavintoobe you got any pictures on how you mounted your back accessories shelf? thanks much, love it man
Awesome organization, awesome lathe.
When is the lathe series happening?
Hi. Just found this. Very nice review. I am looking for a new lathe. I’m curious - have you been able to break chips on this lathe - i.e. C’s and 6’s? I only saw birds nests in your review. What surface finishes have you achieved?
Edit: that .200 cut was pretty nice. Looks like it ate that up no probs - could maybe have broken the swarf up with a slightly higher feed? Nice finish too. 👍
Gavin. Please continue demonstrating how to set up & correctly use the lathe from a beginners perspective. I signed up for Gordy Gritter's rifle building & AR Accurizing classes. I'm not suggesting that you reproduce Gordy's material. What I need from (& would like to see on the channel) is a better working knowledge of how to run the lathe from someone with the same aspirations. I hope to purchase the same lathe in the future and have a lot of learning in front of me, so any content demonstrating how to set it up and run it correctly would be especially helpful. I.e. Gordy can teach the gunsmithing, but I'm hoping you can help teach me how to correctly run the lathe. Thank you.