@@binkaram6577 nah older amd cards where a headache i had a few amd cards 5500xt 8gb rx 580 8gb rx5700 and had black screen issues driver issues overheating nah new amd cards are way better
Yup, the big jump in quality canes with the RX 6000 series, the difference is big not only in drivers but in design and philosophy. It's a much better product overall
The biggest issue I've had buying used rx 5000 cards is a rx 5600 xt that was updated with the wrong v-bios. Caused all kinds of stability issues and black/green screens and didn't figure out the cause for almost a year. Shortly after I ended up scooping up a rx 5700 xt of the same model for a good price cause it had a slight cooling issue that was easy to fix. Been using that ever since and I can't complain, it performs great for 1080p and is even somewhat held back by my ryzen 5 5600 in some games. I even bought a couple rx 5500 xt 8gb brand new right before the prices skyrocketed and put them in a little mining rig, ran them lightly for about a year and then sold them in used gaming pc builds.
Dude the 2080s AMP Extreme OC has 4-5% OC from the factory... The base cards never went up to 2 GHz out of the box... Thats a major part of the gains seen here.😂
If you see other rtx 2080 super benchmarks you will see the clocks stay around 1900-2000 MHz and around that. Of course the clocks are higher than the RTX 2080 but that is because the base and turbo are higher, the better binning of the chip and the extra tdp of the card. So yeah, those clocks are normal and make sense for this cards. About the factory OC it may do little to nothing as the clock is calculated by the boosting algorithm by Nvidia and as such the factory clocks have little impact on that, is more about the cooling, power configuration and temperatures. This is easy to prove as the values for all the cards are way over the factory boost speeds.
@@teflonstestbenchGreat explanation. That's why people opt to undervolt and lower their clock by 100-200mhz . it almost certainly will not make any difference. the interesting tidbit i get from this video and others is how AMD cards seems to use more vram to perform at the same reso and settings.
I mean, those are different things, lowering the clock from the slider will just lower the final boosting speed or just lower the curve all together, so it will result in lower clocks while maintaining the same voltage and thus the same power consumption. So yeah, performance wise the impact will be very low, but if you undervolt too that means that you will have nearly the same performance but consuming less power, and that can make a big difference specially on cars that are not optimized that much from the factory.
I dont judge... Just inform, that the 2080 and 2080s usually are around 5% difference in performance according to techpowerup, here we see more like 10% difference between the cards, that is because your 2080 is base spec and your 2080s is factory overclocked by ~5 %. If you would have tested an 2080 with 5% oc (strix oc/amp extreme) vs a 2080s base spec you would find no difference at all
As I said before, look at the clocks the cards are running. The 2080s is only 100mhz faster, as it should be as the 2080 super had a higher base clock, better chip binding and a lot more power headroom compared to the base 2080. It does not matter how much RGB, fans or how big the heatsink is if they are both running at stock. If I overclocked the 2080 super of course I would get much better results than if I overclocked the 2080 as the first is a higher lineup card being an amp extreme than the base 2080 being an MSI ventus, but as stock the model won't matter much even if it had factory OC as the factory OC is nullified by Nvidia GPU boosting technology. As for the tech power up results, those are the results at the launch of each card, from a long time ago with outdated drivers and they give 0 details about how they get to those details or how the cards are running or being compared. Me on the other hand I'm testing both cards with the same drivers and with the latest drivers at this moment, so the results done need to be comparable to them as the tests are running on different games and about 5 years later.
5700xt can easily be undervolted to your liking. The thermals are still really good that thermal difference doesn't matter since it won't degrade at such low temp anyway. And 5700xt goes for 120$ and 2080 200$
@@oskarieeva2326 why didn’t they do it then why the stock voltage so high. The QA for AMD cards are just sus at times. The money you saved is the risk you take for the card failing some day for no reason
@@happybuggy1582 well stock voltage is obviously high so the card is always stable. Secondly idk what you mean with the risk of card not working. There's no history of old amd cards having a shorter lifespan compared to Nvidia. I have been using my 5700xt since launch and it holds the same overclock/umdervolt and memory oc so there's no degradation and the temps literally the same so the thermal paste and pads still work no problem. Tho it's not amd that puts them but the aib
think about it, 5700xt was the competitor of 2070 nvidia and after 4 yrs it's similar to a 2080 they did a great job with driver issues :V
its more pretty much equal to a 2070super rather than a 2080.
5700xt looking well for launch price 400$
2080 - 699$
5700xt now like $100-150 and 2080 over $250 on used market
$150 used GPU AMD smacking Nvidia. Then they did RX6900XT which is faster than 3090 in gaming after driver updates.
good to see my 2080 super still holding up got it for 200 usd with a 550w antec power supply 🙂
My 2080 super slays everything in 1440p and some 4k too!
I mean i found a rx 5700 xt for 110€ today looks brand new whit the original box and no varanty stickers broken meanwhile i see 2080 going for 300€
I get the Value in a 5700 XT so I got one for 140 bucks and man I had so many issues with it
Like?
probably u have bought the used one which was used for mining or ur psu is not sufficient
@@binkaram6577 nah older amd cards where a headache i had a few amd cards 5500xt 8gb rx 580 8gb rx5700 and had black screen issues driver issues overheating nah new amd cards are way better
Yup, the big jump in quality canes with the RX 6000 series, the difference is big not only in drivers but in design and philosophy. It's a much better product overall
The biggest issue I've had buying used rx 5000 cards is a rx 5600 xt that was updated with the wrong v-bios. Caused all kinds of stability issues and black/green screens and didn't figure out the cause for almost a year. Shortly after I ended up scooping up a rx 5700 xt of the same model for a good price cause it had a slight cooling issue that was easy to fix. Been using that ever since and I can't complain, it performs great for 1080p and is even somewhat held back by my ryzen 5 5600 in some games. I even bought a couple rx 5500 xt 8gb brand new right before the prices skyrocketed and put them in a little mining rig, ran them lightly for about a year and then sold them in used gaming pc builds.
can you do 4060 vs 2080 super
Will do next
@@teflonstestbench thanks
Dude the 2080s AMP Extreme OC has 4-5% OC from the factory... The base cards never went up to 2 GHz out of the box... Thats a major part of the gains seen here.😂
If you see other rtx 2080 super benchmarks you will see the clocks stay around 1900-2000 MHz and around that. Of course the clocks are higher than the RTX 2080 but that is because the base and turbo are higher, the better binning of the chip and the extra tdp of the card.
So yeah, those clocks are normal and make sense for this cards. About the factory OC it may do little to nothing as the clock is calculated by the boosting algorithm by Nvidia and as such the factory clocks have little impact on that, is more about the cooling, power configuration and temperatures. This is easy to prove as the values for all the cards are way over the factory boost speeds.
@@teflonstestbenchGreat explanation. That's why people opt to undervolt and lower their clock by 100-200mhz . it almost certainly will not make any difference. the interesting tidbit i get from this video and others is how AMD cards seems to use more vram to perform at the same reso and settings.
I mean, those are different things, lowering the clock from the slider will just lower the final boosting speed or just lower the curve all together, so it will result in lower clocks while maintaining the same voltage and thus the same power consumption. So yeah, performance wise the impact will be very low, but if you undervolt too that means that you will have nearly the same performance but consuming less power, and that can make a big difference specially on cars that are not optimized that much from the factory.
I dont judge... Just inform, that the 2080 and 2080s usually are around 5% difference in performance according to techpowerup, here we see more like 10% difference between the cards, that is because your 2080 is base spec and your 2080s is factory overclocked by ~5 %.
If you would have tested an 2080 with 5% oc (strix oc/amp extreme) vs a 2080s base spec you would find no difference at all
As I said before, look at the clocks the cards are running. The 2080s is only 100mhz faster, as it should be as the 2080 super had a higher base clock, better chip binding and a lot more power headroom compared to the base 2080. It does not matter how much RGB, fans or how big the heatsink is if they are both running at stock. If I overclocked the 2080 super of course I would get much better results than if I overclocked the 2080 as the first is a higher lineup card being an amp extreme than the base 2080 being an MSI ventus, but as stock the model won't matter much even if it had factory OC as the factory OC is nullified by Nvidia GPU boosting technology.
As for the tech power up results, those are the results at the launch of each card, from a long time ago with outdated drivers and they give 0 details about how they get to those details or how the cards are running or being compared. Me on the other hand I'm testing both cards with the same drivers and with the latest drivers at this moment, so the results done need to be comparable to them as the tests are running on different games and about 5 years later.
Nvidia wins again
not really
Worse power consumption, worse thermal, worse fps.
5700xt can easily be undervolted to your liking. The thermals are still really good that thermal difference doesn't matter since it won't degrade at such low temp anyway. And 5700xt goes for 120$ and 2080 200$
@@oskarieeva2326 why didn’t they do it then why the stock voltage so high. The QA for AMD cards are just sus at times. The money you saved is the risk you take for the card failing some day for no reason
@@happybuggy1582 well stock voltage is obviously high so the card is always stable. Secondly idk what you mean with the risk of card not working. There's no history of old amd cards having a shorter lifespan compared to Nvidia. I have been using my 5700xt since launch and it holds the same overclock/umdervolt and memory oc so there's no degradation and the temps literally the same so the thermal paste and pads still work no problem. Tho it's not amd that puts them but the aib