To be honest this scene Is priceless. It shows their intensions and they own view on world and ruleing. So Its actually pretty interesting Conversation
And you can see that osman Is only telling thinks that Murat thought he Felt. For example part with Kösem because murat hated her inside and was Always cruel but Osman in his last minutes of life didnt hate her.
It was exceptional except the sorcery part... the nature of which is going to tell him his future holds negative stuff, so he'll believe it and make it come true (through faith in it) (him killing his brothers).
Actually in Turk languages we say Happiness, welness ,tree been chopped- when turks described a man or someones dynasty been killed dead or vanished,they tell it-in this case the it doesnt mean anything good. We(turk languaged nationalities)believed in divine dreams from spirits of ancestors or relatives who always shows the way and talk to us. Muslims dont believe in spirits. They call it shirk-and it is forbidden by Qoran.But turks ( nott only todays turks from Turkey, but all turk languaged nations as well) were believers to tengri and spirit world first, after islamization, some part of those beliefs still stays with us. So Murad’s dreams show it to us. In that case Murad sees his future-future of his reign and children. Sad.
This is high quality production...the cinematography, the dialogues, the costumes, the acting, the soundtrack...everything is on point. If you want historical accuracy watch documentaries. MC and MCK are TOP!
The life and death of Osman II portrayed in this series moved me to many tears, superb acting, without reading their history, I concluded Osman's immaturity caused him to make many mistakes that cost him his life
@@lpsvevi254 well historically Murad hated Osman for killing his brother Mehmet, he always thinks Osmans cruelty extends to them also as any time Osman will kill them too, murad suffered too much from this that's why he grew up as a tough and heartless sultan
@@prettysurelourd5703 no he didn't hate his brother osman..he loved him and understand him later ..after murad become sultan .. he always remember him ..he take his revenge from every one who caused osman death
Kosem was not blameless, she was partly responsible for what happened as well. Dont forget she was pretty ruthless as well. Speaking of the series Kosem, not the real Kosem in history.
Actually it wasn't osman... It was the reflection of murad's mental conflict. He thinks kosem may dethrone him with the help of army. Osman's last situation put him into a trauma
Kosem is pretty f$$l. She should rule like empress wu of china and appoint one of her child to be crown prince than everything will be good for dynasty. When she die and pass the throne to crown prince and yet she didn't do that or clueless.
The concept of "death-and-rebirth" was first used in the legendary Matrix, where Neo was killed only to come back as the One. But in here, there are so many layers of hidden awesomeness. Water symbolizes purification in Islamic tradition. But Murad drowning in muddy water (after running away from a water stream) is showing that instead of purification he in his rebirth he became a darker version, whose hate no longer was no longer balanced by his heart.
Unfortunately Osman, like Murat, Bayezid, Iskender were influenced by Safiya, Gulbahar and pashas who were bad. Kosem always wanted to stop the fratricide by saving Mustafa and the others but now she left kindness to Halimé, Dilruba, Gulbahar and others who wanted to kill the other children
Love these series. God only knows how many I have watched these. Trouble is the writers/producers hid little gems/things in the film, somewhere in the background, secondary to the main dialogue. I keep finding them left right and centre. Like when Murat got stuck in the mud (obviously led by the other him. He was sinking and sinking, indicating theat the good Murad was drowning in his feelings and finally died.
Excellent observation! Also the part where Osman cut the tree down, that is also a symbolism. The Ottoman founder, Osman I, dreamt that a tree sprung from his chest with many branches, symbolising him being the progenitor of a glorious dynasty. When the younger Osman cut the tree down witnessed by Murad, it is the foretelling that the Ottoman reign was declining and they were responsible for it.
@@muneirovalibas6194 Excellent observations too! I love these kind of films. Also, Ahmed saw a dream about the tree growing out of his body, the night his father died, indicating the same stuff? lots of children?
This was I tough episode for me to understand, I watched it twice trying to understand the symbolism and the sorcerers place in the episode. You could interpret this so many different ways. It was a challenging episode for me.
I'm happy she got told to her face, even when she tries to turn it back on the mother, lady if you hadn't went and gloated and told the mother then it wouldn't have happened.
They are neither rules nor traditions, but necessity of time. To excuse a traitor is to get death yourself in such scenarios. Survival of the fittest in most cases. And it was the same way all around the world. In Europe, Far East, Middle East, Africa etc. Every royal family lost thousands of valuable princes/princesses in battles of ascensions. If a traitor prince was not curbed early, that would result in a civil war in few coming years, which meant more bloodshed. This was the price royals of all dynasties and kingdoms used to pay in return for the life of luxury they lived.
I saw some English history documentary in the past and I think there was once the English had this tradition. Brothers would kill brother for the throne. It all began with one of the king which I forgot the name. He is the first king to kill his brother for the throne. Then his descendent follows and it become a norm. It all started with one bad example and later generation use it by example to justify their action. But at some point they stop.
I have never been addicted something like this coz this is something over acting. I have never felt a movie or drama especially historical creation this much. MC takes the best among best.
I heard simmiliar thing about Moses and Pharaoh from the sufi channel, there is another story' about dream interpretation but in the abbasid era, one of the abbasid Khalifah once dreamed that all of his Teeth are falling down 🥲the first interpreter said that mean all of his brother and family Will death leaving him alone, then he killed the interpreter , then the second interpreter said that the dream Mean the Khalifah Will outlived all of his relatives , poor that first interpreter, people said that is a lesson about how to say something , i don't know about the story' is real or not but i think the hodja basically telling Sultan Murad IV the future in the manner how the second interpreter said that the abbasid Khalifah Will outlived all of his relatives, saying the positif side and hide the bad side 🙄🤔🥲
because Murad never forget how his brother osman the king get killed and how they murder him ... at first he blame him and call him monster and cruel king..but when he become king he understand his brother...osman doesnt desreve that horibble ending...mohmet he wasnot that angel..he himself didnt see osman as sultan and will get rid of him with his mother kosem..
Oh so all sultans are beautiful, good boys, phillosophycal, but at the same time, unfortunate ones. All girls are beautiful but cunning, overly ambitious, cruel. 🤣🤣 Just joking...
To be honest this scene Is priceless. It shows their intensions and they own view on world and ruleing. So Its actually pretty interesting Conversation
And you can see that osman Is only telling thinks that Murat thought he Felt. For example part with Kösem because murat hated her inside and was Always cruel but Osman in his last minutes of life didnt hate her.
It was exceptional except the sorcery part... the nature of which is going to tell him his future holds negative stuff, so he'll believe it and make it come true (through faith in it) (him killing his brothers).
total imaginary scene that has no historical value
Actually in Turk languages we say Happiness, welness ,tree been chopped- when turks described a man or someones dynasty been killed dead or vanished,they tell it-in this case the it doesnt mean anything good. We(turk languaged nationalities)believed in divine dreams from spirits of ancestors or relatives who always shows the way and talk to us. Muslims dont believe in spirits. They call it shirk-and it is forbidden by Qoran.But turks ( nott only todays turks from Turkey, but all turk languaged nations as well) were believers to tengri and spirit world first, after islamization, some part of those beliefs still stays with us. So Murad’s dreams show it to us.
In that case Murad sees his future-future of his reign and children. Sad.
This is high quality production...the cinematography, the dialogues, the costumes, the acting, the soundtrack...everything is on point. If you want historical accuracy watch documentaries. MC and MCK are TOP!
The life and death of Osman II portrayed in this series moved me to many tears, superb acting, without reading their history, I concluded Osman's immaturity caused him to make many mistakes that cost him his life
He's a child, the fact that he was let to make many foolish actions tell a lot of his incompetent ministers and advisors
No man he wanted to restore order but janissaries killed him as restoring order would mean end of their power
The reasons for Osman fall are numerous both factors inside and outside of his control
@@abdullahraheem4574actually, he wanted to reform the military, and that's why he ended up loosing his life.
Great explanation 😊
Osman😍😍😍
The historical facts are off but, this is some very good production value. Bravo to the writer's and actor's. This is my new addiction.
Yeah Its good serie, only the historical parte, but if we look at It from difrent side, they didnt have a choice because It had to be drama After all
Mate. I got addicted to these series a year ago, still can’t get off 🤣
@@dillongabriel1539
Aha. Look at the timing. What 20 min? You replied to that guy within 3 min.
@@lpsvevi254 well historically Murad hated Osman for killing his brother Mehmet, he always thinks Osmans cruelty extends to them also as any time Osman will kill them too, murad suffered too much from this that's why he grew up as a tough and heartless sultan
@@prettysurelourd5703 no he didn't hate his brother osman..he loved him and understand him later ..after murad become sultan .. he always remember him ..he take his revenge from every one who caused osman death
Soul of Osman speaks Murad thru Socerrer
It is quite evident from the conversation between Osman and Murad that Osman never understood Kosem and her intentions!
Kosem was not blameless, she was partly responsible for what happened as well. Dont forget she was pretty ruthless as well.
Speaking of the series Kosem, not the real Kosem in history.
@@muneirovalibas6194 in real life she was pretty cruel as well because of the ambition she had for the throne.
Actually it wasn't osman... It was the reflection of murad's mental conflict. He thinks kosem may dethrone him with the help of army. Osman's last situation put him into a trauma
Kosem is pretty f$$l. She should rule like empress wu of china and appoint one of her child to be crown prince than everything will be good for dynasty. When she die and pass the throne to crown prince and yet she didn't do that or clueless.
This is not Osman talking to Murat. It’s Murat talking to Murat.
Loved this episode! Since chopping of trees signified uprooting. Excellent!
The concept of "death-and-rebirth" was first used in the legendary Matrix, where Neo was killed only to come back as the One. But in here, there are so many layers of hidden awesomeness. Water symbolizes purification in Islamic tradition. But Murad drowning in muddy water (after running away from a water stream) is showing that instead of purification he in his rebirth he became a darker version, whose hate no longer was no longer balanced by his heart.
Wow
Matrix ooh I'm studying cytology and your comment made me realise that I should get off my phone and study 😐
@@xianxiannn come back to the phone now its a long time studying 📖 🙃
8 months? Take some rest now hehe
@@hellomoto1426 bruh by now I've already finished the school year and succeeded in biology and the new school year is starting in less than a week lol
@@xianxiannnwhat are you upto now ? Hopefully you know about the matrix and matrices 😂
Sultan Osman ❤️
So sultan osman was not dead right plzzzzz explain me
@@eshabaig3086 what ? wait I'm confused
@@eshabaig3086 yes he is dead sultan murad* was only imagine him
@@eshabaig3086 watch the freaking show
@@eshabaig3086 sultan osman is dead and this is an imagination of murad
Both are amazing actor ❤❤❤
best ever ever ever episode about the reality that we are our own enemy
Him dragging around the logs reminds me of Marley from a Christmas Carol dragging around the chains he had got the life he lead
I felt sorry for Osman. But he murdered Mehmet, the oldest son of Kosem. Mehmet was so young.
And just think, their father had banished the fratricide
Unfortunately Osman, like Murat, Bayezid, Iskender were influenced by Safiya, Gulbahar and pashas who were bad. Kosem always wanted to stop the fratricide by saving Mustafa and the others but now she left kindness to Halimé, Dilruba, Gulbahar and others who wanted to kill the other children
Love these series. God only knows how many I have watched these. Trouble is the writers/producers hid little gems/things in the film, somewhere in the background, secondary to the main dialogue. I keep finding them left right and centre. Like when Murat got stuck in the mud (obviously led by the other him. He was sinking and sinking, indicating theat the good Murad was drowning in his feelings and finally died.
Excellent observation! Also the part where Osman cut the tree down, that is also a symbolism. The Ottoman founder, Osman I, dreamt that a tree sprung from his chest with many branches, symbolising him being the progenitor of a glorious dynasty. When the younger Osman cut the tree down witnessed by Murad, it is the foretelling that the Ottoman reign was declining and they were responsible for it.
@@muneirovalibas6194 Excellent observations too! I love these kind of films. Also, Ahmed saw a dream about the tree growing out of his body, the night his father died, indicating the same stuff? lots of children?
@@Mad.Chemist not lots of children it was indicaindicating he is in power now
I would hate to be the wardrobe manager on this episode.
A powerful scene.
Usman was so humiliated even kosem had a humiliated death
Everyone die the way their Destiny has in account for them. Osman death was humiliation but kosem's death wasn't. She was a survivor.
@@ojasvashishtha4453 I started hating kosem for poisoning murad , her lion son .
This was I tough episode for me to understand, I watched it twice trying to understand the symbolism and the sorcerers place in the episode. You could interpret this so many different ways. It was a challenging episode for me.
😭Vay, bu kısım bitmez, Osman'ın zuhuruyla 🔥
In one word: awesome
I'm happy she got told to her face, even when she tries to turn it back on the mother, lady if you hadn't went and gloated and told the mother then it wouldn't have happened.
Прекрасный Осман ❤
Que bien trabajan todos los actores y el manejo de camaras parece exelente
6:47 how tables have turned 😂😂
Nasıl bi oyunculuk 😮😮😮😮❤❤❤
That rules and tradition to killing they own Brother is such horrible 😫
They are neither rules nor traditions, but necessity of time.
To excuse a traitor is to get death yourself in such scenarios. Survival of the fittest in most cases. And it was the same way all around the world. In Europe, Far East, Middle East, Africa etc.
Every royal family lost thousands of valuable princes/princesses in battles of ascensions. If a traitor prince was not curbed early, that would result in a civil war in few coming years, which meant more bloodshed. This was the price royals of all dynasties and kingdoms used to pay in return for the life of luxury they lived.
I saw some English history documentary in the past and I think there was once the English had this tradition. Brothers would kill brother for the throne. It all began with one of the king which I forgot the name. He is the first king to kill his brother for the throne. Then his descendent follows and it become a norm. It all started with one bad example and later generation use it by example to justify their action. But at some point they stop.
and that was when it wasn't Islamic anymore, they set themselves up for that decline, forgot just what they were fighting for.
Not the case with Mughals, rulers were overthrow n imprisoned most of thevtine
Hang on Murad fell off the horse and was able to get up in 5 mins??!! Damn!!
😉 it was in the script.
Murad is having a hallucination after falling from the horse, in which he is able to walk and can talk to his dead brother.
Watch the freaking show
@@natalijaaksoj3867 I did watch the show!! And listened to the guitar riffs when there was action!!!🤣🤣🤣
@@Femmefatale32000lol
What a scene ❤❤
Sultan Murat ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The only cause for me to watch this movie after late ahmed and kosem wad osman
Murad was tough hansome but died too early
Love this series
I have never been addicted something like this coz this is something over acting. I have never felt a movie or drama especially historical creation this much. MC takes the best among best.
So based on the thumbnail dying isn't the worst thing that can happen to you
what is that chapter?, please
Both of them killed their brothers
Thats how the dynasty fell down eventually and the rules were the same killing the brothers or son and the one left will come to the throne
And that is a sin out of my comprehension!
I heard simmiliar thing about Moses and Pharaoh from the sufi channel, there is another story' about dream interpretation but in the abbasid era, one of the abbasid Khalifah once dreamed that all of his Teeth are falling down 🥲the first interpreter said that mean all of his brother and family Will death leaving him alone, then he killed the interpreter , then the second interpreter said that the dream Mean the Khalifah Will outlived all of his relatives , poor that first interpreter, people said that is a lesson about how to say something , i don't know about the story' is real or not but i think the hodja basically telling Sultan Murad IV the future in the manner how the second interpreter said that the abbasid Khalifah Will outlived all of his relatives, saying the positif side and hide the bad side 🙄🤔🥲
Aren't you already 🥺🥺
Sultan osman ❤❤
Was these sultans' life so miserable nd sad as depicted in this series?
Murad is under itachi uchica genjutsu
Pobre caballo!el freno que le pusieron! Eso no se ve en ningun lado;es como si le fuera a cortar la lengua,sino' no tendria la boca tan abierta!
Who watched to the end like this comment
The ottoman princess/ Sehzades were living terrible lives.
Alt yazi daha iyi olabilirdi, dur olmus "paraaa"?
what episode is it
47
24:00
Fake fortune teller.the one and only who knows the future is almighty allah
Dejan poco para inmaginacion
Why is Fariyah without head covering?
They forgot that ottoman are muslim
Osman waqai mn zinda tha ya ye sirf Murad ki imagination hy ?
Imagination
Ye kn sa season hai
@@quranwithqirrat2669 second
wow
Why Murad hated her mother Kosem ?
Because she always stood against his decisions and wasn't letting him to rule peacefully
Because she always make decisions behind his back
While he is the sultan
She wanna be the real sultan while she's just his mothee
Plz Hindi upload
No
Yeh urdue upload hoga but thhoda wait krna hoga
Today apload first episode on Urdu 1 channel
You can watched every day on Urdu 1
Lots of countries bought the series but I think India was not one of them. Pakistan bought it so its available in urdu .
E osman konse osman hain?
Osman 2 son of Sultan Ahmed 1
Born year : 1603
Osman was killed by Davud pasha then again how is he alive!!
Murat is hallucinating this is not real
what the meaning since osman is dead
because Murad never forget how his brother osman the king get killed and how they murder him ... at first he blame him and call him monster and cruel king..but when he become king he understand his brother...osman doesnt desreve that horibble ending...mohmet he wasnot that angel..he himself didnt see osman as sultan and will get rid of him with his mother kosem..
Ali vefa
Plz hindi me upload kare
On air two seasons in 2017 repeat on air kosem sultan season one ended and yesterday season two 👆 started Urdu 1 RUclips channel
It's Urdu not Hindi 👣🤮🤢🤢
Murad🫶🥺🌺
Oh so all sultans are beautiful, good boys, phillosophycal, but at the same time, unfortunate ones.
All girls are beautiful but cunning, overly ambitious, cruel.
🤣🤣
Just joking...
I don't understand
watch kosem sultan on urdu 1
@@_silly_ in hindi
It's a symbolism.
Nice 😡😡😡
Ye tu mar gaya tha🙄
Yeh khwab hai
@@syedabdulrahman1990 oh thnks ye kya keh raha the
Ye kn sa season hai
@@quranwithqirrat2669 2nd season
Yeh murad ki rooh ki bat h
is it ghost ?