Why would anyone brag about having so much oil that their great-grandchildren have a lifetime supply? Instead of generational wealth, it’s generational oil.
As someone In recovery from a very serious fentanyl addiction I truly appreciate you calling this out. When you first get clean you’re looking for purpose and a chance to prove yourself and this is so unacceptable for her to do.
I have no idea who you are, and you have no idea who I am, but I’m proud of you for trying your best. Addiction is more difficult to overcome than anyone will realise, so well done, and take care of yourself 💛
I am so proud of you! As a meth addict of over a decade with over 23 years' recovery I know how hard it is. Agreed that # heroinaddiction woman is really gross. Like wtf.
I work in a gas station, I have a regular customer who I've had for about 6 years who is in the process of recovery, she has my phone number and I've seen her go through a lot, but as somebody who lost a sibling to addiction I have a special place in my heart for people who are struggling, so I don't judge and I love them unconditionally. One day my customer came in and was telling me about how she's been clean for 6 months on that day, I told her I'm proud of her and we started talking about life, unbeknownst to us there was another customer in the store listening to our conversation, she always stepped aside when another customer came up and we'd continue after the customer left, but this customer was different, she mentioned how she "overheard" the conversation and how her aunt's husband's daughter was going through addiction and the only thing that helped her was being charge of her own life, by investing in herself and starting her own business, I was internally rolling my eyes knowing where it was going, I was surprised that my customer (first one) said, no thank you I don't do MLM's! didn't give this lady the opportunity to even say the name of it, the hun was stunned and retorted, it's not an MLM it's a business opportunity we do social selling. My first customer said, if it sounds like an MLM and if it looks like a MLM it's likely a MLM and I'm not interested, I let out an audible laugh and the hun paid for her things and left. I started talking to customer 1 again and she said, she didn't know anything about MLM's before but started watching this blond lady on RUclips and learned so much about how to beware of them, I asked her what the RUclipsrs name was and she pulled out her phone and it was you! I laughed and said I have been following you for a year now and we talked about how kind you are even to huns who you always give grace to.. best conversation this week! I kinda hope she reads this in your comments too but I really wanted to say you make a difference in a small town in southern Michigan
That’s awesome! Good for you! Also, fellow Southern Michigan gal here! Growing up in a small town, I didn’t know anything about MLMs. Some out of town friends tried getting me to sell for them, but I’ve always wanted to sell my own hand made things and not something that another large company has made.
That oil hun really thought she was doing something using Elyse Myers lifetime supply sound. All she was showing was probably 10’s of thousands of dollars WASTED. Especially considering Elyse was talking about being freaked out by lifetime supplies of anything haha
See, that's what I thought they were doing, saying that they have no need for owning that much product as a "shame on me" kind of statement. I didn't know the voice speaking wasn't the person who made the video, but the contradiction between what the MLM rep wanted to convey and the message I got from it is hilarious 😂
Substance abuse counselor here. The recruiting post targeted at individuals with substance use disorders is absolutely disgusting. One thing common to see in recovery is “process addictions” ie gambling, sex, work, exercise etc. The high is transferred to something more socially acceptable. That person either fell victim to it or is very calculated. Absolutely abhorrent. All my love to the recovery community and people on their journey to it. We do recover ❤
YES!!! My husband is an LCDC and he got pissed when he overheard that. It’s disgusting. She is purposely setting up vulnerable people for failure, offering a “dream life”. Ugh
@Angie Christine Fitness that is why I wrote expire is in "". If they aren't already diluted in carrier oil, they may last a little longer, but if diluted, the oil will go rancid. Then it smells like rancid oiled flowers.
@@angiechristinefitnessYes, essential oils expire. Most have a shelf life of about 2 years if kept in optimum conditions - ie a cool dark place. And you cannot always tell when an oil has gone rancid.
My brother worked at a gas station, some Avon lady dropped off an order form, they threw it away and she came back like uh I need that back. And they were like we don't have it?? And she was like oh. Girl what did you expect 😭 why do they do this
@@tarajh It's an order form. She wanted it back to place the order. The gas station employees didn't fill it out because they didn't want anything, so the hun isn't getting commission.
Bruh, I love Avon bra for real. 🥹🥹 lols, my neighbor is a member of Avon and as a good neighbor, i purchased most of my undies from her brochure. I don’t like their make up products though. This is of course assuming that Avon in my country is same as Avon in the US. 😆
@@Telltalesign I was thinking the same thing. I'm from Romania,and here we don't have that door to door sale practice. Avon was really popular when I was growing up but my experience with it is: you have an aquaintance or a friend who has the brochure, you know that they can order for you, you ask to browse through the catalog and if you want to buy something, you tell them and they place the order for you. But I guess they are very predatory in the US, making you feel bad if you don't want to order their products, yuck! I understand how that is off-putting
As a former addict this made me make my first comment. I am going on 3 years clean on Oct 19th 2024. And this pissed me off. As a recovering addict, she should know you can become ADDICTED to ANYTHING. Not just drugs. Shame on her and what she posted. Thank you Hannah for showing this. I've been watching you for a few weeks after I found you. ❤❤❤
When I was younger, I loved the Avon booklets! They seemed so fancy & pretty, so as a kid & teen I loved seeing them. They would be left in waiting rooms & staff rooms, door to door - very old school!
I’ve worked hard to eradicate that word from my vocabulary. It’s used negatively as a minimizer in most situations but I do agree that the phrase “Just $5!” Has a great sound 😂😊😊😊
As someone who was briefly in Avon long ago, they probably left an Avon catalog. Avon calls them "brochures" but they are full catalogs. There is no order form with the brochure, it just has the rep's phone number/email/website on the back for placing an order. It's very old school. I suspect those Avon reps were asking for the brochures back on their own because they paid at least a couple bucks for each one and probably aren't making anything back from their investment.
This reminds me that I NEED to send you my recovery faker horror story! I’ve started to typing it up a few times but always get overcome by anger. But that MLM fail was just the boost I needed to remind me how important it is for people in recovery to be aware of this stuff so they don’t fall prey to it.
When I get mad, I type it out and let it sit. Come back in a few days and maybe you can fix it then. But first I have to get the anger out. I don't care about spelling, grammar, or anything. Just go with the flow, then let it rest. It is amazing what happens to your mental frame of mind. It is already down, now just clean it up. I now do the same thing with texts. If I get irritated at someone, I type it out. Let it sit in draft form, then a day later, revisit it and probably remove a few sentences, and then maybe send it. Then usually there are no emotions or regrets. Just my way of dealing with irritating people.
Everytime she said small investment, I wanted to snap. $200 to mostly everyone is a lot! That's my phone bill +, my electric bill +, & it's just $25 shy of being half of my rent. That's a huge investment! & if it went south, most wouldn't recover from it. I hate the false positive promotion, it's disgusting entrapment
Seeing all those oils gave me anxiety. Almost 2 years ago I bought a set of oils from a non mlm company. I have only emptied two bottles…I bought a large set. I can’t imagine being required to buy more each month.
It Gave me anxiety too. I have patchouli and frankincense bottles that used almost everyday for a little over two years: they are like not even half empty yet
I feel like that's the reason they push huns to use oils in foods and other unsafe ways. If you're just using them for aromatherapy a bottle can last months, and you only need to grab two or three of your favorite scents.
Gosh I wish I found these videos this time last year. Thank you for everything that you've done. I was/am a part of Monat and I've tried leaving before but felt so guilty about it so I went back. However, watching your videos makes me realise I need out!!
Hi I don't usually comment but just wanted to say here in the UK Amaway and other such companies always leave a brochure and a note saying when they will pick it up even if you didn't order. If you don't leave it out they keep ringing the bell.
The Avon brochure in the letterbox trick is suuuuper old school. I remember it used to happen life 30 years ago when I was a kid. I guess it harks back to the old "door to door Avon lady" days. One thing you didn't touch on, is that they're expecting you to put the brochure back in your box, at which time they GO INTO YOUR MAILBOX to fish out their brochure. When i was a kid none of us had locks on our mailboxes so I guess anyone could technically do that. But it seems such an invasion to have some random seller expecting I'd let them fossick around in my mail to get their spam back!!
Yes! Some lady put an Avon booklet/catalog in my mailbox, and it went right in the garbage where it belongs! That lady kept coming back to my apartment asking for it back and berating me for throwing it away! Ma'am you relinquished junk mail in MY mailbox, you get what you get with that risk! I told her trash day was in 1 day, and it's somewhere in the recycling bin. Help yourself!😂
Fast forward to Avon lady digging in the recycling bin for her brochure....I got sucked into Avon and lost about $500 because of brochures and samples and low sales. Why do they think anyone will keep buying cosmetics every month? And with drugstore cosmetics coming in hot, their market is miniscule.
Omg I had this problem in my neighborhood, but the Avon rep was someone important in another field, I needed to network with her, so it worked out that I got brownie points for getting the catalog back to her. But it was so weird, like lady, you're a very respected professional, this is not the side hustle you want. And you gotta just accept that losses are high with brochures and catalogs.
Avon was pretty big in my country in the early 20s. They had tons of girl teenagers as rep. Most of the girls in high-school was a rep. Of course they were not hired. Was all illegal.
I'm in the UK and those Avon catalogue drops are rife here!! I throw them straight away. One time an Avon lady came knocking on my door asking for her catalogue back, the absolute cheek of these people
It isn't an absolute cheek - they are just trying to earn some money, and brochure dropping was how sales used to be done, pre -interenet. I was an Avon rep many years ago, anda fter posting a brochure into a letter box the resident threatened to smash my head and my young son's head in with a hammer (he was with me on the brochure drop). He said I had woken him up just being putting the brochure in the letter box. I had to call the police, and he was arrested. I'm not sure why you think it's fine to laugh or abuse people doing this. If you'd have told me when I was rep that you'd binned it and were not interested, I'd have crossed off your address and never come back.
ohh dear, that recovery one is rough. I’m 5+ years sober myself, but I used to be heavily addicted to intravenous “H” and “C” - I lost my brother and several of my closest friends to it before I was able to turn the page myself, and I’m super lucky to even be alive. Hearing the way this person is using recovery to pitch their “opportunity” might be the slimiest, downright _gross_ things I’ve heard YET on this channel (and as everyone knows, the competition is fierce!) In terms of the prospective audience’s vulnerability, one big factor is that severe addiction tends to up-end one’s career: you lose your job, and it becomes increasingly difficult to find and keep employment, so once you are IN recovery and trying to put your life back together, you might have big gaps in your work history / resume, and then it’s even MORE difficult to find legitimate, gainful employment. Somebody in that position might be more inclined to see these kinds of “be your own boss” MLM pitches as their only option to earn a living, and be more susceptible to it. So sketchy D:
I think the definition of an MLM is when your success is directly connected to RECRUITMENT. (If you don't recruit, you only sell products, you can't succeed)
In the 90s we had an "Avon Lady" & I recall the catalogue being delivered in a tiny plastic bag that said something along the lines of "whether ordering or not, please leave this at your doorstep & I will collect. Thanks".
The avon thing is *extremely* common in the uk. Ours used to come in a sandwich bag (to protect from rain) with the note saying when to leave it on your doorstep for collection
I never did the door to door, but I remember filling little sandwich bags with brochures and samples to leave around. Definitely spent more than I made.
@maryeckel9682 yeah finding out this was an MLM was very enlightening and I felt bad realising any orders I placed must have kept my neighbours in it longer 😔 that's why this type of content is so important
I had a friend that went through a rough patch after the birth of her first child and had to quit her job. She got roped into the LuLa Roe scam while she was recovering and it almost broke them financially. My mom almost got roped into Young Living a few years ago as well. Thankfully she asked me to look into it first before she got in too deep and when I showed her it was a scam she dipped out, but it's crazy how skeezy these companies are. I have known several people who have literally been destroyed by these companies. They prey on good, well meaning, hard working people and wreck their lives.
YL former hun here. We were encouraged from our uplines to purchase as much product as possible to have more personal experiences with the products and more testimonies and be able to sell more. The hype is unreal for every seasonal product launch and that conference thing they do each year where many reps easily spend 1k. And every month there is a special freebies where if you spend so much, you get free product. The highest tier was $400 and we were always encouraged by uplines that if we were serious about our biz we would hit that 400 tier mark because we could more experiences, more stories, more selling points and it was a fast track to the top to spend more money and have more product. I could never afford that though, thankfully. Also they use all that product as rank gifts and incentives to their downlines and as samples to lure in new people.
So glad I've found your channel!! I joined doTERRA years ago just to get the oils wholesale. (I never knew it was an MLM and I really like the oils 😂) My friend had a party and thankfully,I never heard from the hun afterwards other than to ask if I liked the oils. I guess her heart wasn't in it. 😂
My grandmother used to do Avon. Their glossy little 25-35 page magazines where you got the order form and product numbers were always charged for. You were told not to leave them unattended because people tended to throw them out so... Avon couple, you effed up.
yayyyy Hi hannah from Australia!!! i’ve been saving ur videos to binge while i’ve been in recovery after a hospital issue the other week ❤ glad to have u back and can’t wait to watch!! also have u ever thought about doing a deep dive on those get rich quick courses? could be a fun idea !
Ariana, hoping your recovery goes well. Hannah, sounds very interesting, but I’m sure I speak for many of your fans when I say no need for deep dives until you feel ready 😊
Post # 2 literally makes me sick. As someone in recovery from a serious drug and alcohol addiction, this is so predatory and disgusting. No business or person is going to get or keep you sober. This disease is real and tragic and people die every day from the lack of help and information available. I just found out my friend passed away last night and he was previously sober. I cannot even count the number of friends I've lost in recovery to this disease. None of them would have lived because they joined this or any mlm. I hope the person who sent you this is doing ok and I'll be thinking of them 💗
Avon does charge for those catalogs which is crazy! I worked w an older lady who casually sold it. She would let ppl know she sold it in case you wanted to look at the catalog. or buy something (like Skin So Soft- popular item & you could only get thru a rep). I remember her saying she needed catalog back as she PAID for it. I was shocked as this was over 20 years ago & it was still common for companies to mail large catalogs to millions of homes. For Avon to charge for janky, mini catalogs or not give you a few free ones before charging was a CASH GRAB. At this time IKEA was still mailing out their thick, heavy catalogs for free so it made NO sense
For the last one, why didn't they include that card with the catalogue initially? Why would they wait a week to tell people they wanted them back, when most people would have already thrown them away by then?
Hannah I know you are a big advocate for the anti Mlm community, but so far you are one of the only ones who isn’t awful, a lot of them are petty and mean, you are a shining star and I wish all the rest of them would take a page from your book. ❤️
Hannah, I recently came across your channel and love binging the influencer and MLM content! I have never experienced an MLM before or knew much about it. It is so crazy how I started binging your content and then yesterday experienced a recruiter at Walmart for what I assume is an MLM company. I was in the medicine aisle minding my business and this nice woman struck up a conversation with me complimenting my bag. We start chatting about how we are new to the city, and she asks where I work. I tell her I work in the neighboring city, and she points out how that commute seems long. She asks me what I do and I tell her my profession and then she says she works in business marketing helping people transform their time for money. So because I have been educated by you, I immediately started to realize what she was trying to do. She asked if I liked my job and if I didn't she had a business opportunity I could be a part of. I told her I liked my job but thanks for offering and then we went our separate ways. That was so weird to me!! had I not been educated by your content maybe I would have been intrigued or something lol but thankfully not. Just wanted to share this story lol!
Had so many of those Avon catalogues put through my door over the years that and betterware were rampant over here in U.K. they were always knocking on the doors asking for them back if I remembered I put them out on the doorstep but I didn’t always,used to drive me mad.
Oh I've absolutely had someone use the "you can be your own boss" phrase word for word in a fake interview. Granted he was an old man in World Financial Group and I was a fresh out of uni job hunter, so he probably thought I wasn't aware of it.
Unfortunately, I did Avon for a while. No, I never made any money, lol. I don't know how it works in the US but in the UK there's almost no emphasis on recruiting but,we were charged for the catalogues/brochures, it really ate into your “commission”.
There is a huge emphasis on recruiting in Avon UK now. Back in the late 90s, early 00s, you were given a patch to work with no emphasis on recruiting, but that's all changed, the assigned areas are gone and it's recruit, recruit, recruit! They will also damage your credit rating now, as when you sign up they don't tell you that you are opening a credit account.
Love your videos! I'm glad you mixed that one up with a little humor because taking advantage of people when they're down is rage inducing for me! Like the Mary Kay rep who tried to recruit at the local women's shelter! Disgusting!!!
I know this is an old video, but you talking about how potent the Young Living oils are reminded me of when I was helping a Young Living rep at one of my old jobs (in a chocolate shop, where the entire store does in fact smell like chocolate). She smelled absolutely RANK with essential oils omg. I'm not particularly sensitive to scents but I had such a headache. The EO stench lingered as well for at least an hour, drowning out any scent of chocolate one would hope to smell upon entering a chocolate shop. (I knew she was a YL rep because she was wearing a YL branded jacket). Idk how much oil she was wearing, or how she was using it, but my god I couldn't believe it.
22:18 - The FTC doesn't even investigate MLMs until they have been around for 7 years. (At least that is what I have been told 100s of times at Amway conferences. They used this as a flex to explain why "new" MLMs couldn't be trusted and to show how awesome Amway is." So, yeah, they could 100% be a pyramid without getting caught.
I bought a set of oils (non mlm) to make custom scents with and I could smell it before opening- a new unopened kit. I made some oil combinations with a roller bottle and diluting them and it was a lot cheaper than mlm stuff.
I didn't read all 500 comments, but I read a bunch. I'm suprised that there aren't MLM cultists in here defending the industry or the company. Maybe it's just here on YT. Everywhere else, for many years, I've always seen them come on with guns blazing, trying to convince, and trying like hell to compare their model to legitimate businesses.
I had a similar experience with an Avon rep a few months ago! They shoved their catalogue through my mailslot and put on it "I'll be around at x time to pick this up!" Side note, I work nights and I don't remember exactly when she came by but it was in the middle of the day when I was asleep. I have a sign on my door saying not to knock as I will be sleeping, definitely didn't deter her. I grumpily threw the stupid thing at her and told her to take her pyramid scheme elsewhere and let me sleep. She wasn't impressed lol
I am a postal carrier and hate delivering Young living packages... something is always leaking in the and there isnt a spot far ebough away in my truck for it to be bearable. That package usually gets delivered first thing to get it out of my truck
Thank you, Hannah, for being such a fantastic RUclipsr and a fantastic person! I feel like I have watched you for forever and you truly are as good a person irl as you are in your vids. Nothing but positivity and love! TY ❤
The whole “be your own boss” when you literally have to have an up line, like sure you’re not dealing with the ceo god of whatever pyramid they’re in but they still answer to their up line! ESPECIALLY if they are one of the few “successful” sellers! You still have a “boss”, I truly would love to be a fly on the wall of these reps once they turn off the camera, like do they hate themselves or do they truly believe in the bullshit that they just spat into the camera.
Lol that last one…. I had something similar happen to me as well. I live with my fiancé and his dad… well I got home from work one day and his dad handed me a Avon packet. The lady that lives 3 houses down from us apparently is in that company and she talked to my FIL and told him “I noticed there’s a young girl living here, would you give this to her and have her buy something from me?” I literally started laughing so hard I cried a little. (I was a little excited that I had an encounter with an mlm) My FIL was confused and asked me what was going on and I explained to him what a mlm is and how the company that lady works for is one. He straight up said “we’re throwing this away” 🤣🥳 He told me what the lady looks like and her name so that if she ever tries to stop me on my way into the house, I will be prepared to come up with a story to get out of it🤣
Targeting recovering addicts is a well known tactic to get people to convert one lifestyle sublimation for another. To create converts that make the in-group their new identity.
$200 is about what i spend on groceries rn so this is for a whole month (almost no space for food since i share my space with a few other people, all buying our own groceries)
My friend used to do Avon and she had to spend so much money on brochures etc. She genuinely wanted the brochures back because she couldn't afford them. Luckily she eventually realised this was a ridiculous business and left.
Hi Hannah, I really enjoy your videos! I am fromt the UK, and it is common practice here for Avon people to leave catalogues to order here. I don't actually know if it is an MLM here, but Avon is well known here for having the catalogues.
Here in the uk every Avon brochure I’ve had comes with a slip saying please leave outside to collect with an order form inside I was always confused why they wanted them back without an order but the rep being charged for them makes sense 😂
I have intermittent insomnia. When it’s bad, I’ll listen to my phone (under my pillow) to a wide range of topics. I usually drift off to sleep from the distraction. I made the mistake of choosing this video. My blood is boiling! No way can I sleep. I’m typing this comment at 3:19AM! This was a mistake. This video is so excellent at exposing the few things I despise in this world: dishonesty and predation! And one more thing: that voice around 14:20! I don’t know which is worse what she’s says or how she says it. I feel like I need a shower; and I want to yell at Drew Barrymore for some reason…I mean like, really, like.
So expensive and you have to join, of course... I saw something several years ago and curiously looked them up. Yikes, no thanks. 🙄 Thanks for the content yet again, Hannah! I hope that you and AJ are enjoying being Mommy and Daddy to Miss Harper Leona ❤️
I saw a pampered chef booth at my towns pride celebration today and I was so excited to point it out to my boyfriend and say “that’s a mlm!!”😅 never understood what mlm was until I started watching your videos and now I see/hear about them everywhere!!!
Watching this while nursing my week old daughter. Thank you for continuing to post content. I hope you and baby are well and that you’re recovering well :)
I love this channel, no constant cussing, professional and kind, some of these kind of channels have such a attitude I can’t watch them even though I like the content, I just don’t do the mean thing 🤷♀️
Young living tells their consultants that the oils don't go bad, that they never expire. That's why she thinks that she can load up and have a "lifetime supply" and hand these down to her grandchildren and great grandchildren.
It's not surprising that someone would bring up an MLM right after referencing ideas from the 12 Step movement. 12S is not dissimilar to an MLM, especially in its early literature.
We are not a pyramid, said the pyramid, pyramiding pyramidally.
I love comments that make me spit out my coffee in the morning 😆
Okay, that got a laugh out of me
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we are not a scam said the scam scaming scamdally akskks You Made me laugh
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Why would anyone brag about having so much oil that their great-grandchildren have a lifetime supply? Instead of generational wealth, it’s generational oil.
And not even the kind of oil that can make you massively wealthy, this is just wasteful, lol. It'll expire before the grandkids are even born 😂
Creating oily wealth 😂😂
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley ughh imagine growing up thinking you're an oil heir and then you find out what the actual oil is 😂😂😂
That is so gross.
"Mmmm rancid oil... Thanks grandma"
As someone In recovery from a very serious fentanyl addiction I truly appreciate you calling this out. When you first get clean you’re looking for purpose and a chance to prove yourself and this is so unacceptable for her to do.
Congratulations on your recovery journey! May you find strength and peace!
I’m so happy that you are in recovery! You deserve only the best. Recovery takes strength most people will never understand. Congratulations! ❤
I have no idea who you are, and you have no idea who I am, but I’m proud of you for trying your best. Addiction is more difficult to overcome than anyone will realise, so well done, and take care of yourself 💛
That's genuinely incredible, I'm so proud of you. I hope that your journey continues smoothly and that you live your life to the fullest ❤
I am so proud of you! As a meth addict of over a decade with over 23 years' recovery I know how hard it is. Agreed that # heroinaddiction woman is really gross. Like wtf.
It’s a triangle scheme. They don’t make enough revenue for three dimensions
Lmfao ok I honestly loved this! 😂😂😂
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Lmao
Nothing says “I’m not a pyramid scheme” like explaining for fifteen minutes how you’re not a pyramid scheme
100% right.
Question 1: have you ever spent $200 on something that your didn't really need?
Question 2: wOuLd YoU LiKe To?
😂😂😂 i was answering no to all the questions but she pitched anyways. just like real life
Lol the kid coughing in the background as she shows off her cleaning supplies
I just thought the same thing 😅 oops!
I work in a gas station, I have a regular customer who I've had for about 6 years who is in the process of recovery, she has my phone number and I've seen her go through a lot, but as somebody who lost a sibling to addiction I have a special place in my heart for people who are struggling, so I don't judge and I love them unconditionally.
One day my customer came in and was telling me about how she's been clean for 6 months on that day, I told her I'm proud of her and we started talking about life, unbeknownst to us there was another customer in the store listening to our conversation, she always stepped aside when another customer came up and we'd continue after the customer left, but this customer was different, she mentioned how she "overheard" the conversation and how her aunt's husband's daughter was going through addiction and the only thing that helped her was being charge of her own life, by investing in herself and starting her own business, I was internally rolling my eyes knowing where it was going, I was surprised that my customer (first one) said, no thank you I don't do MLM's! didn't give this lady the opportunity to even say the name of it, the hun was stunned and retorted, it's not an MLM it's a business opportunity we do social selling.
My first customer said, if it sounds like an MLM and if it looks like a MLM it's likely a MLM and I'm not interested, I let out an audible laugh and the hun paid for her things and left.
I started talking to customer 1 again and she said, she didn't know anything about MLM's before but started watching this blond lady on RUclips and learned so much about how to beware of them, I asked her what the RUclipsrs name was and she pulled out her phone and it was you! I laughed and said I have been following you for a year now and we talked about how kind you are even to huns who you always give grace to.. best conversation this week! I kinda hope she reads this in your comments too but I really wanted to say you make a difference in a small town in southern Michigan
That is a great story.
The Hannah Effect!
I’m in Columbia City, IN, and am familiar with Southern MI. Nice people 😊
That’s awesome! Good for you! Also, fellow Southern Michigan gal here! Growing up in a small town, I didn’t know anything about MLMs. Some out of town friends tried getting me to sell for them, but I’ve always wanted to sell my own hand made things and not something that another large company has made.
How fantastic is that!
The lady showing off all her oils is like a hoarder inviting you into their home to show off their mess.
That oil hun really thought she was doing something using Elyse Myers lifetime supply sound. All she was showing was probably 10’s of thousands of dollars WASTED. Especially considering Elyse was talking about being freaked out by lifetime supplies of anything haha
I knew that voice was familiar!
See, that's what I thought they were doing, saying that they have no need for owning that much product as a "shame on me" kind of statement. I didn't know the voice speaking wasn't the person who made the video, but the contradiction between what the MLM rep wanted to convey and the message I got from it is hilarious 😂
100% she would 😂
I knew for sure that it was Elyse Myers' voice, and I thank you for this context....I was a little worried!!
Okay, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that was Elyse’s voice. And that I was right. Lol
"We're not a pyramid, we're just SHAPED like one" ... 🤣
Substance abuse counselor here. The recruiting post targeted at individuals with substance use disorders is absolutely disgusting. One thing common to see in recovery is “process addictions” ie gambling, sex, work, exercise etc. The high is transferred to something more socially acceptable. That person either fell victim to it or is very calculated. Absolutely abhorrent.
All my love to the recovery community and people on their journey to it. We do recover ❤
YES!!! My husband is an LCDC and he got pissed when he overheard that. It’s disgusting. She is purposely setting up vulnerable people for failure, offering a “dream life”. Ugh
Preying on vulnerable people is awful.
CRM here and I was APPALLED. As a recovering addict and working as a recovery mentor I was super offended.
What are all these acronyms? 😳
@@azlizzieI also want to know
😅
Sometimes I can figure them out, others are all Greek to me!
So many essential oils.... I wonder how many are "expired" or have lost some of their benefits just sitting on the shelf with the lifetime supply.
I never thought of the fact they may expire… can anyone confirm? I’ll Google
Hi I’m back. So they don’t expire… exactly but they do lose potency and just become a smell good. (Or bad)
@Angie Christine Fitness that is why I wrote expire is in "". If they aren't already diluted in carrier oil, they may last a little longer, but if diluted, the oil will go rancid. Then it smells like rancid oiled flowers.
@@angiechristinefitnessYes, essential oils expire. Most have a shelf life of about 2 years if kept in optimum conditions - ie a cool dark place. And you cannot always tell when an oil has gone rancid.
My brother worked at a gas station, some Avon lady dropped off an order form, they threw it away and she came back like uh I need that back. And they were like we don't have it?? And she was like oh. Girl what did you expect 😭 why do they do this
Do they even write on it to not throw it away? Well...even if they do, don't distribute something you're not okay with being tossed 😂.
They drop off something nobody asked for, and just assume the recipient magically knows they're supposed to save or return it?
That's so bizarre!
@@tarajh It's an order form. She wanted it back to place the order. The gas station employees didn't fill it out because they didn't want anything, so the hun isn't getting commission.
Bruh, I love Avon bra for real. 🥹🥹 lols, my neighbor is a member of Avon and as a good neighbor, i purchased most of my undies from her brochure. I don’t like their make up products though. This is of course assuming that Avon in my country is same as Avon in the US. 😆
@@Telltalesign I was thinking the same thing. I'm from Romania,and here we don't have that door to door sale practice. Avon was really popular when I was growing up but my experience with it is: you have an aquaintance or a friend who has the brochure, you know that they can order for you, you ask to browse through the catalog and if you want to buy something, you tell them and they place the order for you. But I guess they are very predatory in the US, making you feel bad if you don't want to order their products, yuck! I understand how that is off-putting
As a former addict this made me make my first comment. I am going on 3 years clean on Oct 19th 2024. And this pissed me off. As a recovering addict, she should know you can become ADDICTED to ANYTHING. Not just drugs. Shame on her and what she posted. Thank you Hannah for showing this. I've been watching you for a few weeks after I found you. ❤❤❤
"It's not like one of those MLM pyramid schedes, its a cone model"....
Thats literally what one Hun told me.
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they are being fooled.
I’m so glad Zeke decided to grace us with his presence before the video was over ❤
Came for the horror stories, stayed for zeke❤️ Hannah is cool too
Zekes butt to be precise 😝
When I was younger, I loved the Avon booklets! They seemed so fancy & pretty, so as a kid & teen I loved seeing them.
They would be left in waiting rooms & staff rooms, door to door - very old school!
People like to throw "just" around too much, if "just" isn't followed by "$5" you've lost me.
Be careful, that's how Paparazzi ropes people in to buying their $5 jewelry!
Me too.hahaha
I’ve worked hard to eradicate that word from my vocabulary. It’s used negatively as a minimizer in most situations but I do agree that the phrase “Just $5!” Has a great sound 😂😊😊😊
@Swissmiss8899 me too. I had to catch myself using it in work emails!
Well, "Just $5" can still be not worth it. When someone is minimizing, there's usually a reason, and it sets my "spidey senses" tingling!
Love it when the people who make my popcorn also make toilet bowl cleaner. Sounds like that’s a solid business model.
Yeah, that was my first thought, too. Cleaning product production and food production do NOT mix.
I joined Herbalife to lose weight. My bank account sure got lighter.
Omg them using elyse Meyer’s voice for the oil inventory is infuriating!
I’m sure she would HATE this!
I was hunting for this. Like… is nobody going to mention its Elyse meyers?
As someone who was briefly in Avon long ago, they probably left an Avon catalog. Avon calls them "brochures" but they are full catalogs. There is no order form with the brochure, it just has the rep's phone number/email/website on the back for placing an order. It's very old school. I suspect those Avon reps were asking for the brochures back on their own because they paid at least a couple bucks for each one and probably aren't making anything back from their investment.
That is so true.
The brochures are supposed to have order forms with them.
Here in the UK it's quite common for the Avon lady to leave a catalogue and ask for it to be returned
As a recovering addict myself (6 years clean off opiates/heroin next month) it makes me SICK to know this woman is using her recovery in that way.
Well done!
Congratulations, that’s no easy feat
This reminds me that I NEED to send you my recovery faker horror story! I’ve started to typing it up a few times but always get overcome by anger. But that MLM fail was just the boost I needed to remind me how important it is for people in recovery to be aware of this stuff so they don’t fall prey to it.
Hugs, friend! I'm sorry someone preyed upon you during a vulnerable time. Your story would be appreciated if you ever feel up to it!
I would love to hear your story. But make sure you don't forsake your own mental health.
Ohhhh, that sounds bad. Inflitrating what should be a safe place to sell and recruit???? If it would be healing for you, share; if not, wait!
When I get mad, I type it out and let it sit. Come back in a few days and maybe you can fix it then. But first I have to get the anger out. I don't care about spelling, grammar, or anything. Just go with the flow, then let it rest. It is amazing what happens to your mental frame of mind. It is already down, now just clean it up. I now do the same thing with texts. If I get irritated at someone, I type it out. Let it sit in draft form, then a day later, revisit it and probably remove a few sentences, and then maybe send it. Then usually there are no emotions or regrets. Just my way of dealing with irritating people.
Everytime she said small investment, I wanted to snap. $200 to mostly everyone is a lot! That's my phone bill +, my electric bill +, & it's just $25 shy of being half of my rent. That's a huge investment! & if it went south, most wouldn't recover from it. I hate the false positive promotion, it's disgusting entrapment
$200 is a lot of money to lose for the majority.
Seeing all those oils gave me anxiety. Almost 2 years ago I bought a set of oils from a non mlm company. I have only emptied two bottles…I bought a large set. I can’t imagine being required to buy more each month.
It Gave me anxiety too. I have patchouli and frankincense bottles that used almost everyday for a little over two years: they are like not even half empty yet
Me either.
Yeah, I love good EOs, use them daily, but I don't buy more than 4/year usually.
I feel like that's the reason they push huns to use oils in foods and other unsafe ways. If you're just using them for aromatherapy a bottle can last months, and you only need to grab two or three of your favorite scents.
Gosh I wish I found these videos this time last year.
Thank you for everything that you've done.
I was/am a part of Monat and I've tried leaving before but felt so guilty about it so I went back. However, watching your videos makes me realise I need out!!
Be strong and do it for you!
hope you get out without much financial or personal loss, sis, good luck! ❤ proud of ya
Just watching this video now in September - wondering how you are doing? I hope you have been able to leave fully and are doing well x
Hi I don't usually comment but just wanted to say here in the UK Amaway and other such companies always leave a brochure and a note saying when they will pick it up even if you didn't order. If you don't leave it out they keep ringing the bell.
It happens easily for inventory loading in YL because they give you free products instead of paying you.
Free products instead of paying you how awful.
And if you're a hoarder....
@@LisaHarvey16 and it's usually expired stuff
Just stoped binge watching old videos to watch new one 😸
The Avon brochure in the letterbox trick is suuuuper old school. I remember it used to happen life 30 years ago when I was a kid. I guess it harks back to the old "door to door Avon lady" days.
One thing you didn't touch on, is that they're expecting you to put the brochure back in your box, at which time they GO INTO YOUR MAILBOX to fish out their brochure. When i was a kid none of us had locks on our mailboxes so I guess anyone could technically do that. But it seems such an invasion to have some random seller expecting I'd let them fossick around in my mail to get their spam back!!
It takes a certain type of vile person to target people recovering from an addiction.
Yes! Some lady put an Avon booklet/catalog in my mailbox, and it went right in the garbage where it belongs! That lady kept coming back to my apartment asking for it back and berating me for throwing it away! Ma'am you relinquished junk mail in MY mailbox, you get what you get with that risk! I told her trash day was in 1 day, and it's somewhere in the recycling bin. Help yourself!😂
Not to mention that it's technically a federal offense to put things in people's mailboxes unless you're a mail carrier. 😅😅
That’s a great response! 😂
Fast forward to Avon lady digging in the recycling bin for her brochure....I got sucked into Avon and lost about $500 because of brochures and samples and low sales. Why do they think anyone will keep buying cosmetics every month? And with drugstore cosmetics coming in hot, their market is miniscule.
Omg I had this problem in my neighborhood, but the Avon rep was someone important in another field, I needed to network with her, so it worked out that I got brownie points for getting the catalog back to her. But it was so weird, like lady, you're a very respected professional, this is not the side hustle you want. And you gotta just accept that losses are high with brochures and catalogs.
Avon was pretty big in my country in the early 20s. They had tons of girl teenagers as rep. Most of the girls in high-school was a rep. Of course they were not hired. Was all illegal.
“Insanely affordable “. Insane, yes. Affordable, NOT
I'm in the UK and those Avon catalogue drops are rife here!! I throw them straight away. One time an Avon lady came knocking on my door asking for her catalogue back, the absolute cheek of these people
I would just be rude and say. It's in the trash where it belongs. I just don't get why they do that.
It isn't an absolute cheek - they are just trying to earn some money, and brochure dropping was how sales used to be done, pre -interenet. I was an Avon rep many years ago, anda fter posting a brochure into a letter box the resident threatened to smash my head and my young son's head in with a hammer (he was with me on the brochure drop). He said I had woken him up just being putting the brochure in the letter box. I had to call the police, and he was arrested. I'm not sure why you think it's fine to laugh or abuse people doing this. If you'd have told me when I was rep that you'd binned it and were not interested, I'd have crossed off your address and never come back.
ohh dear, that recovery one is rough. I’m 5+ years sober myself, but I used to be heavily addicted to intravenous “H” and “C” - I lost my brother and several of my closest friends to it before I was able to turn the page myself, and I’m super lucky to even be alive. Hearing the way this person is using recovery to pitch their “opportunity” might be the slimiest, downright _gross_ things I’ve heard YET on this channel (and as everyone knows, the competition is fierce!)
In terms of the prospective audience’s vulnerability, one big factor is that severe addiction tends to up-end one’s career: you lose your job, and it becomes increasingly difficult to find and keep employment, so once you are IN recovery and trying to put your life back together, you might have big gaps in your work history / resume, and then it’s even MORE difficult to find legitimate, gainful employment. Somebody in that position might be more inclined to see these kinds of “be your own boss” MLM pitches as their only option to earn a living, and be more susceptible to it. So sketchy D:
It is terrible praying on vulnerable people.
You nailed it.
stellar job getting off that shit, it’s gotta be hard. hope you’re congratulating urself every day if you can
I think the definition of an MLM is when your success is directly connected to RECRUITMENT. (If you don't recruit, you only sell products, you can't succeed)
that’s the definition of a product based pyramid scheme. so yeah, basically.
"We're not a pyramid because it's illegal" that's the excuse people from Monat always say 😂😂 and they never explain how it works
In the 90s we had an "Avon Lady" & I recall the catalogue being delivered in a tiny plastic bag that said something along the lines of "whether ordering or not, please leave this at your doorstep & I will collect. Thanks".
The avon thing is *extremely* common in the uk. Ours used to come in a sandwich bag (to protect from rain) with the note saying when to leave it on your doorstep for collection
I never did the door to door, but I remember filling little sandwich bags with brochures and samples to leave around. Definitely spent more than I made.
@maryeckel9682 yeah finding out this was an MLM was very enlightening and I felt bad realising any orders I placed must have kept my neighbours in it longer 😔 that's why this type of content is so important
I had a friend that went through a rough patch after the birth of her first child and had to quit her job. She got roped into the LuLa Roe scam while she was recovering and it almost broke them financially. My mom almost got roped into Young Living a few years ago as well. Thankfully she asked me to look into it first before she got in too deep and when I showed her it was a scam she dipped out, but it's crazy how skeezy these companies are. I have known several people who have literally been destroyed by these companies. They prey on good, well meaning, hard working people and wreck their lives.
YL former hun here. We were encouraged from our uplines to purchase as much product as possible to have more personal experiences with the products and more testimonies and be able to sell more. The hype is unreal for every seasonal product launch and that conference thing they do each year where many reps easily spend 1k. And every month there is a special freebies where if you spend so much, you get free product. The highest tier was $400 and we were always encouraged by uplines that if we were serious about our biz we would hit that 400 tier mark because we could more experiences, more stories, more selling points and it was a fast track to the top to spend more money and have more product. I could never afford that though, thankfully. Also they use all that product as rank gifts and incentives to their downlines and as samples to lure in new people.
So glad I've found your channel!! I joined doTERRA years ago just to get the oils wholesale. (I never knew it was an MLM and I really like the oils 😂) My friend had a party and thankfully,I never heard from the hun afterwards other than to ask if I liked the oils. I guess her heart wasn't in it. 😂
My grandmother used to do Avon. Their glossy little 25-35 page magazines where you got the order form and product numbers were always charged for. You were told not to leave them unattended because people tended to throw them out so... Avon couple, you effed up.
Hannah!! So happy to see you back :) I hope you and AJ are enjoying being parents.
Avon reps leaving catalogues unsolicited & then expecting them back is very 90’s Avon… what century are these folks living in again?
yayyyy Hi hannah from Australia!!! i’ve been saving ur videos to binge while i’ve been in recovery after a hospital issue the other week ❤ glad to have u back and can’t wait to watch!! also have u ever thought about doing a deep dive on those get rich quick courses? could be a fun idea !
This is definitely on my list of topics to cover in the future!
Ariana, hoping your recovery goes well. Hannah, sounds very interesting, but I’m sure I speak for many of your fans when I say no need for deep dives until you feel ready 😊
@@G-L-O-R-I-Awtf?
The Avon couple- they don't care about the book. It's an excuse for them to come back. Perhaps produce some guilt purchases even.
Post # 2 literally makes me sick. As someone in recovery from a serious drug and alcohol addiction, this is so predatory and disgusting. No business or person is going to get or keep you sober. This disease is real and tragic and people die every day from the lack of help and information available. I just found out my friend passed away last night and he was previously sober. I cannot even count the number of friends I've lost in recovery to this disease. None of them would have lived because they joined this or any mlm. I hope the person who sent you this is doing ok and I'll be thinking of them 💗
Sorry for the loss of your friend. Sending love
Avon does charge for those catalogs which is crazy!
I worked w an older lady who casually sold it. She would let ppl know she sold it in case you wanted to look at the catalog. or buy something (like Skin So Soft- popular item & you could only get thru a rep). I remember her saying she needed catalog back as she PAID for it. I was shocked as this was over 20 years ago & it was still common for companies to mail large catalogs to millions of homes. For Avon to charge for janky, mini catalogs or not give you a few free ones before charging was a CASH GRAB.
At this time IKEA was still mailing out their thick, heavy catalogs for free so it made NO sense
Any time I hear, "Well....what if I told you ____," it's a clear indication to RUN.
For the last one, why didn't they include that card with the catalogue initially? Why would they wait a week to tell people they wanted them back, when most people would have already thrown them away by then?
Hannah I know you are a big advocate for the anti Mlm community, but so far you are one of the only ones who isn’t awful, a lot of them are petty and mean, you are a shining star and I wish all the rest of them would take a page from your book. ❤️
If a salesperson has to say it's not a pyramid scheme, it's probably a pyramid scheme.
Hannah, I recently came across your channel and love binging the influencer and MLM content! I have never experienced an MLM before or knew much about it. It is so crazy how I started binging your content and then yesterday experienced a recruiter at Walmart for what I assume is an MLM company. I was in the medicine aisle minding my business and this nice woman struck up a conversation with me complimenting my bag. We start chatting about how we are new to the city, and she asks where I work. I tell her I work in the neighboring city, and she points out how that commute seems long. She asks me what I do and I tell her my profession and then she says she works in business marketing helping people transform their time for money. So because I have been educated by you, I immediately started to realize what she was trying to do. She asked if I liked my job and if I didn't she had a business opportunity I could be a part of. I told her I liked my job but thanks for offering and then we went our separate ways. That was so weird to me!! had I not been educated by your content maybe I would have been intrigued or something lol but thankfully not. Just wanted to share this story lol!
10:00 I'm an alcoholic and have friends and family who've struggled with drug addiction. My blood pressure is through the ROOF right now.
Had so many of those Avon catalogues put through my door over the years that and betterware were rampant over here in U.K. they were always knocking on the doors asking for them back if I remembered I put them out on the doorstep but I didn’t always,used to drive me mad.
Oh I've absolutely had someone use the "you can be your own boss" phrase word for word in a fake interview. Granted he was an old man in World Financial Group and I was a fresh out of uni job hunter, so he probably thought I wasn't aware of it.
Unfortunately, I did Avon for a while. No, I never made any money, lol. I don't know how it works in the US but in the UK there's almost no emphasis on recruiting but,we were charged for the catalogues/brochures, it really ate into your “commission”.
Yes, making you more of a consumer than a salesperson. So much for "owning" your own business!
I did Avon in the UK as well and I didn't make any money either.
There is a huge emphasis on recruiting in Avon UK now. Back in the late 90s, early 00s, you were given a patch to work with no emphasis on recruiting, but that's all changed, the assigned areas are gone and it's recruit, recruit, recruit! They will also damage your credit rating now, as when you sign up they don't tell you that you are opening a credit account.
@@amandag5072Wow! Glad I got out when I did!
Love your videos! I'm glad you mixed that one up with a little humor because taking advantage of people when they're down is rage inducing for me! Like the Mary Kay rep who tried to recruit at the local women's shelter! Disgusting!!!
You are right that is disgusting.
I was applying for jobs and found an ad for remote work for travel agent. They did a group interview. It was an Mlm.
I know this is an old video, but you talking about how potent the Young Living oils are reminded me of when I was helping a Young Living rep at one of my old jobs (in a chocolate shop, where the entire store does in fact smell like chocolate). She smelled absolutely RANK with essential oils omg. I'm not particularly sensitive to scents but I had such a headache. The EO stench lingered as well for at least an hour, drowning out any scent of chocolate one would hope to smell upon entering a chocolate shop. (I knew she was a YL rep because she was wearing a YL branded jacket). Idk how much oil she was wearing, or how she was using it, but my god I couldn't believe it.
I hate to think how much more expensive their life is by buying all their routinely used products from a highly overpriced MLM!
22:18 - The FTC doesn't even investigate MLMs until they have been around for 7 years. (At least that is what I have been told 100s of times at Amway conferences. They used this as a flex to explain why "new" MLMs couldn't be trusted and to show how awesome Amway is." So, yeah, they could 100% be a pyramid without getting caught.
I bought a set of oils (non mlm) to make custom scents with and I could smell it before opening- a new unopened kit. I made some oil combinations with a roller bottle and diluting them and it was a lot cheaper than mlm stuff.
Oh sweet Jesus. I am so disgusted by that recovery recruiting pitch. That's not how you help other people in recovery. She's putting people in danger.
I didn't read all 500 comments, but I read a bunch. I'm suprised that there aren't MLM cultists in here defending the industry or the company. Maybe it's just here on YT. Everywhere else, for many years, I've always seen them come on with guns blazing, trying to convince, and trying like hell to compare their model to legitimate businesses.
You sounded almost exactly like Jennifer Coolidge when you did the mimicky “BE YOUR OWN BOSS” 😂😂😂
I had a similar experience with an Avon rep a few months ago! They shoved their catalogue through my mailslot and put on it "I'll be around at x time to pick this up!" Side note, I work nights and I don't remember exactly when she came by but it was in the middle of the day when I was asleep. I have a sign on my door saying not to knock as I will be sleeping, definitely didn't deter her. I grumpily threw the stupid thing at her and told her to take her pyramid scheme elsewhere and let me sleep. She wasn't impressed lol
Ok that last bit about the Avon couple… what?!?! How embarrassing! Who goes back to the residence to get the catalog back? 😂
I am a postal carrier and hate delivering Young living packages... something is always leaking in the and there isnt a spot far ebough away in my truck for it to be bearable. That package usually gets delivered first thing to get it out of my truck
I love that the Avon card was pre-printed. Clearly knowing full well everyone is going to ‘forget’ to leave the brochure outside. 😂
As a former Avon rep in the UK, I used to get 90 to 95% of the brochures back, with the vast majority being left out on the day requested.
I sold for Avon for about a month back in college, and let me tell you, those catalogs are expensive. Can't say I blame those reps 😂
Thank you, Hannah, for being such a fantastic RUclipsr and a fantastic person! I feel like I have watched you for forever and you truly are as good a person irl as you are in your vids.
Nothing but positivity and love! TY ❤
Best start to my Monday :D Just as I signed in, seeing your video pop up is a great beginning to a new week. Hope maternity leave is going well!
They should write on the note text "hi, your brochure has been archived at: the local/city dump address, collect at your convenience"
The whole “be your own boss” when you literally have to have an up line, like sure you’re not dealing with the ceo god of whatever pyramid they’re in but they still answer to their up line! ESPECIALLY if they are one of the few “successful” sellers! You still have a “boss”, I truly would love to be a fly on the wall of these reps once they turn off the camera, like do they hate themselves or do they truly believe in the bullshit that they just spat into the camera.
Hannah you always post JUST as I need something to watch I don’t know how you do it
Lol that last one…. I had something similar happen to me as well.
I live with my fiancé and his dad… well I got home from work one day and his dad handed me a Avon packet. The lady that lives 3 houses down from us apparently is in that company and she talked to my FIL and told him “I noticed there’s a young girl living here, would you give this to her and have her buy something from me?”
I literally started laughing so hard I cried a little. (I was a little excited that I had an encounter with an mlm) My FIL was confused and asked me what was going on and I explained to him what a mlm is and how the company that lady works for is one. He straight up said “we’re throwing this away” 🤣🥳
He told me what the lady looks like and her name so that if she ever tries to stop me on my way into the house, I will be prepared to come up with a story to get out of it🤣
Can i just say you are GLOWING ugh so pretty 😭
Targeting recovering addicts is a well known tactic to get people to convert one lifestyle sublimation for another. To create converts that make the in-group their new identity.
$200 is about what i spend on groceries rn so this is for a whole month (almost no space for food since i share my space with a few other people, all buying our own groceries)
My friend used to do Avon and she had to spend so much money on brochures etc. She genuinely wanted the brochures back because she couldn't afford them. Luckily she eventually realised this was a ridiculous business and left.
I got out of Avon as well.
Same
Same. They scammed me and I scammed them right back.
The door to door one is how they did it when I was a kid
Hi Hannah, I really enjoy your videos! I am fromt the UK, and it is common practice here for Avon people to leave catalogues to order here. I don't actually know if it is an MLM here, but Avon is well known here for having the catalogues.
Here in the uk every Avon brochure I’ve had comes with a slip saying please leave outside to collect with an order form inside I was always confused why they wanted them back without an order but the rep being charged for them makes sense 😂
I think Melaluca (sp?) has such a wide variety of products so there is always "something" you've got to be "low" on
I have intermittent insomnia. When it’s bad, I’ll listen to my phone (under my pillow) to a wide range of topics. I usually drift off to sleep from the distraction. I made the mistake of choosing this video. My blood is boiling! No way can I sleep. I’m typing this comment at 3:19AM! This was a mistake. This video is so excellent at exposing the few things I despise in this world: dishonesty and predation! And one more thing: that voice around 14:20! I don’t know which is worse what she’s says or how she says it. I feel like I need a shower; and I want to yell at Drew Barrymore for some reason…I mean like, really, like.
So expensive and you have to join, of course... I saw something several years ago and curiously looked them up. Yikes, no thanks. 🙄
Thanks for the content yet again, Hannah! I hope that you and AJ are enjoying being Mommy and Daddy to Miss Harper Leona ❤️
Aww I didn't know the baby's name, I *love* the name Eloise! ❤️❤️
I just saw on Instagram that her middle name is actually Leona though!
That's what I get for going off memory... It is Harper Leona... Sorry, Hannah! 🙄
I saw a pampered chef booth at my towns pride celebration today and I was so excited to point it out to my boyfriend and say “that’s a mlm!!”😅 never understood what mlm was until I started watching your videos and now I see/hear about them everywhere!!!
Watching this while nursing my week old daughter. Thank you for continuing to post content. I hope you and baby are well and that you’re recovering well :)
I love this channel, no constant cussing, professional and kind, some of these kind of channels have such a attitude I can’t watch them even though I like the content, I just don’t do the mean thing 🤷♀️
The Avon note is an Avon thing.... I'm in New Zealand and I got a note after biffing the catalog... so I wrote them a note back.. the audacity 😂😂😂
My mom is a recovering addict and when I was in an mlm, I never asked her to join . This person is sick in the head.
Young living tells their consultants that the oils don't go bad, that they never expire. That's why she thinks that she can load up and have a "lifetime supply" and hand these down to her grandchildren and great grandchildren.
It's not surprising that someone would bring up an MLM right after referencing ideas from the 12 Step movement. 12S is not dissimilar to an MLM, especially in its early literature.
The reps are always the primary customers