I Had never been a Jehovah's witness. The one thing that really stand out in all of the Watchtower magazine articles Is how they alway remove Jesus from theirs articles . Even when the verses are talking about Jesus like here in article 33.They only say half of the verse in 1: John 2:1, leaving out the name of Jesus Christ.
And of course in verse 60 the Watchtower inserts the name Jehovah into the NWT with no manuscript evidence to make it look like Stephen wasn't praying to Jesus. Pure evil.
In paragraph five; "Sitting down to a meal with someone can easily lead to having further association with him. Clearly, then, Paul meant that the congregation should not socialize with that man. THIS WOULD PROTECT THE CONGREGATION FROM HIS CORRUPTING INFLUENCE." Yeah, like him telling them that he's discovered that salvation is by faith in Christ alone and Watchtower is full of baloney.
I feel for you! 😔But those men will reap what they sow! Karma is real!🙏 I know the god from the jw is not the god they think they worship otherwise the csa would never ever have happend under the reign of The Almigthy ! Let us pray that the veil will be lifted from there eyes🙏🙏
Song 109 at the end; "When our love is pure and intense, We make Jehovah’s heart rejoice." And when our love is pure and intense, we don't treat family members like they have the plague.
When i was a teen 12/13 maybe (unbaptised) i had to sit outside in the car with my older disfellowshipped sister untill the opening song began and sit at the very back in school 2 then we would have to leave and go back to the car when the ending song began. We waited in the car while mother and the rest of the.family associated with everyone inside.
Yes, I had to do the same. But I lived in a subtropical climate and my parents would not allow the car to run so that I could have air conditioning. My father always was the first to arrive to unlock the hall so I had to sit in the heat for approximately 40 minutes. It was awful!
@@JWEscapethat is so sad and could have been dangerous - glad you came through it okay - but God had other plan’s for you and now you are doing them xxx ❤
I knew a JW lady sat in back row and was on reproof. She was not able to answer for 3 years because she had been reading romantic sex novels. How did the JW elders know? Some elders wives came to visit her this single older JW sister and saw her book case filled with romance novels. She had to contact WT 2 times before let her back in. Also heard about case in JW sister DF cause grossly overweight . I heard about young man 17 years old studied 2 years with active JW in CA state in which elders refuse to baptize him cause not circumisized. His worldly father made him leave the JW after this rejection for his JW baptism. So sorry you went thru this rejection and sadness.
All paths have a starting point and for this one Watchtower remains a lookout castle only. Adding things to it is very silly indeed. In the atheist path we always have to start with everything has a creator.
There’s a reason y this religion has changed words, & punctuations in their Bible in so many passages: so it can fit their narrative & theology. Once upon a time as a believing JW, especially as an Elder, I thought the whole disfellowshipping (semantically rephrased as “Remove”) arrangement was a loving provision by God, one that was scripturally found. If not for the pandemic allowing me the free time to truly read, & per their admonition, get the background of what took place in these passages, I wouldn’t have started reading scriptures in its full context. I immediately started noticing, even from their NWT, some things we taught didn’t quite line up. (Later to find out many things) This doctrine, or should I say policy is one of them. They may provide the diet version of this policy, but it still causes great harm. -Ppl names r announced publicly, which leads to gossip, humiliation, prejudgment -Even upon reinstatement, they have to start all over, “earning privileges”, & in many cases, could require them to start a study out of the same publications designed for non witnesses!! They’ve perverted the scriptures to fit their practices, & Elaine regardless how long ago it happened, as a former Elder who was involved in this practice, I’m so sorry u had to endure that humiliation.
Thank you, my friend. I appreciate your apology..but no need. I don’t talk about the hours and hours of interrogation as a minor, without the presence of my parents. What I endured was truly horrifying. But that was then and this is now. Maybe it was all in God‘s plan, so I can have this ministry with tremendous conviction. All good.
If I do works I'm a failure. If you do works you're a failure. We're all failures and we're just not good enough at all. This god wants me to fail and I don't play that way. I'm going to Jesus to succeed. He knows that as well, he's just BURNING HOPPING ANGRY about it.
When you enter hell that will fix your thinking! Psalms 37:20 For the wicked themselves will perish, And the enemies of Jehovah will be like the preciousness of pastures; They must come to their end. In smoke they must come to their end.
More great questions coming your way guys: Why would you love any sort of a diety that wants you to get away from him?? If you are disfellowshipped not only are you not able to be with your friends you also are not able to be with this god. He says get away from me. You're not able to worship him any more, you can't fellowship, you're pretty much a done JW. And with the old information you have while your group has current information it only enforces this idea. That's new light. That's not your attitude, it's this gods attitude and it is pretty darn crappy. I mean if this god still wanted a group everything would remain current information. His own group is unable to question things but there is absolutely nothing wrong with me doing so and I do it to defend the group since this god has taken that right away.
Christ's "Faithful Slave" gives food at the proper time:1874, 1878, 1914, 1918,1925, 1975, this "one generation" will never die becomes 3 generations, It seems that the proper time constantly changes, so whose slave are they really?
"Why do people hate us?" Actually guys hating you and taking a stand against this god are 2 different things. They are not the same. Taking a stand against this particular god is what we call SPIRITUAL WARFARE and it is actually a great thing. Individuals who are involved in spiritual warfare find an extra secret side to this god. It's part of a Christian's job description to be involved in that. It's highly recommended though for everyone to participate in this. Jesus does instruct all of us to love everyone however he also rolls with love does not mean acceptance. We have Jesus once calling a group "brood of vipers" so he did not accept them.
What does this god think about stopping disfellowshipping??? Guys do you just think this god will grant you anything you pray for??? He has a goal in mind here and he is now going for that goal. He can't bother with any of these prayers. Anyone who thought this god was "just another Jesus Christ" will be very disappointed. I wouldn't get your hopes up there. This god wants to replace a glorified Jesus Christ and take over. I really doubt you can replace anything glorified but yes he is going to try anyway.
You were unjustly disfellowshipped and humiliated, but to me that seems like the best scenario for you to be where you are now. Otherwise, you would still be lost in that religion most likely. Praise be to God!
In the JW path it is common for its followers to think they are still part of the Watchtower lookout castle (soldiers). Guys in reality no one has any association with the castle, this happened many years ago. So to promote this idea that we are somehow related to the castle today is simply false. Anyway it would make much more sense to be soldiers of Jesus Christ because you have something to look forward to.
I know most of you guys that are involved with this group say and think it is serious but I'm sorry this god is giving me clear signs that he disagrees. He has enough time to mock, cackle and laugh wildly but doesn't have any time to think about this stuff. He has his own goal in mind.
How is this god going to try to replace Jesus??? Well he will perform his own miracles exactly like Jesus and he will do so in front of a large gathering. The people who watch him get inspired and then follow this god instead of Jesus.
People are special in this group??? Why should this god give anyone special treatment for??? He's got his own goal in mind. Everybody is still in the what do we think about this god thing. That's why things do not progress at all, they do not move forward and all you have are questions. And it's also a fact that if we all asked ourselves what this god thought about certain topics we wouldn't be having the path of JW in our conversations at all. The entire concept wouldn't even exist. That would be this god's greatest fear.
Does JW have any truth??? 50 percent of what they say is truth. If you are after all of it we need to go with Jesus. Let me just add here that it starts with this god. This god teaches only 50 percent truth to everyone else when he really knows all of it. So this god is to blame for all that not the followers. This god alone knows that Jesus Christ has all truth and HE IS VERY VERY ANGRY ABOUT IT. It does not make him a happy camper. When I go straight to what this god thinks, views and says he cannot play his secret game with me anymore. It's highly recommended for the entire RUclips community at this point to at least know about this god's extra side because he tends to keep that hidden from us all.
You were really dragged through the mill when you were a teenager Elaine. The elders who have " gone to their reward" probably would like some water on their tougues right now. (Unless they came to Christ)
In paragraph 14; "Jehovah is merciful, but he is not permissive; nor does he lower his standards. (Jude 4) Indeed, to do so would not be merciful at all because it would endanger all in the congregation." Jehovah's not permissive but Watchtower is when they " warmly" welcome deviants back into the congregation.
Song 109 at the end; "When our love is pure and intense, We make Jehovah’s heart rejoice." And when our love is pure and intense, we don't treat family members like they have the plague.
Nice try, Isaiah 43:11 - American Standard Version (ASV) 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour. John 17:3 - English Standard Version (ESV) 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
We are to pray to the father not Jesus. The father made all of this possible and all the glory belongs to him! The Model Prayer “Lord, teach us to pray” (Luke 11:1). The disciples brought this request to Jesus after they had witnessed the countless times He went out to spend time with His Father. Likewise, this should be the heart cry of every child of God. Jesus’ response to the disciples’ request is found in Matthew 6:9-13: “In this manner, therefore, pray: ‘Our Father in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.'” (NKJV) This model prayer, also called “The Lord’s Prayer,” covers every aspect of prayer. It can be divided into two parts. The first three components of the prayer deal with God’s glory: “Hallowed be Your name,” “Your Kingdom come,” and “Your will be done.” The second three components of the model prayer deal with our need. “Give us this day our daily bread,” “Forgive us our debts,” and “Lead us not into temptation.” Have a nice day!
@@g45crrt Jehovah is not the name of the father moron the name jehovah was only invented by a catholic monk martini how could u say that Jesus haven't authority to heard and answer our prayers? The fact that He is the creator of all things.- colosians 1:14-15
I Had never been a Jehovah's witness. The one thing that really stand out in all of the Watchtower magazine articles Is how they alway remove Jesus from theirs articles . Even when the verses are talking about Jesus like here in article 33.They only say half of the verse in 1: John 2:1, leaving out the name of Jesus Christ.
@@bookerjones3983 This is very interesting vers. Jesus Christ named as The Fader. ♥️
The name Jesus terrifies demons. The name Jehovah has no power over them
That is your answer
Jesus is named with or before the Father, not as the Father. That would be modalism.
@@OhioPIMO No one said that. Only your JW mind, made you think, that you read someone saying that.
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Jesus is the Way the Truth and the LIfe
Now follow his directions and pray to the father
Stephen prayed to Jesus as he was calling on God:
“And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” Acts 7:59
And of course in verse 60 the Watchtower inserts the name Jehovah into the NWT with no manuscript evidence to make it look like Stephen wasn't praying to Jesus.
Pure evil.
@@JWEscapethank you for this scripture!!! ❤❤❤
Thank you, glad you and family are getting back to some form of normality 🙏🙂
Great Job Elaine God Bless You
That’s crazy, I just quoted those same exact scriptures in one of my videos recently! 😮Good job keep up the good work.
In paragraph five;
"Sitting down to a meal with someone can easily lead to having further association with him. Clearly, then, Paul meant that the congregation should not socialize with that man. THIS WOULD PROTECT THE CONGREGATION FROM HIS CORRUPTING INFLUENCE."
Yeah, like him telling them that he's discovered that salvation is by faith in Christ alone and Watchtower is full of baloney.
It also sadly - protects-? Or should I say - prevents The congregation from finding out some truths from these ‘others’ 😢
@@odettehunt3766 that's the real reason. 👍
❤❤thank you Rose! Watching now! ❤❤
That’s crazy, I just quoted that exact scripture and one of my videos. Good job keep up the good work.
I feel for you! 😔But those men will reap what they sow! Karma is real!🙏 I know the god from the jw is not the god they think they worship otherwise the csa would never ever have happend under the reign of The Almigthy !
Let us pray that the veil will be lifted from there eyes🙏🙏
Listening to you from orange County n.y thank you for the information
Song 109 at the end;
"When our love is pure and intense,
We make Jehovah’s heart rejoice."
And when our love is pure and intense,
we don't treat family members like they have the plague.
So true.
Thank you Elaine. This is a wicked organization and I think has destroyed my life.😊
When i was a teen 12/13 maybe (unbaptised) i had to sit outside in the car with my older disfellowshipped sister untill the opening song began and sit at the very back in school 2 then we would have to leave and go back to the car when the ending song began. We waited in the car while mother and the rest of the.family associated with everyone inside.
Yes, I had to do the same. But I lived in a subtropical climate and my parents would not allow the car to run so that I could have air conditioning. My father always was the first to arrive to unlock the hall so I had to sit in the heat for approximately 40 minutes. It was awful!
@@JWEscapethat is so sad and could have been dangerous - glad you came through it okay - but God had other plan’s for you and now you are doing them xxx ❤
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I knew a JW lady sat in back row and was on reproof. She was not able to answer for 3 years because she had been reading romantic sex novels. How did the JW elders know? Some elders wives came to visit her this single older JW sister and saw her book case filled with romance novels. She had to contact WT 2 times before let her back in. Also heard about case in JW sister DF cause grossly overweight . I heard about young man 17 years old studied 2 years with active JW in CA state in which elders refuse to baptize him cause not circumisized. His worldly father made him leave the JW after this rejection for his JW baptism. So sorry you went thru this rejection and sadness.
All paths have a starting point and for this one Watchtower remains a lookout castle only. Adding things to it is very silly indeed. In the atheist path we always have to start with everything has a creator.
There’s a reason y this religion has changed words, & punctuations in their Bible in so many passages: so it can fit their narrative & theology.
Once upon a time as a believing JW, especially as an Elder, I thought the whole disfellowshipping (semantically rephrased as “Remove”) arrangement was a loving provision by God, one that was scripturally found.
If not for the pandemic allowing me the free time to truly read, & per their admonition, get the background of what took place in these passages, I wouldn’t have started reading scriptures in its full context. I immediately started noticing, even from their NWT, some things we taught didn’t quite line up. (Later to find out many things)
This doctrine, or should I say policy is one of them. They may provide the diet version of this policy, but it still causes great harm.
-Ppl names r announced publicly, which leads to gossip, humiliation, prejudgment
-Even upon reinstatement, they have to start all over, “earning privileges”, & in many cases, could require them to start a study out of the same publications designed for non witnesses!!
They’ve perverted the scriptures to fit their practices, & Elaine regardless how long ago it happened, as a former Elder who was involved in this practice, I’m so sorry u had to endure that humiliation.
Thank you, my friend. I appreciate your apology..but no need. I don’t talk about the hours and hours of interrogation as a minor, without the presence of my parents. What I endured was truly horrifying. But that was then and this is now. Maybe it was all in God‘s plan, so I can have this ministry with tremendous conviction. All good.
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If I do works I'm a failure. If you do works you're a failure. We're all failures and we're just not good enough at all. This god wants me to fail and I don't play that way. I'm going to Jesus to succeed. He knows that as well, he's just BURNING HOPPING ANGRY about it.
When you enter hell that will fix your thinking!
Psalms 37:20
For the wicked themselves will perish, And the enemies of Jehovah will be like the preciousness of pastures;
They must come to their end. In smoke they must come to their end.
More great questions coming your way guys:
Why would you love any sort of a diety that wants you to get away from him?? If you are disfellowshipped not only are you not able to be with your friends you also are not able to be with this god. He says get away from me. You're not able to worship him any more, you can't fellowship, you're pretty much a done JW. And with the old information you have while your group has current information it only enforces this idea. That's new light. That's not your attitude, it's this gods attitude and it is pretty darn crappy. I mean if this god still wanted a group everything would remain current information. His own group is unable to question things but there is absolutely nothing wrong with me doing so and I do it to defend the group since this god has taken that right away.
Christ's "Faithful Slave" gives food at the proper time:1874, 1878, 1914, 1918,1925, 1975, this "one generation" will never die becomes 3 generations, It seems that the proper time constantly changes, so whose slave are they really?
"Why do people hate us?" Actually guys hating you and taking a stand against this god are 2 different things. They are not the same. Taking a stand against this particular god is what we call SPIRITUAL WARFARE and it is actually a great thing. Individuals who are involved in spiritual warfare find an extra secret side to this god. It's part of a Christian's job description to be involved in that. It's highly recommended though for everyone to participate in this. Jesus does instruct all of us to love everyone however he also rolls with love does not mean acceptance. We have Jesus once calling a group "brood of vipers" so he did not accept them.
What does this god think about stopping disfellowshipping??? Guys do you just think this god will grant you anything you pray for??? He has a goal in mind here and he is now going for that goal. He can't bother with any of these prayers. Anyone who thought this god was "just another Jesus Christ" will be very disappointed. I wouldn't get your hopes up there. This god wants to replace a glorified Jesus Christ and take over. I really doubt you can replace anything glorified but yes he is going to try anyway.
You were unjustly disfellowshipped and humiliated, but to me that seems like the best scenario for you to be where you are now. Otherwise, you would still be lost in that religion most likely. Praise be to God!
Absolutely!
In the JW path it is common for its followers to think they are still part of the Watchtower lookout castle (soldiers). Guys in reality no one has any association with the castle, this happened many years ago. So to promote this idea that we are somehow related to the castle today is simply false. Anyway it would make much more sense to be soldiers of Jesus Christ because you have something to look forward to.
I know most of you guys that are involved with this group say and think it is serious but I'm sorry this god is giving me clear signs that he disagrees. He has enough time to mock, cackle and laugh wildly but doesn't have any time to think about this stuff. He has his own goal in mind.
How is this god going to try to replace Jesus??? Well he will perform his own miracles exactly like Jesus and he will do so in front of a large gathering. The people who watch him get inspired and then follow this god instead of Jesus.
People are special in this group??? Why should this god give anyone special treatment for??? He's got his own goal in mind. Everybody is still in the what do we think about this god thing. That's why things do not progress at all, they do not move forward and all you have are questions. And it's also a fact that if we all asked ourselves what this god thought about certain topics we wouldn't be having the path of JW in our conversations at all. The entire concept wouldn't even exist. That would be this god's greatest fear.
Does JW have any truth??? 50 percent of what they say is truth. If you are after all of it we need to go with Jesus. Let me just add here that it starts with this god. This god teaches only 50 percent truth to everyone else when he really knows all of it. So this god is to blame for all that not the followers. This god alone knows that Jesus Christ has all truth and HE IS VERY VERY ANGRY ABOUT IT. It does not make him a happy camper. When I go straight to what this god thinks, views and says he cannot play his secret game with me anymore. It's highly recommended for the entire RUclips community at this point to at least know about this god's extra side because he tends to keep that hidden from us all.
You were really dragged through the mill when you were a teenager Elaine. The elders who have " gone to their reward" probably would like some water on their tougues right now.
(Unless they came to Christ)
In paragraph 14;
"Jehovah is merciful, but he is not permissive; nor does he lower his standards. (Jude 4) Indeed, to do so would not be merciful at all because it would endanger all in the congregation."
Jehovah's not permissive but Watchtower is when they " warmly" welcome deviants back into the congregation.
Song 109 at the end;
"When our love is pure and intense,
We make Jehovah’s heart rejoice."
And when our love is pure and intense,
we don't treat family members like they have the plague.
I don’t talk about the half of it, Mike. It was much, much worse. All good now, though.
@@JWEscape ☺️👌
Nice try,
Isaiah 43:11 - American Standard Version (ASV)
11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour.
John 17:3 - English Standard Version (ESV)
3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
Looking for the bless hope and Glorious appearing of our Great God and saviour Jesus christ.- Titus 2:13
We are to pray to the father not Jesus.
The father made all of this possible and all the glory belongs to him!
The Model Prayer
“Lord, teach us to pray” (Luke 11:1). The disciples brought this request to Jesus after they had witnessed the countless times He went out to spend time with His Father. Likewise, this should be the heart cry of every child of God. Jesus’ response to the disciples’ request is found in Matthew 6:9-13:
“In this manner, therefore, pray:
‘Our Father in Heaven,
Hallowed be Your name.
Your Kingdom come.
Your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation,
But deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
Amen.'” (NKJV)
This model prayer, also called “The Lord’s Prayer,” covers every aspect of prayer. It can be divided into two parts. The first three components of the prayer deal with God’s glory: “Hallowed be Your name,” “Your Kingdom come,” and “Your will be done.”
The second three components of the model prayer deal with our need. “Give us this day our daily bread,” “Forgive us our debts,” and “Lead us not into temptation.”
Have a nice day!
Stephen prayed to Jesus: “And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
@@g45crrt Jehovah is not the name of the father moron the name jehovah was only invented by a catholic monk martini how could u say that Jesus haven't authority to heard and answer our prayers? The fact that He is the creator of all things.- colosians 1:14-15