Hey guys, addressing some info bits for this video: 1. We forgot to mention Klyntar's weakness to sonic frequencies, we had it in our notes but because this was mostly non scripted we were bouncing ideas off each other and forgot to mention it. 2. When we said size would be a limiter for what aliens would be compatible, we were speaking in the sense of 5 Years Later. Putting a narrative limiter on the alien so it wouldn't become too OP. Plus we thought about it from a genetic stand point: small amount of DNA cycled into a big body, likely to be washed out. Same goes for fire and sound based aliens. Likely harmful to DNA, so won't work. Other than that if you guys have other suggestions for What Ifs, or notes on this video, let us know. We'd love to hear them. -O.R.Ash
Addressing the 2nd point. I don't really recall it ever being stated that the Omnitrix could do but reasonably if it could alter DNA and transform Ben into aliens wouldn't it be just as easy to replicate DNA, giving more of it to be able to cover Humungosaur?
@@futureblade6099 But his body isn't made up of the material he produces. I think it's more or less similar to the symbiote holding a gun and pulling the trigger for Nova's case.
Will Harangue: This is Will Harangue, of Will Harangue Nation. It appears Ben is a serial killer when he is in his symbiote form, Overkill. He starts killing every villain that ever walks the streets, never letting any live to tell their story. I say we should banish this psychotic killer once and for all! Ben: Wait... What?
@@melvinfranco2142 Venom eats humans brains no matter they are innocent or a kid because he need a special type of chemical available only in human brain and chocolate and he have to atleast eat 10 humans brains a day if he don't he will lose his sanity and will become more savage and starts to eat his host from inside, so there could be a really good episode in which Ben don't let him eat humans and he also don't know venom can also chocolate and when Ben becomes venom he lose his sanity and then start killing people that will be a really good and dark episode
@@melvinfranco2142 oh my god if that actually happened it would be like Christmas a birthday and basically every happy childhood memory wrapped up into one for Harangue.
The Klyntar aren't inherently aggressive. They take on the personality of their hosts, so if Ben was bonded with a fresh one, he wouldn't go bad necessarily, but would if was a symbiote that had previously bonded with a mentally unstable host
This is like Toxin symbionte from marvel where this new symbionte bonded with nypd officer and make him super hero unlike his "parent" Carnage who was bonded with serial killer.
@@youtubeuniversity3638 then ben would become more arrogant and egotistical. As well as probably up 10 year old bens overeliance on brute strength. When he becomes an alien who can’t normally fight, the symbiote would become far more combative.
There are few things that i know about klyntar: 1. They are capable of copying most powers of previous hosts 2. They instinctively have a want to be heroes but will sometimes go overboard in ways such as taking control of the hosts body at night not allowing the host to sleep. 3. They are easily corrupted by their hosts 4. They like chocolate
@@devinjohnson9133 imagine like there's a klyntar who's feeding on a bar of chocolate and then someone grabbed the bar and ate it without noticing the klyntar on it 😂😂😂 like oh my gosh!
Despite the capabilities that would have, I don't think there'd be much worry. There are already two minds inside a Celestialsapien. Ben makes three and a Klyntar makes _four_ . I don't think they could get much done with four minds arguing with each other.
@@fymal It kinda depends if you're talking about Venom or a Klyntar. Klyntars are naturally peaceful and will generally mimic their host's behavior. The reason Venom is so violent is because he bonded with a violent alien and then deadpool. Imagine what that does for someone's sanity.
1:01 Hey I recognize that guy! Hahaha, these are AWESOME!!! Wish I'd seen this earlier, I've got another episode on Venomized Ben 10 aliens coming out later today!
I'd expect the symbiote to have no effect on chromostone similarly to how the DNAlien tried to attach to chromostone in Alien Force Season 2, if I remember correctly.
That was diffrent as that was the omnitrix not chromastone but the omnitrix treat sentient different from other and since venom is always their it would absorb it
@@retaliation032 the dna alien tries rewrite the dna of the alien that not what venom does and carnage does that but only to save it host also the omnitrix protect again dna rewriting not but does enhance dna as well so venom could work in theory
I'm still rmebering about the benwolf after he was bitten/scratch by a spacewolf (its been a while since I've Seen the show to remember the spwcies name)
I'd see his transformation more as a biological version of Upgrade: Ben explicitly only becomes the symbiote and has to fuse with something or someone else to make it viable, vastly enhancing them in the process. That would create a unique challenge for this transformation during eras where he doesn't instinctively know his aliens' abilities. On its own this symbiote is pretty much a worse version of Goop - sure, as a mostly amorphous black blob it can fit through most gaps and is hard to damage, but it's weak, not especially fast and almost feels to suffocate. If fused with someone else however, they gain the classic Venom benefits: Increased strength, stamina, durability (against anything but heat and sound), as well as limited shape shifting and full sensory awareness of everything close to them. They share control over the body, communicating via a telepathy-like mind link - or the symbiote can try to dominate the host and take full control. In the original series Ben would try it out once, not understand its powers, and then never touch it again because he thinks it's useless. It would occasionally pop up as a failed transformation he then complains about - until late into the series, when he accidentally takes over one of the Villain of the Week's minions, venomizing it. Ben now recognizes its potential, but the mind control aspect and sharing another person's body freaks him out enough that he avoids using it unless he has to. That changes somewhat with Alien Force when he regains access to it, and Kevin suggests fusing with him. Between Kevin's Absorption powers and the symbiotic enhancements and shape shifting, they make for a one-man army when facing overwhelming forces, deepening their friendship in the process. Ben still mostly avoids fusing with anyone else though, at most another plumber or alien ally if they're willing (family members would be weird and he doesn't want to forcefully take over anyone), until one episode he ends up locked into the transformation, with Julie as the only viable host. While he doesn't want to do it at first, he is forced to fuse with her (creating a classic She-Venom form) which ultimately leads to a better understanding between them. Once Ben gets the Ultimatrix, things change, since he's now able to use the Ultimate form of the symbiote transformation. This Ultimate can no longer possess others, but instead allows Ben to pick one of the other compatible aliens to venomize. While they aren't quite on the level of their own Ultimates as far as their inherent abilities go, these transformations would benefit from increased strength, partial shapeshifting, improved durability and the symbiote's vastly enhanced senses, allowing entirely new uses for their powers. He is also able to switch the fused alien while transformed - but that takes several seconds, since the symbiotic mass needs to reshape between hosts, forcing Ben to use that ability strategically, not on the fly. I prefer having a Venom transformation as purely the symbiote (at least at baseline) because it introduces a huge drawback which can be used to great effect, narratively. It allows the episodes to play on morality, or give other characters the spotlight alongside Ben for a while, forcing him into a supporting role. It also prevents it from being just a better version of other aliens, for which you'd otherwise have to write a justification why he even uses their base forms... I'd also avoid the corruption aspect (aside from maybe slightly more reckless and direct behavior while transformed) and instead only hint at the possibility that Ben could puppeteer his hosts to do anything if he wanted. Maybe throw in Albedo doing exactly that to someone close to him for an episode.
I feel like ghostfreak was already very similar to venom. They both had a host who they influenced negatively before eventually breaking away from them
Visualax 2550 it should be a storyline like that where Ben loves and then one day he loses control and then the symbiote breaks free and hates because he thinks that he trapped him in there on purpose, but since Ben doesn’t know its weakness it takes a while for him to win
@@disneygamerdonut214 im not the only one who thought about this!! Yessss!! The question though is would the Omnitrix even change to Bot or Con or would it be a protoform or a neutral bot
I'd imagine he would actually say something along the lines of "let me tell you two things". Because I believe Derek J Wyatt said that if ben ever got ultimate wrath his catchphrase would probably be "Let me tell you five things".
My favorite trait of the Klyntars is their ability to retain the traits of their past hosts, meaning that if he were to bond with Chromastone, he'd develop a resistance to energy based attacks, or if he bonded with Feedback, the ability to retain and redirect energy and electricity
@@lancetheking7524 yeah the name kind of gives away how metal this venom is, he literally is a god capable of rewriting reality itself thanks to dna from multiple sources of said power, not quite Alien x level but pretty close, creating literal meat gardens to grow super soldiers to fight what is essentially a space celestial Skynet
I think the omnitrix will create a new life form like nano mech because the symbiote is considered incomplete in Earth's atmosphere. I think it will be the best to use it in the bi-omnitrix because whatever normal alien Ben would use it will have the symbiote. edit: if Ben 10k had to fight one of those symbiotes then he will use a fusion of Heatblast and Echo Echo
@@velvetdarksoul8741 the things the rip people's stomach from the inside? I haven't watched the movies yet but I don't see a reason for them not to be in the watch, I mean they are living creatures, right?
It all depends on what version of the Symbiote you’re dealing with to determine what effect it would have on Ben. For example, a long time before the introduction of Knull, it was revealed that the Klyntar (Venom’s species) are naturally peaceful and take on the personality traits of their hosts such as Venom. It’s for most notable host before he started to turn around were a warlord, a schizophrenic assassin, a superhero who is let’s face it not the most emotionally stable, and a roided up disgraced reporter.
Here's my interpretation of this: Like all symbiotes, it would be able to do what Upgrade does with machines, except with living things. I imagine Ben would go for either Parabite or Symbio, namewise I like the Shockrock idea that was mentioned
Another thing is that venom can absorb abilities from the host, most notably getting powers from Spider-Man meaning let’s say his previous host was humangusaur and currently bonded with heatblast then heatblast venom could turn massive and have super strength
If Ben had a symbiote in his omnitrix then he will have the most powerfull symbiote so prehaps he is stronger than anti venom but of course there are other factors
9:26 Electro is made entirely of Electricity but in Spider-Man: Web of Shadows when he got possessed, he was not weaker We also have the Electric Symbiontes in that same game For Homongosaur is hard to tell In the recent Venom Comics he was not able entirely to cover the Hulk But there is The Venomized T-Rex (From the Old Man Logan Comics) where Venom was able to take the entire body of the T-Rex (and Carnage is able to take multiple host at the same time, An entire town in a occasion And Ben 10's Symbiontes should be more near Toxin in Power Level than Venon Venom is the 998 Generation Toxin is the 1000 Generation) For Swampfire and Hellfire: I think that dude to the fact that he gets them from the Omnitrix, the Symbionte would not enter directly with the fire And would able to temporary pull a Venomized Hellfire/Swampfire Until Ben 10 goes full power and burn him off. Maybe this could be how Ben get free from the Symbionte the first time He became a Venomized Hellfire and Grandpa Max and Gwen make him angry until he does not burn the Symbionte off
min 9:18 "humongosaur is way too big for the symbiote to cover him..." Venom once bonded to and covered a MUTHAF***IN TYRANNOSAURUS!!! HOW IS HUMONGOSAUR TOO BIG!!!??
@@hayo_hru but they pointed it out as a problem with size when that clearly doesn't matter upgrade does the same on a larger scale so why wouldn't venom be able to as well
@@hayo_hru correction so far the limit is galactus but venom needs enough energy to create extra biomass to cover something that big which the omnitrix would provide that just like chromastone being able to shoot a beam right after transformation so really the size has no limits
Actually no. Galactus is gigantic to be sure, but he's actually not that big in the grand scheme of things; if I recall correctly, I think he's less than 50 feet tall by default.
In the new absolute carnage venom was not able to fully cover the hulk due to how big he is and im pretty sure that galactus story was out of continuity
Symbiotes are capable of producing extra biomass to an unknown degree. Characters like Venom and Mania have been able to create limbs, weapons and even grow themselves, several times larger than themselves a number of times in the comics.
@@MsClonetrooper i think it depends on how much energy they have. Like in absolute carnage since apparantly venom wss separated from Eddie for weeks so before bonding back to him in #1 of absolute carnage so maybe when it bonded to the hulk it could not cover his whole body fully
But at the same time they were made by some dark god named Knull that essentially made the Symbiotes to be some sort of god-killer or something. I might not read too many comics nowadays but I catch up on enough of them to get some cliff notes.
OH! imagine samus and tetrax teaming up? Or samus fighting the those number assasings sixsix, sevenseven,eighteight (twotwo can come as well) They could add a new final bounty hunter to that family with ninenine to up the stakes, then ben somehow gets A dna sample or something and becomes TENTEN
I'd imagine it occuring early in the Metroid timeline, sometime after MZM and Prime 1, maybe Hunters as well. Samus is easy to rope in: she takes up a bounty of an impressive sum of money to find some thing called an "Omnitrix". She passes the training course with flying colors, and they're dispatched to Earth. Events play out as normal but with a fourth bounty hunter. At no point during this, if it were the episode, would Samus' face be shown. Things change once Samus sees Ben time out, and she pauses. She realizes that she's taken up a job to murder a _child._ A human one, at that. At that point she does a complete 180 and, presumably with Tetrax, hunts down the other bounty hunters, and is effectively roped in. She leaves with Tetrax, but not without getting a metroid-style ending face reveal, and next shows up either as a cameo in Galactic Enforcers and/or Secret of the Omnitrix, where she would once again play a major role cause it's in space.
Siegius Empire She could show up again in Alien force and it could be during, like, Metroid Prime 3. Maybe there's Phazon that crashes onto the planet and there's a whole episode dedicated to getting rid of it.
Venom would move around like goop does when on the floor and launches himself the same way and venom could upgrade his allies abilities just like upgrade does to machines
A parasite transformation would actually be really cool. It would be like Upgrade expect for organic life that could leap from organic being to organic being and hijacking any lifeform's powers.
Yup that was his Merlinisapien transformation but presumably he said that as a joke but started to call him Chamalien when he showed up in Night of the Living Nightmare Ben 10 Ultimate Alien season 3 episode 17.
I get the feeling when 5YL Ben first transformed into Overkill with Gwen and Kevin nearby, they just remembered the conversation from Prisoner 775 is Missing and were all "Dammit, Ben."
He would be the symbiote not vemom which had a and needed a host plus all venom symbiote had and look was base of peter parker persona and abilities and just enhance it and entire venom symbioe was evolve over look spider-man entire look suit.
Actually the Symbiotes adapt to be able to bind to their host if needed. They will keep those adaptions ONLY for as long as they are bonded and will loose them afterwards. So they would definitely be able to bond with pretty much all aliens
I like some of the combos but a part of me just wants to see Venom on his own, and fusing with whatever organic life is nearby EDIT: To clarify, Ben turns into Overkill then fuses with a bug or one of his teammates. This is another comment that likes the idea of organic Upgrade.
Cameron Grow that’s what I’m saying just when Ben transforms have it attach to Ben like it does Eddie, and they could’ve had one more where it’s Ben 10K then they start mixing aliens
While I agree with a lot of the stuff they are saying they missed out on key details for the speculation, 1 they missed on the fact that venoms species is originally a kind species (when they were Tb the original Ben10 series they used the already corrupted version on venom) 2 the left out the part where the watch makes the transformation the pinnacle of that race so it wouldn’t be like venom it would be something like that times 1000 or something 3 if it did leak over on to other aliens it would most likely act more like “upgrade” but less technology it would be more physical weapons that the aliens could make instead of the tech weapons that “upgrade” gives
9:08 so in the comics, if a symbiote bonds to let's say ghost rider or johnny storm, it will be immune to the fire because it gains the hosts abilities. The omnitrix makes peak physical specimens of aliens, right?, and venom is considered relatively weak among symbiote so maybe it would have made a new klyntar. But imo the symbiote would have been devastating, it could have gained Ben's transformations and ditched him.
Ok, here's one for you, the Xenomorph. A addition to the parasite playlist, but with the problem that he has to resist the hive mind. Not to mention a arc all it's own. The "Xenowars". The Hivemind can actually gain mutations though the hivemind itself. If a particularly advantageous mutation is taken by a facehugger to make a new xenomorph, it can be incorporated into later generations. So, each time uses a alien, he's unwittingly making the hive stronger, and give them strategies to deal with aliens they normally would have a hard time with.
If you mean an ultabiomatrix (combination of ultimatrix and biomatrix) than it is possible but it would only be used as an all out last resort like against someone like Diagon
Blake Peters wait do you mean, a fusion of ultimate Alien X and Ultimate Atomix, or the previous option but you do a second go ultimate after they fuse.
Wait wait... is the name Overkill a reference to the episode in Ultimate Alien where Ben acquired Chamalien, and Ben named him Overkill at first to play on a snarky comment Gwen makes at the beginning of the episode? (I know that episode in particular way too well lol)
one thing that caught my mind was the idea that Ben's Venom would be like a "baby", Ben would have full control but Venom would be quietly learning from him. Because he would only be brought out to fight then the alien would grow to be more violent to the point Ben wonders why he's becoming more violent in that form. personally, how I'd see it played out would be Ben hears the alien and he has to teach it how to pick and choose fights, how to have kindness and sympathy, but that's just me lol
I think that in five years later Ben could have a feature that allows the parasite to adapt to the alien so heatblast, fire adaption Shocksquatch, electric adaptation
I actually had a couple alien ideas: Species: Solarian plaguas Ben's name: Locurst Size: finger long Appearance: Similar to locusts, with solid, attached mandibles and light yellow skin Powers: chewing through titanium; creating a sound that creates little energy clone beings that can form shapes, such as a massive Solarian plaguas, which can't be hurt but can bite; flight. Weakness: water Species: Impediodia Ben's name: Paralyhiss Size: roughly the size of an anaconda Appearance: snake, yellow eyes with snake pupil, lavendar scales, small spines lining back Powers: has a poison that completely paralyzes the body, which is secreted from the scales, in the fangs, and can be shot as a projectile from mouth; Can camouflage pretty much perfectly; can switch to infrared vision(eyes will become red) Weakness: Ambush predator, so it is not particularly fast or agile, Armour can prevent the poison from touching skin
To be technical, Klyntars become stronger through every generation, and they become stronger after every host as well, because they store the DNA of their Hosts in their body in order to make their next one stronger, hence venom being so strong despite the Symbiote only enhancing the Host's strengths. Due to this, Symbiotes can build a resistance to High vibrations and extreme temperatures by Bonding to hosts with a resistance or power related to said factors. Another thing that is brought up by it's continuous "Evolution", is that with all of the DNA in the Omnitrix, The Klyntar form could not only be brought to its prime, which would logically have venom's self induced acid productivity, healing, and strength, but also the complex Shape-shifting shown with Carnage and the antagonist of the Venom Movie, which I can't remember the name of. Not to mention the other natural abilities that developed through Venom's "Family Tree"(Carnage and forward)(I'm pretty sure their was one that naturally adapted to control Technology, being something akin to Upgrade in power, possibly stronger), but it would also gain immense power if it were to have any contact with the other DNA samples within the Omnitrix, Constantly evolving itself until it "catalogued" all of the DNA in the Omnitrix (Which is over a Million), making much stronger than any other Alien species known in that universe, possible even more so than The Celestial Sapians, as Alien X exists. Hence, Klyntars are very over-powered. Edit: I'm not 100% sure about this, but it's also been shown in media that Klyntars can seemingly expand and grow as much as they need to bond with a host, but I don't believe there's enough evidence to support it. My best example is The Web of Shadows videogames, where the final boss was a massive Venom. Though it is debatable if venom grew naturally, or through all of it's genetic copies that venom split off from itself in the game coming back together (They aren't offspring, I think, as they haven't gone rogue, so to speak, and aren't shown to be independently sentient. Again, not completely sure about this edit, so I could be wrong.
I have an idea for a new season of Ben 10 involving Overkill and the Klyntar Symbiotes. It works like Zs’skayr’s connection to Ghostfreak. It all starts out on a summer day (this is during the break between Omniverse and 5 Years Later) Ben encounters a Klyntar and it accidentally gets a part of it scanned into the Omnitrix, creating Overkill. Over time, Ben and Rook notice changes going on with Ben’s aliens and Ben begins to get concerned about it, as it seems to be that he’s getting a bit more violent than normal when those transformations happen. As Ben encounters more Symbiotes, Overkill begins to form itself as a combination of the DNA of all Symbiotes that Ben has met, and the final confrontation is with the Venom Symbiote, him being the most well recognized as a villain. This is where Ben and Overkill actually meet, and the two work out their differences and Ben transforms into Overkill to take Venom down. Ben and Overkill work together, with Overkill guiding Ben in being a Klyntar. Eventually, Ben and Overkill defeat Venom, but the Symbiote escapes, vowing to come back and wipe out both Ben and Overkill. Both Ben and Overkill agree that Venom will come back, but they’ll be ready for him. And the two walk away from the battlefield, stronger than ever.
Btw, as far as I remember, the klintar simbiots copy the power of every host and then give them to later hosts. That is the reason why Venom has the ability to stick to walls and the Peter tingle. So if it combines with Fourarms it will give Fourarms’ strength to other transformations, or accelerate’s speed, etc etc etc. so a klintar in the onmitrix would be a on a whole new level actually. If Ben transforms enough times he could just become Venom and win. The Onmitrix would become obsolete most of the times except for a few transformations like Alien X. And if aliens with fire based bodies and abilities can somehow cure klintar of the fire situation then that would be broken. By the end of season 1, Ben would be super strong, super fast, able to fly, survive underwater, control fire, be indestructible, see like wildmut. Ben Venom would be a stronger Kevin 11 in base form and probably would not need the omnitrix in the beginning.
Dude this is like my favorite video out of all your videos. I’ve always thought it would be awesome if an omnitrix wielder had this alien, which is why I’m thinking about making a video special about me with an omnitrix and having these capabilities, But don’t worry I’ll be sure to mention you in the description and make sure they know I got the idea from you
Any alien that Ben has that has heat and/or sonic sound abilities could likely mop the floor with Venom: so Heatblast, Swampfire, and Echo Echo. Although, I kinda like the idea of Venom facing off against Wildmutt since they both have savage vibes and personalities. Ghostfreak or Big Chill are also better options since Venom can't touch Ben if he's intangible.
For the Omnitrix feature of combining parasites with suitable hosts, my brain wants to call it the “Symbocite System.” Mainly because it creates a “Symbiotic” relationship with a parasite, if only for the sake of combat scenarios.
ya know, i have my OWN possible alien, called the stuffylin! it looks like a plush cat, but its bipedal and has two mandibles with a filter mouth. if a soft material is nearby, it can make it into a yarn/felt replica, which only lasts about a minute, and explodes when time is up. the name? either "lifeweave" or "cutiestuff"
I keep coming back to this video I just love the concept. Especially since the idea of Ben scanning a klyntar and getting the apex of the species would be amazing and if Ben was addicted to the usage and spent tons of time in symbiote form like you suggested he could end up accidentally spawning offspring like venom did with carnage and carnage did with toxin which could even play into the whole symbiote villain concept. Like what if it kind of parallels venom and carnage’s relationship where Ben’s symbiote offspring is more evil or messed up and attaches to one of his villains or even a new one. This channel always has such cool concepts in a lot of videos but this may be my favorite just because of all the potential story beats and general creative designs it could create.
I actually have a few ideas for this kind of thing: Original Series: Let’s say that The Omnitrix wasn’t the only thing being transported that day, that there was another transporter carrying a Venom symbiot, that Vilgax was the one carrying it. When the attack happened, both The Omnitrix and the Venom symbiot were sent out, when the two pods were in close contact, the Venom pod broke open and the symbiot crawled out of the pod and slipped into the pod with The Omnitrix, venomizing the device. Ben still finds The Omnitrix, now known as The Venomtrix, turning the aliens into venomized versions of themselves. Alien Force: Same idea as yours. Ultimate Alien: Albedo had venomized The Ultimatrix thanks to Vilgax having a sample of the symbiot and Albedo used it for The Ultimatrix. Omniverse: Instead of Khyber using Skurd, he uses a Venom symbiot and the symbiot attaches itself onto The Omnitrix, creating The Venomtrix. The Reboot: Same as Original Series.
because of a symbiote gaining qualities of their host, it could actually bond with heatblast(when cooled down) and be safe when he flames back up, he would also be able to bond with swampfire no problem due to swamfire not being constantly on fire, there is also no problem with size when it comes to bonding, humongusaur is also safe, as is waybig, feedback is similar to swampfire so its safe.
2:37 The symbiote itself isn't evil, The people they combined with are evil and that rubs off onto the Symbiote, So I don't know how that would make sense honestly, Sinceben might be an arrogant Kid but still a good person
10:36 is that a refrence the episode of Ultimate alien when ben gets Camelalien for the first time And the unfortunate one shot ultimate alien Ultimate Wildmutt
I noticed Wyatt once claimed Gwen 10 might have a Tamaranean form. If possible, I think Ben named her "Titan fire" as nod to Teen Titan and that all Tamaranean have the names end with fire. That could mean in Gweniverse, the Teen Titan coexist there, similar to Secret Saturdays coexist with Ben 10 in duplicate Universe and Generator Rex Reboot in the Reboot Universe.
Hey guys, addressing some info bits for this video:
1. We forgot to mention Klyntar's weakness to sonic frequencies, we had it in our notes but because this was mostly non scripted we were bouncing ideas off each other and forgot to mention it.
2. When we said size would be a limiter for what aliens would be compatible, we were speaking in the sense of 5 Years Later. Putting a narrative limiter on the alien so it wouldn't become too OP. Plus we thought about it from a genetic stand point: small amount of DNA cycled into a big body, likely to be washed out.
Same goes for fire and sound based aliens. Likely harmful to DNA, so won't work.
Other than that if you guys have other suggestions for What Ifs, or notes on this video, let us know. We'd love to hear them.
-O.R.Ash
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Why did they need to reboot ben 10 the reboot ben was an idiot and impatient and a moron
You guys should name the alien nightmare since nightmares are usually scary and mess with your head like the symbiote
Addressing the 2nd point. I don't really recall it ever being stated that the Omnitrix could do but reasonably if it could alter DNA and transform Ben into aliens wouldn't it be just as easy to replicate DNA, giving more of it to be able to cover Humungosaur?
@@muhammadamaar7936 he's busy
Personally, I would have called XLR8 with the symbiote "NIL8" (Annihilate).
I was thinking extreme speed, but yours fits way better, amazing job!
@@theinaccurateone5921 Thanks.
That's a really sick name
@@Omeganuts24 Thanks.
damn that's a cool name
Venom: *Exists*
Heatblast and Echo Echo's species: *It's free real estate*
Pyroblast?
Justin. Y worshiper do you mean heatblast of the pyronite speasies
@@itsshiep3732 That's cause they are.
Don’t know about that; the Symbiotes major canon weakness is fire, so a species that’s just a walking volcano would not be ideal.
@@futureblade6099 But his body isn't made up of the material he produces. I think it's more or less similar to the symbiote holding a gun and pulling the trigger for Nova's case.
I’d think Ben’s addiction to using Venom would be like when he kept using Feedback, but as a more severe obsession.
then he will lose the control of it, imagine what happen next 😲
Will Harangue: This is Will Harangue, of Will Harangue Nation. It appears Ben is a serial killer when he is in his symbiote form, Overkill. He starts killing every villain that ever walks the streets, never letting any live to tell their story. I say we should banish this psychotic killer once and for all!
Ben: Wait... What?
@@melvinfranco2142 Venom eats humans brains no matter they are innocent or a kid because he need a special type of chemical available only in human brain and chocolate and he have to atleast eat 10 humans brains a day if he don't he will lose his sanity and will become more savage and starts to eat his host from inside, so there could be a really good episode in which Ben don't let him eat humans and he also don't know venom can also chocolate and when Ben becomes venom he lose his sanity and then start killing people that will be a really good and dark episode
@@melvinfranco2142 oh my god if that actually happened it would be like Christmas a birthday and basically every happy childhood memory wrapped up into one for Harangue.
I don't think he'll lose control tho, Ben Isn't a bad person deep down, And symbiotes aren't Bad Either, they just reflect their hosts
The Klyntar aren't inherently aggressive. They take on the personality of their hosts, so if Ben was bonded with a fresh one, he wouldn't go bad necessarily, but would if was a symbiote that had previously bonded with a mentally unstable host
This is like Toxin symbionte from marvel where this new symbionte bonded with nypd officer and make him super hero unlike his "parent" Carnage who was bonded with serial killer.
How about if Ben were first host, reinforcing Ben's own Benness?
@@youtubeuniversity3638 then ben would become more arrogant and egotistical. As well as probably up 10 year old bens overeliance on brute strength. When he becomes an alien who can’t normally fight, the symbiote would become far more combative.
Like Deadpool for example.
@@chancebarker8129it was heavily implied that that’s how Venom got his personality
So he's just Upgrade but for biological beings only.
well, the symbiote can't survive in Earth's atmosphere for long periods of time without a host
Amit Barabi I think that might just be in the movie
@@pooppooper9033
I think it was also a thing in Spider-Man the animated series
Poop Pooper I think that’s almost all the marvel franchise
Do you not read marvel like at all?
You guys lost the chance to call him "BENom" LMAO. I love this video so much!
That would be his OS name. Like Benwolf and Benvictor
Benage mutant ninja turtle lol
He's actually called benom in Japan.
@Arigato, Gyro. Yeah but not their names are Blitzwolfer, Frankenstrike, and Snare-oh.
Why didn't I thought about that?
Generator rex: am I a joke to you?
the parasites: yes
Nah,man don't do that to Rex. He is such a cool guy
PARASITE?! >:(
@@bloodfinity Yeah
No generator rex with venom
I was thinking about that time Ben fused with Rex via Upgrade
There are few things that i know about klyntar:
1. They are capable of copying most powers of previous hosts
2. They instinctively have a want to be heroes but will sometimes go overboard in ways such as taking control of the hosts body at night not allowing the host to sleep.
3. They are easily corrupted by their hosts
4. They like chocolate
They like chocolate because of a certain chemical inside it that's shared with other materials, though chocolate is the safest option for anyone
@@devinjohnson9133 because if symbiotes don’t eat chocolate or brain matter they will go insane except for carnage because carnage is already insane
I know, because of hunger issues, a lack of that chemical causes them to go haywire if they aren't already unhinged
@@devinjohnson9133 imagine like there's a klyntar who's feeding on a bar of chocolate and then someone grabbed the bar and ate it without noticing the klyntar on it 😂😂😂 like oh my gosh!
Thatd be one weird or desperate person to eat a partially consumed chocolate bar thats randomly around
"OVERKILL!"
"...Ben, that joke is just as tasteless as it was five years ago."
Well that name is OVERKILL *buh dum ch*
Overkill was Chamalien
@@legoflashverselegendofspon4658 yes he said eh? eh?
Ben naming two of his aliens Overkill will make Azmuth facepalm
Symbiote Rath... That's either terrifying or hilarious
Both terrifying to enimies funny to outside and just intimidating to allies since he wouldn't attack allies but he would still be scary
Why not both?
Rath to venom: LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ALIEN GOO THING FROM OUTER SPACE, RATH WILL NOT BE A HOST FOR A GIANT BLACK LIZARD-TONGUE FREAK
U forgot to say awsome as one of them
Why not both
Venom X is one thing you'd never wanna hear....
Despite the capabilities that would have, I don't think there'd be much worry. There are already two minds inside a Celestialsapien. Ben makes three and a Klyntar makes _four_ . I don't think they could get much done with four minds arguing with each other.
what if venom corrupt the minds? they just only agreed on violence
@@fymal
It kinda depends if you're talking about Venom or a Klyntar. Klyntars are naturally peaceful and will generally mimic their host's behavior.
The reason Venom is so violent is because he bonded with a violent alien and then deadpool. Imagine what that does for someone's sanity.
If that happened he are FYCKED
I mean if Overkill became another mind in alien X he could agree with Ben every time and overrule the other 2.
5:58"Wanna re-watch Ben 10 for the 17th time"
HOW DID HE KNOW!?!!?!!
Lol
You mean the 10TH time get it?
Overkill, that name has layers considering Ben names camalien that as a joke when he first transformed
“This seems like a bit of overkill. Wait. Overkill... I like it!”
I was about to comment this until I saw yours... You have made a fearless enemy.
@@ryderruggles6267 Same here.
@@ryderruggles6267 ditto😂
When they said that I smiled
1:01 Hey I recognize that guy! Hahaha, these are AWESOME!!! Wish I'd seen this earlier, I've got another episode on Venomized Ben 10 aliens coming out later today!
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Hello there
I did not know u watch the ink tank
Hey popcross
Please do a venomized Ben 10 aliens part 2 I really want to see you draw swampfire with symbiote(Klyntar)
I'd expect the symbiote to have no effect on chromostone similarly to how the DNAlien tried to attach to chromostone in Alien Force Season 2, if I remember correctly.
That was diffrent as that was the omnitrix not chromastone but the omnitrix treat sentient different from other and since venom is always their it would absorb it
@@AMV_KINGDOM_mv no. The DNAlien had 0 affect on chromostone as it was on his face for a solid 10 seconds and he took it off like it was nothing.
@@retaliation032 the dna alien tries rewrite the dna of the alien that not what venom does and carnage does that but only to save it host also the omnitrix protect again dna rewriting not but does enhance dna as well so venom could work in theory
I'm still rmebering about the benwolf after he was bitten/scratch by a spacewolf (its been a while since I've Seen the show to remember the spwcies name)
Symbiotes kinda merge with the host. So it all comes down to what things like venom can merge with
I'd see his transformation more as a biological version of Upgrade: Ben explicitly only becomes the symbiote and has to fuse with something or someone else to make it viable, vastly enhancing them in the process. That would create a unique challenge for this transformation during eras where he doesn't instinctively know his aliens' abilities. On its own this symbiote is pretty much a worse version of Goop - sure, as a mostly amorphous black blob it can fit through most gaps and is hard to damage, but it's weak, not especially fast and almost feels to suffocate. If fused with someone else however, they gain the classic Venom benefits: Increased strength, stamina, durability (against anything but heat and sound), as well as limited shape shifting and full sensory awareness of everything close to them. They share control over the body, communicating via a telepathy-like mind link - or the symbiote can try to dominate the host and take full control.
In the original series Ben would try it out once, not understand its powers, and then never touch it again because he thinks it's useless. It would occasionally pop up as a failed transformation he then complains about - until late into the series, when he accidentally takes over one of the Villain of the Week's minions, venomizing it. Ben now recognizes its potential, but the mind control aspect and sharing another person's body freaks him out enough that he avoids using it unless he has to.
That changes somewhat with Alien Force when he regains access to it, and Kevin suggests fusing with him. Between Kevin's Absorption powers and the symbiotic enhancements and shape shifting, they make for a one-man army when facing overwhelming forces, deepening their friendship in the process. Ben still mostly avoids fusing with anyone else though, at most another plumber or alien ally if they're willing (family members would be weird and he doesn't want to forcefully take over anyone), until one episode he ends up locked into the transformation, with Julie as the only viable host. While he doesn't want to do it at first, he is forced to fuse with her (creating a classic She-Venom form) which ultimately leads to a better understanding between them.
Once Ben gets the Ultimatrix, things change, since he's now able to use the Ultimate form of the symbiote transformation. This Ultimate can no longer possess others, but instead allows Ben to pick one of the other compatible aliens to venomize. While they aren't quite on the level of their own Ultimates as far as their inherent abilities go, these transformations would benefit from increased strength, partial shapeshifting, improved durability and the symbiote's vastly enhanced senses, allowing entirely new uses for their powers. He is also able to switch the fused alien while transformed - but that takes several seconds, since the symbiotic mass needs to reshape between hosts, forcing Ben to use that ability strategically, not on the fly.
I prefer having a Venom transformation as purely the symbiote (at least at baseline) because it introduces a huge drawback which can be used to great effect, narratively. It allows the episodes to play on morality, or give other characters the spotlight alongside Ben for a while, forcing him into a supporting role. It also prevents it from being just a better version of other aliens, for which you'd otherwise have to write a justification why he even uses their base forms... I'd also avoid the corruption aspect (aside from maybe slightly more reckless and direct behavior while transformed) and instead only hint at the possibility that Ben could puppeteer his hosts to do anything if he wanted. Maybe throw in Albedo doing exactly that to someone close to him for an episode.
This makes for a very interesting take
I'd much prefer your take
Good idea
This is a great idea and I like it better.
I ain't reading allat.
5:17 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, EYES, LUNGS, PANCREAS, THERE ARE SO MANY SNACKS BUT SO LITTLE TIME AND THAT JUST MAKES RAGE MAD!!!!!
I could genuinely hear his voice screaming
I was JUST saying that as I was scrolling through the comments while the sponsor played XD
So is the voice rath’s or like venom rath voice?
@@thegreatmilenkograpeflavor1523 venom wrath’s
Lmaoo
I feel like ghostfreak was already very similar to venom. They both had a host who they influenced negatively before eventually breaking away from them
I used to dream about ghost freak being in our house as a kid but for some reason it wasn’t a terrifying nightmare it was kinda fine
If not ghost freak Upgrade
Visualax 2550 it should be a storyline like that where Ben loves and then one day he loses control and then the symbiote breaks free and hates because he thinks that he trapped him in there on purpose, but since Ben doesn’t know its weakness it takes a while for him to win
It would make sense if in the original series upgrade would be replaced by venom since he does the same thing but with people
@@lucasramey6427 tbh, I always thought that upgrade was kind of lame. Not saying useless, only lame. Venom would be a very cool and valid replacement
Here’s a name for the symbiote accelerate, Overclock
It's xlr8
@@TBG.1ID he goes by the saying of the name
@@mfirdanhb No it is XLR8, supposed to be said that way
@@stuartrobertkennedy8608 still is the same way by hearing it no difference
to make it hit more close to home, 0v3rcl0ck
Symbiotes can only turn their current host evil if the host that they were previosly attached had any negative emotions or evil thoughts
Exactly he got it from the bully 🤪
Imagine if Cash kept and gained control of the Techadon armor, he'd be this shows Agent Venom
Dude don't give me anymore Fanfiction ideas
@@velvetdarksoul8741 I challenge you to try.
@@velvetdarksoul8741
Link me please
@@velvetdarksoul8741 Too late! If you got one up, then share a link.
Imagine if a Transformer like Starscream was an alien in the omnitrix
Megatron, Predaking, and Prime would get in first
I always wonder what transformer would be in (my hopes are either bumblebee or a brand new one)
Most likely be a beastformer or minicon.
@@disneygamerdonut214 im not the only one who thought about this!! Yessss!!
The question though is would the Omnitrix even change to Bot or Con or would it be a protoform or a neutral bot
Velvet Darksoul egsactly
Venomized Rath: LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING YOU BEANIE-WEARING PANDA AND ARTIST GUY!! THERE'S NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN RAGE! CAUSE WE! ARE! RAGE!!!!!
I read that in rath voice
@@stephensharma5268 mixed with the Venom sound
I'd imagine he would actually say something along the lines of "let me tell you two things". Because I believe Derek J Wyatt said that if ben ever got ultimate wrath his catchphrase would probably be "Let me tell you five things".
@@richardthang5266 nope that was a while ago and I have fish memory lol
My favorite trait of the Klyntars is their ability to retain the traits of their past hosts, meaning that if he were to bond with Chromastone, he'd develop a resistance to energy based attacks, or if he bonded with Feedback, the ability to retain and redirect energy and electricity
Soooo Klyntars could theoretically be given every dna in the omnitrix and become the ultimate being.... noted
@@lancetheking7524 look up meatgardner venom, you have no idea just how right you are
@@damiansaturday6788 oh no 💀
@@lancetheking7524 yeah the name kind of gives away how metal this venom is, he literally is a god capable of rewriting reality itself thanks to dna from multiple sources of said power, not quite Alien x level but pretty close, creating literal meat gardens to grow super soldiers to fight what is essentially a space celestial Skynet
@@damiansaturday6788 I saw the powerscale now, gosh damn
I think the omnitrix will create a new life form like nano mech because the symbiote is considered incomplete in Earth's atmosphere.
I think it will be the best to use it in the bi-omnitrix because whatever normal alien Ben would use it will have the symbiote.
edit: if Ben 10k had to fight one of those symbiotes then he will use a fusion of Heatblast and Echo Echo
Like echoblast
@@disneygamerdonut214
this name is great
Thx I made it up on the spot
@@AmitCinematicUniverse I always wondered if Xenomorph DNA could be in the Omnitrix or Transformers since they do have some biology
@@velvetdarksoul8741
the things the rip people's stomach from the inside?
I haven't watched the movies yet but I don't see a reason for them not to be in the watch, I mean they are living creatures, right?
*Venom exist*
Echo echo, heat blast and swap fire:
*Hold the omnitrix*
Loads of people have done that comment before. You really don't have to carry it on.
Mark Mccusker ima do what i like to do lmao
feedback has an electricity sort of energy
Venom is weak to every plasma/energy sorta thing
@@JustTobi.. what a loser
@@eusetasshaji451 nobody asked B)
It all depends on what version of the Symbiote you’re dealing with to determine what effect it would have on Ben. For example, a long time before the introduction of Knull, it was revealed that the Klyntar (Venom’s species) are naturally peaceful and take on the personality traits of their hosts such as Venom. It’s for most notable host before he started to turn around were a warlord, a schizophrenic assassin, a superhero who is let’s face it not the most emotionally stable, and a roided up disgraced reporter.
Here's my interpretation of this:
Like all symbiotes, it would be able to do what Upgrade does with machines, except with living things.
I imagine Ben would go for either Parabite or Symbio, namewise
I like the Shockrock idea that was mentioned
If venom takes over heatblast he loses the fire weakness, this happens to the carnage symbiote in the comics with red goblin
Holy Moly. I didn't know that. That's interesting.
Venom echo venom echo
Another thing is that venom can absorb abilities from the host, most notably getting powers from Spider-Man meaning let’s say his previous host was humangusaur and currently bonded with heatblast then heatblast venom could turn massive and have super strength
@@C3H6N6O6. yeah like in ultimate spiderman, carnage (who is created from some of venoms dna) bonds with hulk and gets super strength
@@C3H6N6O6. so venom heatblast at that point can punch with 1 megaton of force this can get out of hand really quickly
The idea of Ben having no limit to what he can transform into with Venom.
He turns into heatblast and just like dies
10:10 XXD imagine slash just screaming during that and his voice goes in and out as he gets closer and farther away from you XXD
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
9:18 Actually, the symbiote can manipulate his size to seem more menacing
That's exactly what I was thinking oh and If Venom bond to somebody with one of his weaknesses as a power he loses his weakness to that power
@@just_sume_guy8364 I means if Venom can Venomized Galactus then so be it
@Theodore Arndt I remember that
"Humungusaur is way too big"
Hulk says otherwise.
Ay (becasse hes a big boi)
I can imagine Ultimate Venom just being Anti-Venom
OTDinosaur Scrubs I’m thinking antivenom color scheme, but gains carnage’s weapon forming ability.
actually, Anti Venom would be his natural predator, since AV was literally made to kill him
@@mandragon4847 what about carnage's duplication ability
I was thinking toxin
If Ben had a symbiote in his omnitrix then he will have the most powerfull symbiote so prehaps he is stronger than anti venom but of course there are other factors
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING THE INK TANK!!! RATH IS THE LAST ALIEN THAT NEEDS A VENOMISED VERSION!!!
9:26 Electro is made entirely of Electricity but in Spider-Man: Web of Shadows when he got possessed, he was not weaker
We also have the Electric Symbiontes in that same game
For Homongosaur is hard to tell
In the recent Venom Comics he was not able entirely to cover the Hulk
But there is The Venomized T-Rex (From the Old Man Logan Comics) where Venom was able to take the entire body of the T-Rex (and Carnage is able to take multiple host at the same time,
An entire town in a occasion
And Ben 10's Symbiontes should be more near Toxin in Power Level than Venon
Venom is the 998 Generation
Toxin is the 1000 Generation)
For Swampfire and Hellfire:
I think that dude to the fact that he gets them from the Omnitrix, the Symbionte would not enter directly with the fire
And would able to temporary pull a Venomized Hellfire/Swampfire
Until Ben 10 goes full power and burn him off.
Maybe this could be how Ben get free from the Symbionte the first time
He became a Venomized Hellfire and Grandpa Max and Gwen make him angry until he does not burn the Symbionte off
min 9:18 "humongosaur is way too big for the symbiote to cover him..."
Venom once bonded to and covered a MUTHAF***IN TYRANNOSAURUS!!!
HOW IS HUMONGOSAUR TOO BIG!!!??
It is a limiter for the Ben 10 universe, he clarified it later on
@@hayo_hru but they pointed it out as a problem with size when that clearly doesn't matter upgrade does the same on a larger scale so why wouldn't venom be able to as well
@@hayo_hru the limit so far is t-rex but I can guarantee that if venom can do that effortlessly something bigger wouldn't be a problem
@@hayo_hru correction so far the limit is galactus but venom needs enough energy to create extra biomass to cover something that big which the omnitrix would provide that just like chromastone being able to shoot a beam right after transformation so really the size has no limits
@@lucasramey6427 the limit is Galactus actually, but for the Ben 10 universe they gave it a limit at smaller than Humungousaur
9:19 actually, no. One time the symbiotie took control of galactus! And he’s 1000 times bigger than humongosaur
Actually no. Galactus is gigantic to be sure, but he's actually not that big in the grand scheme of things; if I recall correctly, I think he's less than 50 feet tall by default.
Brutalyte616 his size is inconsistent, as if I remember correctly he can easily change it.
In the new absolute carnage venom was not able to fully cover the hulk due to how big he is and im pretty sure that galactus story was out of continuity
Symbiotes are capable of producing extra biomass to an unknown degree. Characters like Venom and Mania have been able to create limbs, weapons and even grow themselves, several times larger than themselves a number of times in the comics.
@@MsClonetrooper i think it depends on how much energy they have. Like in absolute carnage since apparantly venom wss separated from Eddie for weeks so before bonding back to him in #1 of absolute carnage so maybe when it bonded to the hulk it could not cover his whole body fully
Wasn't it mentioned once that the Klyntar are actually rather docile by nature at first, but adopt new personalities based off their hosts?
But at the same time they were made by some dark god named Knull that essentially made the Symbiotes to be some sort of god-killer or something. I might not read too many comics nowadays but I catch up on enough of them to get some cliff notes.
@@Reapermaskhybridbingo
Omnitrix: has venom transformation
upgrade: am I a joke to you?
Can upgrade do said upgrading to biological organisms ( if so I cannot remember)
@@galadrinihrinor4863 He cant he is for non sentient tech only.
@@moyairock8743 danke schoen
Upgrade and ghostfreak are my favorite
@@galadrinihrinor4863 so venom just likely to be the upgrade of biology
Okay, hear me out...
Ben 10 + Metroid.
Though honestly Samus could easily slot into show 1 S1E5 considering it was all about bounty hunters
OH! imagine samus and tetrax teaming up? Or samus fighting the those number assasings sixsix, sevenseven,eighteight (twotwo can come as well) They could add a new final bounty hunter to that family with ninenine to up the stakes, then ben somehow gets A dna sample or something and becomes TENTEN
I'd imagine it occuring early in the Metroid timeline, sometime after MZM and Prime 1, maybe Hunters as well. Samus is easy to rope in: she takes up a bounty of an impressive sum of money to find some thing called an "Omnitrix". She passes the training course with flying colors, and they're dispatched to Earth. Events play out as normal but with a fourth bounty hunter. At no point during this, if it were the episode, would Samus' face be shown. Things change once Samus sees Ben time out, and she pauses. She realizes that she's taken up a job to murder a _child._ A human one, at that. At that point she does a complete 180 and, presumably with Tetrax, hunts down the other bounty hunters, and is effectively roped in. She leaves with Tetrax, but not without getting a metroid-style ending face reveal, and next shows up either as a cameo in Galactic Enforcers and/or Secret of the Omnitrix, where she would once again play a major role cause it's in space.
The x virus getting on the omnitrix
Or introduce her in Alien Force and we could get a huge Ship War
Siegius Empire She could show up again in Alien force and it could be during, like, Metroid Prime 3. Maybe there's Phazon that crashes onto the planet and there's a whole episode dedicated to getting rid of it.
Goop: Am l a joke to you?
Goop is an acid
YOU BOTH ARE IMPORTANT!
@@randomuser5443 Goop is not an acid but he can become an acid
Goop is alright but venom is better he is just like upgrade but he upgrades organic matter and has all sorts of crazy skills and powers
Venom would move around like goop does when on the floor and launches himself the same way and venom could upgrade his allies abilities just like upgrade does to machines
A parasite transformation would actually be really cool. It would be like Upgrade expect for organic life that could leap from organic being to organic being and hijacking any lifeform's powers.
Did anyone thought that there's already a alien named overkill
Yup that was his Merlinisapien transformation but presumably he said that as a joke but started to call him Chamalien when he showed up in Night of the Living Nightmare Ben 10 Ultimate Alien season 3 episode 17.
I thought they're already was a venom symbiote named Overkill
Overkill would be a Stich clone
Experiment 10 would be the omnitrix name for it.
Lol 🤣
I get the feeling when 5YL Ben first transformed into Overkill with Gwen and Kevin nearby, they just remembered the conversation from Prisoner 775 is Missing and were all "Dammit, Ben."
Title: What if Venom was a Ben 10 Alien?
Me: well that would be the most (censor) transformation ever but also the scariest transformation ever
Was that in a good way or a trash way
@@befirstorbelast992 venom way
He would be the symbiote not vemom which had a and needed a host plus all venom symbiote had and look was base of peter parker persona and abilities and just enhance it and entire venom symbioe was evolve over look spider-man entire look suit.
@@befirstorbelast992 don't worry I meant it in a good way 😂
@@elenatheartistandgamer2001 wow and it only took you 4 months to figure that out, good job
5:03 Wrath is already angry so his name just being Rage makes sense
Edit because that’s all Wrath feels now Rage
When venom ate the little drone guy at 6:22 that made me fall out of my chair
His name is R300 Orion IT system but you can call him HORUS
9:19, the symbiote took over an entire T-Rex in the comics lmao. Course, this was the Old man Logan universe, but still. It’s not too hard to believe.
he has also fused with a ghost-rider infused Red Hulk so there's that.
Damn it’s a long ass wait
Hey , a friend of mine sent this video to me, thanks for featuring some of my art at 1:03
Actually the Symbiotes adapt to be able to bind to their host if needed. They will keep those adaptions ONLY for as long as they are bonded and will loose them afterwards. So they would definitely be able to bond with pretty much all aliens
I'm expecting a joke about Overkill's name in reference to Chamalien's ep.
I like some of the combos but a part of me just wants to see Venom on his own, and fusing with whatever organic life is nearby
EDIT: To clarify, Ben turns into Overkill then fuses with a bug or one of his teammates. This is another comment that likes the idea of organic Upgrade.
"stop hitting yourself"
Cameron Grow that’s what I’m saying just when Ben transforms have it attach to Ben like it does Eddie, and they could’ve had one more where it’s Ben 10K then they start mixing aliens
It would be the same as when ben upgraded Rex and it would be amazing
While I agree with a lot of the stuff they are saying they missed out on key details for the speculation, 1 they missed on the fact that venoms species is originally a kind species (when they were Tb the original Ben10 series they used the already corrupted version on venom) 2 the left out the part where the watch makes the transformation the pinnacle of that race so it wouldn’t be like venom it would be something like that times 1000 or something 3 if it did leak over on to other aliens it would most likely act more like “upgrade” but less technology it would be more physical weapons that the aliens could make instead of the tech weapons that “upgrade” gives
9:08 so in the comics, if a symbiote bonds to let's say ghost rider or johnny storm, it will be immune to the fire because it gains the hosts abilities. The omnitrix makes peak physical specimens of aliens, right?, and venom is considered relatively weak among symbiote so maybe it would have made a new klyntar. But imo the symbiote would have been devastating, it could have gained Ben's transformations and ditched him.
Benzarro also turned into Gutrot when he was about to get erased.
That was Nega Ben (Emo Ben)
I feel if Heatblast was cooled down by water the Symbiote could temporarily Venomize Heatblast
Actually if Venom bonded with Heatblast he'd gain imunity to fire
due to getting attributes of the host ( a thing symbiotes do) he would be immune to fire
Hm didn't know that
But heat blast develops heat so it would be impossible
@@TBG.1ID then bond when Ben has a cold.
Oh boy. I can see it now. 5YL Ben turning into it, announcing "OVERKILL!", & Gwen and Kev just give him a look.
I *HOPE* that happens
And then overkill becomes pregnant
Ok, here's one for you, the Xenomorph. A addition to the parasite playlist, but with the problem that he has to resist the hive mind. Not to mention a arc all it's own. The "Xenowars". The Hivemind can actually gain mutations though the hivemind itself. If a particularly advantageous mutation is taken by a facehugger to make a new xenomorph, it can be incorporated into later generations. So, each time uses a alien, he's unwittingly making the hive stronger, and give them strategies to deal with aliens they normally would have a hard time with.
If ben had the ultamatrix and the biometrix could he combine ultimate alien x and atomixs together and then turn that into an ultimate form?
If you mean an ultabiomatrix (combination of ultimatrix and biomatrix) than it is possible but it would only be used as an all out last resort like against someone like Diagon
Ye
Blake Peters wait do you mean, a fusion of ultimate Alien X and Ultimate Atomix, or the previous option but you do a second go ultimate after they fuse.
Well I don't think that atomixs has a ultimate forme and there is a video on ink tank talking about ultimate alien x
But that's what i got from what he was trying to say and it would be a cool idea
Imagine how awesome the Knull storyline would be if Ben had a Klyntar transformation.
Wait wait... is the name Overkill a reference to the episode in Ultimate Alien where Ben acquired Chamalien, and Ben named him Overkill at first to play on a snarky comment Gwen makes at the beginning of the episode? (I know that episode in particular way too well lol)
Same I’ve been scrolling for a while trying to find a comment on this but your the first I found
Can we just appreciate how AWESOME the art is.
one thing that caught my mind was the idea that Ben's Venom would be like a "baby", Ben would have full control but Venom would be quietly learning from him. Because he would only be brought out to fight then the alien would grow to be more violent to the point Ben wonders why he's becoming more violent in that form. personally, how I'd see it played out would be Ben hears the alien and he has to teach it how to pick and choose fights, how to have kindness and sympathy, but that's just me lol
This video: Exists
Me: You guys are gonna put a klyntar in 5YL arent ya?
EDIT: *I W A S R I G H T*
I really want to see a venomized Monki, of course this probably wouldn't work out so well with the whole Ki based attacks thing
I don't think it's in 5yrs later
What chapter?
@@jordannino1836 you mean which, right!?
I think that in five years later Ben could have a feature that allows the parasite to adapt to the alien so heatblast, fire adaption Shocksquatch, electric adaptation
I actually had a couple alien ideas:
Species: Solarian plaguas
Ben's name: Locurst
Size: finger long
Appearance: Similar to locusts, with solid, attached mandibles and light yellow skin
Powers: chewing through titanium; creating a sound that creates little energy clone beings that can form shapes, such as a massive Solarian plaguas, which can't be hurt but can bite; flight.
Weakness: water
Species: Impediodia
Ben's name: Paralyhiss
Size: roughly the size of an anaconda
Appearance: snake, yellow eyes with snake pupil, lavendar scales, small spines lining back
Powers: has a poison that completely paralyzes the body, which is secreted from the scales, in the fangs, and can be shot as a projectile from mouth; Can camouflage pretty much perfectly; can switch to infrared vision(eyes will become red)
Weakness: Ambush predator, so it is not particularly fast or agile, Armour can prevent the poison from touching skin
your one of the only channels that makes add's fun to watch
To be technical, Klyntars become stronger through every generation, and they become stronger after every host as well, because they store the DNA of their Hosts in their body in order to make their next one stronger, hence venom being so strong despite the Symbiote only enhancing the Host's strengths. Due to this, Symbiotes can build a resistance to High vibrations and extreme temperatures by Bonding to hosts with a resistance or power related to said factors.
Another thing that is brought up by it's continuous "Evolution", is that with all of the DNA in the Omnitrix, The Klyntar form could not only be brought to its prime, which would logically have venom's self induced acid productivity, healing, and strength, but also the complex Shape-shifting shown with Carnage and the antagonist of the Venom Movie, which I can't remember the name of. Not to mention the other natural abilities that developed through Venom's "Family Tree"(Carnage and forward)(I'm pretty sure their was one that naturally adapted to control Technology, being something akin to Upgrade in power, possibly stronger), but it would also gain immense power if it were to have any contact with the other DNA samples within the Omnitrix, Constantly evolving itself until it "catalogued" all of the DNA in the Omnitrix (Which is over a Million), making much stronger than any other Alien species known in that universe, possible even more so than The Celestial Sapians, as Alien X exists.
Hence, Klyntars are very over-powered.
Edit: I'm not 100% sure about this, but it's also been shown in media that Klyntars can seemingly expand and grow as much as they need to bond with a host, but I don't believe there's enough evidence to support it. My best example is The Web of Shadows videogames, where the final boss was a massive Venom. Though it is debatable if venom grew naturally, or through all of it's genetic copies that venom split off from itself in the game coming back together (They aren't offspring, I think, as they haven't gone rogue, so to speak, and aren't shown to be independently sentient.
Again, not completely sure about this edit, so I could be wrong.
I have an idea for a new season of Ben 10 involving Overkill and the Klyntar Symbiotes. It works like Zs’skayr’s connection to Ghostfreak. It all starts out on a summer day (this is during the break between Omniverse and 5 Years Later) Ben encounters a Klyntar and it accidentally gets a part of it scanned into the Omnitrix, creating Overkill. Over time, Ben and Rook notice changes going on with Ben’s aliens and Ben begins to get concerned about it, as it seems to be that he’s getting a bit more violent than normal when those transformations happen. As Ben encounters more Symbiotes, Overkill begins to form itself as a combination of the DNA of all Symbiotes that Ben has met, and the final confrontation is with the Venom Symbiote, him being the most well recognized as a villain. This is where Ben and Overkill actually meet, and the two work out their differences and Ben transforms into Overkill to take Venom down. Ben and Overkill work together, with Overkill guiding Ben in being a Klyntar. Eventually, Ben and Overkill defeat Venom, but the Symbiote escapes, vowing to come back and wipe out both Ben and Overkill. Both Ben and Overkill agree that Venom will come back, but they’ll be ready for him. And the two walk away from the battlefield, stronger than ever.
Btw, as far as I remember, the klintar simbiots copy the power of every host and then give them to later hosts. That is the reason why Venom has the ability to stick to walls and the Peter tingle.
So if it combines with Fourarms it will give Fourarms’ strength to other transformations, or accelerate’s speed, etc etc etc. so a klintar in the onmitrix would be a on a whole new level actually. If Ben transforms enough times he could just become Venom and win. The Onmitrix would become obsolete most of the times except for a few transformations like Alien X. And if aliens with fire based bodies and abilities can somehow cure klintar of the fire situation then that would be broken. By the end of season 1, Ben would be super strong, super fast, able to fly, survive underwater, control fire, be indestructible, see like wildmut. Ben Venom would be a stronger Kevin 11 in base form and probably would not need the omnitrix in the beginning.
Dude this is like my favorite video out of all your videos. I’ve always thought it would be awesome if an omnitrix wielder had this alien, which is why I’m thinking about making a video special about me with an omnitrix and having these capabilities, But don’t worry I’ll be sure to mention you in the description and make sure they know I got the idea from you
Upgrade but with organisms instead of technology
Same thought dude exact same thought
Upgrade is op
dalek caan yeah he can fight on his own by
Transforming his arms into spiked mace hands and shoot lasers from his eye
@@atomic-art its been shown that galvanic mecamorphs can reproduce highly advanced technology
I wonder if he would transform into the symbiote or bond with it's DNA through the Omnitrix.
I think the thing that happened with benwolf would probably be fixed with the completed omnitrix
I prefer the idea that he's a variant of upgrade since there's a bunch of other aliens that are variants of his original aliens with their own quirks
It depends on the symbois and much Advanced or powerful symbois is. some don't need a host to have a solid form.
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Thought this sponser was gonna be about protection in bed. XD
Love this video! I love doing this sort of discussion with my friends. Please do more like this!!!
I wonder what Ben would look like if he transformed into a Toa from the bionical franchise
Any alien that Ben has that has heat and/or sonic sound abilities could likely mop the floor with Venom: so Heatblast, Swampfire, and Echo Echo. Although, I kinda like the idea of Venom facing off against Wildmutt since they both have savage vibes and personalities. Ghostfreak or Big Chill are also better options since Venom can't touch Ben if he's intangible.
For the Omnitrix feature of combining parasites with suitable hosts, my brain wants to call it the “Symbocite System.”
Mainly because it creates a “Symbiotic” relationship with a parasite, if only for the sake of combat scenarios.
Ink tank: haha we call this venom transformation Overkill
Chamalien: am I a joke to you
ya know, i have my OWN possible alien, called the stuffylin! it looks like a plush cat, but its bipedal and has two mandibles with a filter mouth. if a soft material is nearby, it can make it into a yarn/felt replica, which only lasts about a minute, and explodes when time is up. the name? either "lifeweave" or "cutiestuff"
I like the idea of Ben turning into a symbiote and going on to like Kevin or Rook.
Or Danny In 5YL
Thank you
I keep coming back to this video I just love the concept. Especially since the idea of Ben scanning a klyntar and getting the apex of the species would be amazing and if Ben was addicted to the usage and spent tons of time in symbiote form like you suggested he could end up accidentally spawning offspring like venom did with carnage and carnage did with toxin which could even play into the whole symbiote villain concept. Like what if it kind of parallels venom and carnage’s relationship where Ben’s symbiote offspring is more evil or messed up and attaches to one of his villains or even a new one. This channel always has such cool concepts in a lot of videos but this may be my favorite just because of all the potential story beats and general creative designs it could create.
I actually have a few ideas for this kind of thing:
Original Series:
Let’s say that The Omnitrix wasn’t the only thing being transported that day, that there was another transporter carrying a Venom symbiot, that Vilgax was the one carrying it. When the attack happened, both The Omnitrix and the Venom symbiot were sent out, when the two pods were in close contact, the Venom pod broke open and the symbiot crawled out of the pod and slipped into the pod with The Omnitrix, venomizing the device. Ben still finds The Omnitrix, now known as The Venomtrix, turning the aliens into venomized versions of themselves.
Alien Force:
Same idea as yours.
Ultimate Alien:
Albedo had venomized The Ultimatrix thanks to Vilgax having a sample of the symbiot and Albedo used it for The Ultimatrix.
Omniverse:
Instead of Khyber using Skurd, he uses a Venom symbiot and the symbiot attaches itself onto The Omnitrix, creating The Venomtrix.
The Reboot:
Same as Original Series.
5:16 Even with that voice Rath is still hilarious
What if the symbiote had the grendel upgrade similar to carnage.
T sqaured that would be the ultimate form in ultimate alien for sure
because of a symbiote gaining qualities of their host, it could actually bond with heatblast(when cooled down) and be safe when he flames back up, he would also be able to bond with swampfire no problem due to swamfire not being constantly on fire, there is also no problem with size when it comes to bonding, humongusaur is also safe, as is waybig, feedback is similar to swampfire so its safe.
2:37 The symbiote itself isn't evil, The people they combined with are evil and that rubs off onto the Symbiote, So I don't know how that would make sense honestly, Sinceben might be an arrogant Kid but still a good person
2:50 Oh god it's a cursed image ;-;
Humangasaur is actually just big enough for the venom to cover him cause venom covered a T. rex before
He even bonded with Galactius so Humungousaur is tiny
Venom doesn't really have a limit
A t-rex and humangasaur are the same in height, but remember how he can become 6 times bigger? They mean he can't cover the 6 times one normally.
@@kettlegod he's covered Galactus
They limited it so no one points out that waybig + overkill, that'd be way overpowered
I see what you did there naming him overkill. I love the reference
3:22 road kill
I prefer EXODIA OBLITERATE (or speed demon the name I have for my oc’s transformation)
Damn venom is way too popular now hes all over ben
Edit: id love to see a venomized blitzwolfer
10:36 is that a refrence the episode of Ultimate alien when ben gets Camelalien for the first time
And the unfortunate one shot ultimate alien Ultimate Wildmutt
He Shows In The Finale Of UA(Ultimate Wild mutt)
Someone make a fanfic about this. THIS NEEDS TO BE A THING.
10:30 is this a reference to ultimate alien where ben transformed into swamp fire and yelled "OVERKILLL!!!!!"
Chamailien
5:15 OH GOD THE BEAUTIFUL HORROR 😵🤣
Edit: Overkill? I have a better name: KillTorn (from Klyntar)
Edit: Could you imagine Venomized Ultimate alien?!?
ULTIMATE OVAKILL
Overkill! That's the name ben thought of when he first transformed into chamealien
Overkill i like the name and it sounds awesome :)
Awesome video and awesome idea
I noticed Wyatt once claimed Gwen 10 might have a Tamaranean form. If possible, I think Ben named her "Titan fire" as nod to Teen Titan and that all Tamaranean have the names end with fire. That could mean in Gweniverse, the Teen Titan coexist there, similar to Secret Saturdays coexist with Ben 10 in duplicate Universe and Generator Rex Reboot in the Reboot Universe.