I do not lack courage. I just have nowhere to turn. I tried. The police even had CCTV at one point but did nothing. Those monsters have gone on to perform at music festivals. I dread to think how many they've attacked. Justice came to Gisele and I'm glad for her, but that's unique.
Brilliant episode. I’m American watching from the states and I wish we could have these heart wrenching conversations here but this story has barely gotten coverage. THIS is what listening to women looks like. Thank you for this episode!
10:48 This is quite disrespectful, to try to take the victim's mind apart... 'Why is she so strong?' is a weird question, like she's expected to be weak. Why would she be? Are all women still expected to be weak? Care more about justice and most importantly prevention! So why did he do this to her? It's got nothing to do with HER being weak or inferior. HE violated her SELF, body, marriage, trust, dreams, life trajectory, surely friends & family, too ... PS: But then, I've never understood the shame regarding this, they did nothing wrong! I can get maybe not getting enough support and healing, but the perpetrators and anybody who refused to help or looked away should be the ones to feel ashamed!
This is a step often taken by someone who has lost everything and nothing more to lose so she just walks through fire. Also a MOTHER who sees the need to somehow protect her children and grandchildren, which only a mother can do.
1:03:58 This woman knows what's up! The looking the other way out of respect but being misunderstood, being accused or deemed to not need help, trying to become independent citizens... Trying to keep up your courage and keep explaining. It's so hard and exhausting! Any traumatised person will be very defensive to protect themselves... For a reason. 👏👏👏 She understood how it works! Support! All of this can be helped and rectified!
Mysogony is everywhere,even judges asking a victim how they were dressed,women are hysterical all the innuendos women have to put up with,Women have had to explain themselves,did you lead the man on? Theres too many to mention,judged on any mental health issues in the past? Attention seeking..etc.,
It should. It should also make male's understand why women choose the bear. It should also stop male's making vile derogatory comment's about her and to all women, but it hasn't.
I feel for all these women and females that has been graped,$uxually assaulted but imagine the boys and men that got it happened to them by women..it was happening to a friend of mine in high school and we laughed at him because it was to us that women can't do it to boys/men and as teenagers boys that like a fantasy to having a mature,older woman come you but as an adult it happened to me and was laughing at by the police when I tried to make an report..so this is sad but so many victims of all genders has the society shame fear on us..
ABTN is a very difficult issue. Never been in that place. But I ain't gonna tell you what you should do when I have a plank in my eye. (Jesus in Matthew 7.)
You use the work magnificent to describe these crimes...do not use words that have positive conotations. These crimes are horrific, devistating and mind boggling, there's nothing positive about this case.
Purely Mystery Hour question: Did we get an answer to the dog in the bamboo question? Cos just the day before my neighbour Jake said to look at Benji. The neighbour's dog was in a trance walking around some pampas grass, very similar to bamboo. It was odd. We put it down to something in dog's evolution. Appreciate any answer :)
James, no one cares that you are sorry...it sounds so condescending, like it matters to anything that you are sorry!. No one needs your pity. A respectful silence will suffice.
I do not lack courage. I just have nowhere to turn. I tried. The police even had CCTV at one point but did nothing. Those monsters have gone on to perform at music festivals. I dread to think how many they've attacked.
Justice came to Gisele and I'm glad for her, but that's unique.
“I’m not a victim anymore, I’m a survivor.” I loved that woman’s testimony and input.
Let's not forget more men were involved but not identifiable so it was more than 50.
Brilliant episode. I’m American watching from the states and I wish we could have these heart wrenching conversations here but this story has barely gotten coverage. THIS is what listening to women looks like. Thank you for this episode!
She did it for all women, before and after.
10:48 This is quite disrespectful, to try to take the victim's mind apart... 'Why is she so strong?' is a weird question, like she's expected to be weak. Why would she be? Are all women still expected to be weak? Care more about justice and most importantly prevention! So why did he do this to her? It's got nothing to do with HER being weak or inferior. HE violated her SELF, body, marriage, trust, dreams, life trajectory, surely friends & family, too ...
PS: But then, I've never understood the shame regarding this, they did nothing wrong! I can get maybe not getting enough support and healing, but the perpetrators and anybody who refused to help or looked away should be the ones to feel ashamed!
Remarkable is to small a word for this woaman,may the rest of her life be wonderful
This is a step often taken by someone who has lost everything and nothing more to lose so she just walks through fire. Also a MOTHER who sees the need to somehow protect her children and grandchildren, which only a mother can do.
Brilliant show- all these women metaphorically taking their glasses off and letting their eyes resolutely shine. And hats off to Eleanor!!
I think she is heroic but her being heroic doesn't make other victims not heroic. There are many ways to ro be heroic.
Victiims might have more courage, if the convction rate ws higher.
True dat
They would have the courage if the police, lawyer's, court's and people, mainly male's, didn't retraumatise them.
1:03:58 This woman knows what's up! The looking the other way out of respect but being misunderstood, being accused or deemed to not need help, trying to become independent citizens... Trying to keep up your courage and keep explaining. It's so hard and exhausting!
Any traumatised person will be very defensive to protect themselves... For a reason.
👏👏👏 She understood how it works! Support! All of this can be helped and rectified!
Gisele Peicot has disowned the shame expeccted of wonen, and placed it where it belongs, with the perpetrators.
Yes. I am very sorry.
Chosing between bear and man i will allways prefere the bear 😢
She's absolutely amazing 😢
Her honour: because that indicates strength of the body and spirit and mind…
1:02:40 Break The Silence! That's right! 💜😊
Principled dignity is part of the description.
I loved the days when kids loved their parents, cops were respected and boys were boys and girls were girls. For many of us, that is still true.
Tough Listening But Essential .
Mysogony is everywhere,even judges asking a victim how they were dressed,women are hysterical all the innuendos women have to put up with,Women have had to explain themselves,did you lead the man on? Theres too many to mention,judged on any mental health issues in the past? Attention seeking..etc.,
Goes all the way back to Adam and Eve. No one blamed the snake.
Pretty sure Genesis 3 blames the snake.
Why in the uk is it a common thing that if you lose a child and get the right press attention you get to make a law. It’s not a solid way to govern
The first court scene in the movie "the devil's advocate"traumatized me from first time saw it years ago till now..
This particular story,just for once,should transcend the left versus right hostilites.
It should. It should also make male's understand why women choose the bear. It should also stop male's making vile derogatory comment's about her and to all women, but it hasn't.
Typical male response
Years on , I still get scared of that mug. Either is James an elf or ... c'mon
I feel for all these women and females that has been graped,$uxually assaulted but imagine the boys and men that got it happened to them by women..it was happening to a friend of mine in high school and we laughed at him because it was to us that women can't do it to boys/men and as teenagers boys that like a fantasy to having a mature,older woman come you but as an adult it happened to me and was laughing at by the police when I tried to make an report..so this is sad but so many victims of all genders has the society shame fear on us..
ABTN is a very difficult issue. Never been in that place. But I ain't gonna tell you what you should do when I have a plank in my eye. (Jesus in Matthew 7.)
"your language may be a little Anglo Saxon," says JO'B. Double - German then James.
You use the work magnificent to describe these crimes...do not use words that have positive conotations. These crimes are horrific, devistating and mind boggling, there's nothing positive about this case.
What's arva pati?
Purely Mystery Hour question: Did we get an answer to the dog in the bamboo question? Cos just the day before my neighbour Jake said to look at Benji. The neighbour's dog was in a trance walking around some pampas grass, very similar to bamboo. It was odd. We put it down to something in dog's evolution. Appreciate any answer :)
2:22:18 is your timestamp.
48:22 Not shocked.
@twisted dance7773 He mentioned it at the time.
James, no one cares that you are sorry...it sounds so condescending, like it matters to anything that you are sorry!. No one needs your pity. A respectful silence will suffice.
Did you eat that bloke in the thumbnail
Argumentum ad hominem is a sign of cultism