My favorite stove. I use the Tri-plex support. If I were to use a much larger pot (group cooking), I'd use the 4-Plex. But, I've never done that. I feel that the Soto Windmaster is superior to the MSR PocketRocket Deluxe. It is lighter (w/ Tri-plex) & it has closer spacing from the burner head to the pot (10mm vs 13mm). I would expect it to perform better (less potential for heat loss) over the PR Deluxe. I thought the stuff sack was too robust & I replaced it w/ a lighter one from Z-packs. No problems w/ the Cuben Fiber stuff sack yet. I recently bought the PR Deluxe & will try it out in a couple of weeks. I am a stove geek as well.
I recently purchased one after watching my friend boil water before my stove, also butane based, had just warmed the water a little. My old stove was not wind resistant/proof, and did the job. After using this stove a few times in the field, I find it to be a great product, and upgrade, and will not be going back. The bag is okay with me, as I tend to put my burner in my cooking pot with other things.
I paired my SOTO Windmaster with a 900ml pot that has a heat exchange (or flux ring) on the bottom, much like a jet boil pot, and it boiled a full pot of water in about 2min. It was very impressive.
I purchased the Soto Windmaster based on your review and I haven't been disappointed. I team the Windmaster with my Firebox nano and the 5" Gen2 and I think I have the best options available. You do an excellent job of reviewing and objectively analyzing the pros and cons. By far the best You Tube channel for stoves.
I recently purchased both the Soto Amicus, and the Soto Windmaster...damn. Both put out very close BTU's, but the Amicus' head is a tad smaller, so those BTU's look like a blow torch vs the Windmaster. But the Windmaster is amazing to view full on. I'd say Amicus for ultralite solo, and Windmaster for two, or larger pots.
Wish you would have tried it where it really shines, in the wind. Greatest stove ever made for the real world. Hopefully you will do this in the comparison test you mention.
Have had one for years now, great stove. A little taller than I like but needed to regulate and the concave burner head is a plus.. just use a canister brace. Probably the best one out of the ten or so I have.
Good video, but I have to say that I am surprised that you didn't do any kind of test of its ability to withstand the wind (as you have with other stoves). I love my Windmaster stove for all the reasons you mentioned--plus, how great it performs in the wind.
My Soto Amicus came in a reasonably heavy-duty small nylon bag. It's fine but I agree that a hard sided case makes far more sense for something with thin metal parts and connections. A pill bottle can make a good protective case, especially the larger size of the transparent prescription orange ones. I do like the nice hard plastic case the MSr Pocket Rocket 2 came with which allows just enough room for a Bic mini or small firesteel. I think the Soto is a superior stove though.
Looks like a great stove Dr. Ernie; we live in the mountains and wind is often a problem. Also live in fire danger area where a shutoff valve is often the only kind of stove permitted. Again thanks for a great informative video.
My Soto Amicus came in a pretty rugged nylon bag. Sturdier than the sack the Windmaster comes in, but definitely NOT a hard case. I believe you may be mistaking that with the hard white-ish case the Snow Peak Giga stove comes in. Me personally… the hard cases stay at home. Take too much space, and I like to stuff my bagged stove into my pot/cup. Great review otherwise. Please, keep up the objective and informative reviews.
Great review. The manufactures video of the Windmaster being hit with a gas leaf blower is most impressive and makes me want to kick my BSR to the curb. Looking forward to your comparisons
*It's about time!!!* (kidding) 😂 It's not a whole lot different from the Amicus, from what I can tell. Looking forward to your side-by-side of the two for us soon. As much as I love my Windmaster, I'll probably end up buying the Amicus soon too, regardless. Thanks and stay well, Ernie.
Reason I purchased this after looking online is in the name Windmaster, so yes similar to other stoves but in the wind even a breeze I think this trump's others.
Can you do a side by side review of the Soto Windmaster and the campingmoon version of it? I have the campingmoon and would to see how it stacks up in comparison. Thank you.
Great Video i love my Windmaster i brought the Flat cat windshield for it to just has a bonus wieght is very light so if i do get catch out and no shelter from the wind it helps me thanks again dave
There is a special/limited edition of Soto Windmaster that comes with storage hard case and 4 prong stand but it is very hard to come by. I am very lucky to get one yesterday. Costs around JPY9500.
Nice stove! So, are all stoves created equal when it comes to amount of fuel used per boil? I know some will take longer like the BRS. That is the stove I use because I am UL and cut weight where I can. Also at the time when I bought it I loved that it was only $15. If it uses a lot more fuel to boil I might think about a different one like the Soto.
love mine the only gripes I have with it is the bag isn't great and I don't find the flame control is well at all or at least on mine only works well on a full can. might've gotten a bad one as in the video its a lot better.
I bought the soto windmaster stove because my thought is that it doesn't require a windscreen and that saves weight and time/ frustration. Do any of you owning this stove find yourself wishing you purchased or made a windscreen for this stove? If so I'd need to reevaluate the benefit.
Most backpacking stoves are great for this point-focused heating. Does anyone have good suggestions for a lightweight stove with a wider flame pattern to use a thin frying pan on?
Just purchased on offer up for $40 new.thought I got screwed I thought it was defective because unlike my other micro stoves this Soto takes almost two full rotations of the lever two emit the fuel.after I got it going I watched your video and realized it’s just the way this stove works.out of all micro stoves the original msr pocket rocket can’t be beat.
I have yet to see a canister stove that is not susceptible to the wind. This is called the Wind master but yet do a review indoors. Almost every stove nerd on youtube reviews there stove (Boil Time & Fuel Consumption) indoors. Maybe some day, someone will review a stove when the wind is howling, temps below freezing and snowing. When my water is at 34° F and my fingertips are stinking cold that's when my stove when my stove needs to perform. Guess I'm in the minority.
ALL stoves are susceptible to wind .. to a lesser or greater degree. That's why we have Wind Screens .. and in howling blizzards and such, must look to even more effective protection from the elements. Reviewing / using stoves under field conditions .. there are plenty You Tube Videos out there that have done just that He did say that an outdoor review was to follow. Looking for a stove that will see you through most conditions? Get an Optimus Multi-Fuel Stove or similar. My White Gas Optimus 8R Hunter does Four Seasons well. It's cousin, the 123R is another good one.
@@thomasmusso1147 I am well aware that all stoves are susceptible to wind and screens are a must. It has been my experience that canister stove seem to be more susceptible and screening them from the wind is not as easy as other stoves due to the fact that you do not want heat build up around the canister and have yet to come across an effective easy to use wind screen. If this is the "Wind Master" let's start there with the test. Hiram Cook will use a box fan inside to better simulate actual conditions. Boiling water indoors tells me very little. I have had my share of buyer's remorse. Before pulling the trigger on the latest & greatest piece of equipment that I will be using with grandchildren in REAL conditions I would just appreciate a more indepth review, otherwise there is little sense wasting my time. Yes he did say more tests to follow. IMO this was little more than an unboxing. It is not my intention to insult Dr. Ernie or his loyal subscribers and if I hurt anyone's feeling I apologize.
My favorite stove. I use the Tri-plex support. If I were to use a much larger pot (group cooking), I'd use the 4-Plex. But, I've never done that. I feel that the Soto Windmaster is superior to the MSR PocketRocket Deluxe. It is lighter (w/ Tri-plex) & it has closer spacing from the burner head to the pot (10mm vs 13mm). I would expect it to perform better (less potential for heat loss) over the PR Deluxe. I thought the stuff sack was too robust & I replaced it w/ a lighter one from Z-packs. No problems w/ the Cuben Fiber stuff sack yet. I recently bought the PR Deluxe & will try it out in a couple of weeks. I am a stove geek as well.
I recently purchased one after watching my friend boil water before my stove, also butane based, had just warmed the water a little. My old stove was not wind resistant/proof, and did the job. After using this stove a few times in the field, I find it to be a great product, and upgrade, and will not be going back.
The bag is okay with me, as I tend to put my burner in my cooking pot with other things.
I paired my SOTO Windmaster with a 900ml pot that has a heat exchange (or flux ring) on the bottom, much like a jet boil pot, and it boiled a full pot of water in about 2min. It was very impressive.
I’m pairing my Soto with the new Jetboil Stash pot. 👏👏👏👏
Which flux ring pot was that? I’d like to get one as well
It's fm Kathmandu store (Australia)
@@wv2050 I F I owned a company I would call it Kathmandu.
The Soto wind master fits beautifully in the ever new kettle (small) with a 110g canister.
That windmaster flame pattern is mesmerizing.
Wind test needed. Soto Amicus and Windmaster dominate in windy conditions.
I purchased the Soto Windmaster based on your review and I haven't been disappointed. I team the Windmaster with my Firebox nano and the 5" Gen2 and I think I have the best options available. You do an excellent job of reviewing and objectively analyzing the pros and cons. By far the best You Tube channel for stoves.
I recently purchased both the Soto Amicus, and the Soto Windmaster...damn. Both put out very close BTU's, but the Amicus' head is a tad smaller, so those BTU's look like a blow torch vs the Windmaster. But the Windmaster is amazing to view full on. I'd say Amicus for ultralite solo, and Windmaster for two, or larger pots.
Wish you would have tried it where it really shines, in the wind. Greatest stove ever made for the real world. Hopefully you will do this in the comparison test you mention.
Have had one for years now, great stove. A little taller than I like but needed to regulate and the concave burner head is a plus.. just use a canister brace. Probably the best one out of the ten or so I have.
Good video, but I have to say that I am surprised that you didn't do any kind of test of its ability to withstand the wind (as you have with other stoves). I love my Windmaster stove for all the reasons you mentioned--plus, how great it performs in the wind.
This is my fav stove so far
My Soto Amicus came in a reasonably heavy-duty small nylon bag. It's fine but I agree that a hard sided case makes far more sense for something with thin metal parts and connections. A pill bottle can make a good protective case, especially the larger size of the transparent prescription orange ones. I do like the nice hard plastic case the MSr Pocket Rocket 2 came with which allows just enough room for a Bic mini or small firesteel. I think the Soto is a superior stove though.
Great first look! I've heard nothing but good things about this stove.
Looks like a great stove Dr. Ernie; we live in the mountains and wind is often a problem. Also live in fire danger area where a shutoff valve is often the only kind of stove permitted. Again thanks for a great informative video.
My Soto Amicus came in a pretty rugged nylon bag. Sturdier than the sack the Windmaster comes in, but definitely NOT a hard case. I believe you may be mistaking that with the hard white-ish case the Snow Peak Giga stove comes in. Me personally… the hard cases stay at home. Take too much space, and I like to stuff my bagged stove into my pot/cup. Great review otherwise. Please, keep up the objective and informative reviews.
I'm really happy with my windmaster. I like how it works well in windy conditions and is quieter than any other cannister stove i've used
We need a Amicus vs Windmaster comparison. Windmaster is 1.5 times the price of the Amicus, is it 1.5 time better in performance??
Pokok e Windmaster.....Paling Apik.....Aq we Arep Tuku.....👍👍👍
Great review. The manufactures video of the Windmaster being hit with a gas leaf blower is most impressive and makes me want to kick my BSR to the curb. Looking forward to your comparisons
I just ordered my Windmaster. Thank you.
Great stove video. I've moved away from canister stoves, but love learning about all the options out in the marketplace.
Yay, finally! I’ve had both the windmaster and the pocket rocket deluxe. One went back the day after I bought it. We’ll see how your “cook-off” goes.
Just ordered one! Looks great! ATB
*It's about time!!!* (kidding) 😂 It's not a whole lot different from the Amicus, from what I can tell. Looking forward to your side-by-side of the two for us soon. As much as I love my Windmaster, I'll probably end up buying the Amicus soon too, regardless. Thanks and stay well, Ernie.
Reason I purchased this after looking online is in the name Windmaster, so yes similar to other stoves but in the wind even a breeze I think this trump's others.
It is my favorite Stove!
優れたレビュー... Picked something similar in Okinawa years ago. Very good quality. Still use it today
Do SOTO micro regulator stove next plz
Can you do a side by side review of the Soto Windmaster and the campingmoon version of it? I have the campingmoon and would to see how it stacks up in comparison. Thank you.
Beautiful stove, thanks for the review.
Great Video i love my Windmaster i brought the Flat cat windshield for it to just has a bonus wieght is very light so if i do get catch out and no shelter from the wind it helps me thanks again dave
My fav!!!!
Hey Ernie, Now your cooking with gas! LOL. Enjoy your reviews. Thanks
There is a special/limited edition of Soto Windmaster that comes with storage hard case and 4 prong stand but it is very hard to come by. I am very lucky to get one yesterday. Costs around JPY9500.
I think I’m already sold I don’t think I need any comparison. Sold
Substitute where/were in the title
The makers offer a three pronged pot stand to enable small utensils such as metal mugs etc to cook in safety.
Ok!
Looks nice!
Did you just test the Soto WINDmaster, with its selling point being able to outperform competitors OUTSIDE in the WIND, ...inside? 🤦♂️
Seems like a real nice stove. Now if it fits in the green stanley cup then ill take it.
I hope, for your sake, it fits. You'll love it!
700er stanley cup, first insert the stove and than the 100er cannister.the lid fit perfect
Nice stove! So, are all stoves created equal when it comes to amount of fuel used per boil? I know some will take longer like the BRS. That is the stove I use because I am UL and cut weight where I can. Also at the time when I bought it I loved that it was only $15. If it uses a lot more fuel to boil I might think about a different one like the Soto.
love mine the only gripes I have with it is the bag isn't great and I don't find the flame control is well at all or at least on mine only works well on a full can. might've gotten a bad one as in the video its a lot better.
My windmaster won't shut off all the way I physically have to blow the flame out and remove the canister or it will leak
I think four is better for stability
Thank u
I bought the soto windmaster stove because my thought is that it doesn't require a windscreen and that saves weight and time/ frustration. Do any of you owning this stove find yourself wishing you purchased or made a windscreen for this stove? If so I'd need to reevaluate the benefit.
Most backpacking stoves are great for this point-focused heating. Does anyone have good suggestions for a lightweight stove with a wider flame pattern to use a thin frying pan on?
Just purchased on offer up for $40 new.thought I got screwed I thought it was defective because unlike my other micro stoves this Soto takes almost two full rotations of the lever two emit the fuel.after I got it going I watched your video and realized it’s just the way this stove works.out of all micro stoves the original msr pocket rocket can’t be beat.
Now try it outside in the "wind"
👍👍👍
i wish they still made the soto muka.
I’m pretty sure they still do make it but only sell it in Europe or other countries. Not in USA for a while.
@@waxler2 If i run into one of those its on my list to grab, along with a simmerlite and a primus lander vf
They have replaced that with the StormBreaker
@@ronstibbe that one looks cool, dont need the iso can connection but if i see a used one ill grab it.
no wind test? how the
Nyet. Snowpeak Litemax is the best. Good try tho. :P
Were*
No wind test?
Stay tuned for head to head with the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe!
@@PaleoHikerMD Sweet I am going to rely on your video to pick my next stove. Having going back-and-forth between those 2 for the last several months.
I have yet to see a canister stove that is not susceptible to the wind. This is called the Wind master but yet do a review indoors. Almost every stove nerd on youtube reviews there stove (Boil Time & Fuel Consumption) indoors. Maybe some day, someone will review a stove when the wind is howling, temps below freezing and snowing. When my water is at 34° F and my fingertips are stinking cold that's when my stove when my stove needs to perform. Guess I'm in the minority.
ALL stoves are susceptible to wind .. to a lesser or greater degree. That's why we have Wind Screens .. and in howling blizzards and such, must look to even more effective protection from the elements. Reviewing / using stoves under field conditions .. there are plenty You Tube Videos out there that have done just that
He did say that an outdoor review was to follow.
Looking for a stove that will see you through most conditions? Get an Optimus Multi-Fuel Stove or similar. My White Gas Optimus 8R Hunter does Four Seasons well. It's cousin, the 123R is another good one.
@@thomasmusso1147 I am well aware that all stoves are susceptible to wind and screens are a must. It has been my experience that canister stove seem to be more susceptible and screening them from the wind is not as easy as other stoves due to the fact that you do not want heat build up around the canister and have yet to come across an effective easy to use wind screen. If this is the "Wind Master" let's start there with the test. Hiram Cook will use a box fan inside to better simulate actual conditions. Boiling water indoors tells me very little. I have had my share of buyer's remorse. Before pulling the trigger on the latest & greatest piece of equipment that I will be using with grandchildren in REAL conditions I would just appreciate a more indepth review, otherwise there is little sense wasting my time. Yes he did say more tests to follow. IMO this was little more than an unboxing. It is not my intention to insult Dr. Ernie or his loyal subscribers and if I hurt anyone's feeling I apologize.