@@angelusvastator1297 I like to imagine that within a week of leaving the chestnut tree, he simply gets shot and dragged away. They made him love Big Brother and then they were done.
The torture in the book is just infinitely more crushing and emotionally destructive. Maybe it's because you spend so much time reading the book and connecting to Winston, I don't know. But it's just so much more depressing
Reading the third part of this book is tough to get through with all that is done to him, and what's worse you keep somehow hoping that some miracle or something will happen that'll turn the tables but it never does.
Jean Fortin If he bit the rats they would be forced to cannabilise each other realising that they might die in the process of attacking him. He could then say to the party that they were unable to break him as he has no fear anymore which would unsettle them and force them to shoot or imprison him as he had achieved victory over them.
Spoilers!!!! It’s especially sad after so many characters that Winston trusted betrayed him. I really liked Mr. Charrington as a character, and having revealed as a member of the thought police really added to the despair theme.
Screw Twitter. You know the British government will sentence you to jail for 5 years for having a, and I quote, "toxic right wing ideology"..? The minitrue is going to be the future in the UK in a couple of years.
“I had my balls crossed” -Johnny Drama. That’s the ace up my sleeve in this situation, as soon as I get out I’ll fix my head using that and apologize to Julia and explain to her the situation and since she loves me we’ll be ok!
@@AlphaWasSpotted don’t believe it. It’s not just death. It’s rats eating into your face. It could be hours before you actually did. The torture would be absolutely brutal.
Still wondering why O'Brien said in the novel "they got me a long time ago". Many say, he was a rebel once too, but in my theory, the truth is worse: i guess once in a lifetime everyone is captured, tortured, and transformed to the party itself. No matter what you did before, rebel or not, you have to get through this procedure to be the perfect part of the system.
@@danielocsai36 No. He was walking down the street right after him and Julia admit to betraying eachother. Someone came up behind him and shot his head. His final thought as he was dying was "I love big brother". The most heart breaking thing about the book was the main character betraying himself in his final moments.
@@danielocsai36 But in the original movie, Winston wasn't killed. Right after his torture forcing him to betray his gf and himself, he cheers for big brother. The narrator explains that this movie is a warning.
@John dow exactly the point i was trying to make. People never know how they will respond to a situation like that until they are placed in that situation.
It's intriguing to think about. Maybe, if I imagine Winston's situation, I'd do better, but of course they would put me though something personally harder for me. I do have a much higher pain tolerance than him, and I may even feel less guilty about saying to do it to someone else (let's not enter my complex philosophy lol). But they'd likely find what would break me. Then, thinking this through might actually help and prepare us, if nothing else, then for the unexpected. Just as I agree it's impossible to accurately predict it, I also think it's possible to not be completely unprepared, and that it's valuable to consider this topic, 'what would I do'- as long as we are being realistic. Personally, I'm a very absurd-sounding mixture of Syme and Parsons in terms of coping mechanisms. so...whatever they did for them.
If this was day one of his torture and they did this, maybe he would've endured it. But at this point in the story months (maybe even years) have gone by and he's endured hell already. O'brien and the ministry know what they are doing. Everyone has a breaking point.
@Susan Wojcicki Bolshevik from Poland It's not simply pain, sometimes not pain at all, it's, as O'Brien said, something unbearable to the person in question, due to a personal trauma- it's a conditioned reflex, not a conscious decision. That's why I don't think even Winston should feel like he betrayed something- but I'm also prone to believe there are people it didn't work with and the Party denies it. Of course, I also think we can't be 100% sure what we would do- we simply can't tell the future.
Well, we didn't know whether Winston loves Julia or Big Brother. At the end, he loved Big Brother in the book but in the movie, we didn't know if he chooses between the two: if he loves Julia at the end of the movie it's going to be different or if he loves Big Brother, then it will be more faithful to the book.
Very believable - he was played like a strict headmaster in the other adaptations, but here he is warm-voiced and calm. This O'Brien isn't sadistic, he just fully believes that these tactics must be used to 'save' Winston. This makes him even more frightening, a man doing terrible inhumane things and all the time believing it is for a greater good and for the good of the individual.
I feel sooo much pity for Winston... He was so real, so far from being perfect but trying. Human. Jesus, he just had a bit of love in the most cruel, psychopatic world you could imagine and O'Brien broke the last and only thing he had... I cannot even explain it. The fact that they didn't just killed him is so much worse.
He still could love...but only love for Big Brother for whatever is left of his life...He became the perfect citizen. I've read the book many, many times and its just crushing, that the person you really wanted to break away somehow, live whatever kind of life he could with Julia was just mentally destroyed. It's so depressing. It's one of my favorite books, but I haven't read it in a long while as it's just so goddamn depressing.
I didn't quite understand the rat cage mask setup described in the book but this makes perfect sense. In the book, he fights violently to escape and screams his brains out. Much more terrifying. This is still pretty good. More would be a horror movie.
Yeah, they described it in a sort of weird way. I'm pretty sure they said that it was divided into two parts, with what looked to be the concave end of a fencing mask facing outwards.
@wladynoszhighlights5989 They would open all the flaps/levers and then the rats would eventually be right up on his face, biting and scratching him as they do so. Edit: spelling
@@wladynoszhighlights5989They would find your biggest fear and break you with it. Here, it was rats 🐀 for Winston Smith. There’s a bit where he remembers rats 🐀 running around dead bodies and then there is London itself; bombed out and full of rubble. Imagine being alive and trapped under all that, being incapacitated and the rats 🐀 knowing it ...
The reason they let Winston and Julia continue for so long was to discover the things they feared the most - the things that would break each of them. Only when they had that piece of information were they taken into custody. They knew they could break ANYONE if they knew that person's particular fear. Breaking people was the key. They couldn't let someone unbroken die. O'Brien would never have used the second lever. But Winston was so terrified that he could not think of that. He could only try to think of anything and everything that might save him from the rats. Remember that at this point he'd been through all sorts of other tortures to weaken him.
Right!? If a thoughtcriminal just took the bullet in the skull, the Party no longer has any power to flex on them with. They have lost to the rebel if the rebel isn't terrified of the Party. The Party only exists to exert power, to dominate via pain & humiliation. So O'Brien would NOT have released the rats, he'd have kept Winston there terrified if them for as long as it took to break him. THE TERROR IS THE PARTY'S POWER. 🥾↘️😣♾️
@@raulbetancourt5795 The trick is to find the fear that a person can't conquer. The Thought Police knew what Winston and Julia were doing from the very beginning. They let W&J continue because they needed to discover what unconquerable fear each one had. For Winston, it was rats - what it was for Julia we are not told because it doesn't matter to the story. Note how quickly W&J are arrested once the Thought Police know for sure what their unconquerable fears are.
Derick I’d like to thank you. I had to write an alternative ending to this scene for my English class and I couldn’t think of anything until I thought back to this comment. Thank you again Derick.
1984 might be the first book I ever read that, through the protagonists suffering alone, I wholeheartedly wanted them to die on the spot. Not through me hating them, or some personal ethical or moral stance I hold against them, but through their complete suffering in which I see no way out without sacrificing yourself, your mind, your body. Except through death. Absolutely terrifying read, best and worst book I've ever read. Won't read it again for years.
The WHOLE book is depressing from beginning to end and it’s really tough specially with how hopeless and sad the society of 1984 is. What makes it worse is when you start thinking what if WE were Winston Smith, what if we were in a totalitarian society like 1984, where our speech and words are altered and controlled, where history of the past is trying to be removed and controlled in order to control the future, in which the government is watching us every second or minute, in which we are being told and lied to like the ministry of truth does...oh wait! We are living in 1984 except that were only in the beginning.
My grandma owned a pub/Inn in Hertfordshire and had George Orwell as a regular customer as he lived next door. His publishers also stayed with her a couple times when they visited him. She kept the flask he drank from to her dying day and also had an article written about her. I found all this out after it became my favourite novel, so you can imagine my excitement.
"Confession is not betrayal. What you say or do doesn't matter, only feelings matter. If they could make me stop loving you - that would be the real betrayal."
The point Orwell is making is that in the moment of pain, you would do anything to make it stop, even let it happen to the people you love. And you've experienced that, you don't feel the same way about them anymore.
@quiflington Lol, that's because rats are not your biggest fear. What if your biggest fear were to have your child murdered in front of you? I bet you'd cooperate then. There's a difference between being a man and being Superman.
It wasn't just fear. It was the unbearable. Everyone knew what was within Room 101- the worst possible thing in the whole world. Whatever it was differed with each individual, but it was that which finally broke the prisoner.
1984 is still chilling because it really gets down to the gritty, horrid truth that once you give someone else control over you, you can't take it back unless you're willing to die or destroy everything that they are/represent.
Yes i was thinking of something similar. Idk anyone who has a more dominant screen presence than Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now, Richard Burton in 1984 or Anthony Hopkins (whos like that in more than one film that ive seen of his)
Ehhh idk, I tend to disagree. Even though I see the physical resemblence, these characters are fairly different. Aside from having control over all their scenes, their motivations and goals are different. Also Anthony Hopkins has stated that he gets into role by reading the script 200 or so times until he's truly able to step inside the character and really perfect the delivery of each word. But still, because of the similarities in the physical acting there could have been some influence, you never know.
The thing that I admire the most about the O'Brien character is that he keeps a natural calm, even caring towards the person who he would torture. Pol Pot had that trait too. Also, I see many people in the comment section saying that rats are not such a big deal. Just try to imagine your worst fear from heights, deep water, claustrophobia, being devoured by acid or having your eye drilled, you'll get it in Room 101. Here it's just from Winston's perspective
Hurlelune Right right, they are basically using the fears of the person against them to mindbreak them. If one has arachnophobia and ends up a thoughtcriminal, I’m going to bet those from the Inner Party would breed the most aggressive spiders and use that against them, similar to what Winston here went through.
My class did too, same reaction. We were all kinda chatty about the world the story takes place in up until then, and then the room was thr quietest I'd ever heard it. No phones, no whispers, not even a cough or a sneeze. Just pure shock. Thanks Ms. LeSurf 🙃
I believe that 1984 is in league with Blade Runner, Metropolis, THX 1138 and Gattaca. The acting of both Sir John Hurt and Richard Burton are unrivalled and the haunting torture finale is timeless. 💔
George Orwell is a remnant of the 20th century, as a writer, because he was awfully honest. Honest to the core. In his times he was a secondary writer. Now, he is the first to be remembered.
You're not an adult until you care for someone else more than yourself. Here they strip him of all his purpose, identity, responsibility and show the true life of a person is in their connections.
@@Galvatronover If you think Winston ever loved Kulia more than himself, you'd be wrong. If you think having kids makes you more mature than not doing so, then you're simply ridiculous. Maturity comes in many forms.
That main actor went from being prisoner to being a Dictator in V for vendetta (the exact opposite). He is a really talented actor. I think he was in Hellboy too...and Alien.
The most alarming thing about this movie is that it is not simple fiction. Something extremely close to this has been practiced under all totalitarian regimes. Nowadays they don't use the crude method of the rats in a cage in front of your face, but they throw you naked, in the middle of the winter, in a 6'x5'x4' cement vault with a lid on the top they close from the outside, from which they'll give you water and food, and a hole in the floor in one of the corners where you're supposed to defecate, urinate, etc. (in absolute darkness) from which cockroaches, rats, and other vermin will regularly crawl into your vault. They will disrupt your circadian rhythm banging on the metal lid at times you're supposed to be sleeping to wake you up, and they will feed you at irregular intervals, perhaps giving you food an hour after they fed you the last time, then not feeding you for 48 hours. If you break down and give up whatever they want you to give up, that will earn you the "privilege" to go to a "rehabilitation plan" (forced labor camp) from which very few ever get out alive as strenuous physical work, under subhuman conditions, will kill you of exhaustion or make you vulnerable to multiple diseases. The alternative to the "rehabilitation plan" is to declare you mentally ill and lobotomize you with an extended treatment of electro-shocks, after which you'll have a hard time remembering the name of your closest relatives and won't remember much of your previous life. Those who commented before that this is the darkest movie they ever watched or book they ever read I suggest you read The Gulag Archipelago, by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. The difference is: Orwell's novel is fiction, Solzhenitsyn's is an account of actual events under Soviet Communism in the USSR and yes, it is much darker than 1984.
Oh, look at all these people, blindly passing judgment on why Winston didn't just "bite" the heads off. Read the damn book, or at least, watch the clip in more detail.
Most think they can act tough. In the words of George Orwell “Of pain you could wish only one thing: that it should stop. Nothing in the world was so bad as physical pain. In the face of pain there are no heroes.”.
Amazing book. The movie is actually a pretty good version of it. Can't fail with actors like Burton and Hurt. I think was Burtons last role and he was suffering greatly from cancer at the time, but really wanted to leave one last great performance behind, which he certainly did. Unfortunately the book is more relevant now than ever.
It's cool how John Hurt went from playing Winston Smith to Chancellor Sutler in V for Vendetta. That and while everyone focuses on what goes on to Winston, it doesn't focus on O'Brien and what lead him to his position, all it states about him in regards to him is "they got me a long time ago comrade".
Brave new world is more likely or some Hellish fusion on both. Their is still time to turn the coming nightmare but at our current trajectory the dark future awaits.
It was true when he wrote the book in 1948, many Totalitarian governments have existed. It is mostly based on Stalin's Russia and to a lesser extent Hitler's Germany.
He has been through a lot, Winston was was put through a lot and yet he never gave up. Ever and that says a lot. They are afraid of love because it creates a world that they cannot control. So for Winston to understand what love is, what war is what all this stuff is is very important and that says a lot. He's willing to stand up to Big brother when no one else can. And that is so brave of him.
Someone very close to me works in a Child Protection Center. What you see here in this video, this horror is what many abused children, victims of violence by their parents etc. go through. Believe me if you see so many damaged people in life around you, you wouldn't like to know what they went through, day after day...
Why didn't he just try to wait it out by trying to bite the rats as they come too close. They would have receieved too great an injury or realised he was too dangerous for prey and would resort to cannabilsm.
Freddie Williams because they are his worst fear, if you hated rats to the point of panic then you wouldn't. Winston suffers months of torture, beatings, starvation, and psychological torment. He is just a normal man, he isn't a fighter. If you were taken to room 101 then you would break very quickly. For me, being dropped at a height would be my biggest fear. Room 101 is the worst place in existence.
Marauder623 Irrational fears such as that of rats are very weak as one can easily be broken by exposure or by strength of will. Eg. Arachnophobia being broken by exposure to spiders (often tarantulas from what I've seen.) For example on the topic of heights if you were in a state such as winston I'm sure the prospect of a quick death by heights is not a difficult thing to deal with as death would be an easy escape from torment. Also Winston doesn't have to be a literal fighter to conquer his fears as he is shown to be quite resistent to their tactics up until this scene proving he has a strong will.
I can't believe O'Brien isn't talked about and discussed more as a villain; he was so scary both in the book and the movie, especially his Room 101 line. So much detail put into this horrible world.
That awkward moment when I don't even disagree But- I know it can be five, I just don't want people to be beaten if they don't know it I love Big Brother, but the fanbase is terrible. So, the Party can't accuse me for disagreeing, but-
@@johnnyzeee5215 I see, I was half joking...I meant to say I frankly have fewer issues with loving the idea of Big Brother himself than being united with those who promote him. And also that I actually do agree that two can be whatever in certain senses, so I don't have a problem with that philosophy, but with forcing everyone to agree with it/see it.
A lot of people in the comments aren’t really understanding the full picture. When you really connect with Winston’s character and understand him as a human you understand that it’s near impossible to go against your biology of fear. Fear and not only the knowledge of death but the words to prevent it. Its just words to talk about being brave, formidable to be brave, but most of all admirable to admit you are not greater than human. Going through torture, not being conditioned to pain like Winston and being granted with the option of it being all over, no more fear, no fear of death, its impossible to decide rationally. The reality is in order for Winston to make the decision to die there by his worst fear, he would’ve had to decide that without thinking, shutting off his mind, and without allowing his emotions to direct him, and by doing that he would’ve lost anyways.
I can tell you are a deep tissue thinker. I hope you never sell out, not for love, not for money and not for the easy way out of anything. But if you must sell out, make sure you go ALL the way because what ever is worth doing is worth doing completely. Temet Nosce to infinity…..
We did the play in high school in 1984. I would have never thought that anything in the book could be as real as the world we live in now. It was meant as a warning to history. Not as a damn playbook.
No, it does not, but that's the case with most adaptions for the big screen. I don't mind the changes and reductions too much; as a film, it works wonderfully. The novel "The Shining" and the respective film are tonally very different, but I can enjoy them both. Books and films are different mediums.
One thing I love is how O’Brien and Winston are very similar yet so different. They both see Big Brother and the world for what it truly is. But while Winston uses that knowledge to try and push his own freedom, O’Brien chooses to still follow the party and even use that knowledge to further torture others. That’s why O’Brien is the ultimate antagonist to Winston, he understands how he thinks and he uses that knowledge to his advantage to break Winston down further
Obriens very slight crack of a smile in the left corner of his mouth when Winston finally did what they had required all this time, give up Julia for himself.
When I read this book recently. The third part of the story was extremely hard to read and imagine. (The movie had cut out a lot of material when Winton was imprisoned in the ‘Love Ministry’) When O’brein tortured Winston, I really hoped that Winston had something up his sleeve to counter O’breins half page arguments, but reading it further into the book, my hopes were futile, and it was a crushing experience.
The worst part about this is, as someone else pointed out, O'Brien couldn't use the other lever, because that would ensure Winston's death before he was broken. The Party can't allow that.
Tell that to the "hardworking" US prison guards at Gitmo...
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+ CLASSICALFAN100 Obama shut that down. It's unlikely Trump was able to restart the torture, even though he is very enthousiastic about torture. Likely if it has, it's at another secret camp, and not Guantanamo Bay.
Dafuq do they think they're doing to the Doctor? Don't they know the Gallifreyan saying? "The first thing you notice about the Doctor of War is also the last--he's unarmed."
O'brien is totally desensitized. He has known Winston since he was a boy and he is about to let rats (his deepest fear) ear off his face. He just looks at Winston as cool as a cucumber as he pull the lever to open the cage door. Reminds me of Hillary ignoring the call from Benghazi as they were being over run.
That part when Winston saw four fingers, said it was five fingers as he was told, but was shocked anyway because he had to believe in it. Saying was not enough.
The acting is sheer brilliance, but I have to agree with Nightbot. This movie's very dark and depressing. The best way to watch it is via RUclips movie clips. Otherwise, it would be too overpowering.
Yes please! I wish I had an O'Brien in my life to cure me of all my crimethink! Winston simply does not understand how doubleplusgood he has it. I would do ANYTHING for big brother!!! I hope I can go to room 101 one day.
After seeing this again, I get the sense that Julia wants Winston to capitulate, at that's what Michael Radford had Suzanna Hamilton put on the screen.
Winston was going to die if he let O'Brien release the rats, but he would have won against the party, remember they said in the book that the party doesn't create martyrs, because they can make other people rebel against the party, Winston dies a but his death as a martyr would have probably reached O'Brien and would be the begining of the party's downfall
That's pretty heavy duty...saw one of these rat torture devices strapped to a wax figure's chest, (complete with rat) when I was a child, I never forgot it!
In the book, Winston screeches and screamed, repeating, "Do it to Julia, I don't care, Do it to her!" my heart broke when I read that part.
Just read that today, this is de second time I read the book and my heart is broken.
It's honestly even sadder with the ending. Winston was almost there in having his mind and soul untainted by Big Brother. But alas, that all failed.
@@angelusvastator1297 I like to imagine that within a week of leaving the chestnut tree, he simply gets shot and dragged away. They made him love Big Brother and then they were done.
True...
@@angelusvastator1297 "He achieved his victory over his mind. He loved Big Brother."
The torture in the book is just infinitely more crushing and emotionally destructive. Maybe it's because you spend so much time reading the book and connecting to Winston, I don't know. But it's just so much more depressing
Reading the third part of this book is tough to get through with all that is done to him, and what's worse you keep somehow hoping that some miracle or something will happen that'll turn the tables but it never does.
Jean Fortin If he bit the rats they would be forced to cannabilise each other realising that they might die in the process of attacking him. He could then say to the party that they were unable to break him as he has no fear anymore which would unsettle them and force them to shoot or imprison him as he had achieved victory over them.
The party won't kill you before they have broken you. They would not get unsettled
Spoilers!!!!
It’s especially sad after so many characters that Winston trusted betrayed him. I really liked Mr. Charrington as a character, and having revealed as a member of the thought police really added to the despair theme.
@@czarii2422 Ikr! I just finished reading the book for my English class and I was hoping sooo hard that things would end up okay, but they didn't
Winston clearly should have read Twitter's terms of service before tweeting.
Hahaha, brilliant
Lmfao
Screw Twitter. You know the British government will sentence you to jail for 5 years for having a, and I quote, "toxic right wing ideology"..?
The minitrue is going to be the future in the UK in a couple of years.
@@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 "That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage" is no more.
@@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 And in some places of the US people are required to tell their political beliefs. Radicals and anarchists are more suspected. ):
When he said, "do it to Julia" my heart sank and took me sometime to settle and digest the fact that it is what it is the reality.
“I had my balls crossed” -Johnny Drama. That’s the ace up my sleeve in this situation, as soon as I get out I’ll fix my head using that and apologize to Julia and explain to her the situation and since she loves me we’ll be ok!
I don't buy into this, i would have just welcomed death
@@AlphaWasSpotted Talk is cheap, my friend. Imagining bravery is one thing...carrying it out, is another. Always easier said than done.
@@AlphaWasSpotted don’t believe it. It’s not just death. It’s rats eating into your face. It could be hours before you actually did. The torture would be absolutely brutal.
@@adisonshowalter1985 but death would be the cure to that pain, also in real life its possible to pass out from too much pain
Still wondering why O'Brien said in the novel "they got me a long time ago". Many say, he was a rebel once too, but in my theory, the truth is worse: i guess once in a lifetime everyone is captured, tortured, and transformed to the party itself. No matter what you did before, rebel or not, you have to get through this procedure to be the perfect part of the system.
yes but winston was killed
@@alanjaw4510 They only killed or purged his old self. Like O'Brien said, they won't just shoot him, because he is an error on the pattern.
@@danielocsai36 well not much info was given after him being shot in the head so you might be right.
@@danielocsai36 No. He was walking down the street right after him and Julia admit to betraying eachother. Someone came up behind him and shot his head. His final thought as he was dying was "I love big brother". The most heart breaking thing about the book was the main character betraying himself in his final moments.
@@danielocsai36 But in the original movie, Winston wasn't killed. Right after his torture forcing him to betray his gf and himself, he cheers for big brother. The narrator explains that this movie is a warning.
Everyone wants to believe that they are stronger than Winston, and that they would hold out and endure no matter what.
@John dow exactly the point i was trying to make. People never know how they will respond to a situation like that until they are placed in that situation.
Oh I know for certain I'd crack under this, watching was difficult enough
It's intriguing to think about. Maybe, if I imagine Winston's situation, I'd do better, but of course they would put me though something personally harder for me. I do have a much higher pain tolerance than him, and I may even feel less guilty about saying to do it to someone else (let's not enter my complex philosophy lol). But they'd likely find what would break me.
Then, thinking this through might actually help and prepare us, if nothing else, then for the unexpected. Just as I agree it's impossible to accurately predict it, I also think it's possible to not be completely unprepared, and that it's valuable to consider this topic, 'what would I do'- as long as we are being realistic.
Personally, I'm a very absurd-sounding mixture of Syme and Parsons in terms of coping mechanisms. so...whatever they did for them.
If this was day one of his torture and they did this, maybe he would've endured it. But at this point in the story months (maybe even years) have gone by and he's endured hell already. O'brien and the ministry know what they are doing.
Everyone has a breaking point.
@Susan Wojcicki Bolshevik from Poland It's not simply pain, sometimes not pain at all, it's, as O'Brien said, something unbearable to the person in question, due to a personal trauma- it's a conditioned reflex, not a conscious decision. That's why I don't think even Winston should feel like he betrayed something- but I'm also prone to believe there are people it didn't work with and the Party denies it.
Of course, I also think we can't be 100% sure what we would do- we simply can't tell the future.
when Julia said "I love you"... my heart just cracked 😢😢😢
also Rest In Peace, John Hurt....
Well, we didn't know whether Winston loves Julia or Big Brother. At the end, he loved Big Brother in the book but in the movie, we didn't know if he chooses between the two: if he loves Julia at the end of the movie it's going to be different or if he loves Big Brother, then it will be more faithful to the book.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 I must say idk if I was expecting that pic , with the name lol!
Mine didn't
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This concludes the employee orientation... welcome to Disney.
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Damn this wasn't half as bad as Amazons orientation.
@@Blasphemian_6 At Facebook I had to kill a small dog that I had raised for a year. This is noting.
When you leave room 101 you sign the contract stating you are now a they/them followed by a mandatory LGBTQIA+++ tshirt and hat.
Genius
O'brain might be the best antagonist ever as in the most believable. Richard Burton played the role perfectly
Very believable - he was played like a strict headmaster in the other adaptations, but here he is warm-voiced and calm.
This O'Brien isn't sadistic, he just fully believes that these tactics must be used to 'save' Winston. This makes him even more frightening, a man doing terrible inhumane things and all the time believing it is for a greater good and for the good of the individual.
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The one in the book was also cold, almost robot like.
Welll he is a communist
@@charlierowell1395 what
Burton’s last performance.
I feel sooo much pity for Winston... He was so real, so far from being perfect but trying. Human. Jesus, he just had a bit of love in the most cruel, psychopatic world you could imagine and O'Brien broke the last and only thing he had... I cannot even explain it. The fact that they didn't just killed him is so much worse.
Uh, yeah. That’s the point.
@@christhefiend O'Brien is that you?!
@@wilsonno9675 If it is, you wouldn’t know it until it’s too late..
He still could love...but only love for Big Brother for whatever is left of his life...He became the perfect citizen. I've read the book many, many times and its just crushing, that the person you really wanted to break away somehow, live whatever kind of life he could with Julia was just mentally destroyed. It's so depressing. It's one of my favorite books, but I haven't read it in a long while as it's just so goddamn depressing.
@@lonl123 Yeah... ;_;
I didn't quite understand the rat cage mask setup described in the book but this makes perfect sense. In the book, he fights violently to escape and screams his brains out. Much more terrifying. This is still pretty good. More would be a horror movie.
Yeah, they described it in a sort of weird way. I'm pretty sure they said that it was divided into two parts, with what looked to be the concave end of a fencing mask facing outwards.
@@s.o.k.1393 What is the function of this torture? Is it just the noise the rats make channeled into the face?
@wladynoszhighlights5989 They would open all the flaps/levers and then the rats would eventually be right up on his face, biting and scratching him as they do so.
Edit: spelling
@@wladynoszhighlights5989They would find your biggest fear and break you with it. Here, it was rats 🐀 for Winston Smith.
There’s a bit where he remembers rats 🐀 running around dead bodies and then there is London itself; bombed out and full of rubble.
Imagine being alive and trapped under all that, being incapacitated and the rats 🐀 knowing it ...
I don’t we qqqq ❤
“A boot stepping on a human face forever”
Even more relevant in 2021, worldwide.
True as that is what we have now just a new world order trying to destroy everything we have worked our whole lives for
a fat bIm shaniqua twerking on the ruins of the british museum forever
@@FixedFace xD
Where else does the boot belong?
The reason they let Winston and Julia continue for so long was to discover the things they feared the most - the things that would break each of them. Only when they had that piece of information were they taken into custody.
They knew they could break ANYONE if they knew that person's particular fear.
Breaking people was the key. They couldn't let someone unbroken die. O'Brien would never have used the second lever.
But Winston was so terrified that he could not think of that. He could only try to think of anything and everything that might save him from the rats. Remember that at this point he'd been through all sorts of other tortures to weaken him.
Saul, charism. Socio ingracy carry
Right!? If a thoughtcriminal just took the bullet in the skull, the Party no longer has any power to flex on them with. They have lost to the rebel if the rebel isn't terrified of the Party. The Party only exists to exert power, to dominate via pain & humiliation. So O'Brien would NOT have released the rats, he'd have kept Winston there terrified if them for as long as it took to break him. THE TERROR IS THE PARTY'S POWER.
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And What if a person can conquer his fear? Wouldn't that make room 101 Useless.
@@raulbetancourt5795 The trick is to find the fear that a person can't conquer.
The Thought Police knew what Winston and Julia were doing from the very beginning. They let W&J continue because they needed to discover what unconquerable fear each one had. For Winston, it was rats - what it was for Julia we are not told because it doesn't matter to the story.
Note how quickly W&J are arrested once the Thought Police know for sure what their unconquerable fears are.
@@raulbetancourt5795 By the time you reach Room 101 you are at your lowest; physically and psychologically.
He should've said "do it to big brother"
And just like that, he can't love big brother
Derick the book
They would have probed further though. Everyone has more than one Room 101
Derick I’d like to thank you. I had to write an alternative ending to this scene for my English class and I couldn’t think of anything until I thought back to this comment. Thank you again Derick.
@@onomatopoeia9678 nice
In the book Julia protect her from a rat. It might trigger his memory about rats
1984 might be the first book I ever read that, through the protagonists suffering alone, I wholeheartedly wanted them to die on the spot. Not through me hating them, or some personal ethical or moral stance I hold against them, but through their complete suffering in which I see no way out without sacrificing yourself, your mind, your body. Except through death. Absolutely terrifying read, best and worst book I've ever read. Won't read it again for years.
The WHOLE book is depressing from beginning to end and it’s really tough specially with how hopeless and sad the society of 1984 is. What makes it worse is when you start thinking what if WE were Winston Smith, what if we were in a totalitarian society like 1984, where our speech and words are altered and controlled, where history of the past is trying to be removed and controlled in order to control the future, in which the government is watching us every second or minute, in which we are being told and lied to like the ministry of truth does...oh wait! We are living in 1984 except that were only in the beginning.
@@carlosescobedo6406 cringe
@@carlosescobedo6406yep you've seen it! Well done my friend
My grandma owned a pub/Inn in Hertfordshire and had George Orwell as a regular customer as he lived next door. His publishers also stayed with her a couple times when they visited him. She kept the flask he drank from to her dying day and also had an article written about her. I found all this out after it became my favourite novel, so you can imagine my excitement.
What article??
@@Wimsum im also curious
@@GuidoMista3i20 If it's true though, it's pretty amazing.
Thats awesome man!
All im surprised at is at ur grandmothers age and how your mother never told you anything about her connections with George Orwell himself.
"Confession is not betrayal. What you say or do doesn't matter, only feelings matter. If they could make me stop loving you - that would be the real betrayal."
The point Orwell is making is that in the moment of pain, you would do anything to make it stop, even let it happen to the people you love. And you've experienced that, you don't feel the same way about them anymore.
@quiflington no you wouldn't
@quiflington Lol, that's because rats are not your biggest fear. What if your biggest fear were to have your child murdered in front of you? I bet you'd cooperate then. There's a difference between being a man and being Superman.
quiflington rats is his biggest phobia.
quiflington Lmao, look at you tryna being a tough guy!
Incredible performances from both John and Richard here. RIP
This isn't *torture*... it's simply a test that O'Brien gives his good friend to see if he is ready to go back outside!
Only as long as he remembers to wear his mask. Two masks. Maybe four masks, however many masks the Party requires.
@@thisisaname5589 Ok dude 🤣
@@thisisaname5589 Next time you require a surgery, tell doc to take off his mask. Since you all of a sudden have a problem with them. So stupid.
@@MaynardsSpaceship Can you speak up? I can't hear you over you wearing all 6 of your masks
@@MaynardsSpaceship Sure wear your two masks with pride.
This is the hardest scene I've ever seen in movies.
Performed by 2 of the all time greats.
@Bill Patrick Jones haha you serious? That film is a joke
@@chriswyatt9869 be quiet
If this is the hardest thing you ever seen in movies then you haven't seen anything yet
Requiem For A Dream would like a word with you...
Darn this movies dark.Very dark.Very dark and depressing
Yes! fear in the end proved to be stronger than love ;(
It wasn't just fear. It was the unbearable. Everyone knew what was within Room 101- the worst possible thing in the whole world. Whatever it was differed with each individual, but it was that which finally broke the prisoner.
The book was darker. Had a slow build up with really good tension.
Such is reality. It's just hidden from the masses
@@grelm1322 sadly anarchy may be the only true way to live
1984 is still chilling because it really gets down to the gritty, horrid truth that once you give someone else control over you, you can't take it back unless you're willing to die or destroy everything that they are/represent.
Anthony Hopkins must have taken notes from Burton's performance here when he was gearing up to play Lecter. Look at the shot at 1:29 especially.
Yes i was thinking of something similar. Idk anyone who has a more dominant screen presence than Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now, Richard Burton in 1984 or Anthony Hopkins (whos like that in more than one film that ive seen of his)
Ehhh idk, I tend to disagree. Even though I see the physical resemblence, these characters are fairly different. Aside from having control over all their scenes, their motivations and goals are different. Also Anthony Hopkins has stated that he gets into role by reading the script 200 or so times until he's truly able to step inside the character and really perfect the delivery of each word. But still, because of the similarities in the physical acting there could have been some influence, you never know.
That his resting face
Kitty McRatSlayer Slay the rats pls
hes just staring menacingly? they just look the kinda the same
I’m not even sitting in his position and I genuinely feel terrified.
Me too
The thing that I admire the most about the O'Brien character is that he keeps a natural calm, even caring towards the person who he would torture. Pol Pot had that trait too.
Also, I see many people in the comment section saying that rats are not such a big deal. Just try to imagine your worst fear from heights, deep water, claustrophobia, being devoured by acid or having your eye drilled, you'll get it in Room 101. Here it's just from Winston's perspective
For some reason I think of Maxine Waters when i think of Pol Pot. Im pretty sure shed genocide me.
@Raw Engineer I would take that over face eaten by rats any day of the week.
Hurlelune Right right, they are basically using the fears of the person against them to mindbreak them.
If one has arachnophobia and ends up a thoughtcriminal, I’m going to bet those from the Inner Party would breed the most aggressive spiders and use that against them, similar to what Winston here went through.
@Raw Engineer rats are "cuddly"? WTF
Praying Mantis.
I watched this movie at school for senior year.
I am not lying when I say everyone in the class was dead silent during the torture scenes
Cool movie
My class did too, same reaction. We were all kinda chatty about the world the story takes place in up until then, and then the room was thr quietest I'd ever heard it. No phones, no whispers, not even a cough or a sneeze. Just pure shock. Thanks Ms. LeSurf 🙃
I believe that 1984 is in league with Blade Runner, Metropolis, THX 1138 and Gattaca. The acting of both Sir John Hurt and Richard Burton are unrivalled and the haunting torture finale is timeless. 💔
Agree completely
'In league with'? It is far superior to any one of those, except possibly 'Metropolis'.
George Orwell is a remnant of the 20th century, as a writer, because he was awfully honest. Honest to the core. In his times he was a secondary writer. Now, he is the first to be remembered.
O’Brien wanted to break Winston he was never going to use that second lever
The new audiobook is incredible such powerful voice acting and presentation
You're not an adult until you care for someone else more than yourself. Here they strip him of all his purpose, identity, responsibility and show the true life of a person is in their connections.
That's ludicrous. Most people value their selves more than any one else's. Only exception is having children and surely you do not suggest that?
@@phoenixcrown9966 clearly you don't care about anyone higher than yourself
@@phoenixcrown9966That’s the problem and the solution…..
@@justsaiyan8678 Wrong. There is nothing inherently mature about having kids. It is not a necessity and not at all needed to develop as an adult.
@@Galvatronover If you think Winston ever loved Kulia more than himself, you'd be wrong. If you think having kids makes you more mature than not doing so, then you're simply ridiculous. Maturity comes in many forms.
That main actor went from being prisoner to being a Dictator in V for vendetta (the exact opposite). He is a really talented actor. I think he was in Hellboy too...and Alien.
Villain origin story right there. A fighter for freedom becomes a dictator against his will
John Hurt (R.I.P.)
he also played the War Doctor in Doctor Who
Oh, and don't forget his role as Caligula (in drag no less!) in I, Claudius.
YES THANK YOU I couldn't remember
Ok the book is a better experience, but this is a good adaptation for a movie tbh
The most alarming thing about this movie is that it is not simple fiction. Something extremely close to this has been practiced under all totalitarian regimes. Nowadays they don't use the crude method of the rats in a cage in front of your face, but they throw you naked, in the middle of the winter, in a 6'x5'x4' cement vault with a lid on the top they close from the outside, from which they'll give you water and food, and a hole in the floor in one of the corners where you're supposed to defecate, urinate, etc. (in absolute darkness) from which cockroaches, rats, and other vermin will regularly crawl into your vault. They will disrupt your circadian rhythm banging on the metal lid at times you're supposed to be sleeping to wake you up, and they will feed you at irregular intervals, perhaps giving you food an hour after they fed you the last time, then not feeding you for 48 hours. If you break down and give up whatever they want you to give up, that will earn you the "privilege" to go to a "rehabilitation plan" (forced labor camp) from which very few ever get out alive as strenuous physical work, under subhuman conditions, will kill you of exhaustion or make you vulnerable to multiple diseases. The alternative to the "rehabilitation plan" is to declare you mentally ill and lobotomize you with an extended treatment of electro-shocks, after which you'll have a hard time remembering the name of your closest relatives and won't remember much of your previous life.
Those who commented before that this is the darkest movie they ever watched or book they ever read I suggest you read The Gulag Archipelago, by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. The difference is: Orwell's novel is fiction, Solzhenitsyn's is an account of actual events under Soviet Communism in the USSR and yes, it is much darker than 1984.
@S A I believe the English title is Bitter Winds
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"You asked me once what was in Room 101. I said you knew already. What is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world..."
Sooo true
Oh, look at all these people, blindly passing judgment on why Winston didn't just "bite" the heads off. Read the damn book, or at least, watch the clip in more detail.
Most think they can act tough.
In the words of George Orwell “Of pain you could wish only one thing: that it should stop. Nothing in the world was so bad as physical pain. In the face of pain there are no heroes.”.
Amazing book. The movie is actually a pretty good version of it. Can't fail with actors like Burton and Hurt. I think was Burtons last role and he was suffering greatly from cancer at the time, but really wanted to leave one last great performance behind, which he certainly did. Unfortunately the book is more relevant now than ever.
John hurt’s performance was exceptional in this movie.
It's cool how John Hurt went from playing Winston Smith to Chancellor Sutler in V for Vendetta. That and while everyone focuses on what goes on to Winston, it doesn't focus on O'Brien and what lead him to his position, all it states about him in regards to him is "they got me a long time ago comrade".
That's probably meant as irony casting.
I got a real kick out of seeing Hurt behind the telescreen in V for Vendetta. That was a really unexpected and interesting touch of casting.
O'Brien: ”Vibe check, Winston.”
Two of my favourite actors RIP Burton and Hurt.
I no longer feel a 1984esque world is out of the realm of possibility, and that scares me.
Brave new world is more likely or some Hellish fusion on both. Their is still time to turn the coming nightmare but at our current trajectory the dark future awaits.
That's the point of the book. Never grow complacent. Tyranny is waiting for any opportunity to arise
It was true when he wrote the book in 1948, many Totalitarian governments have existed. It is mostly based on Stalin's Russia and to a lesser extent Hitler's Germany.
"Constant Vigilance, that is the price we all must pay for our freedom."
it will be a warped mix of 1984 and demolition man
He has been through a lot, Winston was was put through a lot and yet he never gave up. Ever and that says a lot. They are afraid of love because it creates a world that they cannot control. So for Winston to understand what love is, what war is what all this stuff is is very important and that says a lot. He's willing to stand up to Big brother when no one else can. And that is so brave of him.
Someone very close to me works in a Child Protection Center. What you see here in this video, this horror is what many abused children, victims of violence by their parents etc. go through. Believe me if you see so many damaged people in life around you, you wouldn't like to know what they went through, day after day...
RIP John.
Andrew Hall he didn't die
Kim Jong Fun john hurt is dead
After I finished reading the book it hit me hard. You feel it more when you read it then watching it for entertainment
The key is to get loved ones to betray one another . After that , you are nothing .
The monk who lit himself on fire would have laughed at this threat. That's true power.
Lol Rage Against The Machine
@@bully2iscoming897 lol Actual historical protest and not some Cool Band Art
@Bob Ross that’s what I said?
@@nickirmen6671 It's Bob Ross, cut him some slack. Only happy accidents ;)
getting eaten alive by rats is probably one of the scariest ways to go out
O’Brien tortures Winston calmly
This scene's a whole lot less effective if you think rats are sort of cute.
Clockwork Arceus at least it wasnt spiders :(
Why didn't he just try to wait it out by trying to bite the rats as they come too close. They would have receieved too great an injury or realised he was too dangerous for prey and would resort to cannabilsm.
Freddie Williams because they are his worst fear, if you hated rats to the point of panic then you wouldn't. Winston suffers months of torture, beatings, starvation, and psychological torment. He is just a normal man, he isn't a fighter. If you were taken to room 101 then you would break very quickly. For me, being dropped at a height would be my biggest fear. Room 101 is the worst place in existence.
Marauder623 Irrational fears such as that of rats are very weak as one can easily be broken by exposure or by strength of will. Eg. Arachnophobia being broken by exposure to spiders (often tarantulas from what I've seen.) For example on the topic of heights if you were in a state such as winston I'm sure the prospect of a quick death by heights is not a difficult thing to deal with as death would be an easy escape from torment. Also Winston doesn't have to be a literal fighter to conquer his fears as he is shown to be quite resistent to their tactics up until this scene proving he has a strong will.
Rats are cute huh? WW1 soldiers who fought in trenches will be rolling in their graves.
I can't believe O'Brien isn't talked about and discussed more as a villain; he was so scary both in the book and the movie, especially his Room 101 line. So much detail put into this horrible world.
Winston was finally happy, and at peace. He knew 2 + 2 could equal ' 5 ', and he knew he loved Big Brother.
That awkward moment when I don't even disagree
But-
I know it can be five, I just don't want people to be beaten if they don't know it
I love Big Brother, but the fanbase is terrible.
So, the Party can't accuse me for disagreeing, but-
@@natalieanimal4063 I believe what's posted is the last sentence of the book....
@@natalieanimal4063 " 2+2....is 5" is what Winston had to agree to, so the rat cage would be taken off his head
@@johnnyzeee5215 I see, I was half joking...I meant to say I frankly have fewer issues with loving the idea of Big Brother himself than being united with those who promote him. And also that I actually do agree that two can be whatever in certain senses, so I don't have a problem with that philosophy, but with forcing everyone to agree with it/see it.
@@natalieanimal4063 Begone vile thoughtcriminal!
A lot of people in the comments aren’t really understanding the full picture. When you really connect with Winston’s character and understand him as a human you understand that it’s near impossible to go against your biology of fear. Fear and not only the knowledge of death but the words to prevent it. Its just words to talk about being brave, formidable to be brave, but most of all admirable to admit you are not greater than human. Going through torture, not being conditioned to pain like Winston and being granted with the option of it being all over, no more fear, no fear of death, its impossible to decide rationally. The reality is in order for Winston to make the decision to die there by his worst fear, he would’ve had to decide that without thinking, shutting off his mind, and without allowing his emotions to direct him, and by doing that he would’ve lost anyways.
I can tell you are a deep tissue thinker. I hope you never sell out, not for love, not for money and not for the easy way out of anything. But if you must sell out, make sure you go ALL the way because what ever is worth doing is worth doing completely. Temet Nosce to infinity…..
Anxiety level when reading this part on the book 📈📈📈
We did the play in high school in 1984. I would have never thought that anything in the book could be as real as the world we live in now. It was meant as a warning to history. Not as a damn playbook.
While the film isn't bad, unfortunately, it does not do the book justice...
Frrr
No, it does not, but that's the case with most adaptions for the big screen.
I don't mind the changes and reductions too much; as a film, it works wonderfully.
The novel "The Shining" and the respective film are tonally very different, but I can enjoy them both.
Books and films are different mediums.
@@lukasnummer1 Indeed. The book was masterfully capable of conveying the horrors. The film simply cannot compete to the original.
I remember crying when I read this part in the book. It really devastated me
I picked this book up expecting V For Vendetta. Ended up with an existential crisis.
I have a phobia of rats so this torture process would break me,
@@sebastianmcgavin3758 well some are scared of spiders and I for one ain't scared of them.
@@JReed1985 I'm scared of spiders I would just close my eyes would never betray my partner.
@@sebastianmcgavin3758 well when they crawl over your face that would be different.
"welcome to the world inside your phone"
gorski11 lol
One thing I love is how O’Brien and Winston are very similar yet so different. They both see Big Brother and the world for what it truly is. But while Winston uses that knowledge to try and push his own freedom, O’Brien chooses to still follow the party and even use that knowledge to further torture others. That’s why O’Brien is the ultimate antagonist to Winston, he understands how he thinks and he uses that knowledge to his advantage to break Winston down further
Psychopathic satisfied sneer from O'Brien at the result
Obriens very slight crack of a smile in the left corner of his mouth when Winston finally did what they had required all this time, give up Julia for himself.
At that very moment, Winston Smith died, and from it Chancellor Sutler was born.
This scene in the book and in the movie hit me so hard for some reason. I mean it was like watching the death of a mans spirit.
Orwell's novel is far more than dystopian fiction or science fiction -- it's metaphysical horror. This film adaptation captures that perfectly.
When I read this book recently. The third part of the story was extremely hard to read and imagine. (The movie had cut out a lot of material when Winton was imprisoned in the ‘Love Ministry’) When O’brein tortured Winston, I really hoped that Winston had something up his sleeve to counter O’breins half page arguments, but reading it further into the book, my hopes were futile, and it was a crushing experience.
Rats: Okay, but can you guys speed this stuff up? We're hungry!
Winston should’ve read the rules of the Walten Files official server before praising Hazbin Hotel
What
Both John Hurt and Richard Burton should have won Oscars for their roles in 1984.
Thanks RUclips recommendation system I'm still reading the book
You can see O'Brien smirk slightly in the end. He knows he's finally broken Winston at that moment. Really creepy.
The worst part about this is, as someone else pointed out, O'Brien couldn't use the other lever, because that would ensure Winston's death before he was broken. The Party can't allow that.
I believe O'brien would. If I'm not mistaken, Julia does get tortured the way Winston would've been tortured by the rats but she doesn't die.
Doing homework with my dad:
Under the spreading chestnut tree
I sold you and you sold me
torture shouldnt take place in the world ...
But if it does they should do it to Julia; That is the message we should all take away from this film.
Tell that to the "hardworking" US prison guards at Gitmo...
+ CLASSICALFAN100
Obama shut that down.
It's unlikely Trump was able to restart the torture, even though he is very enthousiastic about torture. Likely if it has, it's at another secret camp, and not Guantanamo Bay.
Torture happens when you do not resist, through resistance you are a threat, threats are a fear.
It should just be firing squads.
Dafuq do they think they're doing to the Doctor? Don't they know the Gallifreyan saying? "The first thing you notice about the Doctor of War is also the last--he's unarmed."
Rule number 1 the doctor lies
Best and most important book ever written, and this movie does it justice.
Never read the book but this is a 10/10 film
You gotta love how that landscape looks like the Microsoft screensaver...🙈
YES!!!! Why hasn't anyone else mentioned this :-p
Arguably Richard Burton’s finest role. O’Brien did and still does elicit some element of fear in me.
Definitely a frightening and chilling performance.
O'brien is totally desensitized. He has known Winston since he was a boy and he is about to let rats (his deepest fear) ear off his face. He just looks at Winston as cool as a cucumber as he pull the lever to open the cage door. Reminds me of Hillary ignoring the call from Benghazi as they were being over run.
Hillary: "WhAt DiFfErEnCe DoEs It mAkE??"
@@williamneuzil7403 it ain't suspicious at all. As soon as he was gone, NATO scooped up all that sweet sweet gold.
O'Brien didn't know him since he was a kid, it was seen by the police of thought on the secret room Julia and Winston had
You know I was wondering if movie clips was going to turn off the comments I'm happy to see they didn't
That part when Winston saw four fingers, said it was five fingers as he was told, but was shocked anyway because he had to believe in it. Saying was not enough.
The acting is sheer brilliance, but I have to agree with Nightbot. This movie's very dark and depressing. The best way to watch it is via RUclips movie clips. Otherwise, it would be too overpowering.
Yes please! I wish I had an O'Brien in my life to cure me of all my crimethink! Winston simply does not understand how doubleplusgood he has it. I would do ANYTHING for big brother!!! I hope I can go to room 101 one day.
Julia's like "Thanks for nothing, mate".
I have no doubt Julia was saying the same thing about Winston.
In the book, she actually admits this to Winston when they meet again after both are released -- she gave him away immediately.
After seeing this again, I get the sense that Julia wants Winston to capitulate, at that's what Michael Radford had Suzanna Hamilton put on the screen.
Winston was going to die if he let O'Brien release the rats, but he would have won against the party, remember they said in the book that the party doesn't create martyrs, because they can make other people rebel against the party, Winston dies a but his death as a martyr would have probably reached O'Brien and would be the begining of the party's downfall
Where are the O’Brien’s glasses 😂😂 in the book there was almost a dedicated chapter 😂
This book destroys you slowly but relentlessly
Frightening scene, but I doubt rats would behave as described by O'Brien. They'd probably be more terrified of each other.
That's pretty heavy duty...saw one of these rat torture devices strapped to a wax figure's chest, (complete with rat) when I was a child, I never forgot it!
This novel was when I discovered how torture can be more agonizing on paper than on film .
A single fear. Your handle. Yet the spiders web of multiples there's no escape even in your own mind.
Eurythmics score was sensational in this scene. I loved it.
“DO IT TO JULIA, NOT ME!!”
Where is that dream like landscape?
Looks like a perfectly normal enhanced interrogation to me.