I was in a sorority. My experience wasn’t quite as bad as these stories, but I was bullied by the legacies a lot. I was constantly in trouble for just existing, they broke my belongings, one intentionally slept with the guy I was seeing, some pretty gross behavior. It was really miserable to live in the house and I had to fight with the advisory board to get early alum status senior year to move out. The “mean girls” wanted me to drop out of the organization, not be an alum. Ultimately the advisory board granted my petition since I had the best grades in my year and I got to leave the house early. Ironically, after college I never leaned into the networking because I didn’t trust anyone from the sorority and managed to make my way career wise without it. If I could go back in time I wouldn’t have joined at all.
Lol word, sororities talk about friends and sisterhood but this isn't this first time i heard that even after joining the sororities, you still have to deal with bullies and being excluded from things if someone doesn't like u forgot reason
On the origins of fraternities, keep in mind colleges and college life back then was VASTLY different than it is today. Colleges were primarily for educating professionals (doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists) and presented general networking opportunities. You didn't go to college because you didn't know what you wanted to be, or just didn't feel like getting a job.
A black guy in my country tragically died because of such a group called “de reuzegom” in Belgium. He was was tortured, went through horrible things and had to do disgusting stuff which unfortunately lead to his death…. It was very much because of his race… and the guys who did it to him only got like 400hours each of community work 🤬 all because their dad’s are “important” rich men. Can you believe that ?!? Rip Sanda Dia 🕊️
TW: Bad Hazing Story My close friend joined a sorority, and for her hazing, they made her stand in front of a mirror (with no clothes on) while they talked about all of her "insecurities and worst body features." She is literally one of the most beautiful humans; inside and out. Ever since then, she hasn't been happy with herself. It's heartbreaking because she really is stunning.
This just sounds like a bunch of jealous nasty girls trying to pull others down to their level… I can’t imagine ever doing that to someone let alone making/ wanting them to do it
Fraternities are secret societies for colleges. They do these rituals in freemasonry and other secret societies. They do it to initiate the person and for them not to speak about what goes on in there. These people worship deities and they target young people with influence.
TW: discussion of hazing. When I was a freshman in college, I attended several summer parties after moving in early where older sorority girls were present. They would tell me horrible stories about how their Big hazed them by making them sit on a dryer and circle every part of their body that jiggled. Then right after offered me a spot on their sorority if I rushed (which I then found out is called dirty rushing and not allowed). That same year, a fraternity released their pledge class (incoming group) to a sorority and the sorority was tasked with hazing the boys by doing "whatever they wanted to them". They dropped the men off in the middle of a field without their clothes and then the older fraternity members left their pledge class there to be assaulted by the sorority members. It ended up reaching the university very quickly, and the national officials for both the sorority and fraternity showed up to the campus to hold a week of hearings that resulted in a lot of those members being "delettered" (kicked out) and both were threatened with having their campus chapters shut down if there were any further incidents. A lot of the girls would complain at parties about being kicked out, showing no remorse for what they did. It was so bad. They never even faced criminal charges, it was a slap on the wrist to just get kicked out.
The thing that gets me ticked about the Greek System is that a degree of the people who go through it get into privilege or power due to not neccesarily being objectively qualified, but because of the social connections they made. This completely flies in the face of the whole concept of meritocracy.
Well, it is a meritocracy, as those who are more capable of making social connections get into privilege or power! It all depends on what is being measured! ;)
I think the closest we get is some university sports teams. I know the rugby team at my uni had a 'hazing' where they played rugby naked with a frozen turkey and my roommate came back from her hockey initiation so drunk and disoriented we ended up taking her to hospital. So we aren't completely free of these types of groups they are just slightly less ingrained and protected
Look up Sanda Dia, a Belgium student who passed away after a humiliating hazing. He was made to drink a lot of alcohol and fish oil. He was made to sit in a pit with cold water and they peed all over him. He passed away and there’s still no justice for Sanda Dia.
I have 2 best friends whose family had all belonged to a sorority all 3 of us come from really wealthy families and the stories they told me are quite shocking. 1) 1 of them is blond, blue eyes, thin, tall and overall the ideal type for sorority, the other one is the same except brunette. My brunette friend suffered discrimination just because she wasn't blonde, while my blonde friend was favored. 2) They weren't allowed to even speak to me or other people who were NOT part of their sorority often told they would get some sort of punishment if they did. 3) They were often forced to diet and almost sleep with make up and couldn't eat past 7PM. 4) They weren't allowed to speak to guys who didn't belonged in a certain sorority and often forced into dating the guys who "choose" them. Yes CHOOSE them as if they were items and not people. Also, the whole necklace thing was more of a way for the guys to kinda claim the girl as their "property". 5) They often got forced into heavy drinking and one time even drugs, forced to smile and look pretty all the time as well as look like they were having fun. 6) My blonde friend told me about how her roommate was "sold off" basically human trafficking. Apparently this sororities aren't nothing but a trafficking organization who look for the prettiest girls to actually sell to wealthy older men for sex. 7) They weren't allowed to wear certain clothing but always forced into very provocative clothing not to mention forced into practicing all this dance moves to gain members and "sponsors". 8) Lastly, the reason they decided to drop out was when they were getting pressured into sex and again be nice and treat the "sponsors". Not sure if anyone out there has heard or experienced the whole " sponsors" thing or it was uniquely to the sorority that my friends belong to but to me that is so cult like attitude not to mention human trafficking.
I was in a sorority for a semester…it was terrible. They made my life miserable until I quit. They sent me to “standards” (think judge and jury) for social media posts and all sorts of nonsense, it was 100% a cult. I’m close to 2 people I met there, but everything you’re saying is true, and my college wasn’t even that big.
When I was 17 years old I was at a Halloween party with my boyfriend. He had gotten accepted into college the year before and this fraternity had some from friends of his in it. We were moving around in a crowded basement between these 2 rooms and my boyfriend at the time was holding my hand a guiding me through the crowd. He was walking in front of me and I just felt someone grab my ass and squeeze. I was so scared and ask my boyfriend if that was him. He looked at me and asked what I was talking about and I told him that someone just grabbed my butt. He began asking me if I saw who it was and I told him that I was too scared to look and I just wanted to leave. We immediately left and I don't really like to talk about it anymore because it just makes me so mad. I was a minor, they even marked my hand to show that I was still a minor. I have never really believed that any frats or sororities have needed to exist. I understand that they came from pure beginnings, but that is over now. I don't think any college should allow any sort of Greek life on campus.
My grandma told me how two girls in her sorority (who didn't like her for whatever reason) kidnapped her from her room, stripped her to her underwear, poured water on her and tied her to the flag pole. Girls claimed it was just hazing. So fucking insane.
This is the whole reason I refused to even try to get into a sorority. Plus, I’m an introvert, so going to any mixer or meeting was anxiety inducing. The hazing in movies and TV shows just made me mad and I knew it was problematic and just looked like bullying to me. Which is ironic because I can now see some of the things In sororities that I thought were “fine and normal” were not because the cult I was raised in did the same things.
My parents attended West Point (college in the US that is training for the army. Degree is free but you pledge at least 5 years in the army post graduation). Hazing is literally built into the entire culture and some of the policies. One of my moms common stories was how the first years unofficially had to serve older students at every meal. You would be told to cut a pie into 17 equal pieces and if it wasn’t perfect you would be verbally and/or physically harassed. The amount of sexual abuse within the military is also beyond disgusting. There are no fraternities or sororities there but the whole school has that same cult mentality. 0/10 would not recommend
You are absolutely right. This ragging thing or being in cults, clique trend, heirarchical, judgemental, discriminatory, overbearing, condescending, shadiness, pettiness, perniciousness, slyness and splitting mentality that exists worldwide today was started by people in military. Then University students also accepted and started repeating the same things as a trend because it happened to them. Instead of introspecting and realising that they should Not make anyone else go through the same thing because they know how it feels; they decided to use others like an emotional punchbag to throw their own emotional baggage at others and to regulate their own emotions. People preach morality and integrity and then their actions contradict their words and what they claim that they are and believe themselves to be. I avoid rude people but i can never trust hypocrites. Hypocrites are no different than rude ones and they feel the need to hide their reality because they are even more disgusting. Those who don't ask themselves the same questions they have for others need introspection and truth more than answers. This line fits perfectly on hyporcitical people who take pride and think they're morally superior because they hide their reality and are calm in public. They don't understand the difference between diplomacy and Hypocrisy and they can never be morally superior because they lie to themselves. They cannot even look at their reality. _'God can maybe forgive our sins but not the saints we pretend to be.'_
Omg I went to Oregon State and Greek life was huge- I didn’t rush but I had friends in houses. I remember one girl died of alcohol poisoning on her birthday and they didn’t find her body for a few days!!! She was in her bed in the sleeping porch and had blankets up as “privacy curtains”. I only found out because I knew people in the house…they University didn’t talk about..I assume because it would give Greek life a bad reputation.
Great video! One note: Being a lavalier means that you're allowed to wear the letters of your significant other's organization. It was more than a necklace. In order to lavalier someone into your organization, the entire sorority or fraternity had to vote to approve the person to be lavaliered. It meant you had approval of the brothers or sisters in that organization. Greek Life can definitely be dangerous. I was an Alpha Xi Delta at a small private college and I had a positive experience. I was taught a lot by my sorority sisters, and I feel part of a community. Sure there was drinking and partying, but we weren't hazed and we had to maintain a certain GPA to stay in the sorority.
I was in a Alpha Sigma Alpha at a small school and had the same experience. I do not think I would have joined had the school been bigger. I was looking for family, not a loosely connected club.
I was going to say this- Hazing is terrible and I think it’s a bigger issue at big schools. I went to a small school where our Greek life was 3 sororities and 3 fraternities and everyone knew everyone. Our school had super strict hazing rules and we had a lot of things we weren’t allowed to do because it opened the door to hazing. The worst story that happened was actually right after I graduated and became an alum of my sorority. The girls in my chapter had been caught throwing out newspapers due to being accused of hazing (which ended up being unfounded after investigation) and it was a huge story at the school and got around to the point all of us Alum had a text thread about it.
I was a Sigma Alpha Iota at a small private college. Our 'hazing' consisted of this - at the start of pledge week you got a safety pin with ribbons tied in a bow to wear. You had to have it on every time you stepped out of your room. If a sister caught you without it, they went and grabbed the "pin of shame" which was a huge safety pin with a huge ribbon bow on it. You wore that the rest of the day and then went back to the regular pin the next. It was all in a good fun.
It's always been super interesting how greek life works depending on whether or not you're rushing a (mostly) white sorority/ fraternity or a (mostly) black sorority/ fraternity. Either way greek life seems wild and its just really sad hearing and seeing all of these horror stories.
can you explain what you mean by this? I'm college aged and white and never considered the differences, I wanna make content about this subject eventually so if you dont mind, it would be greatly appreciated!
I’m pretty sure there aren’t any “mostly black” fraternities or sororities. The proper term would be historically black but yeah there is a huge difference in the process tho
@@incognitojon902 there is a whole council of black frats and sororities The NPHC also known as the D9 (divine 9) are a group of frats and sororities that are black
In my freshman dorm suite of 8 girls, 6 rushed sororities, the 7th later became student body president, and then there was me. I had to be removed from the suite for my own safety because they all bullied me so badly 😬 and when i was invited to join Phi Beta Kappa (which is like an academic honors society) i flat out refused because i had such a bad experience with the sorority girls 🤦♀️ but I'm fine now. Can't say the same for them
TRIGGER WARNING- SA I was raped by a frat guy who said he'd walk me home from a party. I think this was my second week of freshman year. I was 17. I'm also autistic, and unfortunately after it happened the first time I did was take a shower. Once I was finally thinking straight enough the next morning to actually process what had happened to me I made the decision not to go to the cops. I blamed myself and didn't tell a soul what had happened to me for 5 years. Another girl who was raped by a frat guy... Everyone turned on her, tried to ruin her life. She ended up just shutting up and leaving I guess because I never saw her around again. I saw what happened when you accuse a frat guy and that further reinforced my decision. These guys would talk about running train on girls passed out up in their rooms. The girls they considered "hot enough" would get brought up to their private lounge rooms and sometimes bedrooms. They kept the drugs and the good liquor up here, and they always had some girly cocktail mixtures and stuff on hand. They would be very forceful that we drink and drink and, "That's right, good girl, keep drinking." Pretty much how you escaped was saying you had to go to bathroom and those were in the hallway so you had to leave the room. That was some crazy stuff...
That's utterly disgusting and horrifying. You should definitely contact the police. These kinds of things should not be allowed on campus and calling the police would save other young girls from becoming victims! I am so sorry this happened to you... Hope these men will be punished by law
Omg I'm so sad you had to go through that. I am autistic aswell and have been SA'd aswell and I resonated with your story a lot. We're here for eachother ❤️🙏
small college vs big college greek life is so jarring. im apart of a sorority at a fairly small state school (only 4 sororities and 7 fraternities in total) and my experience with my sorority has been amazing and ive met some of the most wonderful people, but the frats honestly have the same issues as top school frats which just goes to show that frats of any size have the capability to get away scotch free while sororities are held to extremely high standards in comparison (from my perspective at a small school; not sure abt big schools)
I think size has so much to do with this for sororities. My chapter was relatively new so we had people from nationals watching us more often than sororities are typically watched so it was very hard for anything to happen and apart from one incident after I graduated we didn’t have hazing.
True I went to a small college and the fraternities/ sororities were basically clubs that had no houses. The thought they were better than everyone else and I hated everyone in college.
I actually had a really great experience! I was a Pi Phi at the University of Michigan and never experienced hazing and was never treated poorly (even though I'm well aware it happens elsewhere and I'm certainly not trying to discredit anyone else's experiences!). Most of the girls in my house I feel like were majoring in STEM or healthcare fields so studying and doing well in school was priority #1. I joined to get out of my shell and make new friends which I definitely did! I wish everyone could've had the experience I did 😪
I’m from that area and I feel like UofM Greek life has a lot of awesome chapters bc people who go there are frankly very intelligent. My best friend was in a frat there and is a wonderful guy, but overall I am typically someone who wouldn’t associate with Greek like folks when I was in college.
ill never understand college culture, sorority/frat culture specifically. even the "positives" sound unbearable, anyone who chooses to willingly participate seriously confuse me
as a person with really bad social anxiety and a fear of abandonment i’m rushing to have a guaranteed group of people. i’m going to a large school and this forces me to social so i don’t get depressed. It’s obviously not for everyone but i see myself benefitting from it.
@@frenchfriedtomatoes3247point being, you probably won’t have a guaranteed group of people. If you don’t fit their norm 100% but still get in, they may pretend to be your friend because their sister code bs requires it, but they will break you down mentally, bully you, talk bad behind your back. From personal experience: you’re better off without Greek life even with anxiety. I wish I never did it. ESPECIALLY if you already have mental health issues that shit is dangerous and it’s gonna make your mental health worse, I can almost guarantee it.
This was a great overview. I am a brown Apache Indian and have had mixed experiences - some very surprising. Others were horrible. In graduate school, I had a roommate who went onto become a fraternity president at Arizona State. He was a nice Italian guy from Boston. When he moved into his fraternity, I actually helped him move in - a brown Apache guy from the reservation. He wasn't racist at all. He even told me my Native American appearance somewhat resembles some Italians. At first, I thought he was joking but I learned some Italians are very tan due to intermixing with surrounding countries of the Middle East - different color shades resulted in Italy. In the corporate world, I had one coworker from a high-ranking fraternity at Nebraska who was very polite and supportive of my career. He gave me good reviews. Those two guys were not "racist frat guys" at all. By contrast, I did run into racism with two fraternity guys in Tallahassee. I used to go to a local gym and there were two frat guys who always lifted weights together. Over time, one of them said to the other how ugly he thought I looked. Eventually, they tried to pick a fight with me. I contacted the Division of Student Affairs at Florida State. They wanted me to call the police on those two white frat guys who clearly wanted to get violent. But I just quit the gym and left. After that experience, I started going to the main FSU campus gym seeking safety in numbers. I thought I would run into racist frat guys again. I even notified gym staff and asked them what to do about calling police. They said they would help me. But I never ran into two racist frat guys like that again in the main campus gym. This was notable because there were MANY frat guys at the main campus gym as well. I played basketball with them numerous times over years. So, in my opinion, some fraternities can have "problems" which can include racism. But they are not all like that. I think it's important to look at the individual and local context. With that said, the negative clusters are clearly out there as you pointed out. As for sororities, I know Alabama has had issues with racism. I read one article about a light-skinned Latina who made into a southern sorority in Mississippi. And she noted harsh racism behind the scenes and a clear preference for white segregation based on Eurocentric beauty standards. Such horror stories are common on the internet about southern sororities. So, at FSU, when I studied the MPH I was totally avoidant of a southern sorority girl in the class from Georgia. She often came in with her sorority letters on shirts and events they had sponsored. I didn't even want to acknowledge her presence because I thought she was virulently racist. I was cold and distant at first. But over time it became clear to me she wasn't racist. Ironically, she was actually the nicest person in the class to me. I got to know her in the courses and from the state job where she worked in the next building. I often saw her there. I learned it was wrong to assume all southern sorority girls are racist. She clearly was not. I was surprised but happy about it. With that said, the negative clusters you pointed out are there for sororities too. There were a few racist white women at FSU - not very frequent but annoying at times. So, I think sororities and fraternities are not always bad. The population is large enough nationwide that many of them are nice normal students. But it's best not to pretend the negative clusters don't exist.
i went to an art school so we didnt have these there but whenever i went to my cousins school, i remember them having a really ínstense football community. her and her friends knew some of the freshman players in their year and id come and hang out with them and go to parties. ill never forget one night when one of the football players was drunk and messing around and started dancing up on me, and i pushed him away like back off dude lol and when i did that, my cousins roommate looked at me and was telling me to stop like i was the one in the wrong? when hes the one who came up and started grinding? its crazy just how intense people can be when it comes to their college teams, they get away with ALOT
That’s so gross. He’s entitled to your body because he can throw around a ball? Most college and high school players don’t go pro, so many girls act like groupie hoes for future enterprise rent a car salesmen
Thank you for making this video! I was a part of a sorority in college for 2 years, and you are pretty spot on with everything you said in this video. I joined because I wanted to make new friends and network, but I didn't know what I was truly getting myself into. I could literally write a whole damn book with all of my experiences lol. From what you said in the video, the whole "rush" period is weird AF. It's like who can impress each other more. The initiation process is also weird, creepy, culty and so WHACK. Like how is this even a thing?! Also the amount of drama, back stabbing and childish bullshit there was is unreal. Not to mention the hazing! During my time, there were a few frats and sororities that actually got kicked off campus for super dangerous and disgusting hazing. I, thankfully, was never hazed, but my other friends in other sororities were and the things they had to do just to "prove" that they were worthy of being in the sorority was wild and truly shocking.
Back when I was in college in the mid 2010s, I remember hearing that one of the sororities on campus took all the “ugly and fat girls” not wanted by the other sororities. It always seemed like most of the sororities wanted the skinny and blonde women and would deny anyone who didn’t fit the mould.
It’s called being a legacy, if your parents where members of the sorority or fraternity, you automatically get a bid, regardless of if u fits their superficial standards or not.
@@SN-qd9qw legacies had it relatively easy in the past. My daughter is currently an active member in a “top tier” chapter. Being a leg will get you to round 2. But it is not an automatic bid. Go on any national chapter’s social page around recruitment time. You’ll find many angry alumna speaking in the comments about a legacy not getting invited to pref. I agree with you. Legacies SHOULD receive a bid. It just doesn’t always happen. Joining a sorority for me was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. The girls in my chapter during my active time are still my close friends. I knew every girl in my chapter. When someone is in need still today, we RALLY for them. However, it isn’t the same now. The idea of building a sisterhood of friends is not the priority anymore. It’s just about pretty faces, letters on a shirt, status, and social events. Sad.
This is so fascinating! Thank you! Both of my sisters were in sororities. My twin was in the very one formed and had a great experience. My little sister was straight bullied and harassed out of hers during her first year at school. And surprise! The school did nothing.
I've believed for YEARS that everything wrong with grown ass adults starts in Greek life. women being beat into submission and put into competition w one another, and men enjoying power over others and that whole hierarchy
I understand how being in a frat or sorority (or any group for that matter) can establish connections for jobs and whatnot, but my problem is that that can sometimes lead one to hiring the wrong person or people. That and it doesn't allow for a fresh perspective/growth. The reason I can't join a sorority is because of my circle of trust lol. I unfortunately have a hard time trusting others and if I did have any alcoholic drinks, it would also be only around certain people or at home.
You are amazing for sharing your story Isabella. I'm 22 and I have been objectified and touched MY WHOLE LIFE. and when you mentioned that just touching or kissing someone without their consent is just as bad as being r worded, that made me almost cry tears of joy because nobody believes my experience is how I am now and why I don't like to show ANY form of physical affection. (I mean kissing, I'm asexual and very sex repulsed.) but I cannot wait for the full video!!
Thank you for sharing this! I want to add that differences can spread even between different schools/chapters. I was lucky enough to be apart of a very diverse sorority and anti hazing was one of our main focuses as a chapter. But I had met people who had dropped another one of our chapters at another school because they were forcing the girls to get tattoos to be initiated on top of horrible verbal and emotional abuse. I was so heartbroken that people who I would consider fellow sisters/siblings could treat people like that
What I found interesting when I went through rush, is that when you sign up to participate, some academic institutions or Greek systems have an almost NDA clause about rush embedded in the contract you sign. In my particular case, I was 17 as a freshman, so my NDA was never legal, as they just assumed I was 18. This was also never corrected later either. So when I watched the Bama documentary (I did not attend that university) it makes soo much sense why “big chunks” are “missing”….this put me in a very unique position, because I couldn’t hide behind an NDA if legally questioned, but I’m also not bound by one so I can legally say everything I personally witnessed…….yeah….yeah…wow…..it’s mind boggling how the system works to protect their own, and the lengths they go to………it gets to a point where trauma becomes almost normalized and in some cases, even celebrated “as a right of passage”. Yeah…uhh….yeah…Ummm..errr…there’s not an emoji for the face I’m currently making…..not all of it was bad, and not everyone does bad things. I wasn’t making an all encompassing statement.
You would think that as an Educational Institution if one of the associations on your campus requires students to sign an nda, maybe they shouldn’t be operating are allowed on school campus.
@@SN-qd9qw more of a confidentiality clause….but who takes the time to read an entire user agreement now a days? Most people have no idea what they agreed to in haste…..
I went to Ole Miss where Greek life was MAJOR. They were actually pretty welcoming and inclusive to people who didn't rush/join... As long as you were hot 🙄 while I had a pretty big group of friends while in college, pretty much all of them were not also attending the University
Sororities are so much like MLMs, I feel like some girls feel that they absolutely need to stick it out through hazing or bullying, for the opportunities because they have committed and don't want to be a drop out, like in MLM's, and at some universities if you don't rush, you WILL NOT get nearly as many carreer opportunities as those who rushed and stick it out
My college didn't have a super big Greek life but did have a few, and one of the frats actually got like...disowned by their national organization (whatever the term is) because they were that bad. It was notorious among the students, my freshman RA told our floor not to go to their parties alone ESPECIALLY girls. It wasn't even a secret. They got banned a year or two later. I think they tried to keep running unofficially but the school was not having it. The others all seemed okay, I even knew a few people in sororities who loved it, but it just goes to show how insular communities like that can become infected so easily.
When you are sharing your experience of being harassed at bars and clubs, that happened to me a lot when I was in university as I would go out all the time… And honestly now it’s too exhausting to even think about having to navigate those people so I just never go out
It’s funny because I am now 65 years old and I still remember This. I pledged sororities in Bozeman Montana. When I was young, I remember the paternity I was trying to get into didn’t like me, because I wore too much mascara! A girl in the sorority told me this later I called my parents and cried and cried. I ended up getting into a sorority that was more diverse with wonderful girls.
I almost started defending Greek Life before the video started but then I thought about a few things: 1. Not everyone had the experience I had. Every college has different cultures and even if I went to a different chapter from my sorority it's likely my experience would be completely different. 2. Who responds negatively without watching the video? That's stupid. 3. You're not the first person to point these things out so there has to be some truth to it. I also went to a school where someone died due to hazing at his fraternity. I love my sorority sisters, but to defend Greek life while people are dying is pretty messed up to me. I can't believe I wrote a novel before watching the video 😅
I was in a sorority and truly had a very positive experience. I am a very shy person and barely knew anybody going into college, so I joined to make friends. Sure, I have some criticisms about it, but I would not have met some of my best friends and I feel like my college experience would have been much more lonely if not for my chapter. Also, our panhellenic system really had it together when it came to hazing. We weren't even allowed to talk to the new members for a full 24 hours after bid day bc that could be classified as hazing. I obviously can't speak for how other chapters operate but I am very thankful I had a good experience
I was in a sorority for about 2 years at a school where Greek life wasn't all that popular. We were under the radar and until we weren't after a senior member was hazed by a group of girls. I was never hazed, for the record. The sorority was on probation for a year, which lead to being disbanded as we couldn't get enough ladies ro join.
love and watch all your videos but can not watch this at all due to my trauma from rushing at the univ of alabama last year this topic causes me so much anxiety
I've also been grabbed like this in bars. One time I started yelling at one guy and they just pointed at each other and laughed and said "it was him." ugh
I went ADPi by accident 😆 I knew nothing about rush, didn’t do it. But got invited to hang out and the next week they were singing at my door offering me a spot to try and join (I did end up joining cause I figured why not). It was alright (didn’t experience any hazing or anything), I did make some lifelong friendships but could of totally done the same without it.
I've felt this way about frats for along time and I'm only 23 i know a lot of people who have been in them and no there not all bad but ive always just found them odd my dad was in a frat in omaha told some interesting stories. A lot of this stuff has been going on for decades, and just now getting talked about and looked at , I'm glad hope more realize how little they matter its all a show..
In Finland universities also have ”sororities & fraternities” But there is no hazing etc, although some people do still drink quite a lot of alcohol. Also the memberships are usually only 10€ and only the events cost as well as no part is mandatory unless you are in the board for example as a corporate relations person or freshmen captain. Altough here they are mostly called guilds instead, such as guild of electrican engineering, etc and the members are often the students of that major.
im in canada and remember the rich popular girls in my high school (graduated 2017) going to attend school in the US for the sole reason of joining a sorority
Frats/sororities are inherently good for students in my opinion. However, I think the honor societies that arent necessarily greek organizations are a better choice. There are people that abuse others in any organization. When a person has authority or influence over others, abuse is likely at some point, especially in a group setting. Frats/sororities are not cults. When drugs and or alcohol are involved with people, your obviously going to get crime. Many student organizations are doing a great job in what they do. I wouldn't lump all frats/sororities into one group as each is different. Im Christian ✝️ and so I follow Christ. Helping others is the name of the game. Take care.
idk about pwi (predominantly white institutions) but at hbcu (historically black college universities) people who choose not to join greek life are called gdi (god dam individual) and i am so proud to be one
Great exposure to this Isabella! Also, KiKi, one of your peers in this community, did an amazing job on a Bama video. I think it's great that there is exposure to all of this. Can't wait to see your video in August! :)
I go to Bowling Green State University and am apart of greek life there. After Stone they have improved a lot for hazing. Something so tragic that happened to Stone but he has made greek life at my school safer and hazing has a zero tolerance now. My sorority has never hazed it is different for fraternities ofc. But don’t let this scare you! It depends on what school you go to! But there are definitely schools that still practice these horrbile hazing behaviors.
An old friend told me that they had to sit on a washing machine to see what "jiggled" and it had to jiggle less each time they checked or they risked being kicked out of the sorority. Glad I had never took part of greek life.
Hey! I know this video is pretty old but I love watching stuff like this because since I'm an active member in a sorority, I feel like I can debunk some things and clarify. Obviously, there are things I'm not allowed to speak on, but it is nothing like what you think when I say that. I hate misinformation so the stuff I'm sharing I'm being serious about and genuine. terminology: Chapter (a specific sorority/fraternity at a specific university (e.g. Sigma Delta Tau, Gamma Lambda Chapter (SDT at FSU) is different from Sigma Delta Tau, Upsilon Chapter (SDT at IU, Bloomington), Ritual (personal information that each chapter has which it is not allowed to share with 3rd parties not in those frats or sororities (they can still share with other chapters in their own sorority (so SDT Gamma Lambda can share with SDT Upsilon chapter))) POC (people of color). PNM (potential new member) For the hazing and rape/sexual assault I totally agree, there are way too many greek chapters in the US that haze in very unsafe ways when they shouldn't be doing it at all. I am lucky enough to not be in a chapter that hazes and they're all like my best friends, but I am in no way saying that it doesn't happen. It's a terrible issue, and I wish that panhellenic would do more than showing awareness slides to PNMs to stop it. For the social media posting limitations, the only limitations that most chapters have are to protect ritual information (aka personal things different chapters have to initiate new members, elect board members, voting etc.) and the image of the chapter. For example, my sorority sisters are not allowed to post pictures of themselves for initiation, but lots of other sororities allow it to celebrate! It's less culty in my opinion as it is just what has been done over time because of how personal it is. If we were to expose those things, it would not feel as personal and sweet because we're just sharing it with everyone. Greek life secrets can definitely vary from dangerous to terrifying, but in my experience, the secrets are for bonding purposes and not to keep outside parties from seeing any cult-like activities. Secondly on this issue, to me it makes sense to have restrictions on what members can post because they are representing their chapters and obviously their chapters don't want to show off underage drinking or anything illegal since they're a professional organization. Nothing I personally am restricted from posting hinders my life in any way and it doesn't feel controlling since it's information I wouldn't have if I wasn't in the chapter and it's just respectful to my sisters and alumn. On the topic of sororities only having girls that look the same, I definitely think there is a diversity problem at almost every school that permeates not only greek life, but just the school population in general. There have obviously been racist circumstances where some greek organizations don't even let in poc, which is terrible, and this is something else panhellenic needs to recognize as suspension worthy on a higher level. There are black sororities and fraternities, however, I would like to see a greek norm one day where poc are in every chapter consistently. I can't say that there aren't some chapters that judge girls on their looks, but I also genuinely believe it's more about fitting in with the girls at those chapters than looking the same as them. When I went through recruitment, there was a disproportionate amount of women with platinum hair and tanned skin. Nothing wrong with that I love a good sunkissed look, but I'm saying this to show that since the pool of women rushing are disproportionately white and blonde, the amount of women in the sororities are also going to be mostly white and blonde. It's encouraged for PNMs to be themselves and wear what's comfortable during recruitment and as far as I'm aware this is true for all panhellenic associations, but it has become the norm over time to dress your best and show off the best side of yourself, which definitely causes many girls to get stressed over looks. I wish that every PNM could understand that if a chapter doesn't invite you back because of your looks, you wouldn't want to be a part of that anyways. I know lots of chapters at other schools do it and I could not be more disappointed because it's very shallow and definitely not a good representation of what sisterhood should be about. With that being said I really do love my sorority and greek life culture because it hasn't been toxic to me and I've found some of my closest friends in my chapter. Sisterhood events (things like painting pottery together, watching a movie together, etc.) are so fun too it's honestly just the biggest excuse to spend time with people you automatically get along with as long as you put yourself in the right chapter. If any PNMs are reading this, I have 3 little pieces of advice. 1. Go greek, but not at the caust of your life, safety, or mental health. 2. Greek rank is very petty and rarely accurate to how you will experience those chapters. See if you like it and if they're a-holes, leave. Everyone has different experiences. 3. Be yourself in rush/recruitment and you will have the best time. Being anyone else would undermine your stellar personality!!! If anyone has any questions def comment and I will answer! Like I said, I love talking about this and debunking misinformation so be my guest!
Hi Isabella! So I was in a sorority in college. I went to a school with about 2k people so my sorority chapter had at most 30 people at one time. I would say my experience is not typical to a larger school and being in a group of 100 or so folks. But, even at a small school shit went down. I don't think there is enough oversight on Greek organizations and ultimately that leads to people losing their lives. In terms of hazing it is a real issue and I am glad you took the time to research and produce this video. Also, I'm so sorry you've had to deal with so much sexual harassment from people in public. As a fem person I have too and it's a gross and dehumanizing feeling to be touched that way.
It wasn't until my Senior year, that I finaly met some new friends from a Fraternity & Sister Sorority, who happened to be far different, from the a-holes, that I dealt with for the 1st 3 years. Otherwise, I would have wanted to Ban the whole entire system. But, this video definitely Triggered me, because of the early experiences, when I almost got talked into joining a Frat, by tons of "Peer Pressure" my Freshman Year.
When we paid dues in my sorority, we had no say in where those dues went towards, a certain amount went to nationals (about 1/4th of dues) but everything else was decided on by the exec board, so all other 70 members had zero input
look into highpoint uni- the school is full of the richest kids and has so many problems with greek life and nepotism. my bf’s sister went there and saw a guy buy handicapped spots for his ferraris. it’s awful there
Greek culture creates adults who go forth into the workforce with the expectation to get ahead not by merit but by who they know as well as office/employee hazing labeled team building. They learn humiliation games that they think is okay, normal.
There need to be stricter regulations in my opinion. Groups can function without the nonsense that Greek Life can perpetuate. Sure, you may not like someone or what they did, but to do what some will do? Nah, that's not okay and Greek Life is past due for an overhaul. After a friend's daughter was subjected to being put in psychiatric hold for 72 hours by one of the "sisters", I definitely developed a jaundiced eye toward sororities. The young woman submitted didn't have a current or past record acting out or dangerous behavior; they just were pissed at her and wanted her gone. And because she was an "adult", it wasn't really questioned save by the family.
I went to college in the early '90s and hazing was a serious problem then, too. However, my university (DePaul Univ., Chicago) didn't allow frat/sorority houses. The campus was in an upscale neighborhood where even then houses regularly sold for millions of dollars. The school didn't want to make enemies of the neighbors. Instead, our frats and sororities had lunch tables with bulletin boards on the wall behind them. I didn't know anyone who belonged to one or had even applied(?, I don't know what it's called).
First time watching your content. Just so you know, gossiping is ALWAYS bad. There is NEVER a time when gossiping should be considered "sharing information." Gossip is MISinformation that's harmful to other people's reputation and usually is untrue in part or wholly. Nobody likes a gossip. If they're talking about other people to you, they're talking about you to other people. Not a friend.
Ive been in the army for 4 years we dont lie about the stuff that happens to new guys or fngs the stories coming out of fraternities and or sororities is sometimes horrible my first barracks party/ initiation was to chug a redbull with a 50 50 mix of Hennessy and vodka and then down 10 shots sucked but was fun in the moment
When I was in college I had three roommates who were all in different sororities. They were wild lol. But fun roomies. I was never in one but we r all still friends today. College was in early 90s. 😊
We also weren't allowed to talk about anything outside of meetings, that we discussed in meetings... like it was so so culty and my school did not have a huge greek life
I did Greek life in university. I was in a service sorority and an academic one. A lot of the ones in the news are social. (If it has a house, there's a 99.99% chance it's social.) Social Greek life has always interested me, but in how they function. I'm curious to see what you have to say about them. I'll probably have another response after the video.
i was in a sorority.. i’m so sorry for all these bad experiences, but i wanted to shed light on the good side! my experience was amazing and not every sorority or fraternity indulges in “hazing” or “bullying”. sure, you won’t get along with every girl but at the end of the day those are your sisters and they’re there for u when you need them most. depending on the sorority if you don’t attend an event you don’t get fined, all depends on the amount of sisters u have. and lastly, it’s not just about paying for friends, you’re apart of an organization that raises money for their philanthropy and bring in the legacy going for your specific organization!
there was a rumor at our school that alpha phi hazed their newbies by making them sit on washing machines and circling all the areas of fat that jiggled with a sharpie. another guy i remember hearing about was “kidnapped” and dropped off in the middle of nowhere in the dark without a phone so his objective was to find his way back
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I was in a sorority. My experience wasn’t quite as bad as these stories, but I was bullied by the legacies a lot. I was constantly in trouble for just existing, they broke my belongings, one intentionally slept with the guy I was seeing, some pretty gross behavior. It was really miserable to live in the house and I had to fight with the advisory board to get early alum status senior year to move out. The “mean girls” wanted me to drop out of the organization, not be an alum. Ultimately the advisory board granted my petition since I had the best grades in my year and I got to leave the house early.
Ironically, after college I never leaned into the networking because I didn’t trust anyone from the sorority and managed to make my way career wise without it. If I could go back in time I wouldn’t have joined at all.
Lol word, sororities talk about friends and sisterhood but this isn't this first time i heard that even after joining the sororities, you still have to deal with bullies and being excluded from things if someone doesn't like u forgot reason
You can still denounce your sorority. All your own success was you.
I actually Dated a Girl just like you! We both stayed as far away from her House as possible !
On the origins of fraternities, keep in mind colleges and college life back then was VASTLY different than it is today. Colleges were primarily for educating professionals (doctors, lawyers, engineers, scientists) and presented general networking opportunities. You didn't go to college because you didn't know what you wanted to be, or just didn't feel like getting a job.
College should be just for education! What is this madness? No wonder education is failing. 😡
Phi Beta Kappa started in 1776. There were just a *few* things going on then that young men wanted to discuss without their professors eavesdropping.
A black guy in my country tragically died because of such a group called “de reuzegom” in Belgium. He was was tortured, went through horrible things and had to do disgusting stuff which unfortunately lead to his death…. It was very much because of his race… and the guys who did it to him only got like 400hours each of community work 🤬 all because their dad’s are “important” rich men. Can you believe that ?!? Rip Sanda Dia 🕊️
Its Belgium. I’m not surprised and it’s believable considering it’s racist past.
Wouldn’t be the first time you animals did a vile thing to a black guy
Rest in peace Sanda Dia ❤
His case breaks my heart. Like omg.
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TW: Bad Hazing Story
My close friend joined a sorority, and for her hazing, they made her stand in front of a mirror (with no clothes on) while they talked about all of her "insecurities and worst body features." She is literally one of the most beautiful humans; inside and out. Ever since then, she hasn't been happy with herself. It's heartbreaking because she really is stunning.
This just sounds like a bunch of jealous nasty girls trying to pull others down to their level… I can’t imagine ever doing that to someone let alone making/ wanting them to do it
I would have told them “I’m not doing that” and left. lol
@@jayg5391 I probably would have stayed. I was not that strong with 18 and I'm sure the peer pressure in these kinds of situations is insane.
Fraternities are secret societies for colleges. They do these rituals in freemasonry and other secret societies. They do it to initiate the person and for them not to speak about what goes on in there. These people worship deities and they target young people with influence.
@@Shirumoon that's true, i wasn't strong back then either. thankfully i didn't meet horrible people like these!
TW: discussion of hazing.
When I was a freshman in college, I attended several summer parties after moving in early where older sorority girls were present. They would tell me horrible stories about how their Big hazed them by making them sit on a dryer and circle every part of their body that jiggled. Then right after offered me a spot on their sorority if I rushed (which I then found out is called dirty rushing and not allowed). That same year, a fraternity released their pledge class (incoming group) to a sorority and the sorority was tasked with hazing the boys by doing "whatever they wanted to them". They dropped the men off in the middle of a field without their clothes and then the older fraternity members left their pledge class there to be assaulted by the sorority members. It ended up reaching the university very quickly, and the national officials for both the sorority and fraternity showed up to the campus to hold a week of hearings that resulted in a lot of those members being "delettered" (kicked out) and both were threatened with having their campus chapters shut down if there were any further incidents. A lot of the girls would complain at parties about being kicked out, showing no remorse for what they did. It was so bad. They never even faced criminal charges, it was a slap on the wrist to just get kicked out.
WTH?.!!
The thing that gets me ticked about the Greek System is that a degree of the people who go through it get into privilege or power due to not neccesarily being objectively qualified, but because of the social connections they made. This completely flies in the face of the whole concept of meritocracy.
It's literally that. It was made for the rich to network.
The problem is that meritocracy is kind of a myth in a lot of cases in life.
Well, it is a meritocracy, as those who are more capable of making social connections get into privilege or power!
It all depends on what is being measured! ;)
As a Brit the whole setup is a strange mystery, unique I think to US
Very much
As an Aussie, I absolutely agree.
as a Canadian, I concur
I think the closest we get is some university sports teams. I know the rugby team at my uni had a 'hazing' where they played rugby naked with a frozen turkey and my roommate came back from her hockey initiation so drunk and disoriented we ended up taking her to hospital. So we aren't completely free of these types of groups they are just slightly less ingrained and protected
Same, from the UK to, went to a top University and there was nothing like this.
Look up Sanda Dia, a Belgium student who passed away after a humiliating hazing. He was made to drink a lot of alcohol and fish oil. He was made to sit in a pit with cold water and they peed all over him. He passed away and there’s still no justice for Sanda Dia.
I have 2 best friends whose family had all belonged to a sorority all 3 of us come from really wealthy families and the stories they told me are quite shocking.
1) 1 of them is blond, blue eyes, thin, tall and overall the ideal type for sorority, the other one is the same except brunette. My brunette friend suffered discrimination just because she wasn't blonde, while my blonde friend was favored.
2) They weren't allowed to even speak to me or other people who were NOT part of their sorority often told they would get some sort of punishment if they did.
3) They were often forced to diet and almost sleep with make up and couldn't eat past 7PM.
4) They weren't allowed to speak to guys who didn't belonged in a certain sorority and often forced into dating the guys who "choose" them. Yes CHOOSE them as if they were items and not people. Also, the whole necklace thing was more of a way for the guys to kinda claim the girl as their "property".
5) They often got forced into heavy drinking and one time even drugs, forced to smile and look pretty all the time as well as look like they were having fun.
6) My blonde friend told me about how her roommate was "sold off" basically human trafficking. Apparently this sororities aren't nothing but a trafficking organization who look for the prettiest girls to actually sell to wealthy older men for sex.
7) They weren't allowed to wear certain clothing but always forced into very provocative clothing not to mention forced into practicing all this dance moves to gain members and "sponsors".
8) Lastly, the reason they decided to drop out was when they were getting pressured into sex and again be nice and treat the "sponsors".
Not sure if anyone out there has heard or experienced the whole " sponsors" thing or it was uniquely to the sorority that my friends belong to but to me that is so cult like attitude not to mention human trafficking.
I was in a sorority for a semester…it was terrible. They made my life miserable until I quit. They sent me to “standards” (think judge and jury) for social media posts and all sorts of nonsense, it was 100% a cult. I’m close to 2 people I met there, but everything you’re saying is true, and my college wasn’t even that big.
When I was 17 years old I was at a Halloween party with my boyfriend. He had gotten accepted into college the year before and this fraternity had some from friends of his in it. We were moving around in a crowded basement between these 2 rooms and my boyfriend at the time was holding my hand a guiding me through the crowd. He was walking in front of me and I just felt someone grab my ass and squeeze. I was so scared and ask my boyfriend if that was him. He looked at me and asked what I was talking about and I told him that someone just grabbed my butt. He began asking me if I saw who it was and I told him that I was too scared to look and I just wanted to leave. We immediately left and I don't really like to talk about it anymore because it just makes me so mad. I was a minor, they even marked my hand to show that I was still a minor. I have never really believed that any frats or sororities have needed to exist. I understand that they came from pure beginnings, but that is over now. I don't think any college should allow any sort of Greek life on campus.
My grandma told me how two girls in her sorority (who didn't like her for whatever reason) kidnapped her from her room, stripped her to her underwear, poured water on her and tied her to the flag pole. Girls claimed it was just hazing. So fucking insane.
This is the whole reason I refused to even try to get into a sorority. Plus, I’m an introvert, so going to any mixer or meeting was anxiety inducing. The hazing in movies and TV shows just made me mad and I knew it was problematic and just looked like bullying to me. Which is ironic because I can now see some of the things In sororities that I thought were “fine and normal” were not because the cult I was raised in did the same things.
My parents attended West Point (college in the US that is training for the army. Degree is free but you pledge at least 5 years in the army post graduation). Hazing is literally built into the entire culture and some of the policies. One of my moms common stories was how the first years unofficially had to serve older students at every meal. You would be told to cut a pie into 17 equal pieces and if it wasn’t perfect you would be verbally and/or physically harassed. The amount of sexual abuse within the military is also beyond disgusting. There are no fraternities or sororities there but the whole school has that same cult mentality. 0/10 would not recommend
You are absolutely right. This ragging thing or being in cults, clique trend, heirarchical, judgemental, discriminatory, overbearing, condescending, shadiness, pettiness, perniciousness, slyness and splitting mentality that exists worldwide today was started by people in military. Then University students also accepted and started repeating the same things as a trend because it happened to them. Instead of introspecting and realising that they should Not make anyone else go through the same thing because they know how it feels; they decided to use others like an emotional punchbag to throw their own emotional baggage at others and to regulate their own emotions. People preach morality and integrity and then their actions contradict their words and what they claim that they are and believe themselves to be. I avoid rude people but i can never trust hypocrites. Hypocrites are no different than rude ones and they feel the need to hide their reality because they are even more disgusting.
Those who don't ask themselves the same questions they have for others need introspection and truth more than answers. This line fits perfectly on hyporcitical people who take pride and think they're morally superior because they hide their reality and are calm in public. They don't understand the difference between diplomacy and Hypocrisy and they can never be morally superior because they lie to themselves. They cannot even look at their reality.
_'God can maybe forgive our sins but not the saints we pretend to be.'_
It's a good thing you didn't make an officer. Sounds like you're not cut out for the military much less a frat. lol
Omg I went to Oregon State and Greek life was huge- I didn’t rush but I had friends in houses. I remember one girl died of alcohol poisoning on her birthday and they didn’t find her body for a few days!!! She was in her bed in the sleeping porch and had blankets up as “privacy curtains”. I only found out because I knew people in the house…they University didn’t talk about..I assume because it would give Greek life a bad reputation.
Great video! One note: Being a lavalier means that you're allowed to wear the letters of your significant other's organization. It was more than a necklace. In order to lavalier someone into your organization, the entire sorority or fraternity had to vote to approve the person to be lavaliered. It meant you had approval of the brothers or sisters in that organization.
Greek Life can definitely be dangerous. I was an Alpha Xi Delta at a small private college and I had a positive experience. I was taught a lot by my sorority sisters, and I feel part of a community. Sure there was drinking and partying, but we weren't hazed and we had to maintain a certain GPA to stay in the sorority.
I was in a Alpha Sigma Alpha at a small school and had the same experience. I do not think I would have joined had the school been bigger. I was looking for family, not a loosely connected club.
I was going to say this- Hazing is terrible and I think it’s a bigger issue at big schools. I went to a small school where our Greek life was 3 sororities and 3 fraternities and everyone knew everyone. Our school had super strict hazing rules and we had a lot of things we weren’t allowed to do because it opened the door to hazing. The worst story that happened was actually right after I graduated and became an alum of my sorority. The girls in my chapter had been caught throwing out newspapers due to being accused of hazing (which ended up being unfounded after investigation) and it was a huge story at the school and got around to the point all of us Alum had a text thread about it.
I was a Sigma Alpha Iota at a small private college. Our 'hazing' consisted of this - at the start of pledge week you got a safety pin with ribbons tied in a bow to wear. You had to have it on every time you stepped out of your room. If a sister caught you without it, they went and grabbed the "pin of shame" which was a huge safety pin with a huge ribbon bow on it. You wore that the rest of the day and then went back to the regular pin the next. It was all in a good fun.
It's always been super interesting how greek life works depending on whether or not you're rushing a (mostly) white sorority/ fraternity or a (mostly) black sorority/ fraternity. Either way greek life seems wild and its just really sad hearing and seeing all of these horror stories.
can you explain what you mean by this? I'm college aged and white and never considered the differences, I wanna make content about this subject eventually so if you dont mind, it would be greatly appreciated!
I’m pretty sure there aren’t any “mostly black” fraternities or sororities. The proper term would be historically black but yeah there is a huge difference in the process tho
@@incognitojon902 there is a whole council of black frats and sororities
The NPHC also known as the D9 (divine 9) are a group of frats and sororities that are black
In my freshman dorm suite of 8 girls, 6 rushed sororities, the 7th later became student body president, and then there was me. I had to be removed from the suite for my own safety because they all bullied me so badly 😬 and when i was invited to join Phi Beta Kappa (which is like an academic honors society) i flat out refused because i had such a bad experience with the sorority girls 🤦♀️ but I'm fine now. Can't say the same for them
TRIGGER WARNING- SA
I was raped by a frat guy who said he'd walk me home from a party. I think this was my second week of freshman year. I was 17. I'm also autistic, and unfortunately after it happened the first time I did was take a shower. Once I was finally thinking straight enough the next morning to actually process what had happened to me I made the decision not to go to the cops. I blamed myself and didn't tell a soul what had happened to me for 5 years.
Another girl who was raped by a frat guy... Everyone turned on her, tried to ruin her life. She ended up just shutting up and leaving I guess because I never saw her around again. I saw what happened when you accuse a frat guy and that further reinforced my decision.
These guys would talk about running train on girls passed out up in their rooms. The girls they considered "hot enough" would get brought up to their private lounge rooms and sometimes bedrooms. They kept the drugs and the good liquor up here, and they always had some girly cocktail mixtures and stuff on hand. They would be very forceful that we drink and drink and, "That's right, good girl, keep drinking." Pretty much how you escaped was saying you had to go to bathroom and those were in the hallway so you had to leave the room. That was some crazy stuff...
That's utterly disgusting and horrifying. You should definitely contact the police. These kinds of things should not be allowed on campus and calling the police would save other young girls from becoming victims!
I am so sorry this happened to you...
Hope these men will be punished by law
Omg I'm so sad you had to go through that. I am autistic aswell and have been SA'd aswell and I resonated with your story a lot.
We're here for eachother ❤️🙏
small college vs big college greek life is so jarring. im apart of a sorority at a fairly small state school (only 4 sororities and 7 fraternities in total) and my experience with my sorority has been amazing and ive met some of the most wonderful people, but the frats honestly have the same issues as top school frats which just goes to show that frats of any size have the capability to get away scotch free while sororities are held to extremely high standards in comparison (from my perspective at a small school; not sure abt big schools)
I went to a school where there 4 total 2/2. You saying it was small with 11 in total is crazy to me!
I think size has so much to do with this for sororities. My chapter was relatively new so we had people from nationals watching us more often than sororities are typically watched so it was very hard for anything to happen and apart from one incident after I graduated we didn’t have hazing.
True I went to a small college and the fraternities/ sororities were basically clubs that had no houses. The thought they were better than everyone else and I hated everyone in college.
@@dolife4591agree 4 and 7 is not small by any means.
I actually had a really great experience! I was a Pi Phi at the University of Michigan and never experienced hazing and was never treated poorly (even though I'm well aware it happens elsewhere and I'm certainly not trying to discredit anyone else's experiences!). Most of the girls in my house I feel like were majoring in STEM or healthcare fields so studying and doing well in school was priority #1. I joined to get out of my shell and make new friends which I definitely did! I wish everyone could've had the experience I did 😪
I went to Monmouth College, the home of Pi Phi!
I’m from that area and I feel like UofM Greek life has a lot of awesome chapters bc people who go there are frankly very intelligent. My best friend was in a frat there and is a wonderful guy, but overall I am typically someone who wouldn’t associate with Greek like folks when I was in college.
I’m glad your experience was so awesome ❤😊
As an introvert on the autism spectrum with adhd, this sounds like absolute hell
I 2nd this
3rd this
ill never understand college culture, sorority/frat culture specifically. even the "positives" sound unbearable, anyone who chooses to willingly participate seriously confuse me
as a person with really bad social anxiety and a fear of abandonment i’m rushing to have a guaranteed group of people. i’m going to a large school and this forces me to social so i don’t get depressed. It’s obviously not for everyone but i see myself benefitting from it.
@@frenchfriedtomatoes3247point being, you probably won’t have a guaranteed group of people. If you don’t fit their norm 100% but still get in, they may pretend to be your friend because their sister code bs requires it, but they will break you down mentally, bully you, talk bad behind your back. From personal experience: you’re better off without Greek life even with anxiety. I wish I never did it. ESPECIALLY if you already have mental health issues that shit is dangerous and it’s gonna make your mental health worse, I can almost guarantee it.
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This was a great overview. I am a brown Apache Indian and have had mixed experiences - some very surprising. Others were horrible. In graduate school, I had a roommate who went onto become a fraternity president at Arizona State. He was a nice Italian guy from Boston. When he moved into his fraternity, I actually helped him move in - a brown Apache guy from the reservation. He wasn't racist at all. He even told me my Native American appearance somewhat resembles some Italians. At first, I thought he was joking but I learned some Italians are very tan due to intermixing with surrounding countries of the Middle East - different color shades resulted in Italy. In the corporate world, I had one coworker from a high-ranking fraternity at Nebraska who was very polite and supportive of my career. He gave me good reviews. Those two guys were not "racist frat guys" at all.
By contrast, I did run into racism with two fraternity guys in Tallahassee. I used to go to a local gym and there were two frat guys who always lifted weights together. Over time, one of them said to the other how ugly he thought I looked. Eventually, they tried to pick a fight with me. I contacted the Division of Student Affairs at Florida State. They wanted me to call the police on those two white frat guys who clearly wanted to get violent. But I just quit the gym and left.
After that experience, I started going to the main FSU campus gym seeking safety in numbers. I thought I would run into racist frat guys again. I even notified gym staff and asked them what to do about calling police. They said they would help me. But I never ran into two racist frat guys like that again in the main campus gym. This was notable because there were MANY frat guys at the main campus gym as well. I played basketball with them numerous times over years.
So, in my opinion, some fraternities can have "problems" which can include racism. But they are not all like that. I think it's important to look at the individual and local context. With that said, the negative clusters are clearly out there as you pointed out.
As for sororities, I know Alabama has had issues with racism. I read one article about a light-skinned Latina who made into a southern sorority in Mississippi. And she noted harsh racism behind the scenes and a clear preference for white segregation based on Eurocentric beauty standards. Such horror stories are common on the internet about southern sororities. So, at FSU, when I studied the MPH I was totally avoidant of a southern sorority girl in the class from Georgia. She often came in with her sorority letters on shirts and events they had sponsored. I didn't even want to acknowledge her presence because I thought she was virulently racist. I was cold and distant at first. But over time it became clear to me she wasn't racist. Ironically, she was actually the nicest person in the class to me. I got to know her in the courses and from the state job where she worked in the next building. I often saw her there. I learned it was wrong to assume all southern sorority girls are racist. She clearly was not. I was surprised but happy about it. With that said, the negative clusters you pointed out are there for sororities too. There were a few racist white women at FSU - not very frequent but annoying at times.
So, I think sororities and fraternities are not always bad. The population is large enough nationwide that many of them are nice normal students. But it's best not to pretend the negative clusters don't exist.
i went to an art school so we didnt have these there but whenever i went to my cousins school, i remember them having a really ínstense football community. her and her friends knew some of the freshman players in their year and id come and hang out with them and go to parties. ill never forget one night when one of the football players was drunk and messing around and started dancing up on me, and i pushed him away like back off dude lol and when i did that, my cousins roommate looked at me and was telling me to stop like i was the one in the wrong? when hes the one who came up and started grinding? its crazy just how intense people can be when it comes to their college teams, they get away with ALOT
That’s so gross. He’s entitled to your body because he can throw around a ball? Most college and high school players don’t go pro, so many girls act like groupie hoes for future enterprise rent a car salesmen
Thank you for making this video! I was a part of a sorority in college for 2 years, and you are pretty spot on with everything you said in this video. I joined because I wanted to make new friends and network, but I didn't know what I was truly getting myself into. I could literally write a whole damn book with all of my experiences lol. From what you said in the video, the whole "rush" period is weird AF. It's like who can impress each other more. The initiation process is also weird, creepy, culty and so WHACK. Like how is this even a thing?! Also the amount of drama, back stabbing and childish bullshit there was is unreal. Not to mention the hazing! During my time, there were a few frats and sororities that actually got kicked off campus for super dangerous and disgusting hazing. I, thankfully, was never hazed, but my other friends in other sororities were and the things they had to do just to "prove" that they were worthy of being in the sorority was wild and truly shocking.
Back when I was in college in the mid 2010s, I remember hearing that one of the sororities on campus took all the “ugly and fat girls” not wanted by the other sororities. It always seemed like most of the sororities wanted the skinny and blonde women and would deny anyone who didn’t fit the mould.
It’s called being a legacy, if your parents where members of the sorority or fraternity, you automatically get a bid, regardless of if u fits their superficial standards or not.
This is not true. Legacies in top tier sororities or frats do not get an automatic bid.
@@robync9729 You do. Or at the very least you should. It’s literally the meaning of legacy in that context. What sorority where u in, in what school?
@@SN-qd9qw legacies had it relatively easy in the past. My daughter is currently an active member in a “top tier” chapter. Being a leg will get you to round 2. But it is not an automatic bid. Go on any national chapter’s social page around recruitment time. You’ll find many angry alumna speaking in the comments about a legacy not getting invited to pref.
I agree with you. Legacies SHOULD receive a bid. It just doesn’t always happen.
Joining a sorority for me was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. The girls in my chapter during my active time are still my close friends. I knew every girl in my chapter. When someone is in need still today, we RALLY for them.
However, it isn’t the same now. The idea of building a sisterhood of friends is not the priority anymore. It’s just about pretty faces, letters on a shirt, status, and social events. Sad.
I never went to college, my daughters did, but thankfully, were not interested in Greek life. It always looked extra to me.
surprised you didn’t mention this- omega psi phi members get literally branded when they join.
This is so fascinating! Thank you! Both of my sisters were in sororities. My twin was in the very one formed and had a great experience. My little sister was straight bullied and harassed out of hers during her first year at school. And surprise! The school did nothing.
I've believed for YEARS that everything wrong with grown ass adults starts in Greek life. women being beat into submission and put into competition w one another, and men enjoying power over others and that whole hierarchy
I understand how being in a frat or sorority (or any group for that matter) can establish connections for jobs and whatnot, but my problem is that that can sometimes lead one to hiring the wrong person or people. That and it doesn't allow for a fresh perspective/growth.
The reason I can't join a sorority is because of my circle of trust lol. I unfortunately have a hard time trusting others and if I did have any alcoholic drinks, it would also be only around certain people or at home.
You are amazing for sharing your story Isabella. I'm 22 and I have been objectified and touched MY WHOLE LIFE. and when you mentioned that just touching or kissing someone without their consent is just as bad as being r worded, that made me almost cry tears of joy because nobody believes my experience is how I am now and why I don't like to show ANY form of physical affection. (I mean kissing, I'm asexual and very sex repulsed.) but I cannot wait for the full video!!
Thank you for sharing this! I want to add that differences can spread even between different schools/chapters. I was lucky enough to be apart of a very diverse sorority and anti hazing was one of our main focuses as a chapter. But I had met people who had dropped another one of our chapters at another school because they were forcing the girls to get tattoos to be initiated on top of horrible verbal and emotional abuse. I was so heartbroken that people who I would consider fellow sisters/siblings could treat people like that
What I found interesting when I went through rush, is that when you sign up to participate, some academic institutions or Greek systems have an almost NDA clause about rush embedded in the contract you sign. In my particular case, I was 17 as a freshman, so my NDA was never legal, as they just assumed I was 18. This was also never corrected later either. So when I watched the Bama documentary (I did not attend that university) it makes soo much sense why “big chunks” are “missing”….this put me in a very unique position, because I couldn’t hide behind an NDA if legally questioned, but I’m also not bound by one so I can legally say everything I personally witnessed…….yeah….yeah…wow…..it’s mind boggling how the system works to protect their own, and the lengths they go to………it gets to a point where trauma becomes almost normalized and in some cases, even celebrated “as a right of passage”. Yeah…uhh….yeah…Ummm..errr…there’s not an emoji for the face I’m currently making…..not all of it was bad, and not everyone does bad things. I wasn’t making an all encompassing statement.
You would think that as an Educational Institution if one of the associations on your campus requires students to sign an nda, maybe they shouldn’t be operating are allowed on school campus.
@@SN-qd9qw more of a confidentiality clause….but who takes the time to read an entire user agreement now a days? Most people have no idea what they agreed to in haste…..
I went to Ole Miss where Greek life was MAJOR. They were actually pretty welcoming and inclusive to people who didn't rush/join... As long as you were hot 🙄 while I had a pretty big group of friends while in college, pretty much all of them were not also attending the University
Sororities are so much like MLMs, I feel like some girls feel that they absolutely need to stick it out through hazing or bullying, for the opportunities because they have committed and don't want to be a drop out, like in MLM's, and at some universities if you don't rush, you WILL NOT get nearly as many carreer opportunities as those who rushed and stick it out
My brother was branded. I can’t even imagine.
My college didn't have a super big Greek life but did have a few, and one of the frats actually got like...disowned by their national organization (whatever the term is) because they were that bad. It was notorious among the students, my freshman RA told our floor not to go to their parties alone ESPECIALLY girls. It wasn't even a secret. They got banned a year or two later. I think they tried to keep running unofficially but the school was not having it. The others all seemed okay, I even knew a few people in sororities who loved it, but it just goes to show how insular communities like that can become infected so easily.
When you are sharing your experience of being harassed at bars and clubs, that happened to me a lot when I was in university as I would go out all the time… And honestly now it’s too exhausting to even think about having to navigate those people so I just never go out
A kid at Penn State, ( outside Pittsburgh Pa), passed away as a result of hazing... Its a very sad story.
It’s funny because I am now 65 years old and I still remember This. I pledged sororities in Bozeman Montana. When I was young, I remember the paternity I was trying to get into didn’t like me, because I wore too much mascara! A girl in the sorority told me this later I called my parents and cried and cried. I ended up getting into a sorority that was more diverse with wonderful girls.
I almost started defending Greek Life before the video started but then I thought about a few things:
1. Not everyone had the experience I had. Every college has different cultures and even if I went to a different chapter from my sorority it's likely my experience would be completely different.
2. Who responds negatively without watching the video? That's stupid.
3. You're not the first person to point these things out so there has to be some truth to it. I also went to a school where someone died due to hazing at his fraternity. I love my sorority sisters, but to defend Greek life while people are dying is pretty messed up to me.
I can't believe I wrote a novel before watching the video 😅
I was in a sorority and truly had a very positive experience. I am a very shy person and barely knew anybody going into college, so I joined to make friends. Sure, I have some criticisms about it, but I would not have met some of my best friends and I feel like my college experience would have been much more lonely if not for my chapter. Also, our panhellenic system really had it together when it came to hazing. We weren't even allowed to talk to the new members for a full 24 hours after bid day bc that could be classified as hazing. I obviously can't speak for how other chapters operate but I am very thankful I had a good experience
I was in a sorority for about 2 years at a school where Greek life wasn't all that popular. We were under the radar and until we weren't after a senior member was hazed by a group of girls. I was never hazed, for the record. The sorority was on probation for a year, which lead to being disbanded as we couldn't get enough ladies ro join.
Hazing should have never been part of the process.
love and watch all your videos but can not watch this at all due to my trauma from rushing at the univ of alabama last year this topic causes me so much anxiety
Your hair looks so cute!!! Thanks for another great video, girl! 🥰
omg thank you so much!!!
I've also been grabbed like this in bars. One time I started yelling at one guy and they just pointed at each other and laughed and said "it was him." ugh
I went ADPi by accident 😆 I knew nothing about rush, didn’t do it. But got invited to hang out and the next week they were singing at my door offering me a spot to try and join (I did end up joining cause I figured why not). It was alright (didn’t experience any hazing or anything), I did make some lifelong friendships but could of totally done the same without it.
IM SO EARLY OH MY GOD. YAY! love your videos. Such a sad topic
omg thank you angel! It absolutely is!! Definitely want to cover the good and bad of greek life
I've felt this way about frats for along time and I'm only 23 i know a lot of people who have been in them and no there not all bad but ive always just found them odd my dad was in a frat in omaha told some interesting stories. A lot of this stuff has been going on for decades, and just now getting talked about and looked at , I'm glad hope more realize how little they matter its all a show..
In Finland universities also have ”sororities & fraternities”
But there is no hazing etc, although some people do still drink quite a lot of alcohol.
Also the memberships are usually only 10€ and only the events cost as well as no part is mandatory unless you are in the board for example as a corporate relations person or freshmen captain.
Altough here they are mostly called guilds instead, such as guild of electrican engineering, etc and the members are often the students of that major.
im in canada and remember the rich popular girls in my high school (graduated 2017) going to attend school in the US for the sole reason of joining a sorority
Frats/sororities are inherently good for students in my opinion. However, I think the honor societies that arent necessarily greek organizations are a better choice. There are people that abuse others in any organization. When a person has authority or influence over others, abuse is likely at some point, especially in a group setting. Frats/sororities are not cults. When drugs and or alcohol are involved with people, your obviously going to get crime. Many student organizations are doing a great job in what they do. I wouldn't lump all frats/sororities into one group as each is different. Im Christian ✝️ and so I follow Christ. Helping others is the name of the game. Take care.
idk about pwi (predominantly white institutions) but at hbcu (historically black college universities) people who choose not to join greek life are called gdi (god dam individual) and i am so proud to be one
Great exposure to this Isabella! Also, KiKi, one of your peers in this community, did an amazing job on a Bama video. I think it's great that there is exposure to all of this. Can't wait to see your video in August! :)
The way that greek life at HBCUs is vastly different than Greek life at PWIs is absolutely crazy I’m looking at this video like 👀
I go to Bowling Green State University and am apart of greek life there. After Stone they have improved a lot for hazing. Something so tragic that happened to Stone but he has made greek life at my school safer and hazing has a zero tolerance now. My sorority has never hazed it is different for fraternities ofc. But don’t let this scare you! It depends on what school you go to! But there are definitely schools that still practice these horrbile hazing behaviors.
An old friend told me that they had to sit on a washing machine to see what "jiggled" and it had to jiggle less each time they checked or they risked being kicked out of the sorority. Glad I had never took part of greek life.
Hey! I know this video is pretty old but I love watching stuff like this because since I'm an active member in a sorority, I feel like I can debunk some things and clarify. Obviously, there are things I'm not allowed to speak on, but it is nothing like what you think when I say that. I hate misinformation so the stuff I'm sharing I'm being serious about and genuine.
terminology: Chapter (a specific sorority/fraternity at a specific university (e.g. Sigma Delta Tau, Gamma Lambda Chapter (SDT at FSU) is different from Sigma Delta Tau, Upsilon Chapter (SDT at IU, Bloomington), Ritual (personal information that each chapter has which it is not allowed to share with 3rd parties not in those frats or sororities (they can still share with other chapters in their own sorority (so SDT Gamma Lambda can share with SDT Upsilon chapter))) POC (people of color). PNM (potential new member)
For the hazing and rape/sexual assault I totally agree, there are way too many greek chapters in the US that haze in very unsafe ways when they shouldn't be doing it at all. I am lucky enough to not be in a chapter that hazes and they're all like my best friends, but I am in no way saying that it doesn't happen. It's a terrible issue, and I wish that panhellenic would do more than showing awareness slides to PNMs to stop it.
For the social media posting limitations, the only limitations that most chapters have are to protect ritual information (aka personal things different chapters have to initiate new members, elect board members, voting etc.) and the image of the chapter. For example, my sorority sisters are not allowed to post pictures of themselves for initiation, but lots of other sororities allow it to celebrate! It's less culty in my opinion as it is just what has been done over time because of how personal it is. If we were to expose those things, it would not feel as personal and sweet because we're just sharing it with everyone. Greek life secrets can definitely vary from dangerous to terrifying, but in my experience, the secrets are for bonding purposes and not to keep outside parties from seeing any cult-like activities. Secondly on this issue, to me it makes sense to have restrictions on what members can post because they are representing their chapters and obviously their chapters don't want to show off underage drinking or anything illegal since they're a professional organization. Nothing I personally am restricted from posting hinders my life in any way and it doesn't feel controlling since it's information I wouldn't have if I wasn't in the chapter and it's just respectful to my sisters and alumn.
On the topic of sororities only having girls that look the same, I definitely think there is a diversity problem at almost every school that permeates not only greek life, but just the school population in general. There have obviously been racist circumstances where some greek organizations don't even let in poc, which is terrible, and this is something else panhellenic needs to recognize as suspension worthy on a higher level. There are black sororities and fraternities, however, I would like to see a greek norm one day where poc are in every chapter consistently. I can't say that there aren't some chapters that judge girls on their looks, but I also genuinely believe it's more about fitting in with the girls at those chapters than looking the same as them. When I went through recruitment, there was a disproportionate amount of women with platinum hair and tanned skin. Nothing wrong with that I love a good sunkissed look, but I'm saying this to show that since the pool of women rushing are disproportionately white and blonde, the amount of women in the sororities are also going to be mostly white and blonde. It's encouraged for PNMs to be themselves and wear what's comfortable during recruitment and as far as I'm aware this is true for all panhellenic associations, but it has become the norm over time to dress your best and show off the best side of yourself, which definitely causes many girls to get stressed over looks. I wish that every PNM could understand that if a chapter doesn't invite you back because of your looks, you wouldn't want to be a part of that anyways. I know lots of chapters at other schools do it and I could not be more disappointed because it's very shallow and definitely not a good representation of what sisterhood should be about.
With that being said I really do love my sorority and greek life culture because it hasn't been toxic to me and I've found some of my closest friends in my chapter. Sisterhood events (things like painting pottery together, watching a movie together, etc.) are so fun too it's honestly just the biggest excuse to spend time with people you automatically get along with as long as you put yourself in the right chapter. If any PNMs are reading this, I have 3 little pieces of advice.
1. Go greek, but not at the caust of your life, safety, or mental health.
2. Greek rank is very petty and rarely accurate to how you will experience those chapters. See if you like it and if they're a-holes, leave. Everyone has different experiences.
3. Be yourself in rush/recruitment and you will have the best time. Being anyone else would undermine your stellar personality!!!
If anyone has any questions def comment and I will answer! Like I said, I love talking about this and debunking misinformation so be my guest!
I went to college avoided sorority like the plague!!
This is great information, my daughter is going to college in the next few years and this was good for her to hear.
Ur hair looks so pretty up Bella!
Hi Isabella! So I was in a sorority in college. I went to a school with about 2k people so my sorority chapter had at most 30 people at one time. I would say my experience is not typical to a larger school and being in a group of 100 or so folks. But, even at a small school shit went down. I don't think there is enough oversight on Greek organizations and ultimately that leads to people losing their lives. In terms of hazing it is a real issue and I am glad you took the time to research and produce this video. Also, I'm so sorry you've had to deal with so much sexual harassment from people in public. As a fem person I have too and it's a gross and dehumanizing feeling to be touched that way.
Frats and sororities seem so strange to me.
It wasn't until my Senior year, that I finaly met some new friends from a Fraternity & Sister Sorority, who happened to be far different, from the a-holes, that I dealt with for the 1st 3 years. Otherwise, I would have wanted to Ban the whole entire system. But, this video definitely Triggered me, because of the early experiences, when I almost got talked into joining a Frat, by tons of "Peer Pressure" my Freshman Year.
When we paid dues in my sorority, we had no say in where those dues went towards, a certain amount went to nationals (about 1/4th of dues) but everything else was decided on by the exec board, so all other 70 members had zero input
look into highpoint uni- the school is full of the richest kids and has so many problems with greek life and nepotism. my bf’s sister went there and saw a guy buy handicapped spots for his ferraris. it’s awful there
the presidents son killed a student from a frat and faced zero consequences
Ahhhh I love your videos!! Happy Friday!!!
when i saw this thumbnail i was like "CMON GLASSES AND UPDO" like you're giving... thank you for your dedication to serving!
Ok but what does it actually have to do with "Greek Culture?"
Greek culture creates adults who go forth into the workforce with the expectation to get ahead not by merit but by who they know as well as office/employee hazing labeled team building. They learn humiliation games that they think is okay, normal.
Thank you for talking about this!
I will say as a Greek girl I’m kinda sick of the stereotypes and also I have a ton of other friends both in and out of Greek life.
There need to be stricter regulations in my opinion. Groups can function without the nonsense that Greek Life can perpetuate. Sure, you may not like someone or what they did, but to do what some will do? Nah, that's not okay and Greek Life is past due for an overhaul.
After a friend's daughter was subjected to being put in psychiatric hold for 72 hours by one of the "sisters", I definitely developed a jaundiced eye toward sororities. The young woman submitted didn't have a current or past record acting out or dangerous behavior; they just were pissed at her and wanted her gone. And because she was an "adult", it wasn't really questioned save by the family.
I’m about to go to college and this was very informative. Thank you
I had been waiting for this one
I went to college in the early '90s and hazing was a serious problem then, too. However, my university (DePaul Univ., Chicago) didn't allow frat/sorority houses. The campus was in an upscale neighborhood where even then houses regularly sold for millions of dollars. The school didn't want to make enemies of the neighbors. Instead, our frats and sororities had lunch tables with bulletin boards on the wall behind them. I didn't know anyone who belonged to one or had even applied(?, I don't know what it's called).
First time watching your content. Just so you know, gossiping is ALWAYS bad. There is NEVER a time when gossiping should be considered "sharing information." Gossip is MISinformation that's harmful to other people's reputation and usually is untrue in part or wholly.
Nobody likes a gossip. If they're talking about other people to you, they're talking about you to other people. Not a friend.
Ive been in the army for 4 years we dont lie about the stuff that happens to new guys or fngs the stories coming out of fraternities and or sororities is sometimes horrible my first barracks party/ initiation was to chug a redbull with a 50 50 mix of Hennessy and vodka and then down 10 shots sucked but was fun in the moment
Nothing to share except your hair is a total SLAY in this video
the bama rush doc we all wanted
When I was in college I had three roommates who were all in different sororities. They were wild lol. But fun roomies. I was never in one but we r all still friends today. College was in early 90s. 😊
We also weren't allowed to talk about anything outside of meetings, that we discussed in meetings... like it was so so culty and my school did not have a huge greek life
Girl what a look on you today, the tshirt with cute hair and glasses 10/10 🌼👌
I’m from the US, went to an American university that had Greek life, and I still don’t get it.
this one should be interesting. never ever joined an mlm but love the inner workings
More videos about Greek life!!! I've always been fascinated because I'm from the UK.
I did Greek life in university. I was in a service sorority and an academic one.
A lot of the ones in the news are social. (If it has a house, there's a 99.99% chance it's social.) Social Greek life has always interested me, but in how they function. I'm curious to see what you have to say about them. I'll probably have another response after the video.
Some of those sorority videos you were showing look like ads for the next big MLM conference
As a university graduate who is British, Greek life confuses me, we still have a problem with hazing with our sports clubs and societies
Oh shoot! Thanks for this video!! It's a subject that is important and not talked about often.
i was in a sorority.. i’m so sorry for all these bad experiences, but i wanted to shed light on the good side! my experience was amazing and not every sorority or fraternity indulges in “hazing” or “bullying”. sure, you won’t get along with every girl but at the end of the day those are your sisters and they’re there for u when you need them most. depending on the sorority if you don’t attend an event you don’t get fined, all depends on the amount of sisters u have. and lastly, it’s not just about paying for friends, you’re apart of an organization that raises money for their philanthropy and bring in the legacy going for your specific organization!
I’m a delta zeta alum, and I can’t wait to see your video on Bama rush! The doc was awful!
Im a Delta Zeta alum, too! 🩷💚 I haven’t watched the video yet, but my experience was amazing, & if I had the choice to do it over, I would
there was a rumor at our school that alpha phi hazed their newbies by making them sit on washing machines and circling all the areas of fat that jiggled with a sharpie. another guy i remember hearing about was “kidnapped” and dropped off in the middle of nowhere in the dark without a phone so his objective was to find his way back
I love those glasses on you! Idk why but you look like a teacher that is strict but fair and who is really proud of her students.
Not me at first thinking Greek as a person who is from Greece 🤭 (am Northern European ok we don't have greek culture here :D)